Vovadi Technology fka VTEK

[the cork]

Good for you starboy, your basis point is probably lower than mine LoL!

Nevada copper is the very last producer (or darn close to it) to leave the gate from the looks of it.

They've always been kinda sluggish as I recall, but once they get going they'll be alright.

I don't think we'll have any trouble seeing .25-30 farily quickly, and probably way more than that.

With the current rate of currency debasement, - and even with the slowdown in business and industry, copper prices should continue to rise in US Dollar terms.

Having the precious metals component in there should keep it interesting too.

I fully expect these guys to do a reverse split at some point, which is OK with me I guess. I'd rather they didn't, but it's all good in relative terms.

I don't hold out much hope for a vaccine in the short term but when all is said and done, I wouldn't be shocked to find out that the hydroxychloroquine "cocktail" proves to be the ultimate best protection at the front end of the disease.

How many thousands of people needlessly died because it was more important to politicize the issue than to save the people ?

Makes me sick just thinking about it.

[starboy]

Hi Bob,
Bought a smidge of NEVDF, just to join your party.

Let's see what the company restart accomplishes over some time, and if gold and silver pick up when the next stimulus arrives, and also seeing how the Main street economy downdraft affects the overall markets.

Rich man's money and maybe a little Robinhood keeps propelling the tech stocks-but eventually there's a limit.

I'm not sure if these 'hopes' of a vaccine will bring about an overall market resurgence, even if we get one. Because it will take awhile for it to prove itself and in the meantime more economic damage is ahead.

There's been and will be a lot of damage, as in small businesses driven out of business and mid-range company bankruptcies - with more to come, for sure.

The elections in November are also a wild card.

[the cork]

AUG sounds pretty good. I like the spin-off potential for sure.

If you want to share some DD I'd say go for it. Just because I like the micros, doesn't mean you can't post some of the more traditionally priced stocks.

I know JohnCM likes the higher entry point miners and etf's, so that's right up his alley.

I'm really happy with little GGGOF. Got in at .046 and it closed today at .2798 so you can imagine how happy LoL!

Take a look at NEVDF if you have time. They just entered commercial production when the virus hit and had to shut down. The share price spiked and then tanked, as you might expect.

They resume production next week sometime around the 14th, and the share price is still back at the 52 week low, so this one may be the last one out of the gate for the current run.

I see an easy double or even triple from current prices once they start production and get a couple press releases out there. I'm loading up, but still trying to grind 'em down. With any luck I'll get some more under .10 OMG !

Thanks for the AUG heads up, I'll check 'em out !

Bob

[the cork]

Sorry to say you're probably right. People are pretty generous, and so are a lot of corporations, but this can't go on forever.

I've got a small garden started, with an eye towards the ever bearing and what stores well.

I don't believe in lethal force, but I've got nothing against high powered co2. To that end I'm well stocked in shot and cartridg, plus a little 3-5 round burst automatic fire number guaranteed to discourage an intruder.

It sickens me to see the political class trying to insert pet pork and agendas into recovery measures.

How could the sons and daughters of the greatest generation have screwed it up so completely ?

This is the kind of shit that leads to world wars.

Nobody is gonna forget china's role in this, and their continuing role in undermining this country from within it's various institutions.

Personally, I don't think we should do business with the bastards at all.

We'll see how this goes,, but i don't think it's gonna be good.

Be well !

[starboy]

When the poorest and less connected people start running out of food and food banks too, that's when the shit will hit the fan. Likely the second week in May.

[the cork]

Right starboy, that's exactly what I think it is.

Margin calls, plus, they have to destroy the values of precious metals in order to prop up the value of paper.

I'd bet my ass the banks are shorting precious metals, in order to make up losses other places.

I'm gonna strategically add to both physical and selected stocks.

I'll probably drop NHVCF (although I hate to), and SZSFM and bulk up on my two best holdings.

I can't believe I'm still green in GORO and GGGOF, but that's what I'm gonna do. Limit my exposure to just two miners, and bulk up on those shares.

If they can withstand the onslaught of the last couple weeks, they can withstand anything. Hopefully LoL!

[starboy]

cork, I cannot believe they are dragging down the metals yet again. It's the worst friggin deja vu I could imagine.

Do you think it's mostly due to need for margin call money?

I mean, it's a total drag. Thought sure this time around they'd want to play it safe with PM's.

Even Bitcoin's getting beaten up...

[the cork]

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=152767014

[starboy]

cork, That whole Corporate Presentation of AUG is worth a scan. Very well executed.

https://www.aurynresources.com/investors/corporate-presentation/

[the cork]

That's the stuff !

[123tom]

Bob,I'm hoping for you and I wish you all the best .

I read some headline recently about this one called Keytruda? supposed to work really well,said the advert. I don't know anything about it though.

[starboy]

Interesting news. May positive energy be with you, as you are thought well of on this end.

[the cork]

Awesome starboy I'll read it over the weekend. May have good news in the treatment department. New drug approved last week, and I got the initial treatment for bladder cancer. It's been used for other cancers but apparently it works in my case too. The side effects are like night and day better. Sure hope this works !

[starboy]

Fairly long article, but interesting study if you have time. Echo's much of your thinking in what's been the scenario over the last decade. Thought you might enjoy some of the commentary and conclusions.

Wasn't sure that it might be too long an article for the board. You can always post it if you think some of the guys would enjoy it.

One Massive, Global, Serial Bubble

Source: Michael J. Ballanger for The Gold Report (6/13/17)

https://www.streetwisereports.com/pub/na/17504?utm_source=delivra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Resources%20Final%206-15-17&utm_id=33544634&dlv-ga-memberid=884007331

[starboy]

Will check out the Saturday Night Shoot page on FB, for sure. It'll be fun, knowing you're firing away!

Here's the book FB page. Only just getting started with it. The girls at bearlymarketing.com will be using some of my own quotes and my pic to help 'brand' me and the book. Little by little, step by step.

https://www.facebook.com/themusicalrainbowstory/

Here's my own FB page, as well. You'll see most all of those quotes, singly, that I put up as a post one time a couple of weeks back, for inspirational passing on of good thoughts.

https://www.facebook.com/donald.abrams.9

I'm looking forward to this wide open Kentucky Derby on Saturday.
It's a great day to take a shot, as the betting pools are gigantis.

[the cork]

That is SO cool starboy ! Will definitely check out the fb page. Sorry for the delayed reply, just getting back to near "normal" after the last treatment.

Bounce me back with a link to your fb page, I keep getting some music school in England.

BTW, you are welcome to check out the Saturday Night Shoot fb Page too! https://www.facebook.com/groups/392877210910410/

[starboy]

Wish I could understand this as well as you probably will.
But I'm thinking it is in the end resulting of reporting, simply saying paper is what they use to control gold, like so many of us consider to be true.

https://srsroccoreport.com/who-really-controls-the-gold-price-the-answer-is-quite-surprising/

Started the Facebook campaign for the children's book.
If you or anyone you know who cares about kids involvement with their first musical experience and a fun, colorful, and inspiring story; simply 'follow' The Musical Rainbow Story page on Facebook. Every little bit helps to create momentum.

Wishing you well, Bob.

[the cork]

Thank you ! Congratulations on your book too. That's so exciting.

Love the covers! That in itself will go a long way towards driving sales in an on line environment. Very happy for you, and good job getting over all the "humps" in the road that become obstacles for other people with less drive!

[starboy]

Congrats on the Saturday night win. Way to go, bro!
And good for you for stickin' by your mom.

For the record, I've sold 140 copies of the children's book out of my food truck in roughly a month of working days out selling.

This kind of reception means I'm going to take a shot at social media marketing, with a firm of hard working young girls who excel at it. They offer reasonable prices, no contract, and a very fair price for analytics to see who's coming to my site, and how they got there.

http://bearlymarketing.com/pricing/

http://www.themusicalrainbowstory.com/

[the cork]

Thank you starboy, that means a lot to me.

With regards to deficit spending, that trail has been well entrenched by preceding administrations. I have little hope for this one, to be much different.

The one thing that's good about it is it's making people look at their news sources like never before.

The complicity of the MSM and their role in screwing bernie out of the democratic nomination will hopefully be revealed. They can rail against the Russians (OMG LoL!) all day long, but in the final analysis, the DNC and the media tried to "ramrod" their candidate down the people's throats and it backfired.

If Bernie had been the democratic candidate as he should have been, people wouldn't be bitching about Trump now LoL! That's the way I see it.

No darts tonight darn it, still in the "hold and roll" stage LoL!

[starboy]

Just a note, Bob, to wish you well and let you know I think of you often, wishing the best result for your efforts to heal.

This was an interesting article, and the four additional resources links at the bottom of the article were something I thought you might want to note of for future reference.

As in the first one: The U.S. Treasury provides daily tallies of the total U.S. publicly held as well as intragovernmental debt.

Article link:
http://www.cfr.org/united-states/trump-national-debt/p38857

It's possible that Trump will lead the USA government into troubling financial waters, what with the way he spends 'other people's money' faster than his own, then pulls the plug with bankruptcies. Habits are extremely hard to change.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/21/carly-fiorina/trumps-four-bankruptcies/

[the cork]

Yes. I think the sins of the last 4 administrations are coming home to roost. They're gonna try and dump it on Trump and try to make him the scapegoat.

We've got all Tverberg's reasons as outlined in the article, as well as what looks like a power struggle going on in Washington.

CIA needs a good house cleaning starting with that Clapper guy. He's the same fucker that lied to congress about the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

We've been over there all this time because of that guy.

There are a lot of reasons 2017 could be the year the wheels come off. I'm surprised the PTB have been able to keep it going this long.

[starboy]

Took a while to get through this, but I did find it intriguing to assess.

2017: The Year When the World Economy Starts Coming Apart
Posted on January 10, 2017 by Gail Tverberg

https://ourfiniteworld.com/2017/01/10/2017-the-year-when-the-world-economy-starts-coming-apart/

[the cork]

No worries ! I just didn't want you to get burned !

[the cork]

I'd be careful of the silver operation you referred to on the M+M board. There's a couple of indicators that just don't sound right.

The linked article is a "paid advertorial" as disclosed above the picture of the silver bar.

Speaking of silver bars, I don't see any actual production, despite numerous hints and references to historic production. In other words, no immediate revenue!

They may well be a great find, but until they build or buy a mill, there's no revenue except from the sale of shares (OMG !).

I saw another "paid advertorial" for another great silver opportunity 3 or 4 years ago. CMC Metals. I bit, and bot, and lost my ass. The fuckers aren't producing yet and they already had had a phucking 100 TPD mill to start with !!!

I think they ultimately will be a great company, but I was way too early.

The pitch sounded so similar I had to tell you ! GL !!!

[the cork]

Yes, I saw that, and appreciated it as a following article to the Andy Hoffman piece I posted.

Eik posted a good piece more or less related about seizing immigrants gold and valuables - same excuse, to combat "terrorism."

As you know from my profile picture, I'm a huge Perry Mason fan. They periodically refer to $500 and $1000 bills during the show. When's the last time any of us saw a 1,000 dollar bill?

As it is, you already have to fill out paperwork at the bank to withdraw more than 5,000 at a time.

It may make a certain amount of sense to convert 100's to 20's in case they try to pull the same stunt here, which In time I think they will.

In the mean time I just keep stackin' !

In the "chemo lounge" all day today. Gonna be sick over the whole weekend dammit, but at least the results of the last CT scan were encouraging. Stable, no growth of the tumor. We couldn't kill it outright, but have been able to stop the growth which is the next best thing.

Hope you and your loved ones have a wonderful Christmas Holiday starboy. Be well!

[starboy]

cork, surprised this got zero attention on the board. What say ye?

THE WAR ON CASH AND THEN ON GOLD... (repost from DiscoverGold)
By Clive Maund

* December 18, 2016

The global financial system continues to groan under the strain of the accumulated weight of trillions of dollars worth of debt and derivatives, which have built up to even more fantastic levels than those that precipitated the near collapse in 2008, thanks to the policy of solving liquidity problems near-term by creating even more debt and derivatives, Quantitative Easing being the most obvious example. However, while the majority consider the situation to be hopeless, there is actually “light at the end of the tunnel”.
If only a way could be found to freely tap the funds of savers at will, by imposing duties or taxes on bank accounts, with the additional option to appropriate savers’ funds on occasion as required, then the systemic liquidity problems will be solved. Banks need never fear solvency problems again and they can simply fall back on the account holder’s funds to meet any obligations. There are in fact already names for these restorative operations, they are called “bails-ins” and NIRP (Negative Interest Rate Policy).

Unfortunately, any immediate attempt to implement bail-ins and NIRP on a large scale will backfire because, faced with being charged significant sums for the privilege of keeping their money in the bank, savers will simply withdraw their funds and keep them as cash at home, or maybe even invest in Precious Metals. It is therefore imperative that these escape routes are blocked off.

We have already seen an interesting “trial balloon” in recent years with respect to bails-ins. This was the celebrated Cyprus bail-in. When Cyprus banks were about to go belly up a couple of years ago, they saved themselves by raiding customers’ accounts, which is more palatably described as a bail-in. The reaction of global savers to this action by the Cyprus banks was one of horror and revulsion and they made it plain that they weren’t going to stand idly by and watch banks plunder their funds – they would withdraw them as cash if any such threat should appear over the horizon. This reaction set the great minds of the banking community to work on how to stop savers withdrawing their funds in the face of these threats. The solution was and is simple – abolish cash! Thus we have seen production of the 500 Euro note in the European Union stopped so that it gradually fades into oblivion and in the US Larry Summers has proposed abolition of the $100 bill, which accounts for most of the money in circulation. The idea is to implement the policy for a global cashless society in stages – if it is done all at once the public will revolt. They need to be trained to go cashless and this will take time. By starting with high denomination notes you actually remove most of the currency in circulation at a stroke, but the masses can still buy cigarettes and candy bars at street corner shops with small denomination notes. The excuse given for the removal of the notes is that it impedes organized crime and money laundering etc, which is of course a convenient smokescreen.

With plans for a cashless society already well advanced it was time for another trial balloon. India was selected. Anxious to demonstrate his credentials as a card carrying member of the New World Order, and oblivious to the effects of the operation on the hapless citizenry of his country, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi went ahead with the withdrawal of two key banknotes. This caused chaos across the country, especially in rural areas where many don’t even have bank accounts, and citizens often had to travel long distances to get to banks to change these banknotes, only to find that the banks had in many cases run out of smaller denomination notes. Despite the economic dislocation and suffering experienced by the masses including some deaths, the experiment was deemed a success by the elites, as they had gotten away with it, with the cowed and impotent citizenry accepting it as their fate – what they should have done is rioted until the measures were withdrawn. Globally, the plan therefore is to keep chipping away at it until the cashless society is universally accepted, the only cash likely to remain being small denomination notes and coins suitable for paying street vendors and bus fares etc.

The arrival of the cashless society will not only mean that banks will be able to avail themselves of citizens funds as and when they please, it will also mean that the banks, and by extension the government, will know all your financial business, what you do and when. Tax evasion will be impossible, and eventually you will not be able to do business with companies that are not approved of by the government.

With the escape route into cash set to be blocked off, that leaves Precious Metals, gold and silver, gold as a store of value and silver more for everyday transactions. Gold bugs and others, especially survivalists, and many wealthy investors see this as THE way to escape the rapacious grasp of the banks and the government, and are busy squirreling away fortunes into overseas vaults etc. However, it is unfortunate that if you can think of this, so can they, so can the banks and the government, and they have plans for you and your gold hoard. Remember, their power is absolute, no-one dare stand up to them and they can and will do what they like, changing the law as required to suit their purposes. They are much more powerful than President Roosevelt, who in the 1930’s, in an act of naked piracy, seized the gold of US citizens, and furthermore their modern powers of surveillance and tracking are much more sophisticated than anything back then. Thus we can expect governments to declare the holding of gold (and silver) to be illegal, and to demand forfeiture to the government in exchange for nominal compensation. Vendors of gold bars will be closed down and mints will not sell retail gold. Unlike the 1930’s this be a be a coordinated global campaign, a kind of witch hunt if you will, and there will be no corner of the world that is safe, just as they finished off private banking in Switzerland. Those buying gold and stashing it in various pseudo anonymous remote foreign depositories will be in for a nasty shock as these vaults are arbitrarily raided and plundered, with local and international law being changed as required to facilitate this. Nothing will stand in the way of a system that will not permit alternatives.

We will end on a positive note. No-one really wants to see a complete systemic collapse, which is what will happen if banks don’t avail themselves of savers funds quite soon, least of all the controlling elites at the top of the pyramid who live lives of scarcely imaginable opulence and luxury and wish to continue doing so. Such a collapse would lead to bank accounts being frozen, and a breakdown of the distribution system leading to anarchy and hand-to-hand fighting in the streets for essentials like food and gasoline. Should we not therefore be grateful to our illustrious masters who have ingeniously thought of a way out of the current impasse, by availing themselves of your funds as required? Is it not a small price to pay to go cashless and forego your privacy and independence, and forfeit your gold and silver on demand?

It is tempting to blame others for all this, especially those in control of the system, but don’t forget that for decades you voted for people who routinely lied before elections, and told you what you wanted to hear, that you could have it all right now and to hell with the future – well, that future has now arrived.

https://www.clivemaund.com/free.php?id=4026

[the cork]

123tom, I had to delete the "Listen Dipshit" post. It's a little strong. Is there any way you can tone it down some. I don't think $UPERMAN meant anything, he's just caught up in the post election exuberance. We're all buds on the M+M board !

[the cork]

[the cork]

Thanks starboy! It's been an adventure, that's for sure. All the doctors and most of the family feel I should have had the surgery. I didn't like the prospects of life in that scenario, and still don't. If it kills me it kills me. I've become fatalistic about it. I don't fear death, at least not now. I'm following conventional medicine's dictates but also including alternative remedies as well. Looking into frankincense right now, and it has shown promising results with my kind of cancer.

Glad you liked the piano selections I studied. Actually, those were just the tip of the iceberg, because I kept more than one example of period pieces by representative composers concert ready at any one time. That's what made it rough. If it takes 4 hours just to play the compositions, that's just one play through. That's not practice. Practice means repetition. Practice takes longer. There came a point at which it was unsustainable, at least for me. You take good care too!

[starboy]

Well I don't claim to perceive the full import of Conferred Diligence's post on the English bank bond situation, I do see that it's yet another brick in the wall we've been discussing for years now.

Like he said, PM's on the move tonight, whereas last night, after a lackluster day over here, there was selling. Usually the norm overnight is the nibbling at the price, that I've mentioned many times, though no one seems to reply to that observation.

Most of all, I continue to wish you well from afar, and applaud your resolute and affirmative approach to being as well as possible with remedies that make the most sense. Wish you the very best.

I was really knocked out to hear of the classical piano studies you pursued.

Take care, cork.

[the cork]

So true. His spirituality was shown through his work!

[starboy]

You sure paid some serious dues at the keyboard. Had no idea!
Methinks you should still delve into it occasionally, just for the love of it.

[starboy]

Chopin's brilliance could compare to any star or galaxy. He was so inventive and poetic. Fantastically fluid technique. Some of those 'runs' if you will, were so serpentine and ear catching. And of course the harmonies he came up with, and the masterful use of the left hand. Breathtaking, really...

Have read many books on him, and the best recollection that I thought was so cool was that when with his students teaching, he NEVER played a piece the same way twice! He was just so dang adept and skillful with his hands and fingers, so that when combined with his compositional nature, it's just fascinating piano.

It was the same for me when I watched Jesse Winchester play piano in the little cellar studio in Montreal, where we jammed, just the two of us. Me on a truncated drum set and he at an old upright he had back then. Though he never played his own songs, always stuff he remembered and enjoyed. However he played those songs with such flair it was a blast to see and hear.

[the cork]

I was originally trained as a concert pianist. Matter of fact I played that 1st nocturne! One of my favorites!

It took a minimum of 2 hours a day (after college, 4 hours while still in school) to put in a practice session that was by any measure inadequate, but when balancing the demands of work was the best I could do.

I played the mandatory program of Bach Prelude and Fugue (b flat minor) Beethoven Sonata (Opus 31,#2) Chopin Etudes (opus 10) but wimped out on the 20th century and settled for a Brahms intermezzo. Never could get my head around tonality built on a 4th (as opposed to the customary thirds).

I finally gave up trying to connect the baroque, classical, romantic and 20th century periods, and became a Chopin specialist.

Those were the days!

[starboy]

Didn't know you were that involved in keyboards. What styles of music do you play and enjoy?

I've got a Falcone upright that was gifted to me about six years ago. Great to have an acoustic axe.

I know what you mean, but really, just to play a simple melody or really rock out, has got to involve some satisfaction, cork.

I play intermittently. Depends on how tired out I am from still working.

But watching a Johnnie Johnson or Jerry Lee Lewis video, or in classical Maurizio Pollini or Maria Joao Pirez gets me over to the keys just to have a little enjoyment as best I can.

[the cork]

Cool pics!

The early models weren't touch sensitive, and had a volume pedal. For guys used to an acoustical piano, this proved problematic. That's prob how the Wurlitzer keys got broken LoL!

I've got a Korg 88 key and a Yamaha 88 key, plus my acoustic.

The piano is a harsh mistress, at least for me. I can't be satisfied with being average, and I'm no longer willing to put in the time it takes to be excellent. Quite the dilemma.

[starboy]

It may have not been this particular model, but the first electric piano I owned was a Wurlitzer.
I remember that Johnnie Johnson (Chuck Berry piano player) also used one for a while, but the keys broke too often on him.

This video has several songs as examples.
Wurlitzer Electric Piano 200 by VintageVibe.com

Funky look at the 'Rhodes' we remember.
Fender Rhodes Piano Groovin'

Roland EM-10
This is what I've had for years. But I never sound like this!

[the cork]

Thank you Tom! Fear not, I'm never too far from the M+M Board. I haven't posted as much recently, but that's mainly because I hate to keep repeating the same dire warnings. They are more real than ever, but I try to distill the "Bo Polny" hyperbolic repeating rhetoric down to a few of the more saner commentators.

Eik was getting a little weird the other day, so I (oh so) subtly posted the Hard Hat Zone picture as a reply to one of his more bizarre posts in hopes of steering him back on topic without having to be a prick about it LoL!

This will most probably be a rough week for precious metals until after expiry. Then look out! Be well!
.

[123tom]

The Zapper is interesting Bob....

Back when I was stricken with Lyme, 20 years ago...when it really hit me in full force, it immediately cramped my intestines and I couldnt eat anything or even drink water.I got tested and tested positive, and after the doctor explained that I might end up on a lifetime of antibiotics,just to hope I can manage it.... I knew I needed to try and find some alternatives to the abx. not that I'm not willing to do a few courses ,if it helps, but I wanted to see if theres any other ways. and I really needed to be open to trying anything that worked, because my entire health was wiped out .I didnt have the strength to lift a frying pan to cook a meal. One of the first things I did was to begin learning about the zapper and then trying this one to see if it could help. what I noticed immediately was a sense of relief, the inflammation started going away, and I noticed also a herx reaction, which happens when you kill off alot of bacteria quickly and the body strains to flush it all out of the system, you can feel a bit worse for a day,until it flushes out. so they recommend using the zapper briefly at first , just a half hour on the first few days, then working up to longer periods, or several, a few more half hour sessions thru the day and night. One of the best tell tale signs that this zapper is doing something,alongside the Herx, is that after using it for about 5 days in a row, I will start to get indigestion, bloating, maybe a little constipation, nothing bad, but the onset of indigestion, and what that means is.... the zapper is killing my gut flora bacteria, its killing all bacteria in the body, and evidence is that its killing my probiotic gut bacteria as well... it never fails. I'll have good digestion , when I'm not zapping. then when I start up the zapper again, after 4 or 5 days, I start to notice the indigestion coming on. I always saw that as a welcome sign that this zapper might really be working to kill bacteria. the other thing I notice is that after 2 days, the Lyme symptoms go away. inflammation subsides, and I feel normal again. The lyme bacteria does Not like the electric pulses. it must morph into hiding ,like it does when it senses the presence of antibiotics, the symptoms go away, and stay away as long as youre on the abx, and curiously....many times, in an abx treatment, after the treatment stops, patients continue to feel better, until the abx is out of the system....the intelligent lyme bacteria (might have been engineered by the government labs as a bioweapon,) whereas most bacteria are simple organisms with 2 or 3 or 4 strands of dna....the lyme bacteria shows 53 strands of dna !!!? that did not come from natural evolution if you know what I mean. In any case, it has an intelligence, that senses the danger of abx and the electric zapper, and it goes into hiding, it changes shape, and forms a hard calcium shell to protect itself. thats why its so hard to get rid of once you have it in the system long term. anyway, sorry for the tutorial, my point is about the zapper. I have always felt like the zapper helps alot. If I approach my treatment with several tools ,the zapper is one of the most important . abx is ok. nano-partical colloidal silver is a good medicine , and some other things .The other sign that the zapper works is that I use it when I start to get a cold or flu, my family uses it too like that, and instead of getting a bad cold develop, ....once I use the zapper, the cold goes away the next day. and the flu never develops. so I have good reason to believe the zapper does work in some kind of way, maybe just the way they describe, it electrocutes and shatters the bacteria,or whatever it does.

Bob, I think the idea about using the zapper for treating cancer, is that the idea of cancer having many components to its cause and development. that it develops from a combination of many toxins, pathogens, bacteria, viruses, petro chemicals, pesticides, one simple particle of glyphosate (Monsanto roundup ) readily found in water and food now, one particle that goes to the breat tissue can cause cancer. all tumors seem to have this toxin in it, as well as fungus, all components of cancer development. sugar feeds the cancer. a weakened immune system fails to attack it good enough. its a systemic illness profile, you know alot about it by now I presume.
So when I think of a treatment plan...ok, if you go thru chemo as a treatment,thats one part of a plan. my wife did chemo and radiation,it got rid of her breast cancer,and any cells left over, etc,and she's ok for the last 13 years.
But for me to think about treating the whole toxic buildup...I think I want to do alot of detoxifying. get rid of the pesticides, the petro chemicals, the sugar, get rid of bacteria, fungus, viruses, get rid of parasites, and get rid of mercury fillings , detoxify with infrared sauna, get rid of toxins in the fat cells. flush out toxins from the kidneys and liver and colon. boost the immune system with all the vitamins and herbs that do this. boost the detoxification system with different supplements that help the kidneys and liver . so many things. work my way up to high dose vitamin C. all part of a complex treatment plan. alot of probiotic supplements are essential when using the zapper. so its a comprehensive plan to put together. Now they discover that cannabis the thc and cbd cannabinoids, kill cancer cells. I add it to the plan.
anything that works or shows promising info. when the science world somehow despite itself,manages to discover some aspects of what constitutes cancer and its development....they recognise that cancer develops in relation to fungus. it has connections to a polluted terrain, so pesticides and petrochemicals toxins come into the area that is damaged. One small particle of glyphosate is all it takes.
a toxic cocktail of pollution and bacteria/virus/ fungus sets in the body and creates a damaged terrain. stresses the immune system, hides from the immune system, shuts off the immune system or otherwise neutralizes the immune system....Thats what the toxin called Nagalase does. its an ingredient in vaccines. thats what contributes to autism as well. its found in high levels in cancer patients as well. so the idea of detoxifying the body from all these damaging things,needs to be dismantled piece by piece. Using chemo is like dropping a nuclear bomb on the cancer. Its ok if it works. The complex treatment plan I'm describing is like a construction company dismantling a rotten house piece piece by piece...or a gardener weeding a garden, taking out all the crab grass piece by piece.
Many things are necessary for the healing process, including simple things like good sleep, and a good diet, boosting the body with vitamins,and boosting the immune system. and a big program of detoxifying.

anyway, sorry for the long monologue. but I wanted to describe how the Zapper fits in with a complex and comprehensive treatment plan. like this.
I like the idea of using the zapper every day....but you would likely discover as I do, that after about 5 or 6 days using it, you start to get some digestion discomfort...and thats when I might stop the zapper for a few days, while I take alot of probiotics, and maybe on the 3rd day I would start the zapper again. and get a sense of what rhythm feels right, pulsing , 5 days on , 3 days off, etc.... and just keep using it like that. same with the infrared sauna....things have to be done with a balanced approach....when you do alot of sweating treatments, you lose essential minerals, so you have to take mineral supplements as part of the daily plan. and I might use the sauna, every other day, for about a week, and maybe stop for 4 days, then start using the sauna again. and get a feel for the right pattern. same with taking silver. maybe even chemo programs follow a certain pattern too, time off, before the next round...

anyway, Bob, I highly recommend getting that zapper...AND....getting that infrared sauna.
If you want to talk about a vitamin program, feel free to discuss it with me anytime. The word 'vitamin' is an oversimplified, old word, that doesnt mean much to most people. they think of "vitamins" as being like a one a day vitamin pill, or centrum, those stupid worthless nothing vitamins they sell at walgreens. No, thats not what I mean by vitamins. I mean a complete program of many supplements, from A to Z...and it would be as much as 70 different supplements. maybe taking 50 pills a day. very sophisticated and comprehensive. and all working together to nourish the body and when taken in the right does , and combination , it becomes good medicine. eating one orange is not medicine vitamin C. but taking 5 grams of Vitamin C powder ,5 times a day thru the day, becomes good medicine brushing your teeth with baking soda is not medicine...but dumping 2 boxes of baking soda into a warm bath becomes a medicine bath. Dr.Sircus discusses that kind of treatment.

Anyway...be well Bob, and keep your eye on the stock market and dont forget to keep an eye on your mining forum too....there's some snit picking that goes on some time,that needs your supervision....smiles
Tom

[the cork]

Cool! 59 bucks isn't bad. The gal I used to date that used the light wands encountered unbelievable hostility from the government too. The FDA was all over her. She countered that hostility by muting any curative claims and not charging for the treatments. She was years ahead of the stuff that's out there now. I don't think the light wands did much, but the zapper looks interesting.

[123tom]

this is the zapper I use....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Z4eX-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-/351488328074
I use it with just the copper pipes. the wrist straps dont work well.

This is where the technology and story comes from. the developments in electricity ,sound, and light in how it affects cells,when applied in certain ways. This great man was killing cancer cells in 1930 with his technology.thats why it was shut down by the government...at a time when chemo and radiation was being developed,hospitals were being built and alot of Big cancer industry money was beginning.
http://www.royal-rife.com/
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I was going to post this on the mining forum ,its interesting analysis of the earth,and whether its round or flat. but I decided there isnt anyone on your forum to appreciate it other than yourself.

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[the cork]

Interesting stuff especially the Zapper. Was not familiar with that, but will check it out. I used to date a gal who was into a version of light therapy. She had variable frequency light wands that could be set to pulse at different frequencies.

There are so many treatments out there with varying claims it's hard to sift through them all. Glad for the heads up! Thanks!

[the cork]

Thanks starboy I appreciate that, but I'll go ahead and get my own copy.

What a cool person to know! The reviews are compelling, and I'm sure they are only the tip of the iceberg!
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[123tom]

thats good news.

That article on heavy metal detox,I found especially interesting about How a good test should be done, testing all three and the relationship ratio, hair/blood/and urine...you saw that? interesting way to evaluate the data. not simply testing blood levels.
My lyme disease,I guess can screw up some things about how my body processes toxins. Ive been ok these 20 years, been managing it ok. but always have this burden lurking near by...that starts up every few weeks. I can be good for maybe 2 or 3 weeks then I feel it coming on again. I beat it back down, and I'm ok again for a few weeks. and gradually I get worn down with arthritis, inflammation,in the knees and elbows, stiff neck, and intestinal inflammation,things like that,flue like feeling,achiness...I beat it back down with my treatments, and feel better for a week or two. I might feel good during the day and then achy and wiped out by end of night.that is how it works in me.for 2 or 3 days I'll have a swollen elbow incapacitate my elbow. then that goes away and becomes stiff back for a few days, then that goes away and becomes burning feet, etc... it migrates around my body. like playing cops and robbers, my treatments chase the thing around my body where it tries to hide .hides in the synovial fluid in my joints, thats why it goes to elbows and knees. anyway....its really alot of fun.
but the wearing down process is what might be happening now, after 20 years of this game.... I dont know what kind of stress load my system is dealing with all the time. toxins that I kill with the zapper, and silver, and need to be flushed out the body with infrared sauna, and things like cilantro and detoxification...I approach it with some kind of comprehensive process. what bacteria and toxins that get killed in my body they all need to be flushed out of the system,thru the liver,kidneys,bowels, lymph drainage system, ...needs boosting ,purifying, so I use a program of supplements and these assorted treatments I do. It really is a full time occupation doing all the healing work. but I'm always open and willing to do anything that works.
I was looking into that Carnivora (venus fly trap) a few years ago, I havent tried it yet. I do like Paw-Paw ,and have used it for some periods a few years ago.
Theres a few tricks to the treatment process,Bob, like when using Immune boosters,like the mushrooms...they need to be used only for about 5 days in a row, then stop. then another 5 days a week or two later. not as a daily vitamin, but in a cyclic rythem , 5 days on, then stop.

One thing my body did seem to like was High dose Vitamin C...gradually working up to 100 grams a day. which takes a few weeks to achieve. in the beginning, taking 1/4 tspn dose, is 2 grams, as one dose, to start with is about the bowel tolerance limit, then a few hours later, another 2 gram dose, by the end of day ,after a few days, I worked up to about 10 grams a day, thats just starting to become "High dose". it doesnt really become high dose level until at least 20 grams a day. and gradually that 1/4 tspn a dose becomes 1/2 tspn, then after every 2 or 3 hours another dose,the bowel tolerance level is ok, and I work up to 5 grams a dose,and every 2 or 3 hours ,this is powder vitamin c, in water.... by the end of day I managed to consume about 50 grams a day....it takes some time to get up to 100 grams a day. but when I had that going, about 40-50 grams a day, it felt like good medicine. I plan to do that again .anyway, I guess dealing with lyme disease, I found/find it takes a certain amount of effort to do all these things...but what choice do I have otherwise. so I have to deal with it.
Also the idea of detoxification supplements, its not just to aid the detox....but also to boost the daily functioning as well....so I keep taking the basic regimen of supplements.
When you get done with the chemo and can start up a daily routine ...one of the easy things you could do is to use a Zapper,for half an hour every day , I use it for a week, then stop for several days, then start up again. You might find it useful to research the Zapper technology, various devices some simple, and inexpensive, like the one I use, cost 60 dollars and it works pretty good. !!?Its always worked well, to get rid of or at least make the lyme go into hiding. its that cops and robbers chase game .the lyme bugs dont like the zapper electricity.
But when you research about these Zappers,you see very fancy ones for thousands and simple ones like the one I have...and they do work to kill bacteria and viruses. whenever I start to get a cold or flu...I use the zapper, my wife and kids do too, and the cold goes away the next day.you'd see that its a good healing tool to use. If I was really stricken badly with a big escalation of Lyme from here, I would probably look into getting one of the more sophisticated expensive models,that dial into the specific frequencies of the pathogens...but so far, Ive managed it ok this way. Obviously Lyme is a different illness than cancer, but many aspects of the healing process, are similar, the need to get rid of harmful toxins,kill harmful cells,etc,flush them out of the system, boost immune system, etc.

[starboy]

cork,
FWIW, one of my customer's wrote this book, and his wife gave me a copy. Could mail it to you if you wish.

There are a number of reviews below the description on amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Outliving-Cancer-Robert-Nagourney/dp/1591203066

[the cork]

Good stuff tom! I don't have any evidence of heavy metal exposure, at least that I'm aware of. Fairly regular blood tests haven't revealed anything like that (TG) and the blood tests are coming back very good for kidney and liver organ function. Good source of reference material though. Thanks!

[123tom]

Cork,... I stumbled on this tonite while buying vitamins...good info on detoxifying heavy metals.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/06/19/heavy-metal-detoxification.aspx



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[the cork]

Great stuff Tom and THANKS! I'll definitely check into it!

[123tom]

Bob, I stumbled on this again....

I remember researching this a few years ago. Looks very interesting. more google research can show the best place to order it, maybe get a little discount.
http://www.carnivora.com/