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VICI would appear on the daily list, an EX-DATE would be set for distribution of the dividend. One would need to own VICI by close of business the day before EX-DATE. One could sell VICI on EX-DATE and still get the dividend.
I agree that people would be buying into this for the merger alone. IMO it is not clear that it will be a reverse merger, I had the impression the company was going to issue shares of the new company and you would still have your original VICI shares. That is better than a reverse merger.
Additionally, one has the benefit of an S8 ending which would also cause the price to increase. The end of the S8 is just an added benefit in terms of PPS when combined with buying pressure due to the merger IMO.
What happening to Victor Industries' Shareholders to Benefit from Post Merger Dividend?
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/060131/93197.html
What happening to the merger negotiations with broadband solution provider Zhejiang Fibersense?
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/051206/90785.html
What happening to the merge with FSP in china?
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/051011/87634.html
and thank you for your input. Youve been a big help so far
Who would really care about the dividends? If I saw a $100 million + company merging with this I think Id rather be with that.
bill im somewhat new to all of this but im a member of scottrade..how would i pick up my dividends? And also when they do the reverse merger with Ethos wouldn't it just go up due to that? Supposedly they are pulling in $100 million alone just off china. I would imagine that ppl would be buying into this just for the reverse merger
I would anticipate to see the price rise as the S8 completes (IMO 70% complete now), further news comes along, and the merger becomes official. There will be interest in getting in on this due to the merger. There will be interest in getting in on this due to the end of the S8. There will be interest in getting in on this due to a dividend in a new company (spin off - EIG).
I would anticipate seeing the price rise up until the ex-date when people can sell and still get the dividend and then see the price fall sharply and then bounce back.
So you might sell late on ex-date - 1 as people force the price up at the last minute to get the dividend and take a nice $$$ gain but no dividend. Or, you might sell first thing on ex-date or else catch the bounce and sell later in the day and still get the dividend.
The degree to which this plummets on ex-date will be a function of how hard it gaps upwards prior to ex-date. The greater the increase the greater the fall IMO.
I am assumming this Ethos company will be spun off as EIG. I like their product and will know even more once I put it in my cars Sunday.
Bought a gallon jug for $75 after taxes today.
The product can be added to OIL as well as GAS.
The distributor I bought it off of uses it in his car and mainly sells to fleets.
I like this company so currently plan on getting the dividend and then trying to sell first thing on ex-date unless a huge drop occurs. If that is the case I may wait until a bounce comes and then sell at a later date.
Here is another thought, perhaps VICI will have even yet another merger after the Ethos deal?
If that is the case those that held their VICI will be rewarded yet again.
ez told me about this one and he usually picks the winners and from the looks of it after reviewing each company this does look like a winner. Any speculation on the price after the merger?
Yes. How soon hard to exactly say. From their PR they used the phrase "and expects a merger to be completed in the near future". From my calculations the S8 that was out for 100M shares has likely had about 70M eaten up. This too is a very positive thing that should not be underestimated. Shares are on sale today due to the S8. Once they are gone the price will rise rapidly. What could cause them to "be done"? Buying from more progress with the merger. Just like the LOI appeared out of the blue conclusion of the LOI could hit equally as quick. Then the remaining S8 shares go poof, and the price moves upward due to increased demand and lack of S8 shares to fulfill buys.
bill what do you think about the merger? do you think it will happen soon?
thats why i love you
I talked with at least one ETHOS distributor who said one sees an increase of about 8 to 10% in gas mileage. He uses it in his own car which is nearly new. Older cars get a greater improvement. He mainly deals with Fleets and hence had plenty of Gallon containers but not alot of pints.
If Gas goes back above $3 a gallon how popular will this product become with any marketing what so ever?
If I recall correctly the first 2 times you use it one needs to add 3 Oz for every 10 gallons. Then after that 1 Oz for every 10 gallons.
$12.99 for a pint and $69.99 for a Gallon
I am hoping to pick up a Gallon later today
Joe
This is March...looks like they're ready now, and VICI's
LOI confirms what ETHOS wanted to do all along..go public.
Things take time. They may have had many offers, but
found VICI to be a good "fit."
The chart is showing that there is a growing interest
in VICI since the news. There were some S-8 shares
still existing probably from a last year filing, but
I think those shares are nearing exhaustion now.
ETLC is trading in the .06 range and has gone near .15
several times awaiting their $100M dollar merger.
ETHOS $100M evaluation is just for two countries they're
in outside the U.S.A. Looks like their expanding their
base and looking into U.S.A. operations on a broader scale.
Think this has multi-bagga potential.
:)
ez - that magazine article was in april 05 and also they said theyd go public this march but they didnt..anythin on that?
VICI looks ready to take off IMHO to really take off. Company looks solid. Chart looks strong.
I'll answer that question.....
What are people waiting for? Looks like one helluva
play that could go huge.
VICI merger with Ethos. This year 100 million in sales to China and Equador alone.
http://www.sandiegomag.com/issues/april05/business0405.asp
Clean Air Act
A small San Diego company is playing a big role in reducing air pollution in Beijing as China clears the air for the 2008 Olympics
By Larry M. Edwards
IN THREE YEARS, when athletes from around the world descend on Beijing for the 2008 Olympics, they can thank a San Diego company for the cleaner air filling their lungs. The same holds true for Shanghai, host of soccer’s World Cup in 2010.
The cleaner air will be due in large part to a fuel additive produced by Ethos Environmental Inc., near the Mexico border in San Diego.
Dubbed Ethos Fuel Reformulator, or EthosFR, the additive is an ester-based product that significantly reduces vehicle exhaust emissions by lubricating and cleaning engines that burn gasoline, diesel fuel or gasohol (a blend of gasoline and ethanol similar to that now required in Southern California).
“With the Olympics coming to Beijing, we want to show the world we are doing something to help the environment,” says Yi Li Wang, who, as chairman of human resources, is the highest-ranking woman in the Chinese government. She is also executive chairman of Globalization Economic Cooperation & Promotion Network Ltd., a company half-owned by the Chinese government.
“We are spending a lot of money on the Olympics,” says Wang, who was in San Diego in February to meet with Ethos executives. “We are confident that EthosFR will improve air quality for the event.”
But before they tackle Beijing’s infamous air pollution, the highly polluted Yangtze River region will benefit first. Emission standards have been adopted for the small container ships that ply the Yangtze and other rivers in China. Previously, the ships were unregulated and belched plumes of hydrocarbon-laden smoke, polluting the surrounding air. Although the use of EthosFR has not been mandated, so far it’s the only additive the government has approved for use, and a production facility in China is in the works.
About a dozen products were tested, but only Ethos passed muster. “Ethos is a natural, nontoxic product,” Wang says, “and has no afterburn” —meaning it does not create any additional emissions, as do petrochemical-based additives and ethanol. What’s more, it’s been found to reduce fuel consumption enough to pay for itself.
“The air-quality regulations in China were comparable to the 1950s in the United States, so we are a solution for them,” says Ethos president Enrique De Vilmorin. “If you take 15 percent off the emission rolls in any city, you’re going to make a difference.”
He expects to reduce emissions by much more, however. The product is formulated to reduce exhaust emissions 30 to 40 percent, and at least one company in San Diego has achieved emission reductions of nearly 80 percent in some of its equipment.
The ester-based EthosFR cleans and lubricates an engine’s internal parts without using petroleum-derived solvents. It acts like soap, removing carbon deposits and reducing friction.
This improves engine performance, reducing fuel consumption as well as harmful emissions. One ounce treats 10 gallons of fuel.
“It’s ashless,” De Vilmorin says, explaining that 99.99 percent of the patented product is consumed during engine combustion. In fact, emission tests show a significant increase in oxygen levels from engines with EthosFR in the fuel, further improving air quality.
Of the company’s name, De Vilmorin explains, “We’re an ethical company that has ethical customers, and we sell ethical products.
In addition to China, EthosFR is used in Thailand. In South America, Ecuador will begin adding it to fuel supplies in June to reduce air pollution in Quito. Peru and Chile are expected to follow suit later in the year, and a pilot program is under way in Mexico City.
ETHOS ENVIRONMENTAL is not only cleaning the air, it’s cleaning up. The company, which was slated to go public in March, reported $9 million in sales in 2004. This year, the company expects revenue of $100 million from China and Ecuador alone.
Sales in the company’s home country will only be a fraction of total revenue, however. A number of commercial truck fleet operators use the fuel additive, the U.S. Marine Corps adds the product to the fuel burned in its hovercraft, and the U.S. State Department ordered EthosFR for its Humvees in Iraq earlier this year.
But cracking the U.S. market has been difficult. De Vilmorin approached the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency more than a decade ago, hoping to convince federal officials that a product like his would do more to reduce air pollution than adding oxygenates to gasoline, a requirement in some regions since 1990. But he got the cold shoulder.
De Vilmorin says then–EPA chief Carol Browning told him, “You’re never going to get the U.S. government to mandate a product from one single company. It must be market-driven.”
Never mind that it’s environmentally safe, unlike the oxygenate MTBE (methyl tertiary butyl ether), which has since been banned, and ethanol, which reduces hydrocarbons but has been shown to increase the level of ozone, a primary component of smog.
The California Air Resources Board (CARB) contends that gasoline oxygenates are unnecessary with today’s emission-control technology. The state has been requesting an oxygenate waiver since 1999 —including an effort last year by U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein—but the EPA says it needs to conduct more tests, says CARB spokesman Jerry Martin.
Martin says the Air Resources Board would prefer not to have any fuel additives, but it must consider all alternatives available to reduce air pollution, most of which now comes from diesel-powered vehicles. Meanwhile, the Midwest ethanol lobby, funded by Archer Daniels Midland Company and a handful of other large ethanol producers, continues to push Congress to mandate increased use of ethanol, the production of which is subsidized by the federal government and some states.
Ethanol, which typically costs about 50 cents a gallon more than gasoline at the wholesale level, adds about 4 cents to the cost of a gallon of gasoline to California drivers, and that’s after deducting the roughly nickel-per-gallon federal excise tax credit to oil companies that add ethanol to their gasoline, a de facto requirement since January 1.
DE VILMORIN SAYS he doesn’t expect to be granted a monopoly by the EPA. He’s willing to compete in the marketplace, although to his knowledge he has the only such ester-based product. But he’s convinced that this type of product will go further toward meeting federal and state air-quality standards—which will tighten again in 2010—than do current policies.
Ethos has a growing cadre of U.S. supporters. Among them is Jerry Schnitzius, general manager of Pacific Waste Services, the San Diego division of Houston-based Allied Waste Industries, the second-largest trash collection company in the nation. Locally, the company operates a fleet of trucks as well as the heavy equipment at the region’s landfills. It’s been using EthosFR for four years. Other Allied operations around the country also use the product. It pays for itself not only in lower fuel costs but reduced maintenance by extending engine life and increasing the likelihood of a vehicle passing state-mandated smog tests, Schnitzius says.
“It’s like gold,” he adds. “By combining it with biodiesel, it reduced emissions from our trucks by 64 to 66 percent, and after we added it to the crankcase oil, it improved another 12 percent.” The company’s cars have shown a 10 percent improvement in gas mileage. “It saves us money. It’s also the right thing to do,” Schnitzius says, noting that neither he nor the company has any financial interest in Ethos Environmental.
With more operating capital available through foreign sales, De Vilmorin plans to ramp up domestic marketing by partnering with national retailers, such as auto parts stores and supermarket chains. Consumers will save money at the pump, and it will help their vehicles pass smog tests, he says.
The irony does not escape De Vilmorin: “We had to go to China to open up the U.S. market.
http://www.ethosfr.com.
© 2005 San Diego Magazine
What do people think of merger news today?
VICI Victor Industries Answers Call for Help From Famous California Landmark
PrimeZone Media Network - February 23, 2006 7:31 AM (EDT)
By Staff
LOS ANGELES, Feb 23, 2006 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- The Self Realization Lakeside Shrine in Pacific Palisades, California, which attracts tens of thousands of visitors each year to its koi filled lake and serine seaside gardens has asked Victor Industries (OTCBB:VICI) for help. The garden, with its central lake, was established in the late nineteen-thirties and is noted for the countless fifty year old koi which inhabit the lake; countless not because they are innumerable but because the lake has become so polluted the koi, once a main attraction of the gardens, can no longer be seen.
The primary mineral constituent of our organic product line can be ground to a sand like consistency and used as an excellent water filtration medium, less expensive and more effective than diatomaceous earth. Further, because of its cation exchange properties, our filter medium H2Only will naturally absorb the fish waste (ammonia compounds) clouding the lake. Limiting ammoniates will help control the growth of algae and contribute to the further clearing of the lake water.
Most remarkably, when the H2Only has become saturated with waste products it can be extracted from the lake and used as an excellent water retentive organic fertilizer in the surrounding gardens. Progress reports will appear on our website www.VictorIndustries.com.
This news release may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Act of 1934, as amended; such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to vary materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. The Company may experience significant fluctuations in operating results due to a number of economic, competitive and other factors. These factors could cause operations to vary significantly from prior periods, and those projected in forward-looking statements. Information with respect to these factors which could materially affect the Company and its operations are included on certain forms the Company files with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
This news release was distributed by PrimeZone, www.primezone.com
SOURCE: Victor Industries, Inc.
Victor Industries Inc.
(800) 949-1230
www.VictorIndustries.com
(C) 2006 PRIMEZONE, All rights reserved.
New website: http://www.victorindustries.com/index.html
Maybe good news soon.
VICI. 100 million S8 today.
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename%3D0001328759%252D05...
All the best
Banks. Not sure. I sold because the impact date of this is not till the first of the year.
All the best
Mgland -
How does this merger fit in with VICI business model??
Any thoughs on synergy here between the two? Seem so different at first glance.
Thnaks.
According to PR impact date first of year if the merger is succesful.
All the best
interesting .012/.013
Victor Industries Inc. is to Merge With FSP China
LOS ANGELES, Oct 11, 2005 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- Victor Industries(OTCBB: VICI) has entered into merger negotiations with broadband solutionprovider Zhejiang Fibersense Communications Technology Co. Ltd. (FSP China).Executives have found significant mutual benefits to explore the potentialmerger of the two companies. To that end, negotiations expected to come tofruition early in the New Year have begun.
"FSP's potential share of the wireless/broadband market is staggering. They haveaccess to a market arguably larger than all U.S. broadband solution providerscombined. FSP's management is seasoned and ambitious, and have a clear vision oftoday and tomorrow's communication landscape. We are proud to play any part wecan in their future," said Lana Pope, CEO Victor Industries Inc.
To learn more about Victor Industries click on www.VictorIndustries.com, or callour toll free number at: (800) 949-1230
ABOUT Zhejiang Fibersense Communications Technology Co. Ltd.
Zhejiang Fibersense Communications Technology Co. Ltd. (FSP), www.fsp.com.cn, isan optical network, VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) and wireless broadband(802.16 WiMax) voice-and-data fixed-and-wireless telecommunication solutionprovider and virtual operator with branches in Mainland China (PRC) and HongKong. FSP has set up sales and engineering office centers in Hangzhou, Beijing,Chungdu, Shenzhen and Hong Kong. The Company is committed to providingcost-effective integrated VoIP and WiMax system solutions conforming to Chineseand international standards.
FSP's primary target consumers will be the government, telecommunicationproviders, public utilities, the oil and mining industries, and provincialforest services.
This news release may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning ofSection 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of theSecurities Act of 1934, as amended; such statements are subject to risks anduncertainties that could cause actual results to vary materially from thoseprojected in the forward-looking statements. The Company may experiencesignificant fluctuations in operating results due to a number of economic,competitive and other factors. These factors could cause operations to varysignificantly from prior periods, and those projected in forward-lookingstatements. Information with respect to these factors which could materiallyaffect the Company and its operations are included on certain forms the Companyfiles with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
This news release was distributed by PrimeZone, www.primezone.com
SOURCE: Victor Industries, Inc.
By Staff
CONTACT: Victor Industries Inc. (800) 949-1230 www.VictorIndustries.com
(C) 2005 PRIMEZONE, All rights reserved.
INDUSTRY KEYWORD: Chemicals
SUBJECT CODE: MERGER
ASIA
Holy macrol!! A green stock in my portfolio!! Did hell freeze over?? LMAO
I see. That was a scary place it went to yesterday but back on track we go. :)
Bus turned north. :^)
All the best
I hear ya mgland. I wasn't around much today. My trades haven't been all that good lately so I figured I'd get some stuff done. Anyhow, on the bright side (kinda hard to see now) there really wasn't a lot of volume that brought this down compared to the recent days. I guess that means more were in it other than just for a potential Katrina play.
I really do feel that the company is at a long awaited turning point so I'll wait it out for a while. Maybe when some more PRs showing more orders come out, we'll be righ back up to where we were.
Back under my rock I go. lol
Question now is where is bottom? Bus appeared headed to Beverly hills but here we are in El Segundo.
All the best
I would hope that most of the buying recently came from the growing orders they've been announcing and not all on the speculation of a Katrina play.
Ok, I'll quit talking to myself. lol
Like I said, it would have been icing on the cake but they're finally starting to sell thier products as stated in the past PRs and no dilution in quite some time now.
It was a possibility given their products and location. If we get a nice dip because of it, I will add some shares.
We'll see what happens tomorrow.
Stock Patrol shouldn't have been bashing the company. I'd be a bit ticked off if I were the CEO.
Regarding Victor Industries Inc. Environmental Clean-Up Products and Hurricane Katrina Relief
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2005 5:33 PM
- PrimeZone
MISSOULA, Mont., Sept. 19, 2005, Sep 19, 2005 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- The following statement is being issued by Victor Industries Inc. (VICI) CEO, Lana Pope:
"It has come to our attention that there are rumors circulating that Victor Industries, Inc., by virtue of its environmental remediation products, has acquired a contract to clean-up recent damage done by hurricane Katrina. This is categorically not so.
"The Company is not at this time in a position to aid in the relief and recovery efforts. It is our hope that in the future our environmental remediation products might prove beneficial in natural as well as man-made disasters.
"In the meantime our hopes and prayers go out to all those adversely affected by hurricane Katrina."
To learn more about Victor Industries click on www.VictorIndustries.com, or call our toll free number at: (800) 949-1230
This news release may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Act of 1934, as amended; such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to vary materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. The Company may experience significant fluctuations in operating results due to a number of economic, competitive and other factors. These factors could cause operations to vary significantly from prior periods, and those projected in forward-looking statements. Information with respect to these factors which could materially affect the Company and its operations are included on certain forms the Company files with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
This news release was distributed by PrimeZone, www.primezone.com
SOURCE: Victor Industries, Inc.
Victor Industries
www.VictorIndustries.com
(800) 949-1230
I C that they UTed it on a 5k buy from .013 x .014 to .014 x .015. Typical MM BS.
O/S as of today (no change) 229,216,913 Keepin the company in check.
I really don't think that news is far away judging by the trading lately and they are due for some. JMO
Thu, Aug 25, 2005
• Victor Industries Inc. Inks Five-Year Price Stabilization Agreement for Primary Component
PrimeZone Media Network (Thu, Aug 25)
Wed, Aug 24, 2005
• Victor Industries Inc. Receives Largest Order to Date
PrimeZone Media Network (Thu, Aug 18)
Wed, Aug 10, 2005
• Victor Industries Inc. Files Financials with NASD; Confident 'E' Will Be Removed Rapidly
PrimeZone Media Network (Wed, Aug 10)
Tue, Aug 9, 2005
• Victor Industries Inc. Announces Establishment of Its Newest Distribution Hub Thirty-Eight Miles From Major Market Center
PrimeZone Media Network (Wed, Jul 13)
Wed, May 25, 2005
• Victor Industries Inc. Announces Confirmation of Multi Ton Order From Greenhut Construction
PrimeZone Media Network (Wed, May 25)
Tue, Apr 19, 2005
• Renowned Horticulturist Formalizes Relationship With Victor Industries
PrimeZone Media Network (Tue, Apr 19)
Tue, Apr 12, 2005
• Victor Industries Inc. Establishes Distribution Hub in Prime Market
PrimeZone Media Network (Tue, Apr 12)
Tue, Apr 5, 2005
• Victor Industries Inc. Report Confirms Urgent Need for Victor Products
PrimeZone Media Network (Tue, Apr 5)
Wed, Mar 23, 2005
• Victor Industries Inc: 'Significant Sales in Multiple Venues'
PrimeZone Media Network (Wed, Mar 23)
Mon, Mar 14, 2005
• Victor Industries' Reno Sales Director Starts With Multi-Ton Order
PrimeZone Media Network (Mon, Mar 14)
Wed, Mar 2, 2005
• Victor Industries Issues Update On Diagnostic Cat Litter
PrimeZone Media Network (Wed, Mar 2)
Tue, Feb 1, 2005
• Victor Industries: Robert Strecker M.D., PhD Appointed to Board
PrimeZone Media Network (Tue, Feb 1)
Thu, Jan 27, 2005
• Victor Industries' Pet Project Results in Joint Venture
PrimeZone Media Network (Thu, Jan 27)
Tue, Jan 25, 2005
• Victor Industries' New Website Documents Growth and Success
PrimeZone Media Network (Tue, Jan 25)
NITE has been supporting it. ;)
I wish the chart supported that.. could turn around quick with a bounce today or tomorrow.. still.. will be a pretty strong play IMO over the next couple of weeks..
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=VICI,uu[m,a]daclyyay[pc10!c20][vc60][iUp10,3,3!Uq3,10]&a...
LOL! I hear ya. Could use some work.
yeah I found it.. that website hurts me eyes..
http://www.victorindustries.com/GSA.html
Victor Industries Inc. has been accepted by the General Services Administration (GSA) as a potential supplier of goods to the federal government. The entire Envirolizer line of products as well as the products listed below may be found on schedule 73 on the GSA Advantage website. Sales to the federal government through this site once let are bound by a 5 year contractual obligation
In the IBOX
All the ingredients are there for a Katrina play imo but even if not they're finally starting to sell there product so I think it could be a good buy down here.
Like I've been saying, someone knows something and is accumulating. No doubt about it.
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