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watch SPY and trade off that..
Projections for TVIX high of the day, oh Master?
well I hope someone listened cause it spiked big from pre-market
have a great day TVIX'ers
I'm not gonna touch TVIX but I think it spikes today.
Great post and I very much agree with you, thanks.
They came out yesterday
Futures are shaky Real Shaky
The TVIX Will GO So hold on
My Brother is stationed in Greece he says it is a Total mess.
StockSplit I made 11,700 on Wensday Yesterday I bought TVIX premarket and sold at the top made 1,000 Bought 12,000 shares HDY at 1.02 sold at 1.45 so i had made 4000-5000 then I Saw TVIX come down to 19.09 bought it went up 19.40 then it was all over rode it down to 17.43 10,000 shares my avg is 18.39 i will ride it out with you.
When do those reports come out?
Here is how i screwed up again today. Yesterday i sold my position at 19. Later it continued higher of course. I new i was going out of town today and bought apple yesterday on the drop at $510 but it continued lower. So today in the morning before i left apple was down even more. As low as 386. It moved up to 392 range. I kept eyeing tvix and of course was annoyed seeing it over 20 . I wish i never sold it yesterday. So watching the s&p in the morning it was up and so was tvix. I said to myself if tvix pulls back near mid 19's maybe i should dump my apple and buy back tvix. I kept thinking this 6 point gain in s&p isnt going to hold. So i dumped apple bought half of my account at 19.87. Then i put in another buy order at 19.55 thinking just i case. But then what happen i got killed. My account got killed today. What the hell did i do? I i kept my apple and never touched tvix. Especially i was trying to be conservative while i was out of town. I should have turned off my computer and never looked. Im scewed.
I'm all cash now
I got out this morning in PRE MARKET. I wasn't going to be around a computer all day so I sold everything before the jobs and housing start came out. Will jump back in when we approach 1370.
DOGMA
There are so many huge volatility domino's around the world that if you buy TVIX under 20 your bound to see this thing go to 40-50+ in 2012 if you can handle the swings. The VIX under 20... come on people. Just look at the United States debt. That in itself is a ticking time bomb. I'm terrible at day trading but will sell my sizable TVIX position when it moves up 20% again and buy the pullback for that 40-50+ move.
Buy the rumor. Sell the news.*
We all know the cliche, but knowing how to apply it is the tricky part.*
It seems that many of the professional commentators follow the old "double-agent" rule. They provide information that LOOKS useful, but they always seem to tell us the big secret only AFTER the information can no longer be of any use to us.*
Small gain strategy. Divide and conquer.*
Soon, I am going to start using half of my shares for in-and-out trading. I will keep the other half for holding my position, just in case of a sudden rise in price. After I buy back the half that I sold, then this will become my "holding" half, and I can trade the other half that I was holding previously.*
Because of my small number of shares to begin with, I can't divide any further. But as I add more into the account, I would like to split my trades for the same "stock" into 4 or 5 sections. This way, I can get in and out at different points, and always be holding a position in case of a sudden gain.*
I haven't done any day trading yet, but I assume I will be allowed the standard 3 day trades in a 5 day period. With a cash account, there is a problem waiting for the settlement date. By dividing the shares into several sections, we would always be trading a different block of shares, so the settlement date isn't a problem. And sometimes, "next day trading" would be just as good.*
The gains will be smaller, but so will the losses. Without some in-and-out trading, there might be no gains at all.*
This "stock" doesn't want to go above 20 dollars, but it likes to go below 18. Over the past few days, there have been a few opportunities to sell around 19 or 20, and buy back about 2 dollars cheaper. Even if it means taking a small loss on the sale price, the lower buy back price might make up for it.*
What we have here with TVIX is "the volatility of the volatility." Since this "stock" moves up and down so quickly and so erratically, it seems perfect for short term in-and-out trading, as many on this forum have said.*
After studying the ups and downs for a few weeks, I think I am ready to try something like this. Two things held me back: First of all, I am waiting for a large gain. I didn't think I had enough to split the amount into two trades. But I looked at the numbers with my calculator, and it looks tolerable. Second, I don't want to sell at a loss. I was hoping for 21 dollars, but that seems out of reach for now. If I can just about break even on the sale of half the shares, and buy back almost 2 dollars cheaper, then maybe I'll be in business as a stock trader.*
not sure but I said it evry time I went into a fight, my father always told me to hit the biggest one first, once he fell, all the others were easier. The market will fall, tvix will rise
I thought Phil Collins always said that, or sung that.
Still holding 1K at 14.05. Letting it run - I agree that if the market runs up and gets settled - loading up again around the same cost basis, mid-14's
I agree, back in the day I always went with the expression that the bigger they are the harder they fall ; )
let it run, the higher the better, patience. would love to reload in the 15,s JMO
heres my take/position- The market is whacked and long over due for a correction and there are plenty of indicators as to why, short positions, insider selling up ten fold, Europe, etc. IMO when it happens it will be big and fast, it will fall hard and the TVIX will explode.
IMO, you might get a spike tmrw.. but Mon when the Greek bailout happens look out below..
I like this VFH ETF i checked out today.. I think financials are going to breakout and this will return nicely.
I broke even trading TVIX for 3 weeks and I didn't sleep much. not healthy ...
I would only touch this if it hit 15 or below with a max of 1000 share exposure
Any thoughts on what we'll see tomorrow for pps high?
Always do the exact opposite of what they are trying to convince you, and you'll be one step ahead of everyone else.
check out that NBG close $$
yesterday the cnbc was all about pullbacks
today theyre all talking about breakouts
I'm watching for a buy in point also Cash but it looks like it wants lower than this...FWIW. Ask MasterTrader...he's been successful trading in and out...don't know if that's what you want? 17.60's are here.
wait, she is going to drop
Stop loss sold out of my 200 shares (bought at $20.07) at $19.65. Thank god it did. Thinking about buying in now in the $17.70s.
Thoughts?
JUST BOUGHT BACK IN 17.75 NOW THAT IS CHEAP
Yeah i think CraMER IS THE WORST
The Mush's
just for fun.and I don't mean to insult anyone.
The second Cramer said to sell AAPL and Stocksplit bought TVIX I sold TVIX and bought AAPL and MS
Stocksplit look at my post from yesterday. I said this ETN is not for you and to buy AAPL on the pullback and MS
Good luck to all
Check ZOOM. $400Mil revenues this year and the pos PE is les than 2. This is gonna go apechit anyday now...
12 mil float
check out NBG, did very well with one while TVIX was falling early last mounth
now that chart is resetting. HUMMM thanks
Look at SATC chart...
Rocco, good luck to you...this thing is a beast both going up and down...no lack of excitement here that's for sure. I held overnight for an extra few hundred and think I will need that for the Alka Seltzer :0)
hope you,r short on that short LOL
Shorted TVIX at $20.12 and covered at $19.58. Gonna leave it alone... Today at least, lol
No TVIX for you? This is your ATM.
econ. news today was strong. if i get back in for a flip, i,ll wait for the chart to reset.tried to get shares for a quick short, but no go. maybe i,ll call my broker to see if he can scare up a few
LOL, the market is going to blow up, it has to, no doubt, its coming for sure, TVIX is the place to be
CNBC also was just talking about some ECB trading Greek bonds they got at 30% discount for new Greek bonds...I don't know why but we dipped a bit off that as we were 18.60's when that was said and then made new low for the day 18.16 and now 18.36 we shall see where it's going...
24 million shares and Almost 3 hours left to go 8-0 WOW WEE
This stock really likes to MOVE quick. =P
LOL...Lower?
Tanking hard now 18.26..re-entry possible now?
BI, love TVIX for a downturn...but CNBC is the kiss of freakin death..LOL. Praying for under 18 to add. Good Luck with the trading.
saw that, tvix is trying to bounce off the 200 day, not looking good for a reentry
I sold out over 20 will buy later
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