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I understand I figured that out when I met with them in ny and miami, yaniv wanted to listen to me but dror was in charge, it's a sickness the scam part, it's all about I have more than u with dror....
I couldn't change his thinking, that was his business selling stock...
It wasn’t you — it was never supposed to be a legit business. There’s been so many people trying to show them potential, all the way back to when it was SPLI and wolfofweedst tried to steer them. It was always a scam.
If there was anything of value, Dror made sure there was a variation in name and/or ownership (just like the farm in CATV that SH’s don’t own) so that SHs never had a claim to it. It was all made up for the purpose of a PnD and a share selling scheme. If it was real it meant that he had to actually work, and that man has never worked an honest day in his life.
His entire MO going back decades has been running a scam. I’m surprised it took this long to nail the sob, but then again if it wasn’t for shady BD’s getting shut down left and right, and him getting desperate, it would still be going on full force.
No, plea hearing in front of a judge will be in 3-4 weeks. Sentencing won’t happen for a while longer, after the plea is entered.
Thank you. So sentencing should be within 3-4 weeks?
Hagen is pleading guilty and is excused from 3/21 pretrial conference.
Counsel requested change of plea hearing be set no sooner than 3-4 weeks out due to Defense Counsel dealing with an 87 year old elderly father.
He was close to reaching an agreement a couple of months ago, so I’m assuming the deal is made by now. I’ll have to take a closer look at his docket to see if there’s any new updates.
Did Hagen also plead Guilty?
Yes, I recall you mentioning (some of) that way back when. And I agree with you, they had legitimate opportunity. When I talked with them early on, it was clear that the amount of work they went through to bring the product to market was not trivial, white labeling it or not. I guess it’s just the mentality of those types. Always thinking they can screw over the regular guy, do what they want and never get caught.
It still pisses me off that D registered easygrinderrx.com within minutes of me my making that suggestion for a model in white. Lol. I was even going to get him in touch with my contacts in the medical device industry. SMH. Glad I didn’t pull in that favor.
The opportunity was there, but not on the path taken.
The sad part of it all. Is they should of listened to me, no need for the stock scam,
They had legitimate bus opportunities lined up for them, I had them lined up to appear on snoop and Martha's show If it was renewed after there initial season and it was.... among other things, wiz people I spoke to and were interested, Eminem team as well, and my one of my friends is good friends with Tony yayo,
For sure bro. I’m going to be like a fly on this piece of shit keeping a look out for his next scam. Including thousands of others that he screwed out of millions of dollars. I wouldn’t be surprised if he starts his next scam from behind bars. That’s what a slimy piece of shit he is.
Sad to say I was also hoping for a longer stay. 5 is ok and I certainly wouldn’t want to do it, but 10 would have been more to my liking. When you add up how many people were negatively impacted by his shenanigans it just doesn’t seem enough. But it is what it is and the process worked. I’m good with that.
The good thing is that in about 5 years we’ll be able to get the band back together, just like old days, and try to figure out what’s really going on. ;)
The good thing is he’s being charged with federal crimes which has must stricter guidelines than state. He has to serve 85% of his sentence. If word is he’s getting 5 years, then the majority of his sentence will be served behind bars. I was hoping for at least 10 lol.
Either way I’m def celebrating…woohoo :)
We’ll, well. I guess I could break out a nice bottle in his name this weekend. Long time coming.
Easy Grinder, no wait, EZ Grinder. Maybe he’ll get a tat while he’s away. Or a nickname? I hear that stuff happens sometimes.
I wonder where he’ll go? Maybe I’ll go visit? Maybe we should all go visit?
Dror Svorai is going to prison — he plead guilty!
Time to break out the bubblies
I’m still trying to find time and dreading it. Good for you though. You have a lot more patience than me :)
I filed. What a joy going through years of trades in an IRA account (with no 1099s)! Ugh.
LOL, "most honest CEO ever" material?
Where have I heard that before?
Some things never change.
Good job bro. I hope they manage to negotiate for more outta that scumbag.
I did I emailed her today...
Yep, that’s what I’ve seen as well. You should definitely go through with it.
Anyone that lost, however small or large as a result of years of Svorai et al schemes should go through with a claim.
That’s what those seized assets are for, of course minus costs of years of government litigation. But it wasn’t just Svorai that schemed in the six companies. Assets were seized from all six defendants that participated in the PnD scheme spanning years, and there’s plenty there to at least partially recoup losses once it’s all said and done.
Because dror got caught with his pants down, I do believe they did recoup significant funds
Yes thousands
I think I might just send her my info,
Please know that the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Northern District of Ohio did not notify every known investor in the public companies named in the indictment (PotNetwork Holdings, Inc. (“POTN”); Vapor Group, Inc. (“VPOR”); CLIC Technology, Inc. (“CLIC”); White Label Liquid, Inc. (“WLAB”); Canna Corporation (“CNCC”); and Grand Capital Ventures, Inc. (“GRCV”).) If you were not notified it may be because your transactions with any of the above-named companies fall outside the scope of our criminal allegations.
If, however, you have documentation you would like the investigators to review, such as a Form 1099, a brokerage statement, or, if you still own any relevant stocks, your most recent brokerage statement, please email or mail that documentation to our office’s attention. The mailing address is in my signature box below.
Lastly, please also know that any response or communication you receive is unique to you based on information available to investigators and therefore may not apply to any other individual investors with similar inquiries.
Sincerely,
Allison Kretz | Victim Witness Specialist
United States Courthouse| 801 West Superior Ave., Suite 400 | Cleveland, Ohio 44113
I’m hearing there are thousands of victims. Anyone else hear back or decide to go forward?
WN, good to hear from ya bud. I don’t have DM here, so I’ll try to reach out at happy hour on Friday :)
Man, I’m just glad the arm of justice finally caught up to these scammers. It only took a decade or so LOL. Let’s see if the punishment will fit the crime(s).
That was a classic.
Good to know, thanks for confirming/sharing.
It’s on my to-do list. I should get to it by this weekend.
That’s basically what I’m getting. Couple of other friends got in touch as well, with generally the same info. They requested all material information to be emailed and to officially open up a victim claim.
Still no letter so I called. They won’t provide much information unless i formally claim to be a victim of the shenanigans.
However, they did point me to this site to get some high level information https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndoh/victim-witness-assistance-program/multiple-victim-case-charles-vaccaro-et-al
Thank you brother. I’ll give them a call.
Keep in touch.
Thank you G! I will follow up with that number if I don’t get a letter in the next day or two.
Good to hear from you.
Not me but it's welcome!
CB and Locksmith, I did receive the letter Friday.
I was a little surprised as I had bailed out of VPOR withh no loss, (no significant gains however) I did own quite a large number of shares at one time though.
I probably won't fill out the Victim Impact Statement, at this time.
The number they give for further information is: 1-844-527-5299. Hope this helps!
Perhaps. I’ll see if I can make some time this week to make a call or two.
I guess we could call the number or use the email to figure out why other shareholders haven’t received a letter with a victim identification number.
I’m not exactly sure what criteria they’re using. I would be very interested to see the entire letter, to see what the instructions are. We can use that information.
I have not. Would I have had to file a complaint in order to get on that list?
I didn’t know to expect a letter like that, but having seen it on the other board I’m kind of wondering why I didn’t get one, especially considering the conversations I had with agents from Cleveland. Perhaps my loss wasn’t beyond a certain threshold? IDK
Has anyone here received a letter from government identifying you as a shareholder during the investigation? Apparently some people are getting these letters.
There’s finally a trial date. Two of the six named defendants took a plea deal. We’ll find out in the next few weeks who’s cooperating and who’s going to trial.
Hi CB. Yes, bailed out of VPOR a few tears back without any losses..
Investing and following the new bloosoming hydrogen fuel and vehicle industry at this time.
All the best to you,
G
Good to hear from you brother. Hope all is well and you’ve made up for this POS.
Speaking of the devil, the crooks just filed for another extension. Looks like we won’t be able to officially celebrate until 2023 :-/
Thanks for the update CB! Orange jumpsuits await!
A new filing in FBI case for Vaccaro — now trying to get his Rolls back and claiming he’s poor, but the U.S. attorney is in no mood to F around. Apparently he has another luxury yacht purchased on the backs of shareholders that wasn’t seized that he can sell, all while claiming he’s poor. Scumbags, all of them!
07/18/2022:
IHub is a little late catching up to the amended SEC rules — that you can’t show a quote for flagged issuers in the U.S. If you go to the “quote” link on OTCM, there’s nothing there, not even charts.
I believe iHub is still tweaking this, and it’s a work in progress.
Anyone knows what happened to this ticker? It's no longer on ihub but this board is.
Ah, that’s a good theory. I was thinking maybe he knows his fate is sealed, and just trying to give a middle finger to the people that have his freedom in their hands. Or, maybe he’s attempting to get more information as to the government’s case by way of the newly released supplemental.
It’s puzzling, that’s for sure.
I’m going to go with the theory that Chuckles doesn’t really own the dinghy, some other bad guy does and he wants it back.
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On July 20, 2017, Yaniv Nahon, VP, COO and Secretary of the Company was appointed the new President & CEO and Treasurer of the Company, and Dror Svorai, former President & CEO of the Company resigned as an officer and director of the Company and each of its subsidiaries in order to pursue other interests. Simultaneously, Jorge Schcolnik, Chief Financial Officer of the Company was named a member of the Board of Directors of the Company and corporate Secretary.
Concomitantly on July 20, 2017, Dror Svorai entered into a stock purchase agreement with SF Holdings LLC, a privately-held investment company with which he is not affiliated, wherein he sold 100% of his Series A Preferred Stock to SF Holdings LLC and transferred voting control of the Company to SF Holdings LLC. Terms of the stock purchase agreement were not disclosed. Mr. Svorai agreed for an indeterminate amount of time to act as a consultant to the Company's management to smooth the transition.
On August 14, 2017, the Company posted on OTC Markets.com, its second quarter 2017 disclosure statement citing the above changes. The Company also posted its second quarter 2017 financial statements. Yaniv Nahon, current President & CEO of the Company, stated, "The financial statements as of June 30th don't reflect the huge sales gains of Easy Grinder™ to date that we have made since shipping and invoicing only began in early June, with product inventory arriving in multiple shipments throughout the month. So, the financial statements show only a few weeks of Easy Grinder™ sales results." He added, "You'll see a huge gain in our revenues in the third quarter report as Easy Grinder™ sales climbed upward. Also, we made significant sales gains from our attendance at the BIG Industry Show in New York City in August, and ASD Market Week and the CHAMPS Trade Show in Las Vegas in July. This is going to be a very good year."
Link to Press Release here
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