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And not tell us they have total controlling interest in said sales of product
Not all businesses tell you they sold $40,000 units when in actuality...they didn't sell $40,000 units. THAT is not trial and error. That's why people are bailing.
And who knows what percentage they actually get for distribution...it's not like they'll book anywhere near the expected revenue for the product. The potential here has really gone up in smoke. I bailed.
NNNext!
Yeah people were expecting it to make them rich and there was a few drawbacks so now they're jumping overboard. Not all Businesses execute everything perfectly on their first time, it takes trial and error for some..
Those revenues don't reflect any more than their vape segment, since ~$50k is right around what they've been producing before Easy Grinder, that's why I was shocked that they couldn't book at least a very small percentage, but if they're essentially saying those early contracts are now null and void...well, then... that's that.
12,000 is it...and maybe another thousand by September 30th (if they're lucky) and that's Q-3 right there.
Yaniv is experiencing a very public and embarrassing learning curve.
His PR today went a long way with me. Balancing design, manufacturing, product revision, marketing, sales, and investor relations isn't as easy as some might think. It's been only 83 days since the revised grinder shipped. I'm pretty content to give VPOR another 83 days to see what happens next.
90mill shares were dumped on the 8/15 and it went to 0.0004. 90mill shares TRADED today and it only went to 0.0015 and closed at 0.0018. There's actually a difference here.
I bought some of Audi's shares today.
If they have launched in markets their measley 30k in revenue doesn't reflect it.
I don't know brother, if any of it was true...doesn't look that way. As far as the CBD, didn't they already proclaim they were selling CBD? Same for Europe...I thought they already moved into Europe? I feel like they've essentially ran outta things to say and are recycling some old news.
They lost some great shareholders today!
Thank you man, for all your efforts. It certainly wasn't for lack of trying. Check back around Q-3. They still have the Cork to pump and dump. Buy low sell high brother. I'll be keeping in touch with you, and you make sure to do the same.
Good luck
I didn't sell any and don't intend to... I am waiting for the long term
Idk I don't see anything bad. Went all the way down to 0.0004, recovered. Went up for a few days now sold to 0.0015 and started to recover to 0.0018. the people who got in on around the new 52 week low are just selling for profit now from what I can tell.
Sell sell sell
No
I was 99 percent down on VPOR
Me neither, but very skeptical due to timing of today's news. Should have been communicated months ago. The just said shipments delayed due to improvements, not orders rescinded.
You're the only one that has that information, when all other emails have been told that they can't release information. They issued a PR hours ago without any mention of this.
From experience, and for everyone's sake -- to protect shareholders there better be a PR by end of the day. Regulators don't look kindly on this sort of thing.
You were down 99% prior to buying into VAPOR? From other stock plays? You originally bought 100M shares around the .0001 mark? And then your 100M shares brought you out of the red and then some?
just clarifying the story. I see this being a LONG time before it bounces back, if ever. I was hoping to sell because I wanted to go away for vacation and repay some loans, but that will have to be on hold. I was really certain with this one. If I sell, then I hope they end up fined and in jail. If I keep, I hope all stays well and improves
90 million shares dumped today. How many just from regulars on this board?
As of this morning, there is still no
indication that any paper work has been filed with the FL SOS showing SF holdings, LLC. that is connected to Yaniv or any other officer connected to VPOR. It could be in the works, but so far, nothing. GLTA $VPOR
its investors@vaporgroup.com It is not investor@vaporgroup.com
Re: vpor--SF holdings
From:
Investors relations <investors@vaporgroup.com>
To:
wmeshel <wmeshel@aol.com>
Date:
Tue, Aug 22, 2017 10:39 am
Dear William
Yaniv is the managing member of SF Holdings, LLC, which was formed to purchase Dror’s Series A Preferred Stock under the agreement with him.
Thank you,
On Aug 22, 2017, at 8:55 AM, wmeshel@aol.com wrote:
HI guys-- Could you please explain to us : who SF holdings is, why we are connected to them, how they will influence decisions Y may want to make.. Do they have total control of our company?
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Ahhh the grand exit of the all in club continues and all I can see is a buying opportunity. Reality deflated excessive self feeding short term expectations that had ballooned to astronomical levels. 12,000 units sold in first two months isn't a bad start. By the next quarterly release I would imagine that number will have grown. Nothing has changed more then missed unreasonably high expectations. I love my grinder. The product is the best on the market and demand will build. Funny how nobody seems to be placing a value on the simple cork which just a few weeks ago was bigger then the grinder and was going to revolutionize the wine industry. The next product that just obtained a French patient protecting itself from knockoffs bringing it one step closer to being released. Sorry so many got their panties in a bunch I'll miss your input. GLTY
It was a reply to my question to investor@vaporgroup.com I asked who and what and why was SF. They answered in email that SF was formed to buy Drors preferred shares and that Yaniv was managing partner.. I don't think that is insider information.That was an answer to a question I posed today and an answer I got today
I know it's not much of comfort but I was in your situation last year
I remember being on vacation with my family early July of 2016 and we saw the news that they becoming non SEC compliant and I thought I lost it all... We were trading at 0001 back then and I was down 99 percent of my account
I have a little over 100m shares back then...
I never sold and my attitude has been it's not worth it to sell...
Some how we got another run early this year and I was able to walk away with what I put in plus some freebies
My advice to you is either sell and move on or ride it out and hope we get another run
Knowing these crooks ( allegedly) they will make it run again...
Sorry to read your post it really hurts me...
Good luck
My question is? Based on the number of sales over the past year... how can you afford plane tickets, hotels, food, and ect-- China, Las Vegas, New York ect. That doesn't include show fees, salaries, and all other expenses.....To me it was a good product with poor results... The light at the end of the tunnel comes from legalization and oversea's sales? Am I correct??? And based on financials won't this company be broke by then. My interest ended today with a loss. I'd like to hear how this stock can turn it around.
You do understand that's inside information, correct? I thought their response to Canadian was we can not communicate with shareholders selectively. Nothing in today's PR mentioned any of this!!!!
This needs to be in a PR by end of day or they're jeopardizing everyone here!
shame to see you guys leave. more share lol take the hit
Thanks Cash. I know.. something has been bugging me for a couple of weeks with no PR. And then the awful financials, and an even worse follow up.
1.2K compensation was a mistake ? Things just don't add up to me. They would have honestly been better off with no news, so what's the motive.. I wonder. I have a grinder. Great product.. so what gives ?
very, very sorry to hear that... You were a great asset.. wish you great future endeavors
Yikes. So the visit to trade show is not relevant anymore? What about the amazing news coming that they convinced you of?
Really, really bad. I am sticking because Y is honest and they are being straight with us. They respond to questions at investor@vaporgroup.com I asked about SF and they said Yaniv is managing partner of SF . SF was formed to buy Drors preferred shares.
If Y is in total control; and I think he his, we will be in good shape long term.. I agree a company buyback at these prices would be great.
I just don't want any more exaggerated expections and want the company to act in a responsible manner.
It is definitely not good right now.. I have no idea where the bottom is on this
I got scared out of this once before to my great loss.. I don't want to repeat the performance
I WILL HAVE TO BECOME A GREAT LIAR
I mean, I can imagine somehow family are going to ask my about my finances. I will have to take this one with me to the grave. I have not sold any yet; busy at work, and wasn't sure about any type of small bounce. THIS WAS THE WORST FINANCIAL MISTAKE I'VE EVER MADE! Not small potatoes for me.
This is the end, my only friend, the end
Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end…
On the plus side: if Trump starts WW-III, I won't have to be paranoid about lying about my money anymore.
I'm out guys, Sorry.
I did my best.
All the best to you all...
deff a kick in the nut sack. but i see a perfect time to buy. q3 hits and we do show all the right info correct right info this will go. until then load or sell no one is holding a gun to anyone's head.
Sad to go back and see the excitement we all had before financials. Now this.
If your gut feeling says there's something wrong, chances are you are correct. There's gotta be a good mix of technicals, mixed with fundamentals and emotional aspects to drive price. Right now all those point down.
GLTA
you got that right
Amen brother! A lot of money to be made from the fear today!
"Be greedy when others are fearful. Be fearful
when others are greedy."
Sell sell sell
ACOL the medtainer is
$$$$$$$$
I dont think he cares. I tweeted him many times, and no response.
I think we'll get a dead cat bounce tomorrow to reach .0026 then after that most will sell off for good. As a supporter from last February I have always hoped and maintained trust in this company, management, etc. Yea the product is good, but it's success was heavily due to our money.
The question I have is, for 6 months the constant manipulation in the PPS, was it them doing it to reach their goals of filling their pockets?
Sad sad sad couple of weeks
The biggest act Yaniv can do to make things right with us shareholders is buy back shares. That would be a man up move possibly could RETRIBUTE all the recent fluffs
So........hmmmmm.... the 40k presold units in Netherlands never filled. So.... was that all a lie and a pump fluff PR? ALLLLL those batteries in China on Twitter........ where did those go? Trade show sales, what about those? HOW MANY GOD DAMN GRINDERS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN SHIPPED????!!!!!!
Plus the latest PR insinuates they are going to focus more on cbd oils. The phuck????? That is a saturated market at this point. PLUS the R&D and manufacturing will take at least a year. The grinder was the FLAGSHIP PRODUCT to this ticker and now it's independent of VPOR??!!
Hindsight though. We we're saying this regarding Q2 fins and look what happened and where we're at now
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On July 20, 2017, Yaniv Nahon, VP, COO and Secretary of the Company was appointed the new President & CEO and Treasurer of the Company, and Dror Svorai, former President & CEO of the Company resigned as an officer and director of the Company and each of its subsidiaries in order to pursue other interests. Simultaneously, Jorge Schcolnik, Chief Financial Officer of the Company was named a member of the Board of Directors of the Company and corporate Secretary.
Concomitantly on July 20, 2017, Dror Svorai entered into a stock purchase agreement with SF Holdings LLC, a privately-held investment company with which he is not affiliated, wherein he sold 100% of his Series A Preferred Stock to SF Holdings LLC and transferred voting control of the Company to SF Holdings LLC. Terms of the stock purchase agreement were not disclosed. Mr. Svorai agreed for an indeterminate amount of time to act as a consultant to the Company's management to smooth the transition.
On August 14, 2017, the Company posted on OTC Markets.com, its second quarter 2017 disclosure statement citing the above changes. The Company also posted its second quarter 2017 financial statements. Yaniv Nahon, current President & CEO of the Company, stated, "The financial statements as of June 30th don't reflect the huge sales gains of Easy Grinder™ to date that we have made since shipping and invoicing only began in early June, with product inventory arriving in multiple shipments throughout the month. So, the financial statements show only a few weeks of Easy Grinder™ sales results." He added, "You'll see a huge gain in our revenues in the third quarter report as Easy Grinder™ sales climbed upward. Also, we made significant sales gains from our attendance at the BIG Industry Show in New York City in August, and ASD Market Week and the CHAMPS Trade Show in Las Vegas in July. This is going to be a very good year."
Link to Press Release here
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