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shame to see you guys leave. more share lol take the hit
Thanks Cash. I know.. something has been bugging me for a couple of weeks with no PR. And then the awful financials, and an even worse follow up.
1.2K compensation was a mistake ? Things just don't add up to me. They would have honestly been better off with no news, so what's the motive.. I wonder. I have a grinder. Great product.. so what gives ?
very, very sorry to hear that... You were a great asset.. wish you great future endeavors
Yikes. So the visit to trade show is not relevant anymore? What about the amazing news coming that they convinced you of?
Really, really bad. I am sticking because Y is honest and they are being straight with us. They respond to questions at investor@vaporgroup.com I asked about SF and they said Yaniv is managing partner of SF . SF was formed to buy Drors preferred shares.
If Y is in total control; and I think he his, we will be in good shape long term.. I agree a company buyback at these prices would be great.
I just don't want any more exaggerated expections and want the company to act in a responsible manner.
It is definitely not good right now.. I have no idea where the bottom is on this
I got scared out of this once before to my great loss.. I don't want to repeat the performance
I WILL HAVE TO BECOME A GREAT LIAR
I mean, I can imagine somehow family are going to ask my about my finances. I will have to take this one with me to the grave. I have not sold any yet; busy at work, and wasn't sure about any type of small bounce. THIS WAS THE WORST FINANCIAL MISTAKE I'VE EVER MADE! Not small potatoes for me.
This is the end, my only friend, the end
Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end…
On the plus side: if Trump starts WW-III, I won't have to be paranoid about lying about my money anymore.
I'm out guys, Sorry.
I did my best.
All the best to you all...
deff a kick in the nut sack. but i see a perfect time to buy. q3 hits and we do show all the right info correct right info this will go. until then load or sell no one is holding a gun to anyone's head.
Sad to go back and see the excitement we all had before financials. Now this.
If your gut feeling says there's something wrong, chances are you are correct. There's gotta be a good mix of technicals, mixed with fundamentals and emotional aspects to drive price. Right now all those point down.
GLTA
you got that right
Amen brother! A lot of money to be made from the fear today!
"Be greedy when others are fearful. Be fearful
when others are greedy."
Sell sell sell
ACOL the medtainer is
$$$$$$$$
I dont think he cares. I tweeted him many times, and no response.
I think we'll get a dead cat bounce tomorrow to reach .0026 then after that most will sell off for good. As a supporter from last February I have always hoped and maintained trust in this company, management, etc. Yea the product is good, but it's success was heavily due to our money.
The question I have is, for 6 months the constant manipulation in the PPS, was it them doing it to reach their goals of filling their pockets?
Sad sad sad couple of weeks
The biggest act Yaniv can do to make things right with us shareholders is buy back shares. That would be a man up move possibly could RETRIBUTE all the recent fluffs
So........hmmmmm.... the 40k presold units in Netherlands never filled. So.... was that all a lie and a pump fluff PR? ALLLLL those batteries in China on Twitter........ where did those go? Trade show sales, what about those? HOW MANY GOD DAMN GRINDERS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN SHIPPED????!!!!!!
Plus the latest PR insinuates they are going to focus more on cbd oils. The phuck????? That is a saturated market at this point. PLUS the R&D and manufacturing will take at least a year. The grinder was the FLAGSHIP PRODUCT to this ticker and now it's independent of VPOR??!!
Hindsight though. We we're saying this regarding Q2 fins and look what happened and where we're at now
The product could disappear at any moment...just like your money. I'm out.
People are dropping like flies around here Yaniv. Although the news explained 1 thing us SH need to see a solid business plan and clarify whether or not our PPS can and will be affected by EZ grinder. There are mixed messages.
I still like this product and if wishes were Majical ,this stock would have turned to GOLD! I was here for a long long time regardless --but lucky enough I got one of my hunches and sold majority @ .0023 the day before we dipped to .0013 ..I am not smart money by any means-Lucky?--I am upset about this stock.Will I ever reinvest in it? Who knows?
I don't get it. Something isn't right. Cant put my finger on it though.
1.2 Mil in salary suddenly disappeared on corrected report. ????
HOLY COW. I've been a long supporter of VPOR and holding long, but with this news, its awful. Stock is tanking and I don't think it's even at the point to flip it to make $ back. Dont know what Yaniv and Company is thinking on this one. This PR was worse than the last one. Anyone think they're driving the price down for a reason ?
Tough stock to like! Tried to find positives after owning this stock for a year! Good luck to you all I'm out for good! I don't trust management.
sorry, I just bailed, tax loss, might buy back if they can post solid sales & rev #s later, good luck
Sadly, my advice here is skewed.
I like to say, it is only gambling if you don't know what you're doing. This time around I'm gambling and holding until Q3 Fins.
Stewy
Yep-holding here as well
I had to read that PR twice to make sure I wasn't seeing things. At least I've learned a few things throughout the years with Dror and Yaniv, and thats to spot how they plan on siphoning cash and finance it with toxic financing or preferred shares. They did it with American Smoke -- then came VGR Media -- remember that? LOL
Seriously, not a penny of E.G. sales on Q-2 but all the expenses? LOL
That's what they did and to
make it legal, signed a contract between Total Vapor and EZ Grinder. At the time, Dror was still CEO of Total Vapor, so he basically signed a contract with himself. We need to see a copy of that contract and we still need information on 'SF Holdings, LLC.'
Yes
Make no sense, the only way to explain it is they found the perfect way to expense everything on VPOR books ( and probably fund it by issuing shares 800m sounds about right) while taking all the revenues on their private business
What a classic con ( allegedly)
Just read the letter from CEO .ill hold my shares I don't see this as anything other than .......BUSINESS AS USUAL
So am I hearing this correct we have not sold that many grinders .the grinder doesn't work ummmm it's not real um .or it's just people talking out there neck
i am staying with my shares and adding every chance i have. ride out the wave. strong hands i like the grinder and we are moving them. a lot of of forgot this is a penny stock. that's what you do with a penny stock you buy when bad pr is out and wait for this to blow up.
I'm with you there
What doesn't work is they never told us about it. Based on PRs a minimum of 40k units sold. If that number later is adjusted materially....I would say 40k units vs 12k units is material....then they should disclose that to shareholders in my opinion. Prior to today, like when they were aware of it.
Bro this is going down so Yaniv and DROR can enjoy you guys money
In November December this is where the big boy will get back in for a
Run until February . Sale now and get back in later.
I have sold my 8 millions. Good luck to all
Told you all. You should of listened..Crappy stock crappy Company. Smoke and Mirrors is all it was.. Lol
Yes, there's always some sort of technical bounce, but the chart needs to reset.
Unfortunately none of what they put in their press releases turned out to be true. I feel they would've fared better with shareholders if they had been honest from the start and not inflated numbers so drastically, since they obviously were aware of factors months ago, however honesty is not their best attribute.
You just have to make the appropriate decision that's best for you based on these new set of facts.
GLTY
That would be a good time to look into re-entry. Market will adjust pps soon as to where it should really be trading based on current info. Maybe look into it as it gets closer to Q-3 mid-November -- maybe there will even be more answers by then. Good luck man.
GOOD GOD - THIS IS AWFUL!!!!
I mean, nothing was going as they led us to believe. Even after overcoming initial difficulties, they have not even filled one of the 20K orders months later. This is NOT their best year ever as Dror exclaimed. They've had more revenue previous years. HOly s***, what have they been thinking this whole time??
I'm going to wait for the drop/bounce (hopefully they'll be a bounce), then sell.
If VPOR is using accrual accounting (which I highly doubt) sales cannot be recorded on units sold but rather when shipped or onsite sale.
If they are using cash based accounting (which is very common in small business) then sales should be recorded as soon as they get the cash no questions asked. Why they didn't report sales in their 2Q financials is beyond me, but if they want to start acting like a real company, they need to get their due diligence done.
Today's news finally shows some clarity in their business, but they still have a long way to go. Any news they have should always include x number of units or dollars and not the handjob "large" or "great" expectations.
They basically sacrificed 40,000 in sales to create a better product...works for me
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On July 20, 2017, Yaniv Nahon, VP, COO and Secretary of the Company was appointed the new President & CEO and Treasurer of the Company, and Dror Svorai, former President & CEO of the Company resigned as an officer and director of the Company and each of its subsidiaries in order to pursue other interests. Simultaneously, Jorge Schcolnik, Chief Financial Officer of the Company was named a member of the Board of Directors of the Company and corporate Secretary.
Concomitantly on July 20, 2017, Dror Svorai entered into a stock purchase agreement with SF Holdings LLC, a privately-held investment company with which he is not affiliated, wherein he sold 100% of his Series A Preferred Stock to SF Holdings LLC and transferred voting control of the Company to SF Holdings LLC. Terms of the stock purchase agreement were not disclosed. Mr. Svorai agreed for an indeterminate amount of time to act as a consultant to the Company's management to smooth the transition.
On August 14, 2017, the Company posted on OTC Markets.com, its second quarter 2017 disclosure statement citing the above changes. The Company also posted its second quarter 2017 financial statements. Yaniv Nahon, current President & CEO of the Company, stated, "The financial statements as of June 30th don't reflect the huge sales gains of Easy Grinder™ to date that we have made since shipping and invoicing only began in early June, with product inventory arriving in multiple shipments throughout the month. So, the financial statements show only a few weeks of Easy Grinder™ sales results." He added, "You'll see a huge gain in our revenues in the third quarter report as Easy Grinder™ sales climbed upward. Also, we made significant sales gains from our attendance at the BIG Industry Show in New York City in August, and ASD Market Week and the CHAMPS Trade Show in Las Vegas in July. This is going to be a very good year."
Link to Press Release here
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