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Yes they do. Curious that that hasn't been updated on the OTC site yet. It's been over a year.
Just sharing my informal tally from those who have shared, even though I have no way of adjusting amounts as a result of last week's chaos.
Dror and Yaniv already have the nobo list -- they know the exact number of ownership. Running over shareholders has never been a big deal to them.
Prior disclosures on this board put well over 10% of the OS in "our" hands.
Why don't you run a tally of everyone's shares and then give this Yaniv a total. Based upon what I've read...we all have a lot of shares. This dude doesn't want to see a huge dump. Get gangsta on his wallet with a threat of a huge dump. He's dirt. We play his game and hit him right in the coin purse.
I would've sold a lot more if it wasn't for that pop last week that I was able to trade. We'll see brother. My patience is limited to this week, and then I'll start lightening the load even more.
Considering they've been on their BS tour for longer than 6 months -- if there's no indication of any upside then I don't expect many to continue to hold when we don't know what we hold, or what we're holding for.
King are you looking at a chart? Why you saying it's looking ready to blow?
news by mid week or my shares are gone as well, and my relatives somewhere around 4 mil shares total
Cash, you still in this or sell off?
He figured out Dror's scams long time ago.
I would interested to know what Chumball has to say as the world turns.
they will patience.
Give us a DETAILED PR please Yaniv!!!!! Let's get this to high 30s. We're so undervalued here. Also please pay the small amount to get news on ihub!!!
Let's get this rolling
Just got to watch the total eclipse, pretty
impressive. Now, VPOR needs to impress us! $VPOR
Very likely an investor that bought in the 1's last Tuesday just sold for 2-2.5 times profit. So far today none of the shares sold today were shorted.
i think i may have to get the rest tomorrow. if i can. for now a mill should be ok
Anyone got L2? How's it looking
i don't know she looks ready to blow, and i want more shares lol
you saved some $
i picked up a mill debating if i should sell my other stock.
bid is 002---what happened??
no not yet i just picked up a mill i want to pick up another 5 mill@ 22
I'll feel a little bit better when .0025's show up on the bid side
Pure speculation here (unfortunately, that is all we have to go on for now): What if the Officer compensation was not a true oversight, but the profit from sales of the grinder, allocated to Dror's compensation. Thus making them easy to take off financials since they left with Dror?
Great post Cash, and I remember our posts back and forth regarding exiting if things turned sour. And look at that, we even solved the mysterious disappearance of Audi..welcome back. I suspect many here could have used your unwavering pro Vpor messaging the last week. I believe this week is about as big as it gets as it may end up being a make or break week for some major players on this board and in general.
Will do Engines!
Since there is no asset listed for a plant in China, I have assumed they bought capacity, not property. They probably paid for the specific tooling and buildout, but I believe that would show as an expense item and not a capital one, especially if they don't actually own the facility. I could be wrong, but I believe the PR said they "opened" a facility, not they "purchased" a facility.
It would also make sense from a cost perspective. While they would have been on the hook for their specific tooling, the labor would be variable as orders fluctuate. Farming out the labor to a third party would be prudent with that variability. Why take on the overhead of hiring EEs when you can just pay for what you need?
If you speak to Y again, also ask him where in the financials is depicted ownership/purchase of the plant in China. Right now, there is only a description of their office in Florida. It's as if they left out China period. Mortgage? Assets or liabilities? Unless you or someone else was able to locate it. My bridges are burned with Vapor - they'll never answer me.
Ok, that's all.
I also met Dror and Yaniv at ASD, speaking with both of them at length. I came away with same perspective as Audi.
But, just like many of you, I also want additional clarity this week.
Rush, you asked me a while ago what if any of this disappoints, and I said on a couple occasions back then before they released E.G. that I was cautiously optimistic, but if at any point I felt I was being bamboozled, then I'll be the first to speak-up. I'm sure you didn't believe me because you don't know me, but my word is all I have.
I'm in touch via DM, twitter, and email with a couple dozen investors, all of which are on the edge and in panic mode. They won't post because they've got some decisions to make this week.
I can 100% vouch for Audi. He's very much a real investor, and in the same boat as the rest of us.
We have to stick together and PUSH back -- because we all have a common interest.
We'll know this week if they want to send this to trips -- and the only way to avoid that is a major news release.
Dror is becoming way too predictable because he's run too many of these scams. The game never changes -- only the players... Will this be his last? I don't think so...
Wrong still here.
Not an employee either.
will be exciting to see if these conmen with their backs against the wall will even address a few of the questions---they are not used to being called out and may answer with selling the ticker into oblivion!!-------tmonkey
Come on Yaniv, don't let us down this week!
Everyone was right when they said vpor was not for the faint of heart. I can't take this roller coaster much longer.
I like my sanity more than losing sleep, worrying if I am being conned, so I might take my losses as a hard lesson soon. I will stick with what I know best and that is the less volatile, more stable companies on legitimate exchanges. I had no business here in the first place.
Thanks to everyone for the time spent digging for information, but we shouldn't have to dig this hard. Thanks to everyone for the warning signs that I did not pay attention too.
Prove us wrong Yaniv!
I called him out last week and nothing. He went to the nyc convention and said he met them and they had crazy good news etc. Since fins he's been MIA. Who knows at this point, maybe he was and is a vpor employee? Everything is shady at this point.
Sad.
Nice post Cash. I hope they are reading this and writing their PR as G oil is predicting. I can see the PPS dropping as more and more will want to sell if they do not address the concerns of the shareholders
Damn. This is the best post in a while. Address these in a PR by Friday or im cashing out my 5M shares and never looking back
EZ Grinder... orders... revenues... trade shows... repeat, repeat, repeat... aaaaannd *poof* it's gone !!!
really glad I only put $500 into this... deceived !!!
I am going into hibernation for the next couple months.
I'm just going to stop looking and hope something comes out for 3rd Quarter, and that everything has been on the up-and-up, and Vapor will receive direct profits from EG sales, etc. I mean, Dror is already watched under a microscope - I can't imagine they'd intentionally act in an underhanded fashion.
I am long, 100% of my portfolio, and sticking it out. If things do not go as planned, and Q3 is not what Yaniv promised, then I will go to the SEC, however useless that will be.
Per post 102222 May 2nd, I was concerned regarding Dror and his shady past and remembered well the backlash I received on how that was in the past, he's changed etc etc. These guts are dirty, that much is clear. How dirty, it's still unclear, but I'm willing to bet really dirty. I'm glad I only have a token amount of shares in this thing. For those you have alot invested here, this week may very well be the nail in the coffin if we don't get a perfect PR answering many questions we all have. Good luck to all, but I sense this is a sinking ship...and there are only so many lifeboats to go around. Dror and Yaniv have their's...how about you??
Maybe there have been EZ pre-orders to the tune of 10,000,000 making this $1,200,000 salary relevant??
Yes
There is a lot of unknown here
I hope things will get sorted soon
Riddle me this Batman: If we have only had an interest in the distribution of the Easy Grinder, why would Yaniv have been compelled to go to China to buy/build additional manufacturing capacity? Sounds like that would be out of his duties as the "head" of distribution.
Unless a miracle of ethics and human decency is achieved this week prepare for triple zero's < .0009 (less than) for the rest of the month. D= Don't look at the SMA it is not a good tool to use with these circumstances.
Yes, I understand NewGen is out of the picture. I was addressing Bill's question of what we have left?
We dont own ez grinder. Then what do we own and for how long. Rights to distribute? Cant that change. We own nothing?
The point was I'm still waiting on the Div.
Thank you for your incite. I try to learn from everyone I can.
We can only apply our best judgement to arrive at a logical conclusion based on the facts.
With this new set of facts it's natural to assume everything is shady.
I believe they'll roll in the cork... and Yaniv will be replaced by the next CEO to take the spotlight. The question is do they want to send this to trips by holding back on news, or will we see some major update next week? If it's the former, then this is straight out of Dror's playbook.
If we are to deduce from those financials that the grinder has run its course and Dror owns all Easy Grinder rights, then naturally they'd want to squeeze the last bit out and roll in the next shiny object ala Cork to distract from any Q-3 disappointments.
Legit or just a front -- makes no difference, and who knows since Company won't say, and FL SOS shows no proof there's been any shares transferred to SF...but what if there's a brand new management team stepping in and looking for an equity interest -- after all they just bought the controlling block and obviously they're not in this out of the goodness of their heart.
Does this mean either issuing new shares and blowing up the OS even more and maxing AS... or will they restructure SS with a RS....just as Dror and Yaniv's billions of preferred shares come off restriction in October? I think they should hand over their preferred shares.
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Let's see that Guidance Yaniv.
It's almost 7 days since that disastrous report and any legit company that wasn't solely interested in a PnD maneuver would've followed up immediately with forward guidance.
Here's some questions for you and Dror to spin into your next web...
___Tell us who SF is and who's shares are investors holding/buying...are we selling fidgets and emoji pillows?___
____Tell us who the new CEO will be?___
___Tell us who the management team is for SF, and how many shares are they being issued?___
___Tell us why VPOR doesn't own Easy Grinder?___
___Tell us that you will be locking up all preferred shares for 1 year (from your ol' playbook), or canceling them to reduce OS, or issuing them to new management with lock-up provisions ___
___Tell us you won't take another dime of toxic debt and you won't issue another single share for conversion. NOT 1! You already went back on your word once from earlier this year.___
___Tell us there are no plans for a RS for a period of at least one year___
___Tell us if the certificate at the transfer agent for 850 million shares is paying off ALL the debt...according to fins it was issued for debt conversion, but most importantly when will they be selling those shares?___
___You blew up the OS by a billion shares when you said you had no intention of further dilution.___
___You said you sold 40k units -- distributer with 7k stores -- another in Amsterdam, factory in China, and booked $2M in sales at the beginning of the year, yet months later we have yet to see any proof or a dime of those sales___
___You said you were paying off your liens, but got more slapped on top.___
___________So tell us... why in the heck should we believe a single word of what you have to say?____________
I'm sure I can come up with a couple dozen more concerns but I don't want to fry the spin machine.
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On July 20, 2017, Yaniv Nahon, VP, COO and Secretary of the Company was appointed the new President & CEO and Treasurer of the Company, and Dror Svorai, former President & CEO of the Company resigned as an officer and director of the Company and each of its subsidiaries in order to pursue other interests. Simultaneously, Jorge Schcolnik, Chief Financial Officer of the Company was named a member of the Board of Directors of the Company and corporate Secretary.
Concomitantly on July 20, 2017, Dror Svorai entered into a stock purchase agreement with SF Holdings LLC, a privately-held investment company with which he is not affiliated, wherein he sold 100% of his Series A Preferred Stock to SF Holdings LLC and transferred voting control of the Company to SF Holdings LLC. Terms of the stock purchase agreement were not disclosed. Mr. Svorai agreed for an indeterminate amount of time to act as a consultant to the Company's management to smooth the transition.
On August 14, 2017, the Company posted on OTC Markets.com, its second quarter 2017 disclosure statement citing the above changes. The Company also posted its second quarter 2017 financial statements. Yaniv Nahon, current President & CEO of the Company, stated, "The financial statements as of June 30th don't reflect the huge sales gains of Easy Grinder™ to date that we have made since shipping and invoicing only began in early June, with product inventory arriving in multiple shipments throughout the month. So, the financial statements show only a few weeks of Easy Grinder™ sales results." He added, "You'll see a huge gain in our revenues in the third quarter report as Easy Grinder™ sales climbed upward. Also, we made significant sales gains from our attendance at the BIG Industry Show in New York City in August, and ASD Market Week and the CHAMPS Trade Show in Las Vegas in July. This is going to be a very good year."
Link to Press Release here
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