VMC Predictions

[lentinman]

Delayed DOG STANDINGS WEEK 5:

Weekly leaders are at the bottom of this post.

     Cumulative ratings 
  1  THREES       0.250  DOW #7, OIL #6, GOLD #9:  LAST WEEK'S OVERALL RANK: #1 
  2  Nelson       0.476   
  3  Wyobuford    0.480  Oil Leader 
  4  A1derfulLife 0.508 
  5  MR.  MEDIAN  0.586 
  6  MSGI         0.596 
  7  SSKillz      0.620 
  8  PostCog      0.623 
  9  LatinBlood   0.667 
 10  MikeS        0.667 
 11  Lentinman    0.673 
 12  Knowledge    0.682 
 13  Ari          0.687 
 14  TMCal        0.758 
 15  LTMatt       0.762 
 16  Larrybaz     0.770 
 17  Yielddude    0.771 
 18  Researcher   0.780 
 19  2Morrow      0.798 
 20  Jsim         0.814  Dow Leader 
 21  Ecoblot      0.820 
 22  Arnie        0.827  Gold Leader (tie) 
 23  Rawnoc       0.843 
 24  Tbone        0.845 
 25  GHMM         0.865 
 26  Just4Fun     0.873 
 27  NoWayOut     0.877 
 28  Lebanese     0.904 
 29  Death2Taxes  0.905 
 30  StkPeeker    0.926 
 31  PattyDady    0.990 
 32  SixtyThree   0.998 
 33  Crochunter   1.016 
 34  Avandalay    1.051 
 35  CWS9         1.168 
 36  DanLC        1.180  Gold Leader (tie) 
 37  WadeGarret   1.182 
 38  10Bagger     1.192 
 39  Bobwins      1.205 
 40  IDD582       1.237 
 41  Generic      1.247 
 42  JangALang    1.331 
 43  StevenRisk   1.399 
 44  Tr8derVic    1.436 
 45  BBOTC        1.498 
 46  Fin.Advisor  1.561 
 47  Rocketeer    1.708 
 48  CL001        1.761 
 49  Split        1.792 
 50  LittleJohn   1.896 
 51  DonsHub      6.781 
 

Weekly Leaders

 Week  #  Leader 
 Week  1  THREES      .068 
 Week  2  THREES      .375 
 Week  3  THREES      .130 
 Week  4  THREES      .224 
 Week  5  THREES      .250 
 

Len

[lentinman]

DOG STANDINGS WEEK 4:

Weekly leaders are at the bottom of this post.

     Cumulative ratings 
  1  THREES        0.224  DOW #4, OIL #5, GOLD #10:  LAST WEEK'S OVERALL RANK: #1 
  2  Nelson        0.445 
  3  Wyobuford     0.467  Oil Leader 
  4  A1derfulLife  0.491 
  5  MR.  MEDIAN   0.529 
  6  PostCog       0.567 
  7  MSGI          0.576 
  8  SSKillz       0.576 
  9  Ari           0.627 
 10  LatinBlood    0.630 
 11  MikeS         0.639 
 12  Knowledge     0.651 
 13  Lentinman     0.685 
 14  LTMatt        0.700 
 15  TMCal         0.714 
 16  2Morrow       0.739 
 17  Larrybaz      0.740 
 18  Researcher    0.744 
 19  Jsim          0.763  Dow Leader, Gold Leader 
 20  Yielddude     0.782 
 21  Arnie         0.789 
 22  Tbone         0.803 
 23  Just4Fun      0.813 
 24  NoWayOut      0.831 
 25  GHMM          0.833 
 26  Lebanese      0.843 
 27  Ecoblot       0.853 
 28  Rawnoc        0.863 
 29  StkPeeker     0.864 
 30  Death2Taxes   0.869 
 31  PattyDady     0.927 
 32  Crochunter    0.965 
 33  Avandalay     0.987 
 34  SixtyThree    1.025 
 35  CWS9          1.115 
 36  DanLC         1.137 
 37  Bobwins       1.137 
 38  10Bagger      1.145 
 39  WadeGarret    1.145 
 40  IDD582        1.191 
 41  Generic       1.259 
 42  JangALang     1.277 
 43  StevenRisk    1.326 
 44  Tr8derVic     1.364 
 45  BBOTC         1.439 
 46  Fin.Advisor   1.502 
 47  Rocketeer     1.642 
 48  CL001         1.677 
 49  Split         1.711 
 50  LittleJohn    1.916 
 51  DonsHub       6.613 
 

Weekly Leaders

 Week  #  Leader 
 Week  1  THREES      .068 
 Week  2  THREES      .375 
 Week  3  THREES      .130 
 Week  4  THREES      .224 
 

Len

[lentinman]

DOG STANDINGS WEEK 3:

Weekly leaders are at the bottom of this post.

     Cumulative ratings 
  1  THREES      0.130  DOW #9, OIL #1, GOLD #4:  LAST WEEK'S OVERALL RANK: #1 
  2  Nelson      0.311 
  3  A1drfulLife 0.312 
  4  MSGI        0.366 
  5  MR.  MEDIAN 0.453 
  6  SSKillz     0.477  Dow leader 
  7  Wyobuford   0.502 
  8  PostCog     0.506 
  9  Ari         0.538 
 10  Knowledge   0.540 
 11  LTMatt      0.604 
 12  TMCal       0.604 
 13  MikeS       0.604 
 14  Researcher  0.608 
 15  Jsim        0.631 
 16  Arnie       0.644  Gold leader (tie) 
 17  2Morrow     0.663 
 18  LatinBlood  0.695 
 19  Larrybaz    0.710 
 20  NoWayOut    0.711 
 21  Tbone       0.712 
 22  GHMM        0.734 
 23  Death2Taxes 0.736 
 24  Just4Fun    0.747 
 25  Lebanese    0.768 
 26  StkPeeker   0.790 
 27  Lentinman   0.798 
 28  Crochunter  0.824 
 29  PattyDady   0.845 
 30  Yielddude   0.892 
 31  Ecoblot     0.895 
 32  Avandalay   0.900 
 33  10Bagger    0.958 
 34  Rawnoc      0.969 
 35  CWS9        0.970 
 36  DanLC       0.980  Gold leader (tie) 
 37  IDD582      1.019 
 38  SixtyThree  1.032 
 39  WadeGarret  1.035 
 40  Bobwins     1.043 
 41  JangALang   1.147 
 42  StevenRisk  1.205 
 43  Tr8derVic   1.269 
 44  BBOTC       1.278 
 45  Generic     1.342 
 46  Fin.Advisor 1.354 
 47  Rocketeer   1.455 
 48  CL001       1.509 
 49  Split       1.573 
 50  LittleJohn  1.958 
 51  DonsHub     6.161 
 

Weekly Leaders

 Week  #  Leader 
 Week  1  THREES      .068 
 Week  2  THREES      .375 
 Week  3  THREES      .130 
 

Len

[lentinman]

IBOX UPDATED:

The Ibox is updated with each person's DOG predictions. Please make sure there are no mistakes because these are the numbers I have programmed in.

Len

[lentinman]

DOG STANDINGS WEEK 2:

Weekly leaders are at the bottom of this post.

     Cumulative ratings 
  1  THREES        0.375  DOW #7, OIL #9, GOLD #3:  LAST WEEK'S OVERALL RANK: #1 
  2  Wyobuford     0.560 
  3  A1derfulLife  0.616 
  4  Ecoblot       0.655  OIL Leader (Tie) 
  5  Rawnoc        0.663  OIL Leader (Tie) 
  6  Nelson        0.679 
  7  Lentinman     0.733 
  8  MSGI          0.750  GOLD Leader  
  9  MikeS         0.768 
 10  Yielddude     0.770  OIL Leader (Tie) 
 11  Knowledge     0.800 
 12  SixtyThree    0.856 
 13  Larrybaz      0.885 
 14  MR.  MEDIAN   0.897 
 15  Researcher    0.920 
 16  PostCog       0.927 
 17  SSKillz       0.934 
 18  LatinBlood    0.938 
 19  GHMM          0.986 
 20  Ari           1.014 
 21  Death2Taxes   1.042 
 22  TMCal         1.075 
 23  LTMatt        1.099 
 24  Arnie         1.112 
 25  Generic       1.116 
 26  2Morrow       1.121 
 27  Tbone         1.139 
 28  Jsim          1.167  DOW Leader  
 29  NoWayOut      1.200 
 30  Just4Fun      1.206 
 31  Lebanese      1.244 
 32  StkPeeker     1.261 
 33  PattyDady     1.320 
 34  WadeGarret    1.321 
 35  Crochunter    1.372 
 36  Avandalay     1.391 
 37  10Bagger      1.396 
 38  IDD582        1.434 
 39  DanLC         1.491 
 40  CWS9          1.535 
 41  Bobwins       1.579 
 42  JangALang     1.711 
 43  LittleJohn    1.796 
 44  StevenRisk    1.802 
 45  Tr8derVic     1.843 
 46  BBOTC         1.904 
 47  Fin.Advisor   1.967 
 48  Rocketeer     2.151 
 49  CL001         2.219 
 50  Split         2.234 
 51  DonsHub       7.820

Weekly Leaders

 Week  #  Leader 
 Week  1  THREES      .068 
 Week  2  THREES      .375 
 

Len

[lentinman]

Split:

That's fantastic technology! I have to give StockCharts a lot of credit. It's still hard to figure out the relationship - as you stated, but if it can be done, that's the way to do it.

Good job.

Len

[split710]

lentinman,

The correlation, if any, may remain one of the unknowns in the universe!!

I have added the usd index to this chart.

Also you will see (hopefully) that the (days) is set at 200, instead of dragging the days time line out, put your cursor on the 200 days and while holding down on either mouse button you can drag the days time frame back and forth from Feb of 99 to Dec 08.

http://stockcharts.com/charts/performance/perf.html?$indu,$wtic,$gold,$usd

[lentinman]

Split:

That's interesting. I drug the time line over to the beginning of 2006 (758 days) and I can't make heads or tails out of the relationships. So many extenuating variables - not the least of which is the dollar.

Len

[split710]

Interactive performance chart of the DOG

http://stockcharts.com/charts/performance/perf.html?$INDU,$WTIC,$GOLD

[lentinman]

FA:

CNBC uses the WTI Cushing Spot for Oil and the 24-hour Spot (bid) for Gold. I see nothing wrong with using either.

Irregardless ( yes, it IS a word! http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?Message_id=32578212 ), it doesn't really matter until December 31st - and even then, only if it were a super close race.

Len

[FinancialAdvisor]

What do you use on Google, do you use kitco? Reason I ask is because there are many different ways to determine the price, in fact, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't CNBC quote the leading futures contract price?

[lentinman]

FA:

Most of the time I just check CNBC after the close on Fridays. However, if I miss that, I just go to google.

Len

[FinancialAdvisor]

Hi Len,

What ticker do you use to track the price of gold and oil?

Thanks, #msg-34430119

[Donshub2]

The DOW/economy could crash while oil and gold rocket upwards because of a falling dollar. I guess it just depends on how the world's economy will be doing. I thought that was strange also that LJ was right on about oil and the DOW but almost last in gold. I just think gold has a high demand because many people assume the dollar will crash. In my opinion, oil will go up a lot in this scenario.

[littlejohn]

Len, gold could be the riskiest now of the 3 choices...LJ

[littlejohn]

Len, gold can appear a safe haven as investors store sales proceeds from falling asset classes and back and forth between different currencies that are retreating along with other asset classes...

The currencies retreat like dancers against each other as countries keep viaing for a better currency rate of exchange against other currencies to help their own trade prospects...The US didn't support a falling dollar because that is not the best thing for large corporate global competitiveness...

So, just maybe, gold is more connected to currency exchanges than asset valuations...

Or, it is only a laggard in the drop scheme...

If you will review the long term gold charts you will notice $30 to $40 gold per ounce until Opec took control of global oil pricing in the early 70s...Gold bugs read the following rises as a reaction to the US moving off the gold standard...

Is Opec in control of falling oil prices now?...Don't appear to be...

If Opec countries have stored vast amounts of wealth in gold and need more money than oil sales produce to balance budgets what happens?...

Only a thesis of a calamity...Timing is only a guessing game...LJ

[lentinman]

What is the relationship between D & O & G?

It's one thing to do what LJ did and get the overall closest based on a percentage differential, but what intrigues me is the relationships between these three "things" - DOW, OIL and GOLD.

LJ was #1 in the DOW and OIL, but 50th in GOLD. He correctly assumed that the DOW and OIL would crash, but he incorrectly assumed GOLD would crash at the same time. And, that's what is interesting to me. Even if God came down and told you that (for example) the DOW would be 5,000, what does that tell you about OIL or GOLD? Let's say God said "You can pick whichever one of the three you want and I will tell you what it will be." And, so you do. Which would you pick and does that give you a leg up on the other two?

I confess. JSim and I talked about it at some length and we can't really determine what one would do (necessarily) if another did X. I suppose the most likely correlation would be if the DOW was down a ton, so would OIL, but it could be that business and economy are getting killed BECAUSE OIL is high. It all depends on the timing because eventually OIL would follow the economy unless there were a war in the middle east. Of course, if the DOW crashed, one might assume GOLD would also crash as LJ did. But, if the DOW crashed because the financial system collapsed, then GOLD could skyrocket. Thus, the whole "relationship" issue is interesting and discovering the relationship between the three is almost as impressive as the percentage differential.

Here are the top-5 people who had the lowest combined rankings. In the case of LJ, he had 52 (1+1+50). But, that doesn't imply that he understands the relationships as well as someone else might. I'm going to call Death2Taxes the winner of the Mr. Relationship award for 2008.

               DOW OIL GOLD TOTAL 
 1. Death2Taxes  5   6   15  = 26 
 2. CWS9         7   3   25  = 35 
 3. Just4Fun    40   4    2  = 46 
 4. Ecoblot     16  21   10  = 47 
 5. Grp316      42   9    1  = 52 
 5. LittleJohn   1   1   50  = 52

Here are the top-5 people who had the best "worst". I'm going to call this person the Mrs. Relationship winner. Ok, in this case Death is both Mr. and Mrs., but it could easily be two different people. Besides, Death has always had a side of him that we would rather not talk about!

               DOW OIL GOLD WORST 
 1. Death2Taxes  5   6   15   15 
 2. Ecoblot     16  21   10   21  
 3. A1derfulife 14  22   21   22   
 4. CWS9         7   3   25   25 
 5. JangALang   27  11   26   27

Len

[littlejohn]

2008, it looked like Chrysler was basically bk when they started discounting trucks to 40% to 50% off the sticker price in early fall...

Big Market averages looked to have corrected for some steep excesses created over years by liquidity excesses in the real estate sector within several days when the results of no liquidity left emerged...

Unemployment jumped much faster with almost panic company responses to overplanning as liquidity growth was questioned...

2008 saw little meaningful, purpose-driven relief for a reeling real estate sector...

Commodity prices could not hold up to the Big 3 whammy of US real estate market in recession, China Olympic build out complete, and Loss of liquidity from real estate borrowing starting to impact overall economy much harder...

Perfect Storm in 2008 for most asset values as an Election Year Spending and Promise Spree trumped out long term planning...LJ

[lentinman]

FINAL DOG STANDINGS (repost):

I forgot to include MR. MEDIAN.

Weekly leaders are at the bottom of this post.

     Cumulative ratings 
  1  Littlejohn   0.730  DOW #1, OIL #1, GOLD #50: LAST WEEK'S OVERALL RANK: #1 
  2  CWS9         1.335 
  3  DeathToTaxes 1.381 
  4  Just4Fun     1.541 
  5  Tbone        1.725 
  6  Grp316       1.775  GOLD Leader 
  7  Gold         1.784 
  8  Jang-A-Lang  1.792 
  9  Rawnoc       1.794 
 10  TMCal        1.807 
 11  Dzwick       1.825 
 12  Tr8derVic    1.901 
 13  Larrybaz     1.919 
 14  Palacian     1.953 
 15  Lentinman    1.977 
 16  ZenLunatic   2.010 
 17  Ecoblot      2.068 
 18  JSim         2.083 
 19  A1derfullife 2.090 
 20  SSKillz      2.188 
 21  Knowledge    2.240 
 22  Crochunter   2.252 
 23  WadeGarrett  2.276 
 24  Linuspop     2.294 
     MR. MEDIAN   2.294 
 25  Lbas         2.303 
 26  LTMatt       2.363 
 27  StockPeeker  2.413 
 28  StevenRisk   2.447 
 29  Yielddude    2.457 
 30  Shmolton     2.485 
 31  Nelson       2.510 
 32  DanLC        2.516 
 33  Berliet      2.546 
 34  Niles        2.681 
 35  Split        2.754 
 36  Researcher   2.775 
 37  MSGI         2.861 
 38  SWB          2.908 
 39  Mike056      2.979 
 40  Snakeman     3.017 
 41  Footwedge    3.029 
 42  Arnie        3.084 
 43  Bobwins      3.117 
 44  Cl001        3.327 
 45  Kipp         3.472 
 46  Obi-Kenobi   3.872 
 47  RogueDolphin 3.880 
 48  Richagain    3.929 
 49  Ari          3.966 
 50  2Morrow      4.104 
 51  Cuppy        4.169

Weekly Leaders

 Week  #  Leader 
 Week  1  Nelson      .027 
 Week  2  LTMatt      .066 
 Week  3  Split       .148 
 Week  4  SWB         .129 
 Week  5  SWB         .081 
 Week  6  LTMatt      .094 
 Week  7  Ecoblot     .109 
 Week  8  LTMatt      .091 
 Week  9  Knowledge   .098 
 Week 10  Knowledge   .181 
 Week 11  Knowledge   .130 
 Week 12  Knowledge   .112 
 Week 13  TMCal       .169 
 Week 14  Larrybaz    .197 
 Week 15  TMCal       .054 
 Week 16  TMCal       .074 
 Week 17  DEATH2TAXES .226 
 Week 18  CWS9        .415 
 Week 19  CWS9        .377 
 Week 20  CWS9        .606 
 Week 21  CWS9        .427 
 Week 22  CWS9        .602 
 Week 23  CWS9        .765 
 Week 24  LJ          .681 
 Week 25  CWS9        .790 
 Week 26  LJ          .694 
 Week 27  LJ          .709 
 Week 28  LJ          .963 
 Week 29  LJ          .730

Len

[lentinman]

FINAL GOLD STANDINGS

  1  Grp316        875  0.006 
  2  Just4Fun      888  0.008 
  3  ZenLunatic    888  0.008 
  4  Linuspop      868  0.014 
  5  Nelson        868  0.014 
  6  TMCal         895  0.016 
  7  LTMatt        895  0.016 
  8  Dzwick        900  0.022 
  9  Palacian      900  0.022 
 10  Ecoblot       900  0.022 
 11  DanLC         900  0.022 
 12  Ari           900  0.022 
 13  Researcher    855  0.029 
 14  Knowledge     850  0.035 
 15  DeathToTaxes  933  0.060 
 16  Split         826  0.062 
 17  Crochunter    825  0.063 
 18  StevenRisk    820  0.069 
 19  Arnie         942  0.070 
 20  JSim          947  0.075 
 21  A1derfullife  950  0.079 
 22  Larrybaz      800  0.092 
 23  SSKillz       975  0.107 
 24  Bobwins       988  0.122 
 25  CWS9          765  0.131 
 26  Jang-A-Lang  1000  0.136 
 27  Berliet      1000  0.136 
 28  SWB          1000  0.136 
 29  Snakeman     1005  0.141 
 30  Rawnoc        740  0.160 
 31  Richagain    1025  0.164 
 32  MSGI         1050  0.192 
 33  Footwedge    1055  0.198 
 34  2Morrow      1060  0.204 
 35  Niles        1075  0.221 
 36  Lentinman    1077  0.223 
 37  Mike056      1085  0.232 
 38  Lbas         1100  0.249 
 39  StockPeeker  1111  0.262 
 40  RogueDolphin 1119  0.271 
 41  Obi-Kenobi   1122  0.274 
 42  Gold         1150  0.306 
 43  Tbone        1200  0.363 
 44  Cl001        1234  0.401 
 45  Shmolton     1238  0.406 
 46  WadeGarrett  1250  0.419 
 47  Yielddude    1250  0.419 
 48  Tr8derVic    1350  0.533 
 49  Cuppy        1375  0.561 
 50  Littlejohn    344  0.609 
 51  Kipp         1450  0.647

Len

[lentinman]

FINAL OIL STANDINGS

  1  Littlejohn     44     0.032 
  2  Rawnoc         85     0.994 
  3  CWS9           88     1.064 
  4  Just4Fun       88     1.064 
  5  Gold           90     1.111 
  6  DeathToTaxes   93.33  1.189 
  7  Tbone          94     1.205 
  8  Tr8derVic      95     1.228 
  9  Grp316         98     1.299 
 10  Dzwick         98     1.299 
 11  Jang-A-Lang   100     1.346 
 12  Larrybaz      100     1.346 
 13  Palacian      100     1.346 
 14  TMCal         105     1.463 
 15  Lentinman     107.7   1.526 
 16  ZenLunatic    108     1.533 
 17  WadeGarrett   110     1.580 
 18  Crochunter    113     1.651 
 19  JSim          114.2   1.680 
 20  Lbas          115     1.698 
 21  Ecoblot       120     1.815 
 22  A1derfullife  120     1.815 
 23  Knowledge     120     1.815 
 24  Berliet       120     1.815 
 25  Linuspop      121     1.838 
 26  StockPeeker   123     1.885 
 27  StevenRisk    123     1.885 
 28  Yielddude     125     1.932 
 29  SSKillz       125.5   1.944 
 30  DanLC         126     1.956 
 31  Shmolton      127     1.979 
 32  LTMatt        128     2.003 
 33  Nelson        132     2.096 
 34  Niles         135     2.167 
 35  Split         144.5   2.390 
 36  Researcher    145     2.401 
 37  Kipp          145     2.401 
 38  Mike056       147     2.448 
 39  MSGI          149     2.495 
 40  Arnie         149     2.495 
 41  SWB           150     2.519 
 42  Footwedge     151     2.542 
 43  Snakeman      152     2.566 
 44  Cl001         156     2.659 
 45  Bobwins       157     2.683 
 46  Cuppy         185     3.340 
 47  Obi-Kenobi    188     3.410 
 48  RogueDolphin  191     3.480 
 49  Richagain     195     3.574 
 50  Ari           198     3.645 
 51  2Morrow       202     3.738

Len

[lentinman]

FINAL DOW STANDINGS

  1  Littlejohn     8004  0.088 
  2  Shmolton       9653  0.100 
  3  Yielddude      9700  0.105 
  4  RogueDolphin   9911  0.129 
  5  DeathToTaxes   9933  0.132 
  6  SSKillz        9980  0.137 
  7  CWS9          10000  0.139 
  8  Tr8derVic     10000  0.139 
  9  Tbone          7400  0.157 
 10  2Morrow       10200  0.162 
 11  MSGI          10300  0.174 
 12  Obi-Kenobi    10427  0.188 
 13  Richagain     10455  0.191 
 14  A1derfullife  10500  0.196 
 15  Lentinman     10770  0.227 
 16  Ecoblot       10800  0.231 
 17  SWB           11000  0.253 
 18  StockPeeker   11111  0.266 
 19  Cl001         11111  0.266 
 20  Cuppy          6422  0.268 
 21  WadeGarrett   11200  0.276 
 22  Footwedge     11310  0.289 
 23  Niles         11350  0.293 
 24  Mike056       11400  0.299 
 25  Ari           11400  0.299 
 26  Split         11428  0.302 
 27  Jang-A-Lang   11500  0.310 
 28  Snakeman      11500  0.310 
 29  Bobwins       11514  0.312 
 30  TMCal         11650  0.327 
 31  JSim          11657  0.328 
 32  LTMatt        11800  0.345 
 33  Researcher    11800  0.345 
 34  Lbas          11900  0.356 
 35  Gold          12000  0.367 
 36  Knowledge     12200  0.390 
 37  Nelson        12280  0.399 
 38  Kipp          12500  0.424 
 39  Linuspop      12650  0.441 
 40  Just4Fun      12888  0.468 
 41  ZenLunatic    12888  0.468 
 42  Grp316        12900  0.470 
 43  Larrybaz      13000  0.481 
 44  StevenRisk    13100  0.493 
 45  Dzwick        13200  0.504 
 46  Arnie         13333  0.519 
 47  Crochunter    13500  0.538 
 48  DanLC         13500  0.538 
 49  Palacian      13909  0.585 
 50  Berliet       14000  0.595 
 51  Rawnoc        14400  0.641

Len

[JustForFun7]

My predictions

Dow - 9000
Oil - 60
Gold - 1200

JFF7

[split710]

dow..10,685
oil..91.50
gold..1,145

[lentinman]

My predictions:

DOW - 6666
OIL - 36.66
GOLD - 1266

Len

[lentinman]

FINAL RESULTS FOR 2008:

I will have four posts after midnight.

1) The final DOW standings
2) The final OIL standings
3) The final GOLD standings
4) The final DOG standings

I will also post (asap) the list of contestants for 2009 and their picks. Make sure you check them for accuracy.

I will add one more hypothetical person to the list. I'm going to call him Mr. Median. Median is, of course, a type of "average". In this average case, it means the mid-point of the picks - half above and half below. I thought that was better than Mr. Mean because the Mean could easily be skewed by someone picking the DOW at 2,000 or 20,000 (for example). I will also go back and create a Mr. Median for 2008 and include him in the standings.

Len

[PostCog]

Revised: Dow 9100; Oil 56.00; Gold 1050.00

[Stock]

si. and dyslexic agnostic

[Rawnoc]

Those numbers are generic.

[Stock]

g 450
o 24
d 10999

[lentinman]

Cl:

I've been wondering when someone was going to apply the Gold = 10 x Oil and Dow = 10 x Gold formula.

Len

[cl001]

Dow 10000, Gold 1000, Oil 100

[avandalay05]

Len - Dog picks.

DOW 10,882
Oil 68
Gold 974

Good luck to all in 2009 HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

Art

[nelson1234]

DOG pick

DOW = 8950
Oil = 55
Gold = 880

[J Sim]

DOG of 2009:
Oil $72.40
Gold $941
Dow 8242

[stock_peeker]

DOG picks for '09:
Oil: 63
Gold: 1111
Dow: 9630

[Lebaneseproud]

Dow 9100
Oil 63.00
Gold 1150

[PostCog]

Dow 9100; Oil 46.00; Gold 1050.00

[Rawnoc]

Oh, my bad.

[littlejohn]

Only be about 29 points down per trading day or about a third of a percent down for each trading day from around 8,600...

You make it seem like a lot for a whole year...LJ

[Knowledge is King]

You're right!


I use that calculator in bear markets...does wonders for my P/L.

[Rawnoc]

You have an interesting calculator. Mine says Dow 1150 is an 87% drop from here.

[Knowledge is King]

Up 30% sure sounds bullish to me!

[Rawnoc]

Dow 1150 is bullish? I'd hate to see your bearish prediction.

[DanLC]

DOW 1150
OIL 72
GOLD 900

So shoot me, I am always a long term bull. Dan

[researcher59]

DOW 9559
OIL 59
GOLD 759

[pattydady0]

DOW 11,000
OIL 66
Gold 950

[ecoblot]

Dow 7300
oil 35
Gold 400

[ari5000]

Dow: 8,700

Gold: $950

Oil: $65

[wadegarret]

My guesses

Dow- 12500

Oil- $55

Gold- $625

Wade