Untrustworthy Trusted Computing Firms (fka NOTRUST)

[greg s]

We report .... You decide:

My last post on this site
By: snackman in WAVX | Recommend this post (0)
Fri, 14 Jul 06 8:27 PM
Wave Systems Msg. 01585 of 01589

I have never deleted a post because of the content. If the content contained vulgarity or if the content was an attack or if the content had nothing to do with Wave, it was deleted.

You guys are so obsessed with me it's really funny. LOL.

This post should create at least 36 more posts talking about me. WOW. You guys have nothing else to talk about except me.

Don't you have wives or girl friends, or husbands or boy friends? Don't you talk to them? Oh ya you do. You talk to them about Snackman. LOL. You dream about me. LOL. You wake up in the morning thinking: how can I get under Snackkman's skin today? LOL.

You guys should really look at yourselves in the mirror. You are wasting your time, talking and thinking about me. I am the WINNER. LOL. You guys are the lossers. LOL.

Let's take a survey: Home many posts will have Snackman's name in them over the week-end? Better, yet: How many posts WON"T have Snackman's name in the post? LOL

You are sll children.

Don't stop now. I want to see my name in print here. LOL Please don't stop. It's how I get off. Talk about me, please. LOL.

I am saying goodbye from this site forever.

This site had 4 posts in 9 months prior to us coming here. Now you will have yahoo posters galore here. And almost every post will have my name in it. LOL FANTASTIC.

This evening should be fun. I can't wait to see my name in print again. Please don't stop

[greg s]

So, Nomad, go get your tickets to Vegas and pack your bag.

You know, the whole SHAMOLA!

[bell-1]

So what?

[greg s]

Snackie's back (well, sort of) and ban count up to eight:

Ban List for Wave Systems DD

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Alias Ban Date Banned By
twinkiedefense 7/13/2006 1:40:57 AM 23709
gowave1 7/11/2006 8:51:51 PM 23709
cmf 7/11/2006 6:18:34 PM 23709
TREND1 7/11/2006 6:18:29 PM 23709
SPIN 7/11/2006 6:18:20 PM 23709
DAME23 6/25/2006 1:58:58 PM 2744
cpa 6/20/2006 2:29:32 PM 2744
greg s 5/13/2006 2:56:36 PM 2744

[bell-1]

So what?

[greg s]

Ban list up to seven before the reverse migration to A. Bob's. Snackie and Fullmoon still listed as moderators. Board is still a "premium" board. Does Matthew care after being "backdoored" so badly by Snackie? If he had an ounce of decency, he would revert the board to public, remove all bans, remove the 'Voids as mods, and free Hamhock Howie from jail (after all, Howie has done nothing but warn Matt about what would happen. Come to think of it, so have I).

Ban List for Wave Systems DD

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Alias Ban Date Banned By
gowave1 7/11/2006 8:51:51 PM 23709
cmf 7/11/2006 6:18:34 PM 23709
TREND1 7/11/2006 6:18:29 PM 23709
SPIN 7/11/2006 6:18:20 PM 23709
DAME23 6/25/2006 1:58:58 PM 2744
cpa 6/20/2006 2:29:32 PM 2744
greg s 5/13/2006 2:56:36 PM 2744

[DAME23]

I see snackman is once again moderator @ wavx IHUB
& then he goes & stabs matt in the back once again.
The following is what he posted over on Atomic bobs this fine evening



I had a whole letter ready to post here about making a choice between here and Ihub. Letting you the poster, make the choice.

Last night and this morning I had 90% favorable messages for IHUB. But in reading the board this afternoon (just got home) it seems the sentiment is to stay here. I have no problem with that and I will also remain.

Tim, why would I delete your post? I have deleted 2-3 posts I believe, and two were duplicates and one was from Inflecguy. We should never have to delete any posts here as there will be no yahoos here.

My main argument was the hate that was coming out of the other board. If you all can live with it, fine, we will stay here.

I wanted to go with the majority and the majority voiced IHUB but apparently that has changed.

BYW, is we stay here I think it's only fair that everyone donate some money to Bob for running this board. I donated money to him the second day I was here.

Everyone should donate something, it only right. Nothing is free in this World.


Matt unless i am mistaken, the reason snackman & the rest of the cult left for Atomic Bobs was because they would each have to make a donation in order to have a completely snackman censored board

[cmf]

I'm banned!!! I'm banned!!

Praise the Lord, I'm banned!!!

So I went and checked and I'm also banned from snackies palace on AB too. I never even posted there - LOL!!

Was it something I said??

[greg s]

Whoops! Not so fast!

To all, please read
By: snackman in WAVX DD | Recommend this post (0)
Tue, 11 Jul 06 7:03 PM

Msg. 01457 of 01457

I had a whole letter ready to post here about making a choice between here and Ihub. Letting you the poster, make the choice.

Last night and this morning I had 90% favorable messages for IHUB. But in reading the board this afternoon (just got home) it seems the sentiment is to stay here. I have no problem with that and I will also remain.

Tim, why would I delete your post? I have deleted 2-3 posts I believe, and two were duplicates and one was from Inflecguy. We should never have to delete any posts here as there will be no yahoos here.

My main argument was the hate that was coming out of the other board. If you all can live with it, fine, we will stay here.

I wanted to go with the majority and the majority voiced IHUB but apparently that has changed.

BYW, is we stay here I think it's only fair that everyone donate some money to Bob for running this board. I donated money to him the second day I was here.

Everyone should donate something, it only right. Nothing is free in this World.

http://www.atomicbobs.com/index.php?mode=read&id=100855

[greg s]

WOW !!! Six bans and growing!

Ban List for Wave Systems DD

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Alias Ban Date Banned By
cmf 7/11/2006 6:18:34 PM 23709
TREND1 7/11/2006 6:18:29 PM 23709
SPIN 7/11/2006 6:18:20 PM 23709
DAME23 6/25/2006 1:58:58 PM 2744
cpa 6/20/2006 2:29:32 PM 2744
greg s 5/13/2006 2:56:36 PM 2744

[greg s]

Take care, Mr. Galt.

[john_galt]

greg s,

Thanks for clearing things up. I did a google search on Atomic Bob and found the web site. I checked some posts on the two wave boards...one board is Snackie's and the other is maintained by Jose Cuervo. Some funny stuff over the past few weeks. Now I know where the traffic went.

I have a premium subscription that's expiring soon so I probably won't be posting on Snackie's board.

I think I'll stay here in Galt's Gulch. It has a good feel to it. All we need are Hank, Francisco, Ragnar, Dagny, etc.

Take it easy.

[greg s]

john_galt,

Snackie cut a deal with iHub Admin Matt. The "old" WAVX board is now a premium (have to be a paid subscriber) "WAVX DD" board. Snackie can censor and ban at will there. iHub Admin Matt started another free "WAVX" board:

#board-6204

and he moderates it for now.

I think Snackie has "disillusioned" some of the faithful with all the moves over the last 2 weeks.

Snackie seems a bit "confused" himself.

The shaftee of the whole sordid mess is Atomic Bob, who must feel pretty used at this point.

Makes one want to say "Who is John Galt", eh.

You are always welcome to post here. There is no moderation, for good reason. Think of it as the Galt's Gulch of iHub.

[john_galt]

Can someone tell me what's going on?

When Snackie took his minions to some other board, I lost sight of them. I checked the iHub board periodically, but it didn't have a lot of action. Today I saw the news item regarding the lawsuit so I decided to check the iHub board and saw Snackie as moderator but no meaningful posts.

Is Snackie back? Did his minions follow? The Wave board is now premium? I feel like Han Solo after he comes out of the carbonite deep freeze in "Return of the Jedi."

jg

[TREND1]

dig
YES IHUB has free board for WAVX
see
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11976505

[dig space]

As WAVX no longer has a freebie board on iHub, I guess this is the closest thing.

Please tell me there hasn't been that much Priority One e-mails clogging up the net to enable all of this bob-and-weave WavxDD desert wandering.

[greg s]

Exodus
By: greg s in WAVX | Recommend this post (5)
Tue, 11 Jul 06 11:08 AM
Msg. 01122 of 01124

I notice Snackman and Vacationhouse are considering yet another mass exodus.

How cute!

I'm sure iHub Admin Matt will be very excited to have them back (if he can get a few paid subs out of the deal). He has kept the old place just as they left it, bans still in place. It's like Junior coming home from college to find his bedroom just as he left it.

Of course, Atomic Bob has been used like a dirty kleenex in the deal. He's doing his best to appease the 'Voids but I think it will be to no avail. Snackman wants a place where a discouraging word can be erased like words in the sand.

Keep in mind this board, should the exodus occur:

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=5831

I sure hate to see them use A. Bob this way.

greg.

http://www.atomicbobs.com/index.php?mode=read&id=100677

[cmf]

Dang I'm right alot of the time!!

"at this time snack man is trying to get every one to move back to a premium board on ihub.
He sent out a notice to all wave longs to vote on stay here or go."

[IAMSAM]

Wave Systems and NTT DATA Complete Agreement

http://www.smallcapcenter.com/story.asp?mysection=headlines&mypage=newsalerts.asp&ticker=WAV...

Wave Systems and NTT DATA Complete Agreement to Distribute EMBASSY(R) Technology and Services in Japan
via COMTEX

July 5, 2006

LEE, Mass. & TOKYO, Jul 05, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) --

Wave Systems Corp. (Nasdaq:WAVX - www.wave.com) announced today that it has executed a software reseller agreement with NTT DATA Corporation (TOKYO:9613.T) of Japan, a leading systems integrator. Pursuant to the agreement NTT DATA will be authorized to resell and provide support services for Wave's EMBASSY(R) Trust Suite technology and solutions for the trusted computing market in Japan, including financial services, government, health care and consumer market segments. Financial details of the agreement were not disclosed. The agreement does not provide for guaranteed minimum or maximum shipped quantities or royalties.

Wave's Embassy software is designed to support the next generation, security chip hardware called the Trusted Platform Module (TPM). The TPM standard was developed by an industry standards body called the Trusted Computing Group (TCG) www.trustedcomputinggroup.org. The computer industry has shipped tens of millions of PCs embedded with TPM chips, and Wave's Embassy technology is designed to be compatible with all commercially available TPMs. When used with a TPM chip, Wave's Embassy trusted computing solutions enable a number of features, including network policy management, data protection, password protection, strong authentication -- including machine, biometric and smart card authentication of a user's personal computer to a server -- and encrypted email.

"We are very pleased to solidify our relationship with Wave Systems through the execution of this software reseller agreement," said Noritaka Ogawa, Director, Mobile & IC Media Service Unit, Business Solutions Sector, NTT DATA. "We see a growing business opportunity to deliver quality secure solutions, with Trusted Computing, in Japan. Wave's products, along with NTT Data's Solutions, provide enterprise-wide complete security for the business customer. The combined capabilities from NTT Data and products from Wave Systems, provide the Japanese market standards based security that satisfies the requirements for both government and commercial customers."

Steven Sprague, president and CEO, Wave Systems, commented, "Japan represents a substantial market opportunity for Wave's trusted computing solutions, and NTT DATA, the leading IT services provider in Japan, is the ideal partner for Wave in this market. We are delighted to forge this alliance with NTT DATA and to help their customers address daily personal computer security challenges such as identity, data theft, phishing and insecure passwords. We are currently enhancing Japanese language functionality and support of our solutions to meet our partner's specifications, and we anticipate the rollout of our product offering through NTT DATA later this year."

More information on Wave's Embassy secure software is available at www.wave.com.

About NTT DATA Corporation

NTT DATA traces its roots back to 1967, to the establishment of the Data Communications Bureau within Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Public Corporation (present-day NTT). The Bureau sustained consistent growth based on system development, building, operation, and maintenance across a broad front, ranging from nation wide systems that formed the cornerstones of society to a multiplicity of corporate network systems. In 1988 it began a new chapter in its story when it became NTT DATA Corporation.

Today, NTT DATA has grown into a group comprising 100 subsidiaries and affiliates. It possesses comprehensive strengths and has the best track record of any system integrator in Japan. It harnesses these many strengths to engage in business that is in keeping with its two priority management policies: "Enhancing the Competitiveness of the System Integration Business" and "Creating New Businesses."

In an information network society, it is not enough simply to increase business efficiency and make daily life more convenient. NTT DATA is committed to using IT to shape the affluent society of the future, a place where information can be accessed at any time and in any place. For more information about NTT DATA, visit http://www.nttdata.co.jp/en/index.html.

About Wave Systems

Wave Systems solves the most critical security problems for enterprises and government with software solutions that are trustworthy, reliable, easy to use, and offer a speedy return on investment. Wave's trusted computing software solutions include strong authentication, data protection, advanced password management and enterprise-wide trust management services. For more information visit www.wave.com.

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Except for the statements of historical fact, the information presented herein constitutes forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors which may cause the actual results, performance or achievements of the company to be materially different from any future results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Such factors include general economic and business conditions, the ability to fund operations, the ability to forge partnerships required for deployment, changes in consumer and corporate buying habits, chip development and production, the rapid pace of change in the technology industry and other factors over which Wave Systems Corp. has little or no control. Wave Systems assumes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements.

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[IAMSAM]

Awesome, thanks greg. Happy 4th. /e

[greg s]

SAM,

You can do whatever you want on this board. It is inmoduherated. For good reason.

[IAMSAM]

Interesting board...

Is it acceptable here to discuss sports, politics, religion, science, philosophy and patriotism as long as the logic can be reverse engineered to fit into Trusted computing (read WAVX) in some way?

Regards -- SAM

PS: Florida has the HEAT! Freedom Isn't Free -- It's a Law! Praise God! Secure the boarders. Release the real you -- Support our troops with wavoid passion.

[TREND1]

Matt knew it was a scam years ago.
Matt is just trying to run a business.IMHO.

[greg s]

Nah. That Matt isn't the same as Admin Matt. Admin Matt may lack ethical standards, but he's not a congenital idiot.

[DAME23]

Matt is a wavoid, he has been brainwashed & is a member of the cult. He has even started posting so-called DD over there
125462-125463-125465 He believes barge is psychic &/or a genius

[greg s]

There is a large difference between comprehending what another posts and attributing a discussion thread to me in which I did not participate.

If you want to make a point, just make it.

[24601]

Okay. Thanks for lesson one: there's no difference between needing a secure manufacturing line and not needing one. I never would have gotten that one right.

[greg s]

I get the very strong impression ...

...That you are now just posting to see yourself post.

We'll resume class some other time, grasshopper.

[DAME23]

If eamonnshute has been out of this investment since janurary, why was he so upset over rs?

[24601]

Does that mean a secure manufacturing line is no big deal, or just no trouble, or really nothing at all?

Seriously, Greg. I admire your experience. But just because you've designed one, does that have to mean that there's no difference between needing one and not needing one?

I get the very strong impression that an observation you otherwise might accept as "fair enough" must, when uttered by a suspected WAVX-long, be condemned.

[greg s]

No kidding. I've helped design one in the past.

Keys are inserted post-assembly (where the bare die is connected and packaged) at the test function.

[24601]

I wasn't acting. I was asking.

The post you derided focused in most important part on the need for a secure manufacturing line.

[greg s]

re: secure manufacturing line

You act like you think the root key exists and the keys are programmed in the wafer fab. Is this what is hanging you up? If so, you should know you are wrong.

[24601]

Maybe you should go find somebody to trade ahead of.

[24601]

Even I know that's not so. There's no way that the requirement-or-not of a secure manufacturing line does not affect the question.

[TREND1]

24601
Maybe you should do what this guy has done
...............................................
Posted by: eamonnshute
In reply to: TREND1 who wrote msg# 125389 Date:6/29/2006 9:53:49 PM
Post #of 125457

eamonnshute has not been in this investment since early January.

I am very clear on the part Wave plays, and as soon as the financial threat is gone I will be back in with both feet.

..........................................................

[greg s]

It's a fact, that's all there is to it. A processor is a processor, your modifier of "main" not withstanding. The fab process is not design dependent. The device is designed to the design rules of a given process.

I don't have the time here to go further. You have too much to learn and I am time constrained.

[24601]

That answer is very surprising to me. If you care to elucidate, please do.

[greg s]

False. The processors I was referencing (dating back as far as the early 80's) were "main" processors, to use your term.

[TREND1]

24601
It may be possible to put a small processor on a USB stick
in about 5 years. One company is working on it.

[TREND1]

24601
I did not say it would happen now.
But in the future it could happen.
A processor is like a "black hole"(g)

PS: Isn't it nice to be able to discuss this with out
Snackass deleting every thing.

[24601]

Forget your newly chosen context. Let's stick with the context of the observation that you derided in the first place.

True or false: The manufacturing considerations that attend a proposal to include nonvolatile memory in a processor are larger in the case of a "main" processor.

[greg s]

re: Am I wrong to think of "main processor" in a different way than "processor"?

In the context of what I told you, yes you are wrong.


For the rest, please see #msg-11839679

[greg s]

Adding any kind of memory array (or increasing size) requires more of the design and layout teams. Validation takes longer. Yields can be affected. Test times extend.

Why do I feel I'm trying to explain brain surgery to a kindergardner?

[24601]

Am I wrong to think of "main processor" in a different way than "processor"?

And what is the difference between a manufacturing consideration's being a "big deal" and its being "trouble"?

[greg s]

Intel was placing masked ROM, later EPROM, even later Flash memories on 8, 16, and 32-bit processors as far back as the early 80's. I know. I managed quite a few of those product lines.

[24601]

So it's not a big deal; it's just trouble?

Unless these are terms of art, I'm not sure they're over anybody's head.

They seem merely subjective (as indicated by your comment on "value").

[greg s]

re: So tell me, please: Is it correct that putting non-volatile memory in a main processor would be a big deal?

No, it is not correct. Of course, the value added would have to be sufficient to go to the trouble. That value does not exist today.

[24601]

You're right: I am in way over my head. I know you have some technological depth. So tell me, please: Is it correct that putting non-volatile memory in a main processor would be a big deal?

[greg s]

RE: Snackman made parole

Yes, but Hamhock Howie is still jailed and you and the other 2 of the WAVX Three are still banned.

Fair and balanced, Matt Brown style!