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No....lets raise the standards of our schools and hire more teachers, not just for the the minorities but for all......
Gee, maybe you should talk to the people you elect in WV.
Are you really so dumb you don't know that the people in charge of education in West Virginia that you vote for are pushing for more homeschooling?
West Virginia’s public schools are likely to lose more than $21.6 million with students who have left the system to use the Hope Scholarship for private schools, homeschooling and more.
In 2022, West Virginia public school students’ math and reading scores dropped to historic lows.
https://westvirginiawatch.com/2023/12/13/public-schools-likely-to-lose-21m-after-thousands-of-students-left-for-hope-scholarship/
B402, Since you either couldn't, or wouldn't, give the board any context for the Milwaukee police officer video you posted, let me try.
The right's black crime obsession
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There are a few black people up to no good in this country and Fox News is on it! So is Drudge Report. Vigilantly on the lookout, 24 hours a day, for stories about black youths behaving badly.
This isn't a particularly new phenomenon, but it's intensified noticeably in the past year for at least two reasons. Conservatives, particularly white conservatives, feel a burning urgency to find a racial counterweight to the aftermath of Trayvon Martin's shooting (including President Obama's public comments about the incident), a logical response to the argument that things like background checks and an assault weapons ban are appropriate ways to reduce the likelihood of another Sandy Hook-style massacre, and anecdotal justifications for indiscriminate policing of dangerous neighborhoods.
But these are hopeless pursuits. The incidents they draw attention to fail by definition to underscore the things they believe. They all require projecting motives or details or both into tragic events, to create false dichotomies between shootings perpetrated by whites and blacks. They have the unhealthy effect of creating dueling tallies of white-on-black and black-on-white crime. And ironically they all tend to underscore the argument that more "stand your ground" laws and more racial profiling are off-point responses to these incidents.
The latest conservative cri de coeur is over the tragic shooting death of Chris Lane, a 22-year-old Australian attending East Central University in Oklahoma on a baseball scholarship. Two teen boys spotted Lane on a jog last week, trailed him in a car, and allegedly shot him fatally in the back (a third teen reportedly served as their driver). One of the suspects said the boys committed the murder out of boredom.
Word of the shooting spread quickly. And that's when the right clumsily revealed that its obsession with gun violence reflects an obsession with racial score settling rather than with averting further tragedies. The conservative media, including Fox News, repeated the claim that the Oklahoma suspects were all black. But this turned out to be a toxic mix of racial bias and wishful thinking. You almost wonder whether the people whose ulterior motives led them into error like this actually lamented the fact that one of the suspects happened to be white. It would be so much more convenient if that weren't the case.
But let's pretend for a minute that the suspects had all fit the stereotype the hosts at Fox and Friends wanted. Then the idea is that Chris Lane's death should somehow offset Trayvon Martin's, or that the people who sought to turn George Zimmerman's actions into a national referendum on "stand your ground" laws are somehow hypocritical for having little to say when the races of the culprits and innocent victims are reversed. For reactionary Obama foes like former Rep. Allen West, R-Fla., the obvious question is ..
"We were bored & decided to kill somebody." 3 black teens shoot white jogger.Who will POTUS identify w/this time? http://t.co/ovs9Xw23Ye
— Allen West (@AllenWest) August 20, 2013
.. , "Whom will POTUS identify w/this time?"
I'll give West, et al., this: If you ignore motive, circumstance, history and (likely) outcome, then liberals, particularly black liberals, sure seem craven. By that standard, though, Jean Valjean and John, King of England are moral equals -- just a couple of guys with similar names taking other people's property.
So let's review: George Zimmerman wouldn't have shot Trayvon Martin if he hadn't been profiling by race. And even if he had been, the shooting feasibly wouldn't have happened if he hadn't been legally allowed to carry a handgun and didn't think he was empowered by law to take matters into his own hands. The monstrous killing of Chris Lane has no such back story. The killers apparently had no motive whatsoever, were armed illegally, and certainly weren't trailing Lane because they believed, based on his race, that he might be a criminal. They are, however, likely to face serious prison time for their crimes. Zimmerman walked.
Put that all together, and it turns out these stories aren't counter-parallel at all. And more to the point, the events don't even anecdotally augur for policies the right supports. The kids in Oklahoma weren't "standing their ground," and a "stand your ground" law wouldn't have saved Chris Lane. Neither would a stop-and-frisk regime -- the killers were trailing him in a car. By contrast, a "stand your ground" environment and a stop-and-frisk mentality were instrumental in Trayvon Martin's death. Take either away, and there's a good chance he'd be alive today. Martin in fact personified the statistical folly of stop-and-frisk. If Zimmerman had yielded to real police, they would have, in absence of any suspicious behavior, stopped Martin, frisked him and found only the skittles and iced tea that made his death that much more tragically poignant.
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Simple, Canada has a minuscule % of black people, 4.3%. No racism there.
Down here? Facilities for hockey are not even widely available even in predominantly white communities. Economics, not racism.
Lastly, where're the biggest professional sports financial opportunities that match up with black interests and facility opportunities? They remain in HS football and BB, which remain the the most lucrative of professional sports.
Heavy recruitment rather than racism for those sports.
As someone who is not a college graduate, or a scholar of any kind, you're scarcely in a position to decide what are "worthless classes".
And I'll tell you again: education and job training are, or at least should be, two entirely different things.
Is a college education too expensive now? Yes. European public universities are free. Perhaps we should look there for a solution.
Ok, so if that is supposed to give some context to your "Yep", then, though can't see just now how it does, we can take it on board. It's a change of subject, but why not.
"Math is racist........So lets lower the standards? No....lets raise the standards of our schools and hire more teachers, not just for the the minorities but for all......
P - Good things can go too far and end up hurting instead of helping......They are many things this country needs to focus on, raising our standards is one of them.....
https://www.thebalancemoney.com/the-u-s-is-losing-its-competitive-advantage-3306225
The United States isn't investing as much in human capital as other developed countries and its comparative advantage is falling behind as a result. U.S. students' math skills have remained stagnant for decades. The country is falling behind many others which have greatly improved, such as Japan, Poland, and Ireland. U.S. test scores are below the global average."
Your beginning i have to guess because you did not give me a reference link. Guess you are saying some liberal do-gooders claims "Math is racist" because black kids tend not to be so good at it, so math standards in American schools have been dropped intentionally to help the black students. So white kids and America are suffering. Then, that though the intention of those misguided liberal do-gooders was well meant it ended up hurting instead of helping. Guess that has and does happen in some instances.
I don't know for sure, but guess there could be some truth - some truth - in that, no doubt mixed with some arguable error.
Your link is appreciated and i get the impression you are concerned with an alleged drop in educational standards in American schools. Fair enough, though there is research which suggests that test scores are not the be all and end all of educational worth. Should add and not forget some young people do poorly at school, even drop out early, yet are very successful in life. There is more to intelligence than is reflected in test scores. There is intrapersonal and interpersonal intelligence too. And artistic. And musical.
Anyway, back to the test scores that most parents have been convinced are most important to measuring their kids. A similar situation and debate has occurred in Australia for years.
Appreciate that you included a decent article. Here is another, though more narrowly focused on the black-white test score gap, still relevant:
The Black-White Test Score Gap: Why It Persists and What Can Be Done
Christopher Jencks and Meredith Phillips
March 1, 1998
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African Americans score lower than European Americans on vocabulary, reading, and math tests, as well as on tests that claim to measure scholastic aptitude and intelligence. The gap appears before children enter kindergarten and it persists into adulthood. It has narrowed since 1970, but the typical American black still scores below 75 percent of American whites on almost every standardized test. This statistic does not imply, of course, that all blacks score below all whites. There is a lot of overlap between the two groups. Nonetheless, the test score gap is large enough to have significant social and economic consequences.
Closing the black-white test score gap would probably do more to promote racial equality in the United States than any other strategy now under serious discussion. Judging by the currently available statistical evidence, eliminating the test score gap would sharply increase black college graduation rates, making them nearly equal to white rates. Such a change would also allow selective colleges to phase out racial preferences in admission, which have long been a flashpoint for racial conflict. Eliminating the test score gap would also reduce racial disparities in men’s earnings and would probably eliminate the racial disparities in women’s earnings.
Narrowing the test score gap would require continuous effort by both blacks and whites, and it would probably take more than one generation. But we think it can be done. This conviction rests on three facts. First, black-white differences in academic achievement have narrowed since 1970. The National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) data on 17-year-olds show that the reading gap narrowed more than two-fifths between 1971 and 1994. The math gap has also narrowed, though not as much. Five major national surveys of high school seniors conducted since 1965 show the same trend. So do surveys of younger students. The gap narrowed because black children’s scores rose, not because white children’s scores fell.
Second, even IQ scores clearly respond to changes in the environment. IQ scores, for example, have risen dramatically throughout the world since the 1930s. In America, 82 percent of those who took the Stanford-Binet test in 1978 scored above the 1932 average for individuals of the same age. The average black did about as well on the Stanford-Binet test in 1978 as the average white did in 1932.
Third, when black or mixed-race children are raised in white rather than black homes, their pre-adolescent test scores rise dramatically. These adoptees’ scores seem to fall in adolescence, but this could easily be because their social and cultural environment comes to resemble that of other black teenagers.
Explaining the Gap
Traditional explanations for the black-white test score gap have not stood up well to the test of time. During the 1960s, most liberals blamed the gap on some combination of black poverty, racial segregation, and inadequate funding of black schools. Since then, the number of affluent black families has grown dramatically, but their children’s test scores still lag far behind those of white children from equally affluent families. School desegregation may have played some role in reducing the black-white test score gap in the South, but school desegregation also seems to have costs for blacks, and when we compare initially similar students in today’s schools, those who attend desegregated schools learn only slightly more than those in segregated schools.
Recent evidence suggests that disparities in school resources do affect achievement, but resource disparities between black and white children have shrunk steadily over time. The average black child now attends school in a district that spends as much per pupil as the average white child’s district. Black children’s schools also have about the same number of teachers per pupil as white schools. Predominantly white schools seem to attract more skilled teachers than black schools, but while black students who attend predominantly white schools probably benefit from having better teachers, this advantage seems to be offset by the social costs of being in an overwhelmingly white environment. In any event, schools cannot be the main reason for the black-white test score gap, because it appears before children enter school and persists even when black and white children attend the same schools. If schools play an important role in perpetuating the gap, either desegregated schools must be treating black and white children very differently or else black and white children must react very differently to the same treatment.
The three most common “conservative” explanations for the black-white gap-genes, the culture of poverty, and single motherhood-are also hard to reconcile with the available evidence. There is no direct genetic evidence for or against the theory that the black-white gap is innate, because we have not yet identified the genes that affect skills like reading, math, and abstract reasoning. Studies of mixed-race children and black children adopted by white parents suggest, however, that racial differences in test performance are largely if not entirely environmental in origin.
Cultural differences associated with chronic poverty may account for some of the black-white test score gap, but they cannot be the main explanation, since the gap persists among affluent children. And while children raised by single mothers score lower on most standardized tests than children raised by married couples, this difference almost disappears once we take account of the fact that women who become single mothers come from less advantaged families, have lower test scores, and complete less schooling than women with husbands.
New Directions
We suspect that successful new explanations for the test score gap will differ from their predecessors in several ways.
First, instead of emphasizing the kinds of racial differences that economists and sociologists usually study (parents’ economic resources, parents’ position in the occupational hierarchy, parents’ exposure to formal education, and parents’ living arrangements), successful theories will take more account of the factors that psychologists have traditionally emphasized (the way family members interact with one another and with the outside world, for example). A good explanation of why white five-year-olds have bigger vocabularies than black five-year-olds is likely to focus on how much the parents talk to their children, how they deal with their children’s questions, and how they react when their children either learn or fail to learn something, not on how much money the parents have.
Second, instead of looking mainly for resource differences between predominantly black and predominantly white schools, successful theories will probably have to look more carefully at the way black and white children respond to the same classroom experiences, such as being in a smaller classroom, having a more competent teacher, having a teacher of their own race, or having a teacher with high expectations for those who perform below the norm for their age group.
Successful theories will therefore have to pay more attention to psychological and cultural influences, which are much harder to measure than income, education, and living arrangements. Collecting accurate data on black and white parents’ habits, values, behavior, and ideas is not easy, and it would take time. It might well require an investment of time and effort comparable to the effort that went into developing cognitive tests during the first half of the 20th century. But without such work, we are in constant danger of seeing black-white differences as an inevitable byproduct of people’s genes or of “cultural” factors that nobody can change.
Policy Implications
Our argument that reducing the black-white test score gap would do more to move America toward racial equality than any politically plausible alternative rests on two problematic premises: that policies aimed at reducing the test score gap are in fact politically feasible and that such policies can in fact reduce the gap.
Public support for almost any policy depends partly on whether the beneficiaries are perceived as deserving or undeserving. One obvious advantage of programs directed at children is that hardly anyone blames first graders’ ignorance on their lack of motivation. First graders of every race seem eager to please. Both black and white adults often think that older black children lack academic motivation, but most adults still blame this on the children s parents or schools, not on the children themselves. That was why Lyndon Johnson emphasized helping children in his original war on poverty.
Policies that reduce the black-white gap will not, of course, be politically popular if they improve black children’s test scores at white children’s expense. Both school desegregation and eliminating academically selective classes at desegregated schools have aroused strong white resistance because of the perceived cost to white children. But these policies would not do blacks much good even if whites were willing to adopt them. The most promising school-related strategies for reducing the black-white test score gap seem to involve changes like reducing class size, setting minimum standards of academic competency for teachers, and raising teachers’ expectations for low-performing students. All these changes would benefit both blacks and whites, but all appear to be especially beneficial for blacks.
An experiment carried out by the state of Tennessee during 1985-89 found, for example, that cutting class size in the early grades raised both black and white children’s test scores and that these gains were sustained even after children moved on to larger classes. The experiment also found that gains were much larger for blacks than for whites. Historical evidence also seems to support the hypothesis that the black-white test score gap falls when class size falls. When low birth rates reduced school enrollment in the 1970s, the teacher-pupil ratio rose and classes shrank. Independent analyses by Ronald Ferguson and David Grissmer suggest that this change in class size was followed by a marked decline in the black-white test score gap.
Although measuring teachers’ competence is harder than counting the number of children in a classroom, teachers’ test scores show a stronger association with how much students learn than any other widely used measure. Teacher competency exams are thus likely to boost children’s performance. Since the teachers who fail such tests are concentrated in black schools, such exams would probably prove especially beneficial to black students, although this benefit may be partially offset by the fact that the teachers who fail such tests are also disproportionately black.
Ferguson’s review of the literature on teachers’ expectations concludes that teachers do have lower expectations for blacks than for whites, but that this is largely because blacks enter school with weaker cognitive skills than whites and learn a bit less after entering. But Ferguson also finds some evidence that low teacher expectations have a more negative effect on black children than on their white classmates.
Research also suggests that black-white differences in parenting practices contribute to the test score gap. Improving parenting skills may therefore be as important as improving schools. The puzzle is how to proceed. Like teachers, parents are usually suspicious of unsolicited advice about how to deal with their children. But once parents become convinced that a particular practice really helps their children, many adopt it. As a practical political matter, whites cannot tell black parents to change their parenting practices without provoking charges of ethnocentrism, racism, and much else. But blacks are hardly the only parents who need help. We should be promoting better parenting practices for all parents in every way we can, including television, which reaches both blacks and whites.
Finally, conservatives who want to improve academic achievement should stop emphasizing the relationship between heredity and achievement and play up the importance of another conservative virtue—namely, hard work. Americans seem to be unusually likely to attribute academic failure to low ability rather than inadequate effort. When Harold Stevenson and James Stigler asked American, Japanese, and Taiwanese parents and teachers why some children did better than others in school, the Americans were more likely to emphasize ability whereas the Japanese and Taiwanese were more likely to emphasize effort. This difference does not seem to reflect a difference in fundamental beliefs about causation. Children all over the world recognize that both ability and effort affect achievement, and the same is probably true for their parents as well. But attributing failure to inadequate effort implies that if you work harder, you will learn more. Attributing it to ability serves as an excuse for doing nothing.
Americans’ emphasis on innate ability is likely to have especially negative consequences for African Americans, whose anxiety about racial stereotypes and intellectual competence can even depress their performance on standardized tests. Claude Steele and Joshua Aronson, for example, have shown that black Stanford undergraduates, unlike their white classmates, do measurably worse on tests when they are asked to record their race before taking the test or told that the test measures intellectual ability.
Time for Renewed Attention
Psychologists, sociologists, and educational researchers have devoted far less attention to the black-white test score gap over the past quarter-century than they should have. Cowed by the hostile reaction to Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s 1965 report on the status of the black family and to Arthur Jensen’s 1969 article arguing that racial differences in test performance were likely to be partly innate, most social scientists have chosen safer topics and hoped the problem would go away. We can do better.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-black-white-test-score-gap-why-it-persists-and-what-can-be-done/
Nope and look at the cost of colleges....Need I post the lost of worthless classes they offer, that create only more teachers, admin and infrastructure instead of moving us ahead....
Then comes the loans that can't be repaid, you want everyone to bail out the 37% that go there with no fix or way to pay.....
Dems make up the vast majority of education and faculties, so it lands at your feet....
I know you're not a twitter person but you should be, if only for the realization that gets put on the table daily.
Here is her full disclosure..... I'll spare you with responses but needless to say they weren't very favorable to her position in this matter.
I can understand why some people are upset about a 20 year old story of Cricket, one of the working dogs at our ranch, in my upcoming book — No Going Back. The book is filled with many honest stories of my life, good and bad days, challenges, painful decisions, and lessons learned.
What I learned from my years of public service, especially leading South Dakota through COVID, is people are looking for leaders who are authentic, willing to learn from the past, and don’t shy away from tough challenges. My hope is anyone reading this book will have an understanding that I always work to make the best decisions I can for the people in my life.
The fact is, South Dakota law states that dogs who attack and kill livestock can be put down. Given that Cricket had shown aggressive behavior toward people by biting them, I decided what I did.
Whether running the ranch or in politics, I have never passed on my responsibilities to anyone else to handle. Even if it’s hard and painful. I followed the law and was being a responsible parent, dog owner, and neighbor.
As I explained in the book, it wasn't easy. But often the easy way isn't the right way.
I could go on but I won't. She's out of office in 2026 along with her pal DeSantis and they are most likely steering themselves into a dystopian nightmare along with Abbot of TX. If this is all the GOP has to offer, they are in a world of shit.
Yeah, that, too...
The United States isn't investing as much in human capital as other developed countries and its comparative advantage is falling behind as a result. U.S. students' math skills have remained stagnant for decades. The country is falling behind many others which have greatly improved, such as Japan, Poland, and Ireland. U.S. test scores are below the global average.
As I've said a million times: We are a profoundly anti-intellectual country. One where cliches like "Those who can't do, teach" are greeted with approval. One where large numbers of parents would rather their kids be good athletes than good scholars. One in which there are a lot of homes without any books.
In countries like Germany and Japan, learning and teaching are respected, and teaching jobs below the university level are well-paid. In this country, not so much.
And here we are.
Could it possibly come from the attack on public schools, stealing tax payers money away so their kids can go learn about Jesus or whatever your new flavor of the day is, instead of math and english? Basically encamping them into a new Hitler youth like sphere where they are only taught what we want them to believe?
HMMMM. I wonder....
HA, what a joke you are. One of my other stories...
When I was 10 -12 playing in the chartered little league, my coach (my father) set up a little traveling team for us. They all do it now but it wasn't a thing back then. We always competed at every level. Our coach always taught us that no matter what our adversary was that we could win if we just played baseball. We won some, we lost some but at the end of the day, the game was all that mattered..
We played against Jackie Robinson league and it didn't matter who's town they came from or who the team was, they always stomped us. They were just great baseball players and we lost hard and learned our lesson. They weren't a charter team back then but there are some that were and when we went to play in the tournaments for the LLWS playoffs there was no recourse. Nobody cared where you lived or where you came from, only that you were 12 or under and could play.
There was a ton of angry parents that absolutely thought that the black kids were cheating when we weren't but other chartered leagues did it themselves on the local level. I only found that out when I was in High School and met some of the dudes, all white, that I competed against. They brought in ringers from all over the place and had addresses and birth certificates fabricated to prove that they belonged in a district..
Fast forward and things never changed, but guess who got dinged? Right, Jackie Robinson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disqualification_of_Jackie_Robinson_West_Little_League_from_the_2014_Little_League_World_Series
Now, Do you think the teams from Taipei or the UAE are held to the same standard? It's an honest question and I'll already give you an answer, but figure it out on your own.
I played hockey as a kid, later golf but it was always the same thing, if you want to play, you gotta pay. My equipment was always "hand me downs" because my parents could not afford it. Was it because I was a good white kid, or was it because I deserved it?
Basketballs and footballs are easy to come by but full gear and all the rest are not. I know kids now that need a 300 dollar bat and a glove that costs just as much to be able to compete. Not to mention the shoes that really did give me an edge in my day that my coach told me to get a job for if I wanted them so bad. I did, but I stuck to my job... life lesson
They wonder why such great athletes don't compete in baseball anymore...
https://www.bet.com/article/3hgcuz/mlb-all-star-game-2023-black-players-hbcu-swingman-classic
It's because they can get more money being a football or basketball player. It has nothing to do with the sport and all that it takes to be part of it and there is a racial divide that starts when we are young..
Math is racist........So lets lower the standards? No....lets raise the standards of our schools and hire more teachers, not just for the the minorities but for all......
Good things can go too far and end up hurting instead of helping......They are many things this country needs to focus on, raising our standards is one of them.....
https://www.thebalancemoney.com/the-u-s-is-losing-its-competitive-advantage-3306225
The United States isn't investing as much in human capital as other developed countries and its comparative advantage is falling behind as a result. U.S. students' math skills have remained stagnant for decades. The country is falling behind many others which have greatly improved, such as Japan, Poland, and Ireland. U.S. test scores are below the global average.
B402, Now explain to me in context of our discussion how your "Yep" is meant to make sense.
Why would you even consider i would remember that interview. I've never seen it before.
In the context of our chat, what is the exact point you meant to make with it.
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Yep is used to convey agreement. What of the above does your yep agree to?
One thing your "Yep" does there is that it illustrates clearly that your
and your idiot video's claim that we can't or won't discuss is horseshit.
Now if you reply Yep to this post then yours would make some sense.
Seems you haven't learned a thing in your past vacation month.
This is where you get information, how is it even checked.
Why would you even consider i would remember that interview. I've never seen it before.
In the context of our chat, what is the exact point you meant to make with it.
Phony, you're right. Those names conservatives give to conservative organizations are not only phony but in very many cases are designed to intentionally mislead any who don't know them. See all the conservative outfits that have Freedom in their name. None of them are about freedom for all.
Do you even remember Arthur Ashe and tennis, and all the shit he went through.
The first black golfer won in the 1970s, but he was barred from the dinner and ceremony.
As for your crime statics, see if you remember this one
Black Jockeys dominated the Kentucky Derby, then in 1920, Jim Crow laws barred them from competing for the next 80 years. Even after Civil Rights were passed in the 1960s. The Derby kept its rules of no black Jockeys.
B402, You have to be kidding. Your guy starts off with a huge conservative straw man-distraction when he says 'Why is it that black influencers and Democrats always bring racism to the table. Why do they take us back so many years.' Where does he get that from?
For example just there in our last two recent posts, you said racism had much improved, and i agreed. You said you guys - America - had done a decent job, and i agreed. Same goes i would suggest worldwide, except for few countries like Afghanistan where women's right have taken a huge backward step.
Then i gave you two stats, incarceration rate and homicide incidence and said you could do better. That obviously goes for most every country too. And you come back with that goddamn fool who talks rubbish.
All i gave you re your culture wars, Rufo and the stats i gave you are fact. And you come back with terribly flawed, aggressive opinion.
And you make that stupid, brooklyn13ish, argument that it's Democrats/liberals who won't or cannot debate.
Bullshit.
The story was published by The Guardian as an excerpt from her new book. I'm not sure whether, in the book, she made it clear that it happened 20 years ago.
If it really did. Probably someone will come up with an exact date.
But that really doesn't seem to matter. NO ONE is supporting her. Tons of farm people are posting, saying that isn't how they treat their animals.
Russia does not take weekends and holidays off. And they always bomb at night when it's the most stressful. shittypants's best friend pukey is an ultra shitbag.
https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/28-april-ukrainian-military-had-112-combat-engagements-with
It's more like graham having to clean orangebabies diapers and not wanting to get shit on himself. You don't want his brand sticking to you.
She'll try to 'humanize' it, like the maga is doing with shittypants and j6 and well, all the repulsecans do that.
Edit:: did not read up to and including newmedmans post. So she's already doing it. But it's okay, it's a twenty year old story and the past is past, right? Why was the total story in the media as if it was two weeks ago?
Yes. I remain unconvinced. And that post didn't get a lot of "We're with you, Kristy!" responses. In fact I don't think it got any supportive comment.
Maybe the asshole is a direct descendant.
https://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/robert-e-lee
Was Robert E. Lee a Slave Owner?
Lee did not grow up on a large plantation, but his wife inherited an enslaved worker in 1857 from her father, George Washington Park Custis.
Lee executed his father-in-law's will, which included Arlington House near Washington, D.C., a poorly managed plantation with debts and nearly 200 enslaved people, whom Custis wanted freed within five years of his death.
As a result of his father-in-law, Lee became owner of hundreds of enslaved workers. While historical accounts vary, Lee’s treatment of the enslaved peoples was described as being so combative and harsh that it led to revolts.
How many Blacks in the NHL or in golf and tennis? You can go protest at those venues if you please...But their time will come if that's the path they choose, the opportunity is there...
Your example is 25yrs old and would well fit with the above examples.....There are some hockey fans here, maybe they can explain it to you unless they are just plain racist organizations
The Republicans are hiding because when you support trump, you are afraid of offending him.
latest attempt at damage control.
I can understand why some people are upset about a 20 year old story of Cricket, one of the working dogs at our ranch, in my upcoming book — No Going Back. The book is filled with many honest stories of my life, good and bad days, challenges, painful decisions, and lessons…
— Kristi Noem (@KristiNoem) April 28, 2024
There's those phony names again that has nothing to do with what they really do.
The Heritage Foundation, and the Foundation Against Intolerance and Racism.[5][4][6]
I also remembering coming home from college and meeting some old friends who opened up about their relationship. It was my first time actually knowing someone who were gay. It was not easy for them, even old friends did not know how to react.
I don't think she could make that work. There are photos of Cricket. Other people knew Cricket existed, and saw her.
Now Cricket is dead, along with the goat, and Noem can only hope that eventually people will forget about it. I'm not sure that will happen.
Absolutely not, it is you that is stuck in the 60's and if you were alive back then (I wasn't) I'm fairly positive that your views haven't changed much if not at all. It's pretty depressing to have to read your posts day in and out about how much you hate how the world has changed and your inability to change with it.
I was a 1970's kid and I grew up learning how to be tolerant of all races, ethnicities and religions. I know it's hard for you to justify in your narrow mind but even the founders stated that "all men are created equal" . They didn't practice what they preached at the time but we later came around to include all men and yes, even women into our society as we should.
Later, we even came to realize that people are all not the same. Some heave an affinity for the same sex, some don't feel comfortable in their own skin and want to change, some even like to dress up and pretend that they could be another person without going through all the medical process. It makes no bit of difference to people like me but you see it as some sort of character flaw, which is wrong. If it makes them a much more happy and productive person that can better contribute to our society as a whole, then so be it.
Why they are ridiculed and scorned by people like you will always be a mystery to me. I have news for you, when I was young and growing up I had gay male friends who expressed themselves to me, close friends, but I never went down that path because ,well, I'm not gay and had no desire to be. Did I run around school shouting "faggot" and making their lives even tougher? No, I hooked them up with other like minded people I knew so they could experience the joy I felt by holding hands or kissing my girlfriends.
Nobody groomed me and nobody is grooming your kids either.
Of course, they had to keep extremely private about it because again, people like you would have ostracized them or even try to physically harm them so it always had to be a secret which is not very healthy either and that's a hard world to live in when you're just a young teenager trying to find your way through this shitty world. Some are more equipped than others to bee able to handle it, some are not and spend their lives on the fringes, not ever being able to face their realities. Those are the ones who are most troubled by your standards and eventually decide this planet is not for them. They take their own lives and that's extremely sad.
My thing about racism would take up a whole other page but I got some yard work to do, so I'll get back to you on that, only to suffice it to say that it does exist and is still alive and well to this day. Breaking it down into a political ideology is VERY disingenuous. I'm sorry that you never have grown as our society has but the rest of us have.
you can forward this to your pal conix too.... You think progressives are in a bubble, look around for a few seconds because we are the bubble that surrounds you.
Asine sweeping generalizations. The number of things that the right can't see is staggering. When a presidential candidate reflexively responds to a question about the cause of the Civil War... "I mean, I think the cause of the Civil War was basically how government was going to run, what you could and couldn't do, the freedoms in what people could and couldn't do."......not a rare view in the South, then that Party has a problem.
only what you can’t see is that your dorm in 2021 is better than the South before the Civil War.”
Only one Party wants to go back before the Civil Rights Bill, the Voting Rights Bill and Roe V Wade, and back to the past in general.
In the year Churchill Downs, and this year will celebrate the oldest horse race in America, the Kentucky Derby, discriminated against Black Jockeys. Between 1920-2000, 80 straight years of no black Jockeys. You just choose to look the other way.
Grow up, its not the sixties anymore......Progressaphobia
Mr. Maher defines it as “a brain disorder that strikes liberals and makes them incapable of recognizing progress. It’s like situational blindness, only what you can’t see is that your dorm in 2021 is better than the South before the Civil War.”
Every dog with Republican owners today. pic.twitter.com/t7ZWBbfuDS
— 𝕊𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕒𝕖_𝔾𝕦𝕣𝕝 (@SundaeDivine) April 27, 2024
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/2020-election-most-secure-history-dhs/
Republicans admit, the American elections are the most secure.
Only an American can vote in an American election.
Who are you voting for, fuagf?
Oops...sorry. You have an opinion on our elections but, alas...you cannot vote.
B402, I see a guy struggling to keep his arguments above water:
"Like every black family has the talk about the police.....Every white family with school age kids now has the conversation...No you are not a racist because you are white, no the US was not a racist country, we are the country that wants freedom for all and equal rights for all.....And we have fought and died for that ideal...
P - Humanity as a whole is ever evolving, we cannot hold the people of the past to the standards of today....
P - "'More' perfect union"......more, being the key word from the preamble of the constitution.....We've done damn good at it........."
There is gobbledygook there, but yes you have done a decent job of it.
Still, a quick count ranks you 5th or 6th in the incarceration rate stakes ..
.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate .
And, though as you know violent crime is down under Biden your homicide rate still leaves something
to be desired .. https://www.niussp.org/health-and-mortality/americas-high-homicide-rate/ .
It would make some sense if the threat of a 3rd party run by Manchin was seen as a too much of a threat.
Say that doesn't happen who would you vote for?
Has to be Trump a 3rd time, eh. Your 'open border' bullshit has been
totally debunked. Trump a 3rd time if your dream does not come true?
Like every black family has the talk about the police.....Every white family with school age kids now has the conversation...No you are not a racist because you are white, no the US was not a racist country, we are the country that wants freedom for all and equal rights for all.....And we have fought and died for that ideal...
Humanity as a whole is ever evolving, we cannot hold the people of the past to the standards of today....
"'More' perfect union"......more, being the key word from the preamble of the constitution.....We've done damn good at it.........
conix, We know facts disturb you so, but you have nowhere else to go.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/monumental-impact-george-floyds-death-black-america-rcna1021
How quickly we forget that during the term of the previous president trump, there was a battle happening, called Black Live Matter.
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20230503-the-kentucky-derbys-forgotten-black-past
Now if only the Kentucky Derby was like that. From 1920 to 2000, no black jockeys were allowed at the Kentucky Derby. Just when you think racism is over and done with.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tennessee-lawmakers-agree-second-billion-100007146.html
Governor Lee once again sticks to everyone with his second tax cut for businesses within the state. Meanwhile the average Tennessee worker supports everyone with one of the highest sales taxes in the nation.
Republicans just love cutting taxes for the wealthy, but the average Tennessee worker gets to support everyone with really high sales tax rates.
https://www.salestaxhandbook.com/tennessee/rates
The state charges 7 %, then you have local tax rates that can be a few more percentage points. Really is hard on people when they just buy food and gas.
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