The State of Politics

[hap0206]

extel -- our founders invented for us a system of government that can self-correct

we watched in action in Nov 2010

so we shall see and enjoy

Nov 2012

put your faith and money on the USA

[extelecom]

I don;t see a problem, maybe you can explain what you thin is B.S.

[BlackThought]

Gaddafi forces gain on rebels as no-fly zone calls fail to take off

[PegnVA]

You might be right...let's hope, should the need ever arise.

[pro_se]

Peg, I truly believe you might well be very surprised at the response should REAL need ever arise. When genuinely threatened, Americans tend to lose the divisive crappola very quickly in favor of just solving whatever the damn problem is so they can return to their partisan kvetching asap.

[Iggy_Bot]

Dems are wondering about obamas leadership .. WoW

[Iggy_Bot]

well we can rule out obama and all the libs,, they only think of themselves

[PegnVA]

How many Americans can say they would do that?...Some Americans don't even think every American should have health insurance - it's a safe bet they would not die to save their fellow-countrymen - afterall, some are Hispanic, black, non-believers.

[pro_se]

O...M...G...

The Fukushima 50: Not afraid to die
By Jim Axelrod


Since the disaster struck in Japan, about 800 workers have been evacuated from the damaged nuclear complex in Fukushima. The radiation danger is that great. However, CBS News correspondent Jim Axelrod reports that a handful have stayed on the job, risking their lives, to try to save the lives of countless people they don't even know. Although communication with the workers inside the nuclear plant is nearly impossible, a CBS News consultant spoke to a Japanese official who made contact with one of the 50 inside the control center.

The official said that his friend, one of the Fukushima 50, told him that he was not afraid to die, that that was his job. Cham Dallas, who led teams responding to the Chernobyl disaster, said that kind of response is not out of the normal for some workers in the nuclear energy sector. "(In) my experience of people in the action area of nuclear power is much like that," Dallas said. The 50 are working amid decreasing but still dangerously high levels of radiation. "The longer they stay the more dangerous it becomes for them," said expert Margaret Harding. "I think it is a testament to their guts for them to say, 'We'll stay and if that means we go, we go.'"

If the contamination threat isn't contained in a few weeks, finding enough workers willing to face the risks could become a crucial challenge. Dallas said he expects that in that scenario, the Japanese energy authorities may have to find volunteers willing to undergo similar dangers, which will be hard to do, but not impossible. Keep in mind they'd be volunteering to head into a place so potentially dangerous, that anyone within 20 miles of it was just asked to evacuate.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/15/eveningnews/main20043554.shtml

[pro_se]

extel ~ Mixing fact w/ blatant BS to build a strawman position should be beneath you...especially when it's so transparently false even YOU can see it.

Read #2191...& THINK before you reply.

[pro_se]

Peg ~ Even though My first impulse is to laugh at such mindlessness, I don't ridicule it much any more. Instead, I continually marvel at their ability to survive on such limited capacity.

Kinda sad...y'know?

[extelecom]

New residential housing starts fall 22.5% in February, biggest decline in 27 years
Could the news in residential housing markets possibly get worse? Apparently, the answer to that is yes — a lot worse. The Department of Housing and Urban Development reported today that residential housing starts, including multi-family dwellings, dropped an astonishing 22.5% in February from the previous month. New starts on single-family housing dropped 11.8%:

Privately-owned housing starts in February were at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 479,000. This is 22.5 percent (±9.8%) below the revised January estimate of 618,000 and is 20.8 percent (±9.0%) below the February 2010 rate of 605,000.

Single-family housing starts in February were at a rate of 375,000; this is 11.8 percent (±10.0%) below the revised January figure of 425,000. The February rate for units in buildings with five units or more was 96,000.

Don’t expect this number to rise in the next few months, either. Permit issuance dropped as well:

Privately-owned housing units authorized by building permits in February were at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 517,000. This is 8.2 percent (±3.3%) below the revised January rate of 563,000 and is 20.5 percent (±3.5%) below the February 2010 estimate of 650,000.

Single-family authorizations in February were at a rate of 382,000; this is 9.3 percent (±1.2%) below the revised January figure of 421,000. Authorizations of units in buildings with five units or more were at a rate of 121,000 in February.

Interestingly, the biggest percentage drop in starts month-on-month came in structures with 5 or more units (-47%), but that’s because of an unusually large number having been started in January. Year-on-year, the 5+ category grew 54.8%, a sign that rentals rather than ownership has become a growth industry. In contrast, the number of starts for single-family homes dropped -20.8% year-on-year, showing the crash in family-owned house construction continues.

Even the good news carries more dark cloud than silver lining. Housing completions rose in February by 13.9% over January, but still -13.0% from February 2011. The completions in 5+ unit structures rose 28.9%. However, that means that fewer projects are left to complete, which will squeeze construction and secondary markets even further. The drop in permitting means that there will be fewer new projects taking the place of these completions.

This is the biggest drop in residential starts in 27 years, according to Reuters, and correctly diagnoses the problem:

Housing starts posted their biggest decline in 27 years in February while building permits dropped to their lowest level on record, suggesting the beleaguered real estate sector has yet to rebound from its deepest slump in modern history. …

One key impediment to the sector’s recovery is a vast backlog of unsold inventory, while a shaky job market has also made consumers reluctant to embark on any major new financial commitments. Making matters worse, a glut of foreclosures, stalled in recent months by revelations of improper loan documentation, is depressing the market.

The effort to postpone foreclosures has, predictably, made the situation worse — although the convoluted accounting for loan ownership didn’t help either. Instead of attempting to forestall the inevitable, we should have been working to resolve status on uncertain assets two years ago. It would have been painful, but arguably less so than dragging out the uncertainty and depressing construction and secondary markets for this long.

Not only that, but the US didn’t take advantage of the delay to solve the real problem underpinning the real-estate meltdown: unemployment. If we wanted to spend tens of billions of dollars stalling foreclosures, then we should have simultaneously implemented pro-growth reductions in regulation and taxation to jump-start job creation and get people back into position to pay their mortgages — which would have been the only way to avoid the deluge of foreclosures that are coming or already are arriving. Instead, we expanded regulation directly on employment (ObamaCare) and investment (Wall Street regulation) and have barely touched the millions of people who lost their jobs in the Great Recession.

The recovery will be a mirage until we fix those problems rather than punting in order to enact hobby-horse government expansions.
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/16/new-residential-housing-starts-fall-22-5-in-february-biggest-decline-in-27-years/

[PegnVA]

"Google "GREED"...that reminds me of a not-too-bright Ihub poster on a site that shall remain nameless who said he(?) stopped using GOOGLE because Glenn Beck said to.
I kid you not!!!

[extelecom]

'Outstate' Wisconsin vs the unions
Bill Weckesser
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's support has been found, but to do so it looks like a reporter needs to leave Milwaukee and Madison. Bloomberg observes that Katherine Cramer Walsh of the University of Wisconsin-Madison reports that she found "bitterness while doing research in 27 communities, where many residents work multiple jobs without benefits while local government employees have health coverage and pensions."

"I heard a lot of comments and conversations about the rural-urban divide in our state," said Walsh, an associate professor of political science. "I was very struck by how resentful people in so-called outstate Wisconsin are of Madison and Milwaukee."

The Bloomberg story links to her blog site which leaves one reduced to shouting "duh!"

What I have learned is that there's a map that can explain a lot of the current tensions in Wisconsin. It is the map of the state itself. In Wisconsin, there are two main metro regions, one surrounding the largest city and industrial center, Milwaukee, and the other surrounding our state capitol and home of the flagship public university, Madison. The rest of the state is referred to as "outstate."

For many of the people I've talked with in outstate Wisconsin, their understanding of power, values, and resources goes like this (I'm paraphrasing here):

All of our taxpayer dollars get sucked in by Madison, diverted to Milwaukee, and we never see them again. The people in Madison are out of touch with the lives of people in rural and small town Wisconsin, and they are liberals and elitists who for the most part work for the state and have cushy health care and pensions. In addition, they are lazy. They can't possibly be working as hard as the rest of us who are working 2-3 jobs to make ends meet out here in these communities from which we can see businesses, industry, and farms leaving on a daily basis.

In this framework, public employees, especially public union members, are an easy target. Enterprising politicians, in the midst of a downturned economy can portray public employees as people out of step with hard working Americans. They can tap into the following types of sentiments (again paraphrasing):

They don't know what it is like to spend upwards of $1200 a month for health care for one's family. They don't know what it is like to live in a community that most politicians never visit or listen to. And they certainly don't know what it is like to have dedicated one's life to hard work and traditional values.

Obviously, the folks in Wisconsin's fly-over counties are on to something. The Madison liberals should rejoice. They've convinced everyone of socialism, class envy and tax the rich. Of course the public sector workers never figured they'd end being the rich.


Bill Weckesser

E. Lansing, MI


Page Printed from: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/03/outstate_wisconsin_vs_the_unio.html

[extelecom]

"i'm always amazed by how the progressives are preoccupied by Georgie B. long after he is gone....."

Discussing the Obama disaster is just too painful for many.

[pro_se]

There you go again Peg, confusing them with facts! Tsk. Tsk.

[pro_se]

Ye Olde Tea Partiers Instant Guide to Political Buzzwords
by Bruce Lindner


Attention Patriots! Are you sick and tired of getting your gonads handed to you by those smarty-britches liberals, with their pesky “facts?” Well, if you’re like me, and you just want to reach through your computer screen and throttle their lefty asses for being so smug, but you can’t, because of something called physics, then here’s what you do:

You deflect them with Ye Olde Tea Partiers Instant Guide to Political Buzzwords! Whenever you get cornered on who was president when the economy crashed, or who signed TARP, or, when some Massachusetts union worker mentions Saddam’s WMD’s (I swear, they’re still out there), you just whip out your book, and pick a word … any word. Because the point isn’t to make a point, it’s to deflect their point.

Here, watch this: “So, when George Bush was warned in writing about Osama bin Laden planning an attack 6 weeks before 9/11, why didn’t he bother to read the report?”

You respond; “Clinton!!”

Or, when some California latte sippin’ college professor in Birkenstocks says; “Why did the economy begin to stall over four years ago, and the White House ignored the warning signs insisting; “The economy is robust,” rather than working to prevent the collapse?

You say; “Barney Frank!”

End of argument. At least, temporarily. And while he’s distracted, you tell him that you’re late for dinner, or your Klan meeting — whatever. So, here are the phrases you need to know. Use them wisely, but use them often. Remember, there’s no truth that’s so entrenched that a little repetitive propaganda can’t unravel it. Hey, it worked for Goebbels.

1) Socialism

2) Ayres

3) Kenyan

4) Marxism

5) Alinsky

6) George Soros

7) Clinton!! (two exclamation marks always required here)

8) “Real” Americans

9) Redistribution

10) Muslim

11) Birth Certificate

12) Moveon.org

13) Community organizer

14) 57 States

15) Hussein

16) Chicago

17) Muslim (again, because you just can’t say this one too often)

18) Taxes

19) ObamaCare

20) Hillary

21) SEIU

22) Death panels

23) Reverse racism

24) Cap & trade

25) Black Panthers (actually, just black will do)

26) ACORN

http://thepragmaticprogressive.org/wp/2011/03/13/ye-olde-tea-partiers-instant-guide-to-political-buzzwords/

[PegnVA]

How many gov't jobs did GWB's new DEPARTMENT of HOMELAND SECURITY create? Answer: +200,000.

How much did DHS cost US taxpayers in FY 2008? Answer: $47,329,664.

[pro_se]

...why would you first & ONLY create PUBLIC SECTOR jobs

Hell, Georgie...that's easy. Where ELSE can meaningful hiring happen? Where's the demand for widjits? Who's gonna front the $$$$ to start production of crap nobody can afford to buy? The mighty capitalistic system is busted. How'd that happen?

Google 'GREED' & report back.

As for those detestable 'public sector' jobs...the people doing the work rebuilding much-needed infrastructure your buddies abandoned are neither complaining OR on welfare, are they? Also, I'll bet the suppliers of materials aren't complaining either.

I wonder why that is...hmmm?

Maybe the system is barely starting to work again...ya think?

[extelecom]

Obama the invisible
Anti-leadership amid world crises
Where is the president? The world is beset. Moammar Khadafy is moving relentlessly to crush the Libyan revolt that once promised the overthrow of one of the world's most despicable regimes.

So where is the president?

Japan may be on the verge of a disaster that dwarfs any we have yet seen. A self-governing nation like the United States needs its leader to take full measure of his position at times of crises when the path forward is no longer clear.

This is not a time for leadership; this is the time for leadership.

So where is Barack Obama?
The moment demands that he rise to the challenge of showing America and the world that he is taking the reins. How leaders act in times of unanticipated crisis, in which they do not have a formulated game plan and must instead navigate in treacherous waters, defines them.

Obama is defining himself in a way that will destroy him.

It is not merely that he isn't rising to the challenge. He is avoiding the challenge. He is Bartleby the President. He would prefer not to.

He has access to a microphone 24 hours a day, seven days a week. If he tells the broadcast networks in the middle of the day that he has a major address to deliver on an unprecedented world situation, they will cancel their programming for him.

And yet, since Friday and a press conference in which he managed to leave the American position on Libya more muddled than it was before, we have not heard his voice. Except in a radio address -- he talked about education legislation.

And he appeared at a fund-raiser in DC. And sat down with ESPN to reveal his NCAA picks.

He cannot go on like this. Niall Ferguson, the very pessimis tic economic his torian, wrote the other day that the best we can now hope for is that Obama leaves the country in the same kind of shape that Jimmy Carter left it in.

That doesn't do Obama justice. Despite how disastrously he has handled the crises of the past two months, he can still turn his presidency around on a dime.

For Obama to save himself, he should be thinking about the example of an unlikely Republican predecessor: Richard Nixon.

The multifarious crises the president now faces are eerily similar to the kinds of calamities that greeted Richard Nixon in his first term from 1969-1972. Then, as now, the world was on fire. Wars erupted between China and the Soviet Union, India and Pakistan, even El Salvador and Honduras.

Jordan was nearly taken over from within by the Palestine Liberation Organization. There were humanitarian disasters in Biafra (the result of civil war), Bangladesh (due to flooding) and Nicaragua (deadly earthquake).

There was more, much more -- including a war he inherited in Vietnam, just as Obama has the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. You get the point.

Nixon in 1968, unlike Obama 2008, was elected as a minority president with only 43 percent of the vote. Yet, in 1972, he won what, in some measures, was the most lopsided election in American history with 61 percent.

Nixon achieved it, in large measure, because he appeared to be a serious man grappling in deadly earnest with the serious problems presented to him by a world careening out of control.

He demonstrated high competency when it came to matters on the world stage. He and his team (primarily Henry Kissinger) developed coherent policies and strategies for coping with the world. There was no question, to friend or foe, that he was fully engaged, paying attention, deeply involved.

Nixon was an awful president in many ways, including in some of his foreign-policy choices. But he left no doubt that foreign policy and America's leadership in the world outside its borders was of paramount importance to him.

All this had the effect of elevating Nixon during his time in office, so that when it came to running against George McGovern in 1972, Nixon seemed like a Titan and McGovern a pipsqueak.

How Nixon conducted himself in office in times of crises made possible his triumphant re-election. Right now, how Obama is conducting himself in a time of crisis is having the opposite effect.

He began his presidency as a potential colossus -- but if he doesn't change, he will finish it as a pipsqueak. Pipsqueaks don't win second terms.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/obama_the_invisible_Ass40MBstf15MAr9DYAORK

[extelecom]

Wholesale prices up 1.6 pct. on steep rise in food
Wholesale prices rise 1.6 pct. due to biggest jump in food costs in more than 36 years
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Wholesale-prices-up-16-pct-on-apf-3777454020.html?x=0&.v=1

[extelecom]

What, Me Worry?

It's March. The world is aflame. Economic crisis. Unemployment crisis. Middle East crises. Japan earthquake/tsunami/nuclear crises. Iranian nuclear weapons crisis. Gas prices crisis. Humanitarian crises.

Good thing we've got a competent president who's on top of it all. In fact, his schedule over the past few days has revealed just how laser-focused he has been on all of these disasters. Saturday night, he donned white tie and delivered warmed-over yuks at the Gridiron Dinner. Sunday, he played yet another round of golf. Today, he's picking his NCAA college basketball brackets, to air tomorrow on ESPN. He wears the heavy responsibilities of the office well, no?

Some people think Obama is an inexperienced naif in way over his head. Others think that he knows exactly what he's doing, that he needs and stokes crises for the sinister purposes of remaking the country in a socialist model and the world in a more dangerous, anti-American way.

I think it's possible that both are true: that Obama encourages and relishes crisis (whether in Wisconsin, the deficit and debt, or Libya) as a way to destabilize the existing order and replace it with things far different---wealth-redistributing models in the U.S. and Islamist regimes in the Middle East---WHILE not having a clue what he's truly doing. It's possible he's unleashed the monster but has no idea how to ride or manage it. We've got a president with dark motivations who is in over his head. This is our biggest crisis.

But Alfred E. Newman in the White House can't be bothered with the explosions both here and abroad. Let the world sort itself out. American leadership is overrated. There are brackets to pick.
http://monicamemo.typepad.com/weblog/2011/03/what-me-worry.html

[GEO928]

60 minutes......??????

you can't possibly be serious???

try to use a source with a modicum of credibility.....

60 minutes....hahaahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i'm always amazed by how the progressives are preoccupied by Georgie B. long after he is gone.....

wow....do you think he was responsible for the great depression, too...???

[GEO928]

to believe:

And just what should he have done considering this country was left for dead on the bottom of ocean?

you were told that.....and, because you are a progressive and wish to believe, you (plural) sucked up the Kool-aid and begged for more.....

question: if you want to stimulate the economy and create jobs, why would you first & ONLY create PUBLIC SECTOR jobs.....i.e. non-productive, take tax money jobs.....???

and, please don't say the left over BS from the Bush era is a tax cut....

that proves the problem....progressives/Democrats have abslutely no clue....

that's why it isn't "working out".....

[PegnVA]

"The former "idiot" Bush is looking good right about now" - Really? Apparently you don't read much and did not see last Sunday's 60 MINUTES interview with 'curveball", the former Iraqi who made up LIES about SH having WMD to trick the US into invading Iraq...The US never interviewed this guy, none-the-less we bombed/invaded Iraq - Bush was a USEFUL "idiot".

[pro_se]

geo ~ You're not THAT dumb, okay? Ease up, bubbles...you're tryin' too hard!

[Iggy_Bot]

LMAOOOO From Hope & Change to "And just what should he have done considering this country was left for dead on the bottom of ocean"

Im gonna change wholeeeeeee system, im gonna change wholeeeeeeee thing


2 funny want some cheese with that whine ?

[BlackThought]

No Easy Fixes in Illinois Pension Mess http://on.wsj.com/hQjMdm

[BlackThought]

Watchdog says TARP helps perpetuate "Too big to fail" http://dlvr.it/KPq4w

[BlackThought]

Raymond "Boots" Riley on Police brutality -- Uncensored

[tinner]

after Obama's failure to promote/create jobs in the private sector

And just what should he have done considering this country was left for dead on the bottom of ocean? Cut taxes for you fat cats? Worked really really good for you and Yogi didn't it?

[GEO928]

Tinner.....as I said....makes little difference......

anyone/team with reasonable competence & credibility will oust Obama....

and when you used the term idiots with Republicans, you forgot Democrats....

neither is very brilliant....

The former "idiot" Bush is looking good right about now.....

and, after Obama's failure to promote/create jobs in the private sector....Sarah Palin is looking like a super-star!!!

the job picture will be the determining factor in the next election....

[tinner]

And choice of Republican idiots would be?

[benzdealeror2]

Libtard genetics

[GEO928]

pro.....that won't happen...

Biden will stay....

the Dem ticket will be Obama & Biden.....

and, if things continue on course.....just about anyone with an iota of credibility will beat Obummer....

Obama, thus far, is a complete failure....

and....

Biden is the "useful idiot"....the Demorats need him to smile with his chicklet teeth and lie....

Biden is a model/figurehead to fool old white people into voting for marxists/progressives....

Hillary won't be in the mix....unfortunately....her presence would mean certain, undoubted defeat....

Hillary is a hard-core Marxist and Alinsky groupie.....

plus.....

common knowledge: she and her husband tried to steal $198,000 worth of furnishings from the White Hosue when they left....just classless low-lifes.....

besides, she's a narcissist even worse than Barry.....(if that's possible)....

she' ineffective in her job...making it more than obvious she was placed there as a pay-off....

she's not electable.....to anything....

but, it makes no difference....as most Demorat/progressives before him.....Obama's overwhelming incompetence shines thru...

he's in waaaaay over his head.....

Obama is gone.....

only redeemable if jobs improve....

and, that won't happen....

Obama was placed in office to ruin the economy....and, he has performed admirably.....

progressives have no clue how to improve the job picture....

the progressive guru, FDR, was so incompetent & clueless the depression lasted a decade and took a war to end it.....

it's theoretically possible he could be re-elected......but, unlikely they can put him in the W.H. twice in a row....

[BlackThought]

International Day Against Police Brutality

[pro_se]

On the Dem side ~ I wouldn't be too surprised if Madam Clinton replaces Biden in the run for O's 2nd term. Thataway, a huge political debt would be paid...finally.

(no, i won't explain)

[pro_se]

Hide'n Watch. LOL!

[SoxFan]

huckabee is not running as he needs the fox money

[pro_se]

Huckabee/Bachmann is the most logical team. The real trick will be allowing them enough $$$$ to make a credible run while guaranteeing they lose soundly to fully justify a serious house cleaning.

[SoxFan]

Here are the leaders

Huckabee, Bachmann Have Most Intense Following in GOP FieldSarah Palin is best known, but her Positive Intensity Score trailsby Frank NewportPage: 12 PRINCETON, NJ -- Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee leads the field of possible GOP presidential candidates in "positive intensity" among Republicans nationwide with a score of +25 among Republicans who are familiar with him, followed by Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota with a score of +20. Huckabee is recognized by 87% of Republicans, compared with Bachmann's 52%. A number of other possible Republican presidential candidates trail these two in Positive Intensity Scores, including Sarah Palin, who is the best known of the group.



These findings are based on Gallup Daily tracking interviews conducted between Feb. 28 and March 13 with more than 1,500 Republicans and Republican-leaning independents nationwide rating each of 12 potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates. Gallup now tracks these candidates' images on a daily basis, and will report aggregated results on Gallup.com on a weekly basis.

Gallup asks Republicans whether they recognize each potential candidate and, for each one they recognize, whether they have a strongly favorable, favorable, unfavorable, or strongly unfavorable opinion of that person. Gallup calculates a "Positive Intensity Score" for each person rated, based on the difference between strongly favorable and strongly unfavorable opinions among those who are familiar with him or her. This score provides an indication of the intensity of support among a candidate's base of followers at any given point in the campaign.

Overall, none of the 12 potential candidates generates a high level of intensely positive opinions. Huckabee has the highest Positive Intensity Score at +25, with 27% of Republicans who recognize him expressing a strongly favorable opinion and 2% expressing a strongly unfavorable opinion.

Bachmann is next on the list, with a Positive Intensity Score of +20 -- the difference between the 24% who have heard of her and have a strongly favorable opinion of her and the 4% whose opinion is strongly unfavorable. Her relatively high positioning on this list is noteworthy given her lower name identification of only 52%, indicating that she generates stronger-than-average reactions among those who know her.

The remaining 10 Republicans' Positive Intensity Scores range from +17 for former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich to +5 for former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson. Notably, former Alaska Gov. and 2008 vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin's Positive Intensity Score of +16 puts her below the top scorers, despite her almost universal name recognition of 96%.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/146621/Huckabee-Bachmann-Intense-Following-GOP-Field.aspx

[pro_se]

The only stab at future relevance is for them to cleanse the Republican brand of the Kochthuckers who've held sway since Reagan ran for Prez. Will they actually do it?

Who the hell knows.

[SoxFan]

they have so many to pick from - Palin, Bachmann, - hey let's include Tancredo, Paul, Gingrich, Santorum, Herb Cain, oh and what's a Republican race without Alan Keyes.

[pro_se]

The wisest move for the RNC is to run the most radical Tea Bagger they have & use the loss to rebuild their brand sans wackos.

[SoxFan]

He's not even gong to run - can you even imagine having someone who thinks the earth is less than 10,000 years old running and winning the nomination of a major party?

[pro_se]

...Either him or the boob from Arkansas.

[SoxFan]

I suspect Pawlenty will be the sacrifical lamb as he has taken a hard right off the bridge to stupidity

[pro_se]

Mitt...aka "Moot"...doesn't really matter much. The RNC old guard desperately NEED the 'race to the bottom' to remain undecided until their August convention so they can control whose political career to sacrifice thru nomination/confirmation to face Obama.

[SoxFan]

Mitt Romney will not win MA if he runs. I doubt he even campaigns here

[BlackThought]

Tim Geithner: Everyone benefits from a quick mortgage settlement: http://huff.to/f0D4Gf