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Simple respond to Wdrp not bringing anything new to the table, shoes were invented thousands of years ago, yet Nike was able to become succesful. Just like people heating water since the invention of fire there is room for improvement.
Tony64 -
First, let us get it straight about Nikola Tesla - He did, in fact have engineering experience, having studied electrical engineering at the Austrian Polytechnic in Graz (1875). While there, he studied the uses of alternating current. He went to Marburg where he was first employed as an assistant engineer. He later attended Charles-Ferdinand University in Prague, starting in 1880. On the opening of the telephone exchange in Budapest, 1881, Tesla became the chief electrician to the company, and was later engineer for the country's first telephone system.
And on and on. Saying Tesla had no engineering experience is just plain wrong. It was Edison, who, in fact, was fairly untrained in the field.
Anyhow, I urge you to take the time to understand that in the case of microwave heating of water, there is nothing being presented by Wanderport that in my view represents new physics, or unknown technology. The microwave heating of water has been known and used for at least 50 years (I know this because I personally saw the effect being used commercially in 1964). The laws of physics and conservation of energy have not been abridged to allow any special functionality by this or any other microwave device.
Since the folks on the WDRP board seem to place great store in some patent applications that are claimed to have been filed by the company, lets look at some previous patents issued in the field:
US Patent # 3,778,578 Long , et al. December 11, 1973
US Patent # 3,812,315 Martin May 21, 1974
US Patent # 3,816,689 Long June 11, 1974
US Patent # 3,920,945 Smith , et al. November 18, 1975
Just look at these for a start. They are easy to get to using Google patents, or via the US patent office at USPTO.gov.
Honestly, I have a great deal of experience in the field of microwaves, which is what caused me to look at Wanderport initially. I have not seen anything presented, thus far, which has caused me to want to put one cent of my own money into this venture. Further, I have seen such ignorance and disinformation on the board concerning the "This time its different" effect, that I have tried to point out to folks where they need to look to see why the claims that are being made are probably not going to be fulfilled.
So please, instead of assuming that folks who are trying to inform you about the way the universe you live in works, and why you can't put more energy into water than is supplied by the electrical system, are out to get you for some reason, just take the time to slow down, sit down and understand what is actually being promised, and how it is supposed to work. If it is too complicated for you to understand in a calm analysis, then it is too complicated to put your money into. Never invest in magic you don't understand. Make them prove it to you.
(By the way, if my guys took as long to get a simple prototype up and running as these guys seem to, I would fire the whole lot of them).
The leg is good, walking with a limp still. I took the pictures last week but they have on a 1 post per day so I couldn't post them from my phone. I know physics plays a big role but I am a big fan of new technology. Remer when Tesla first met Edison and told him that he had an Idea to create a ac current motor, Edison said it will never work and that most cities were already wired with dc, so what happened the crazy guy with no engineering experience demostrated that Edison was wrong. I believe Robert is capable of bringing a heater that can match or even beat whatever is out there.
No one is taking into consideration materials used for the heat exchanger, or its shape. Or that water qll be turbulent and not standing still, remember when you are making soup one has to stir the pot for the heat to distribute evenly. Or the fact that a standard water heater is 27 inches wide and the electric elements the bigger they come is 11" long so there is still 16 of water inside a typical tank that gets heated by friction and creates cold spots, Wdrp will direct the microwaves right on the center of the very small heat exchanger, from what I saw the heat exchanger holds about a gallon of water. Math was never my best class but I can I can pretty much reduce any house,s energy bill by rearranging the pipes layout and adding a couple of recirculating pumps that bring the hot water back from the sink to the cold water pipe of the water heater, in this layout there is no waiting for hot water and the heater is not heating up 50 degree water but recycling what it already made.
Dang Tony, as I saw the posts going up with the pics I was starting to think someone held out on us and discovered some pics somehow left on a phone after a trip to Vermont
You know, it is not that they cannot do it, or even save people money overall. It is just that there have been some fairly unreal expectations.
I figure if they bring this to market and it is well done, good construction, good service life, they have a shot at making electric tankless more of a reality (read the reviews of the existing products - they appear to suck!) And there are likely a number of commercial nitch markets. But people should not expect more than is possible.
Cheers (you really had me hoping with those pics at first how's the leg? )
Tony, i had one year physics at university... (did mathematics), but i neither understand their calculations...
Seems logic to me the energy you put in, will be transferred to the water, if other companies with their devices claim they are 99% efficient, why not WDRP?
I don't know anything of thermodynamics and especially not microwaved thermodynamics...
Hoping for the best, but being prepared for the worst...
:o(
Guys those pictures of two water heaters currently in the market one by GE and the other by aosmith. Both are 75 gallons and need 200 amps of electricity, each one of those elements is rated at 4500 watts multiply that by 5 elements in each tank, yeah 25,000 watts roughly, so Wdrp will come out with endless hot water with 6,000 watts and people are screaming that it won't be efficient.
wyo would you please respond to 39679 on the WDRP board for me. I have been banned to 1 post a day.
Tell Beers I expect a 50 deg temp rise at 2.5-3.5 gpm. IMO
Good to see you are still long.
Long WDRP!!!!!!!!!
walker
Earn dont be afraid and say what you need to say here. no need for the pm lil buddy.
Sure, pilotenergy@ gmail.com
Sent you a msg but could only reply to Pilotheating from the past. Could you hit me again with address I can reply to? On the pm side.
Tell me about it. Notice our "Expert in everything poster" He is full of wisdom. He is really smart too, you can tell by the way he types. Can you guess who?
I posted it on the board but got deleted, of course.
Lol @ your pm. That was great.
Yeah I noticed I was trigger happy,lol.still progress even though at a snail pace.
Its a patent application only, Tony.
jmo
Patent approved for the heat exchanger, uh I guess Robert was not lying, oh also let me add the naysayers were claiming the old patent was denied because of lack of innovations, well guess what the new heat exchanger is very innovative.
Nice to wyo and fizzle post on the board, is good to see you guys.
They didn't need to post today since the stock was in a decline, why waste saliva on a down day.
Wow not one comment all day by any of them.
Looks like the magpies have quit chattering on WDRP.
Maybe I will use my one post to get them going again.
Long WDRP!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
One post per day indefinitely almost nothing lol
I hope the ban is not too long... But at least you can post here!
Welcome to the ban club Tony! Are you completely banned or just one post a day?
We just need some real positive news and indisputable efficiency numbers then they will relinquish control of the board.
Still holding WDRP!!
Hey common cents the only thing tingling is my rear pocket with so many pick pockets around here.
Join the club.
Looks like the bashers have control of the board.
Go WDRP!!!!!!!!!
I'm still long and trust in my initial dd (hate to use those 2 letters) and initial investment.
Ha they put me on ban list at Wdrp for calling out the obvious, no regrets on my part
Testing the Droid app.
Post your email here Or on yahoo thanks
Hey guys, hope your Turkey day was good! I saw Mr. Dyson on CNN, The inventor of the Dyson Vacum and other products. He said he made some thing like 5,227 vacums and 5,226 of them were failures! It took many years to perfect what he was trying to do to make a better product! SO, hope our little stock is the same way, and it will come sooner then later! Good luck
You can post the same post everyday, it's not a violation... ;o)
I thought Multiple post containing the same content posted over and over is a direct violation of the TOS. I have seen that post saying "tell that to Dan Ryan" at least 100 times in last few weeks!
Ridiculous!!
Jmo
Turkey sandwich today. As far as I know the unit already left design1 and is now in Canada for some spot welding. I also heard Dave is ready for the receipt of the unit to start distribution. I don't know if the unit needs to go back to design1 or if it will go to ul next.
First of all, thank you all for your friendship and support on the WDRPland adventure. Now for the more important stuff of today, the pepperoni stuffed turkey is in the oven, and I'm getting ready to start to watch football!!!
Blessings to everyone and their families,
Alan
I'm still here as well, just haven't a lot to say. Stopped howling at the moon and have taken up chasing mommy around the house!
Blessed Thanksgiving to all,
Alan/Wyoskeptic
I still on board just waiting for this company to step up to the plate already.
I wish I did have good (WDRP) news.
I scan that board now and then, rarely see a post to bother to read, post maybe once each week or two just to have presence or provoke Its almost funny (probably should not have said that with the post from eDD here some time back).
I have read this board for a long time, but this is the first I have posted, letting you all know.
There is just not much to say (and did not feel well enough known to have sympathized on the leg injury when it went down).
I scan the yahoo also - looking for a verifiable positive indicator.
Like Wrinkles I may be back in at some point, made some money on WDRP, nowhere near to the hoped, and I may regret not riding through these lows. It is just the chance I am taking, mostly due to how badly the company has handled everything these past couple years but especially these past four months. I have hopes for them, for the product, but it has all become an infrequent waiting game for me.
Cheers and good luck to you all.
At least I gave you a break my friend, lol. Had to get away from that board and stock for the timebeing. We'll see what happens going forward. That greet and meet just did it for me, told me what I wanted to know, remains to be seen if I was right or not, although stock was .023 to .032 range day of the public shareholder meeting, so I guess I did save some dough by bailing after that, considering where it is now. Who knows, same ol same ol for more than 2 yrs now. Until they stop dangling the carrot and factually finally coming through, all just jerking our chains, jmo. I'll watch, wait and try to stay up to date, could get back in at some point? Back under my rock, good luck Buddy and most importantly, thanks for your service on all our behalf and our families.
The blah blah blah never stops on that other board does it? It's getting to the point that every time I read a post I wanna throw up in my mouth. What makes it worse is most of the positive posters have gone completely quiet!
Anybody have any good news to share with those of us who still want good things?
I am sure this post will be deleted on WDRP board so I am posting it here as well.
These posts should have been followed by WDRP.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=65434448
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=65435834
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=65647256
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=65592205
I am still long in this stock and believe in the company.
Go WDRP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for mentioning it... I had not read it...
Anyone spoke with the company the last days?
yes I noticed that, I saw like 25 posts were deleted.
Hello All,
Not sure if anyone else caught this, but Belize posted on the WDRP board yesterday and indicated he still holds all if his shares. That message was there only briefly. Not surprisingly, that meassage was removed/deleted shortly afterward. It was a post between posts 38459 and 38462. I don't know if Belize decided to delete it or if it was deleted. Wouldn't be surprised if it was deleted by Mods or by Ihub. Not sure why...I didn't see anythong wrong with it...just the state of that board these days I guess, and it's the reason I don't post there anymore.
GLTA.
Sittin, waiting and hopin....
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