This is interesting.
Post subject: Re: Debunking the "Supriem Rockefeller" myth/hoaxPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:17 am
Yeah, fraud is right! I was just made aware of this topic thread, and I can't believe it! I was directed here by an ex-acquaintance of Kris. Let me explain. I was a fraud victim of Kris as well. My name is Art, and I met Kris at Uptown's smoke shop in Franklin, TN. I am an (ironically) an artist. I ran into a guy who used to work at Uptowns, where I knew Kris from and he told me about all this!
Well, I got to speaking with Kris regularly, because he was at Uptown's smoke shop every day. He told me that he'd advise me on how to most profitably sell my art or the art of others, and that what I really needed to do was set up a phony non profit organization. This way, I wouldn't have to pay taxes, but I'd have to at least appear to give 50 percent of my earnings to charity. He said then I could sell my art through "charitable auctions", and "charity fund raiser events" but in reality I could keep most of it. He explained that I would get more buyers this way because they would get a tax write off and would do it for charity, but with his help I could keep nearly all of the money anyways. He claimed that he would set things up for me and all we needed to get started were the incorporation fees. There was other parts which I don't fully remember and didn't even understand at the time, about Nevada corporations, anonymous corporate directors, and blind trusts. I wont try to go into that, because I don't remember it.
Well, being a desperate struggling artist with very little money, I was tempted. Besides, I figured that I could always do what I was supposed to and give the full half to charity. Also, I really saw the value in the marketing side of it.
Kris claimed that all he needed to get started were the incorporation fees which were roughly $1500. I had some doubts about his credibility, because it was clear to me he was trying to sound more intelligent than he really was. He was trying to use big words, but was misusing them. It was clear to me that he was really trying to sound smart, which kind of set off a bullshit alert, which I overlooked because I was so excited about the pipe dream he was selling me. He really had me excited me with visions of selling lots of my art at exclusive, swanky charitable art auctions with wealthy elite attendants. He told me he could help get people to my events because of all his contacts with elite types after we got things up and running too. I guess I was just intoxicated by all this hype.
I overcame my misgivings about his credibility, because he told me he had a Phd in International Finance. When I asked him about it he showed me his college transcripts! He told me he had another Phd in artificial intelligence. Plus he was always hanging out with that Jaden guy who was clearly dripping with money. He drove a Porsche Boxter convertible, wore expensive clothes etc, and he and Kris were always hanging out together and talking about financial stuff, so that also made me believe in his legitimacy. Even though Kris drove a beat up 80s pontiac and looked scraggly and poor, I figured it was because he was in school getting his Phd, and hadn't been working. After all of this, much too late, I looked up the school that was on his transcripts and it was a diploma mill which sells BS degrees!
So, I worked hard for months and made lots of sacrifices to be able to pay the piper, with the motivation that all these visions of being a successful artist and staring in charity art auctions gave me. Finaly, over a month later, I had the money. I was even late on other bills and rent so as to be able to do it quicker.
Well, he said it takes some time for non profit status to get approved. That sounded reasonable, so I didn't freak out. Well after a couple of weeks, Kris disappeared altogether from the smoke shop. This was apparently very unusual, since he spent hours there every day before.
Well at this point I began fearing the worst, and I decided to quit going to the smoke shop. I thought that since he was friends with everyone there, they'd tell him that I was always there asking about him. So I quit going, and just waited and watched from a distance. Surely enough, after a week or so, he showed back up. I came in and asked him what the deal was, and demanded information or evidence that he had done something. He assured me that things were being done, and that he had some crazy personal things happen that he couldn't go into, and that he should have communicated with me more, and he's sorry he didn't. He said he didn't have the proof on hand with him right there and I couldn't expect him to have the proof on him at random. Like an idiot I believed him, although hesitantly. Then of course he disappeared again and I eventually just quit trying to go after him. I didn't have enough money to hire a lawyer, and even if I were to save it, it would cost more than the $1500 or so I paid him for a lawyer to go after him.
I just chocked it up to experience, and tried to learn a lesson from it. This guy is definitely a fraudster and nothing more. He's not a fucking Rockefeller give me a break. If anyone has contact info on him now, let me know. I'd like to look into how much it would be to sue him now! This guys is a cruel scamming financial predator. Selling people dreams and pulling the rug out from underneath them after they pay him!
He was a fast talking chain smoker. He caused me lots of anguish. I hope he gets busted, he should be brought to justice.
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Post subject: Re: Debunking the "Supriem Rockefeller" myth/hoaxPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 7:47 pm
Hi elda,
I just came forward because like I said I just now became aware of this! I ran into a guy who used to work at Uptowns and he told me all about this! I couldn't believe it when I first heard everything he had to say.thought I had heard the last of that guy. I The encounters were all in 2001-2002 mostly at Uptowns smoke shop in Franklin, TN. Since then Uptowns has closed that location and opened in the Green Hills area of Nashville, right across from Green Hills Mall. I still go there occasionally. Believe me I would have come sooner, but I didn't know about all of this. So, I talked to a lawyer and unfortunately there's probably not much I can do about it legally. Since it happened over a year ago it's past the statute of limitations, meaning it is too far in the past to prosecute according to Tennessee law. But at least I can share my experience and warn everyone else!
Post subject: Re: Debunking the "Supriem Rockefeller" myth/hoaxPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:22 pm
Here is Supriem Rockefeller's official statement.
We are not out to mislead anyone, in anyway, so let me clear this up. The Kinti press release said Kinti would be supporting The Temple Institute and working "in conjunction" with them in order to build the Third Temple. Kinti is not out to "steal" people's money, Kinti was merely set to make donations to The Temple Institute to go to the great cause of the The 3rd Temple.
My personal goal is not to build a Temple that saves one race, I am of GD and want a Temple that unites all races. I stand by my support of the PNIC and an Israel-Palestine One State Solution. In the end, GD is the ultimate judge and my actions to try and help The Temple Institute and the people of Palestine will be seen by the world as truly sincere. I ask that all people in the Jewish, Christian and Muslim communities give me their support for the Holy vision of uniting all of GD's children.
I will do anything to see the Third Temple built except alienate other races in the process. If I have offended the Jewish community in my support for Palestine and Israel uniting, I ask you to see GD's vision and not the vision of a biased nature. The only certainty is uncertainty, so in these times of tribulation I ask that we all stand together as One.
If anyone saw Kinti's work as a scam, I sincerely apologize for all we wanted to do was help raise money for The Temple Institute but at the same time bringing in funds for the Palestinian National Interest Committee. I am on GD's mission and will continue my work of having a One State Palestine-Israel.
With GD's blessings,
SPRM
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