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or at least wasnt aware that that would be considered public to the SEC
I stand corrected then. I wasnt aware that mario filed them publically....
as far as corp ch-7... not going to happen- trustee said liquidation, would be 11 not 7..assetts sold off to highest bidder (which is why charlie asked if anyone wanted to buy the comp) divided up to the creditors starting with the largest creditor first.
Hopefully not going to happen either way... hopefully we get a dismissial.
Sound like serious manipulation to me.
I am not the most knowledgeable investor, really haven't made much money on any stock. But the recent emails reek of manipulating to me. Even the signed name of "Charlie Gerhardt".
Most "Charlie's" are in reality a "Charles". If I am signing something, I don't use a nick-name for myself.
Just a thought
Interesting email from shareholder......
Mr. Gerhardt,
To begin, please keep me on the list. I've been involved in this company it seems for most of my 70 years of existence, therefore, at this late date, it is certainly not the time to abandon ship.
My name is Carroll Hagan. I have been a shareholder in this company since 1997. I currently own 4,657,979 shares of Superwipes. (SPWP) I owned about 710,000 shares of Comtech Consolidated Group, Inc. (CCGI) prior to Walter Davis's 50-1 reverse split of November 2001 and before he changed the name to Summit (SMNC). After the split I had roughly 14,000 shares at a cost to me of about $225,000. I did not purchase any additional stock in the SMNC or SPWP until Mario Quenneville became the majority shareholder in March/April of 2002 with 65% of SMNC stock. When he came on board I talked with him by phone and visited him and found that he had good products, good salemanship, he knew what he wanted to do, seemed to have the abiltiy to perform, and, above all he seemed to be trustworthy and honest. I then started buying additional shares in SMNC/SPWP because I was convinced that Mario was in charge. Totally in Charge. Davis and the old SMNC Board had resigned in July and August of 2002 and I thought we were finally in good, trusting, honest, hard working hands and mind of a dedicated man.
Mario signed Barielle to sell Superwipes products. It was the first time since Davis took over CCGI, that there was ever any "real" products. "Real" manufacturing. "Real" shipping. "Real" income from sales. Not much, but it was a start. And Barielle was happy with his products. The kept re-ordering Mario's products. Mario was also going to go on TV Shoppers Network to sell Superwipes products. He went to cosmetic shows, and 98% of the stores, 65 in total, at the show signed up for his products. Including Walmart, Target, CVS, etc. This was tremendous. For the first time I felt we were going to make it, big time.
So what happend on August 20th 2002 to cause Davis to, in my opinion, unlawfully file for Bankruptcy? My understanding of his reason to do so was because on that same day Sam Little got a judgement against SMNC for, I believe, $600K and Davis, maybe in a state of rage, walked right across the street and put SMNC into Chapter 11 Bankruptcy! But, Mr. Gerhardt, how could he just do this on his own when he really wasn't an Officer of SMNC at that time, and certainly wasn't the major shareholder. Also, he obviously didn't have the approval of the new Board of Directors who had replaced the resigned Board of Directors. How could this ever have happend!
It happened because the court has never addressed the very important issue of whether Walter Davis had the absolute authority to put SMNC in bankruptcy. It ws at the late date of February 17th 2005 that UST attorney Ellen Hickman,was the first to recognize the real reason this company is in bankruptcy when she filed the motion to Appoint a Chapter 11 Turstee on February 17, 2005. In Paragraph 14 of Miss Hickman's motion states, and I quote: "The UST would argue that the dipute arising from the sale and transfer of stock in the Debtor that caused the filing of this Bankruptcy originally in August 2002, has continued and caused the reopening of the case in August 2004, and again in January 2005. A disinterested third party should be appointed by as a Chapter 11 trustee to take control of the Debtor and to once an for all resolve the dispute over the stock in the Debtor, rather then contiue to resort to the Bankruptcy court to enfore agreements between a creditor/stockholder and the debtor."
With all due respect, I believe that you did not look into what this stock dispute between Quenneville and Davis, is all about. Which is indeed what Ms Ellen Hickman, UST Attorney is referring to in Paragraph 14 of her motion. You confirm that when you stated in your motion in "Response to Mario's Quenneville's Emergency motion to Dismiss Chapter 11" of October 12, 2005, via email to all of us. In paragraph 1 thereof, I quote: "Trustee is without sufficient knowledge or information to either admit or deny these allegations contained in paragraphs 1-43 of Mr Quennevilles motion." The motion herein referred to is Mario's "Motion to Dismiss the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy" mailed to the court on/or about October 11, 2005, along with an email copy to you and the rest of us on that same day. In that Motion to Dismiss Mario states through paragraphs 1-43 the real reason why he and we believe we should not be in Bankruptcy today.
With all due respect Mr Gerhardt, the time frame from March 26, 2002 to August 20, 2002 is at the very heart of this matter. Did Walter Davis have the aurthority to put SMNC into Chapter11 Bankruptcy. Who was indeed the major shareholder on that day, Quenneville or Davis. Who was in charge of SMNC on that day, Quenneville or Davis. Did Davis obtain approval from the existing Board of Directors before he acted so arbitrarily. This is the QUESTION that must be answerd before any more damage is done to Mario and Superwipes shareholders.
From what I know about these matters there is a gross miscarriage of justice being committed here by the court and by you at this very minute. This miscarriage of justice has escalated this matter to a point that now forces you to confiscate Mario warehouse and to auction off everything that belongs to Mario. Seems a little drastic dosen't it! Under the circumstances. At least, until we know who had the authority on August 20, 2002. Please step back a minute, give us the opprotunity to show you and the court what happened between March 26, 2002 and August 20, 2002
From where I sit, and I was there during all this entire time, Mario did not cause this problem. He may have added to it once he found out that Davis put the company in Bankruptcy, but he did not cause the problem we face today. In my opinion, Davis did. Everything that Mario has worked for most of his life to achieve financial success for himself, his family and the shareholders is in that warehouse, and everything in that warehouse is therefore the shareholders last and final chance to get anything out of this mess that we find ourselves in today.
I respectfully request that you please show some compassion here. That you reconsider this most drastic action of taking Mario's assets. I also believe that you must know that anything in that warehouse is of no use to anyone else except to Mario and the Superwipes shareholders. I ask you to please meet with us shareholders to see if we can help resolve these matters so everyone who is at financial risk can at the very least get a fair resolution to this matter.
I am at your disposal to help resolve this matter.
Carroll Hagan
Waik
Hey what gives? I never recieved the e-mails you guys talk about from the trustee,Charlie or Mario.The stock pps rises & falls on these e-mails.Not transparent at all is my point.Shouldn't the SEC hear about this stuff?
mario sent email with public records already filed with the court....not the same as sending email that as trustee he is the only person privy too info...and will chapter 7 the company...imo.....that stinks of manipulation of price and not illeagle actions...imo
Zatoichi -I hear you man, but think about what you are saying. Marios email wasnt publically transparent either...
You dont want to add gas to the fire... his email took it up -then charlies took it back down... Wait to see what happens-
Personally, I feel that as mario said- charlie is favoring davis side - but from all the DD Ive been able to do about this company - if WD has any "say" in this company it is minimal - the only thing that needs to be proven is that Davis did in fact seperate from the company back in 02... If mario can prove that he did... and davis cannot prove he didnt... davis then had no business reopening this claim and is will be dismissed... That is the bottom line here is it not?
I gave you some wrong info....there is a change in the bankruptcy law on monday for corporations too... --but it just concerns the amount of time that they have to reorg in a chap-11 and gives execs less ability to keep anything after the company goes under...
TAKI, we still should first exhaust all available remedies.
Complaints to the appropriate authorities are in order.
First, we should contact the SEC. The email that did send the stock price down might have been informative, but it is clear that the communication was not truly public and therefore not transparent.
Second we should contact Federal Court Authorities about the trustee and the way the case is being handled. If the suspitions of corruption are true then the FBI needs to investigate this case.
Regarding the first point. Lebed was dinged by Arthur Levitt chair of the SEC. If anything the trustee is wrong as that kid was wrong. Moreover the trustee was in a position to act and his comments actually had gravity.
Regarding the second point, Alcee Hastings was a Federal Judge in Florida who was impeached and convicted (with a completely circumstantial casse) for misconduct. The charges were mmore transparently investigated and Hastings had some level of vindication. But this judge might have had a clear line of misconduct that might not be circumstantial.
What we have are facts that are favorable for our interests.
We should act on those facts.
To whit: 1) An alledged minority debt holder throws the company into BK. This is ridiculous.
2) The issue as to whether or not there is outstanding debt with WD is up in the air and appears to be very doubtful.
3) The call for liquidation is both ill advised and premature. That is being extremely generous.
We are all looking at the Federal Courts possibly being a party to a swindle. The motion by Mario Queeneville on behalf of the rest of us and himself, should be dealt with first. The issue of liquidation taking place and WD getting another set of compensation is more than wrong; it is absolutely shameful. There is no good reason why we should be furthur subsidising WD on this point or any way shape or form.
The whole issue of BK when all available remedies were not exhausted and the dubious actions of the trustee have truly gone beyond the pale.
TAKI, thank you very much for your efforts. The fact that this issue might well come to an end is why I am being more active.
Take heart fellow longs, this issue is no longer just a BK case but also an SEC case. Fraud is not something taken likely with the SEC or the financial markets.
I just had a talk with my Legal Expert over 20 in Banko Courts
and second man in Jail4Judges,to Ron Branson.
I know him for 4 years.He is no kids play,and knows the Law better than most Lawyers.
http://www.jail4judges.org/national_002.htm
Logs Below that took place yesterday and today.
Yesterday log first.
LE:we can submit a plan Taki.
Taki: tell me
LE:[5:44 PM]: we have to submit a plan that provides money for the creditors and shareholders.
LE:court sytem protects all "the brothers"
shareholders need to organize,
and submit a professional plan
or they will get f.
mario needs to get on board or loose all.
I know how the courts work.
do you know how many judges have been impeached in 100 years
14.We need jail 4 judges and fast.Before this things go wild.
LE:I am telling you, i know the system better than most lawyers,if we want to get even, we need to orginize and have a plan.
Below log took place today.
Takis:Why in you opinion CG send out the letter to shareholders?
LE:trial ballon,test the waters,see who will be a problem in liquidation,then let shareholders hang themselves.
you are providing him a roadmap to make up his liquidation plan.
LE:when at war,surprise is the main element, no one listens,
and that is why very few win, the bad guys know how it works,
the good guys are clueless, think system will protect them,
same system that is f them.
Takis:so on purpose he send out e-mails to shareholders pocker game to see reaction?
LE:yup yes.now you are getting it.also finding out who is the problem,then indentify that person raising hell and puting mis information into internet, then prepare paperwork to dis credit them to judge.
Takis: Unreal,if that is what he did
LE: yes big game and big money.
welcome to the real world.
Takis:So in 20 years you have worked in Banko courts.What you make of it??
LE:shareholders mean shit in a means test,the only concern to the court right now is
they do not care
they do not have to care
the shareholders mean nothing at this point in the test
i know this makes no sense taki you have to trust me on this
i could read for 30 minutes and tell youexactly what is going on
Taki:You are in these business 20 years, you are the Expert
LE:my expert opinion tells me someone pissed off trustee.
and the judge is tired of this case, new rules take efect monday,and there is many new test to payment of debt.
might even be in marios best interest to dissmiss and refile in new venue like florida,just an idea.
LE:this is why marion and i should talk.the fact he does not want to talk , tells me something is f up. why would you not take free advice from someone that has done this for 20 years? you tell me.I am all f ears.
Takis: I know He needs to call you.
LE:no shit, i will even call him on my nickle. no obligation
Takis:You know the law more than most Lawyers
LE:I talked with the head guy at jail4Judges,today an hour ago,Ron Branson.
Takis:End?
LE:we are doing great in SD,and we might have a big donation coming.
Takis: Get the Job done.
LE:no shit.stop the madness.
taki have mario call me,or email me.lets save this f thing.
Takis:okay.If pass the Jail for Judges in SD,what state is next?
LE: next nevada i think.just have mario email me simple deal.we talk 20 minutes maybe i can help.Tell him to call me,
or email me.
Takis:what is your position in Jail4Judges?
LE:I am second man in system.
Takis:WOW.
Some crooks out there read how they became toast.http://www.nlpc.org/olap/UCU3/05_06_19.htm
Union Fund Trustees Settle Members' Suits for $16 Million
Members of three unions settled lawsuits against their pension fund trustees Mar. 7 in a case involving allegations of pension fraud by Capital Consultants LLC, a Portland, Or., fund management firm. Members of two more unions plan to settle suits against their trustees by mid-Mar. The total recovery of all five actions is $16 million.
Capital Consultants had $927 million under its management when federal agents seized its assets in Sept. 2000. Funds from Taft-Hartley plans and other union plans accounted for $407 million of the high-risk private investments, many of which may now be nearly worthless. The Dep't of Labor estimates that the union funds lost more than $100 million due to risky investments.
Since the firm went into receivership, many suits have been filed seeking to recoup the losses. The civil lawsuits fall into three basic categories: those filed by federal regulators against Capital Consultants, those filed by the union pension funds against Capital Consultants and their legal and financial advisers, and those filled by union members against their own pension fund trustees. Criminal charges also have been filed against Capital Consultants's managers and an ex-boss of the Laborers' Int'l Union of N. Am.
The suits against the fund trustees allege breach of fiduciary duty, said Dan Feinberg, an Oakland, Cal., attorney representing members of three unions. The three unions are the Oregon Laborers Union, Idaho Laborers Union, and Office & Prof'l Employees Int'l Union Local 11 based in Portland. All the settlements are funded by the funds' fiduciary liability policies and not by individual trustees. None of the settlements admits any liability on the part of the trustees.
The settlements with the two Laborers' unions were filed Mar. 7 with the U.S. Dist. Court for the Dist. of Oregon. A similar settlement for members of Local 11 will be filed by mid-Mar., Feinberg said. Feinberg said that the settlements call for a payment of $ 4 million to the trust funds administered by the Oregon Laborers Union, which lost an estimated $40 million in investments. The Idaho Laborers Union, which had a loss of $10 million, will receive $1.9 million, and Local 11, which had a loss of $10 million, will receive just under $1 million.
Another settlement was reached Mar.7 in the same federal court with members of plans administered by Portland-based Local 290 of the United Ass'n of Plumbers & Pipe Fitters. It calls for a payment of $3.7 million. The fund has $29 million at risk due to the investment losses at Capital Consultants, said Chrys Martin, a Portland attorney representing Local 290's members.
Finally , by mid-March, members of the Eighth Dist. of the Int'l Bhd. of Elec. Workers are scheduled to settle a suit against trustees of their trust funds, said Seattle attorney Richard Birmingham who is representing the members. The Eighth District includes Idaho, Utah, and Colorado. That settlement is expected to be for about $6 million. The trust has $50 million at risk due to investment losses at Capital Consultants.
Union trusts that have lost money through their investments with Capital Consultants are expected to recoup more of their losses in the months ahead in addition to the payments from the suits against the fund trustees. Negotiations initiated by the trusts appear to have resulted in a tentative settlement with some of the defendants, but the details of the settlement have yet to be approved by the court or made public. Also, the receiver has been liquidating some of the assets held by Capital Consultants, and proceeds from such sales will be going to trusts and other investors. [BNA 3/11/02]
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If he is found in bed with Davis,all the records phone calls
discoveries ETC will come up.As for Davis,ahhhhhhhh what is coming.
TAKI....
This guy "Charlie" the Trustee is in bed with WD. IMHO Any legal action should be started with him. IMHO Just the emails to shareholders should be a clue. Very unprofessional.
I believe someone is compiling a list of people willing to take legal action here. If you are seriously considering or have started we should all get our ducks in a row before proceeding.
Waik
Read:In a suit against her trustee
http://www.shulaw.com/securities/successes.asp
FIDUCIARY FRAUD
The firm represented the beneficiary of a trust in a suit against her trustee alleging that the trustee breached his fiduciary duty by, among other things, taking kickbacks on the sale of trust property, diverting trust assets, and double billing for services. After a four-day trial, the Court ordered a return of funds to our client. Upon appeal, the Massachusetts Appeals Court terminated the trust and turned over its substantial real estate holdings to our client.
That might be true.
But we do not have proof.
Though it is clear that CG's decisions lack logic, coherence and are without justification.
It is a series of dubious decisions.
We should never have been put in this position.
Negative outcomes are what should happen for WD, the judge and CG as well as all the bashers. Fines, censure and other legal sanctions are appropriate.
Why WD has NOT been labelled a vexous litagant is beyond me.
Good God almighty! This is absolutely absurd!
Moreover Mario has the vast majority of the debt. This is not about 51 percent but more like (very conservatively) 75 percent.
Much more likely Davis does not really have a claim for even a penney more.
We have gone from "Theater of the absurd" to something Kafkaesque
This is the biggest GOAT F. I have seen . The court is seeming to be wagged by the tail! If this thing goes the wrong way we should all sue the pants and socks off of walter davis and his croaked attorneys. AS I told a friend a couple of weeks ago when croaks get sued they run like hell or curl up and play dead.I have owned stock in this company for years.By what I can see davis and his cronnies are try tom get something for nothing. Mario has been nieve about this and hopefully has wakened up. Don't trust even your own lawyer to protect your interest ... Because it's not their money!Make sure the court informs you and your attorney.
Let's have Charlie respond to this:
SEC rules apply to everyone. Period.
The communications that were sent via email were outside public access. That means that there is a lack of transparency. This does violate SEC rules for publicly traded companies.
To all other stockholders:
Please examine the BK rules and procedures. That will not be terribly enlightening but it is a start. If anyone knows of people who are involved in BK (presumably as former or current trustees, attorneys with BK experience or accountants with BK experience) you should be able to shed light as to whether or not we were experiencing best practices from CG.
If CG is deficient in any way then we, as shareholders, have a right to complain.
One might ask to whom?
Answer: the Chief Administrator of the Federal Courts. John Roberts who was recently named, confirmed and sworn in as Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court.
The flimsy nature of this whole mess should be brought to light. Seriously, a minority stock holder and minority debt holder bringing about BK? Give me a break. This is so ridiculous that it would be laughable if it were not true and had real consequences for the rest of us.
When we get enough information we should consider filing a complaint with CJ Roberts and do what we can to make CG and WD miserable via lawful and ethical due process.
SPWP.And the Answer to this Gerhardt Character.How do you like the answer?
Subject: Charlie: Answer This...
Date: 10/14/2005 5:02:09 PM Eastern Standard Time
Mr. Gerhardt,
Your last email said nothing to the effect of the current court's ruling. Are you trying to mislead these investors by insinuating certain outcomes?
The only factual information you have provided in regard to the case is that the Settlement Agreement was not approved by the court. That says NOTHING in regard to liquidation, and is indeed a good outcome for Superwipes.
Tell us investors this: how do you get paid?
Shareholder
Cc: 'Quenneville, Mario '
Subject: RE: Superwipes NOT Liquidated!!! Good News! Bankruptcy
Sensitivity: Confidential
Let me respond:
Attached my appointment and I am in charge of the Debtor’s Estate. Also Attached are the Debtor’s Schedules for your reference.
I answer to the Court.
Mario has been relieved of his duties and instructed to forward me the keys and web page access codes.
This is the Bankruptcy address http://www.txs.uscourts.gov/index.html and the case number is 02-39372 . Check it out for yourselves.
Charlie Gerhardt
How about this for a newsflash:
This is a publicly traded company.
As such we are entitled to a lot more transparency than a comment that goes like this:
"I answer to the court".
Guess what? CG also answers to any question relating to SEC regulations too.
I do not make up the rules. I only expect that everyone has to do the same.
It gets worse...this from Charlie...
Let me respond:
Attached my appointment and I am in charge of the Debtor’s Estate. Also Attached are the Debtor’s Schedules for your reference.
I answer to the Court.
Mario has been relieved of his duties and instructed to forward me the keys and web page access codes.
This is the Bankruptcy address http://www.txs.uscourts.gov/index.html and the case number is 02-39372 . Check it out for yourselves.
Charlie Gerhardt
so much for a trustee being impartial
Marios first email, if i remember right, said that he felt CG was leaning or sided/biased toward WD and didnt feel he was working in the best intrests of all involved anymore....and that is why mario went to ask the judge that the case to be dismissed because he knew that the split/new company settlement wouldnt work out with the trustee leaning toward wd side... I would vote that this had nothing to do with CG being competent to do the job or not... shady shady
zat...
I think this explains why the BK was submitted in TX and not Fl. CG is obviously in someone's pocket.
IMHO
Waik
That is entirely possible. But unless we get facts we can only guess.
But Mario's/our motion to dismiss makes clear that CG has either not acted appropriately or competantly.
badbesy, point well taken.
I forgot my own guidelines.
On the other hand we are likely to get that last laugh.
P.S. bufalobill91 and TAKI thank you for your replies.
I have no doubts that what you posted and reposted are entirely correct.
can we say bribed? sure i knew you could eom
just like the trustee knew for sure that his email would cause the decline today... so.. who knows...
zat....dont use the reply button to paid basers.. dont use their handle exactly....and dont let em get under your skin..all you are doing is adding to their pay....ie boccccrdee...oshsheturd..agrobbboli...et all....not to mention the new ones that showed up last few days...good luck
Not to be contrarian but dont go down that road - there is nothing saying that it was not them or the "investor" at .005 that sold yesterday on the pop up to get back some of his funds... mario didnt have to show us all that info--- he couldve kept it quiet and just submitted it to the judge and let the chips fall where the may....He knew that would drum up some intrest and get some volume going again...
I do still believe he is working in our best intrests-- but im sure his best intrests are still first in his mind. If we liquidate- I bet he loses the rights to the formula. He is what looks to be the companies largest creditor -but is only owed 300k or so, the forumla is booked at $1mil...It would have to be sold as an assett...and divided amoung the creditors starting with mario...
Dont get me wrong--Im happy that he sent that info to us--it was nice to have the light go on to get us out of the dark after sitting for the last 6 months...
Hopefully the judge will rule in our favor... If not, my cert will make a nice wall hanging above my computer... a reminder to do more DD about a companys past before I jump in with both feet....
SPWP new E-mail Alert:It is not over.A good win so far per E-mailer.His E-mail goes out it seems to 700 people.Man oh Man
Lotsa people involved here.
Read fresh E-mail/
Subject: Superwipes NOT Liquidated!!! Good News!
Date: 10/14/2005 3:13:27 PM Eastern Standard Time
To All,
To avoid confusion, the company has NOT been liquidated. Do not let Mr. Gerhardt's emails confuse you. Mario is doing well so far and has one major win under his belt by getting the Settlement Agreement thrown out. Go Mario!!!
From Motion to Dismiss: Mr. Quenneville believes that the Trustee will not and did not present this case properly to this court and believes that the Trustee will not provide the entire information to this court; this Chapter 11 Debtor cannot confirm a plan or continue the operations of the Debtor. In the event that the Court does not approve of the Trustee’s Compromise and Settlement Agreement, Mario Quenneville and the shareholders believes that it is in the best interest of the estate for the above referred Chapter 11 case be dismissed and to continue its operations normally.
Regards,
JRF
In all fairness, this might have been the first time the judge has seen all the issues laid out. This brief might be the most comprehensive motion that this issue has seen.
Similarly the charges have gravity and the judge might be stuck between a rock and a hard place if he rules in favor of the plaintiff.
The more I think about it, the more I have more faith in Mario. Mario could have easily had his friends and family buy the stock before the news came out. We all saw how the stock shot up after the motion was filed. My observations about this stock was that before the motion to dismiss was filed, the stock was very thinly traded. In the ten trading days before the motion was announced, five days had no activity.
Once again, it might well be the case that the end the humans have been looking for is almost at hand.
Oshemae Gerhardt...
When was Zato lying? Then or now?? Either way, it's now documented...Taki, take note!
By: Boccardi
14 Oct 2005, 02:22 PM EDT
Msg. 5938 of 5939
Jump to msg. #
When was...
...Zato lieing? Now, about having sold over 1.5 years ago or then about being a shareholder?
17 Nov 2004, 05:08 PM EST
If the stock tanks, a lot less smack from me. The story aint over yet. Anyone who talks smack now, is just showing how clueless they are about finances, money, pinks and the like. This goes for both bashers and pumpers. Though pumpers tend to keep mum and just gush over good news. http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=SMNC&read=8492
17 Nov 2004, 04:03 PM EST
Buying in when the issues are in flux might seem bad. But looking at the current price, accepting uncertainty for a low price seems to be a good bet to me. Just my opinion. http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=SMNC&read=8490
Posted by: zatoichi
In reply to: Oshemae who wrote msg# 1391
Date:10/13/2005 5:00:31 PM
Post #of 1418
Because I am in the black.
I sold off all the shares I had over a year and a half ago when the stock was at 2.5 cents a share. I made a little money but kept watching the stock.
I bought back into it a few months ago.....
So I am now in the black. :)
its all up to Marvin...bottom line. Kind of makes all this a waste of time because if the judge wouldve done his job the first time and made a final decision in the first filing this couldnt have been reopened...
Educational,things will change;You should all read this:
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THE TIME...August 8-14, 2005
THE PLACESturgis Motorcycle Rally
DETAILSVolunteer signature gatherers needed. Contact Bill Stegmeier, South Dakota JIC.
At the event visit Ron Branson at the J.A.I.L. booth.
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SPWP,update,and about trustee.Looks crooket.This E-mail I got went out to I see about 700 E-mail Addresses.So Mr.Trustee took sides???To destroy the shareholders?
Subject: Charlie's Credibility
Date: 10/14/2005 2:16:03 PM Eastern Standard Time
To All Investors,
What is this Charlie Gerhardt trying to do? He couldn't get the court to approve a Settlement Agreement, so he is now trying to liquidate the company? Not a chance. He and Mr. Davis are having trouble in court because Mario is in the right and the court sees that clearly. His last set of emails are a last ditched effort to thicken his wallet. This sounds very shady and downright illegal in regard to his apparent favoring of Walter Davis' position in the company. Mr. Gerhardt, check your integrity.
Respectfully,
4,875,000 shares
Oshemae, it might not be likely, but it is a card in the deck.:)
Just because you think (hope) it is unlikely, it does not follow it is without foundation.:)
Guess what? I feel pretty good sending in this post.
It must be pretty good. :)
why in the hell is the trustee emailing the stockholders??? Isnt he a "court appointed employee"
And if he should be contacting us--why has he been silent for the last 6 months? until today--- 1 day after mario filed those papers (to go over his head) addressed to the judge???
Smells fishy to me again.... nothing but shady stuff happening with this... imo mario got involved with a bunch of crooks way back when and they have haunted him (and us now) ever since...
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Posted by: ballyhooo
In reply to: TAKI who wrote msg# 428062 Date:10/14/2005 2:08:12 PM
Post #of 428112
ORDER DISMISSING CHAPTER 11 CASE
Came on for consideration the Motion to Dismiss Chapter 11 Case filed by Mario Quenneville, on SUMMIT NATIONAL CONSOLIDATION, INC., and it appearing to the Court that the Chapter 11 filing was inappropriate and without authority. Further, it appears that all parties entitled to receive notice have received a copy of the Motion. It is the Court’s opinion that said Motion should be granted. It is
ORDERED that Mario Quenneville’s, CEO and majority shareholder of SUMMIT NATIONAL CONSOLIDATION GROUP, INC., Motion to Dismiss Chapter 11 is hereby GRANTED; it is further
ORDERED that the Debtor, SUMMIT NATIONAL CONSOLIDATION GROUP, INC., Case No. 02-39373 is hereby DISMISSED; it is further
ORDERED that the U. S. Trustee is to pay the outstanding rent for the Debtor out of the funds he collected in this matter so the debtor can continue its operations.
ORDERED that the Court finds the Corporate Headquarters for the Debtor were transferred
Pre-petition to Florida and for that reason any further dealings with the Debtor must be pursued
in the Federal District Court for the District of Tampa Florida.
SIGNED this __________ day of October, 2005.
______________________________________
UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY JUDGE
MARVIN ISGUR
LOL Zato...no funnier than your naive suggestion...
Posted by: zatoichi
In reply to: Oshemae who wrote msg# 1418
Date:10/14/2005 1:36:11 PM
Post #of 1432
Hey TAKI!
Remember your feelings regarding a law suit.
I have one for you. Tortous interferance with a private concern.
Yep the bashers sure qualify for that treatment. Maybe a bunch of us can take these lower forms of life to court and then the cleaners. :)
If you do not want to do that, just smile and contemplate the thought.
I heard that the judge adjorned til Mon AM, anyone else
Well.Things will be changing for the Judges in the future,and court system.Read the whole thing.Very educational of what is coming.
http://www.businessreform.com/article.php?articleID=11500
New initiative in South Dakota holds judges accountable
September 15, 2005
by Marilyn Barnewall
An organization by the name of J.A.I.L. (Judicial Accountability Initiative Law) is shaking-up the status quo in South Dakota.
What is happening in the Mount Rushmore State may end up being of great benefit to all of us… unless you live in a state with higher quality judiciary than is apparent in most other states.
We’ve all heard the stories on cable news (you’d never hear them on network news). A man rapes and kidnaps an underage girl and is sentenced to a few months in prison (despite his criminal history).
Children die because social workers say they have checked on foster kids in the system but, in reality have not seen them in months… even over a year. Does anyone pay for it? Too often, no.
In my home state of Colorado, a judge has dismissed complaints before discovery was even completed. In one law suit filed by a woman whose television interview by a major network was poorly edited, the words that came out of the woman’s mouth on national television placed her in violation of the Patriot Act. She could have been put in prison for what she did not say. The edits, however, made it appear she did say. If this is not a serious lawsuit deserving of discovery, I do not know what is.
This same judge awarded joint custody of a child to a woman who has no legal connection to the child in what appears to be an attempt to get around Colorado’s ban on same-sex adoptions. In that same case, this judge prohibited the birth mother from teaching her child certain religious beliefs about homosexuality.
In another case, this judge mocked a mother seeking sole custody of her children by asking, “Why does it bother you so much that he watches pornography?” (referring to her ex-husband). Maybe it was because the father was watching the porn online with his very young son… and appears to have (how do I say this gracefully?) “relieved” himself during the documented (by a third party witness) episode.
This guy has been so bad that State Representative Greg Brophy appealed to the State’s House Judiciary Committee to impeach the judge. The Committee voted against the impeachment, 8-3.
How can what J.A.I.L. is doing in South Dakota help Coloradans… or, in your state? If J.A.I.L. is passed there, many people will start getting petitions signed elsewhere.
What does the South Dakota J.A.I.L. initiative achieve if it is put on the ballot and passed?
It does precisely what its title indicates (Judicial Accountability Initiative Law). It holds the judiciary accountable for decisions not in compliance with state law. It says, “No immunity shall extend to any judge of this State for any deliberate violation of law, fraud, or conspiracy, intentional violation of due process of law, deliberate disregard of material facts, judicial acts without jurisdiction, blocking of a lawful conclusion of a case, or any deliberate violation of the Constitution of South Dakota or the United States, notwithstanding Common Law, or any other contrary statute.”
The initiative then goes on to explain that a thirteen-member Special Grand Jury with statewide jurisdiction having power to judge both law and fact shall be established. To present the facts to the Special Grand Jury, funds will be made available to retain non-governmental advisors, special prosecutors and investigators.
A letter written to a columnist for the Argus Leader Newspaper in Sioux Falls, S.D. asks a reasonable questions: “Can you think of any reason why a man or woman, just because he or she is a judge, should be above the law? Can you think of any reason why anyone should not be accountable for willful and/or malicious acts in office?”
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The Argus Leader has obviously taken a “we like the status quo” approach to the J.A.I.L. initiative. Editorials have been written… and answered. The newspaper recently did a poll asking its readers: “Should people unhappy with a judge’s ruling have the authority to appeal to a grand jury for the right to sue the judge?”
The author of the J.A.I.L. initiative, Ron Branson, says, “We are supposed to be a nation of laws, and not of men. To be able to appeal a decision because one is “unhappy” with the decision is to convert our laws into emotional feelings, opening the door to every kind of whimsical appeal.
Branson points out that even though the newspaper’s question totally misstates what the J.A.I.L. initiative does, 49.2% of the people polled said “Yes” to the question. He says with equal fervor that he hopes the people of South Dakota are not so ignorant as to vote to totally overturn a system based on established law. That is not the objective of J.A.I.L. The purpose is to get the judiciary to stop writing laws from the bench by making legal decisions not supported by the law.
“My problem is when judges act outside and beyond their discretion. For instance, passing laws from the bench (judicial activism) is not within their jurisdiction,” Branson says. He points out that just as umpires do not have the right to change the rules of the game, or apply different rules to different players, neither do members of the judiciary.
“My problem is with the concept that judges should be protected from liability from wrong-doing by their own self-made immunity when they choose to commit crimes or choose to disregard laws, and make up new laws as they see fit. I have a problem with judges being above the laws when they are to be under the law.”
Those are the things, Branson believes, that South Dakotans will have the chance to correct in a legal system that many Americans feel has gone astray from the powers and purpose given it by the people.
I have read the J.A.I.L. initiative and believe it is written in a way that simply holds judges liable when they willingly, knowingly and deliberately choose to violate the Constitution and the laws they have sworn to uphold. Though the preceding words are taken from a letter written by Branson to the Argus Leader columnist, the so totally represent my feelings after reading the initiative, I hope Ron Branson will not object to my use of them.
Many of my readers have expressed concerns to me about judicial activism and lack of accountability. If you are one of them, you can contact Ron Branson at VictoryUSA@jail4judges.org. Branson and his wife traveled to South Dakota, helping get signatures on petitions.
It is amazing what a few dedicated people can achieve. Whenever people tell me the future of America is out of their hands, I always suggest they find 100 people to walk door-to-door getting a petition signed that will get a particular issue on the ballot.
The South Dakotans involved in this effort are doing just that… and they are taking control of their own futures in the process.
God bless individualism! It’s what makes America great!
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Marilyn Barnewall, in 1978, was the first female to be named vice president in charge of a major loan and deposit portfolio at Denver’s largest bank. She started the nation’s first private bank, resigned to start her own firm and consulted for banks of all sizes in America and other countries. In June 1992, Forbes dubbed Barnewall “the dean of American private banking.”
Author of several banking texts, she has written extensively for the American Banker, Bank Marketing Magazine, and was U.S. consulting editor for Private Banker International (Lafferty Publications, London/Dublin).
This article originally appeared in the Grand Junction Free Press. Marilyn can be reached at marilynmacg@juno.com.
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Well.Things will be changing for the Judges in the future,and court system.Read the whole thing.Very educational of what is coming.
http://www.businessreform.com/article.php?articleID=11500
New initiative in South Dakota holds judges accountable
September 15, 2005
by Marilyn Barnewall
An organization by the name of J.A.I.L. (Judicial Accountability Initiative Law) is shaking-up the status quo in South Dakota.
What is happening in the Mount Rushmore State may end up being of great benefit to all of us… unless you live in a state with higher quality judiciary than is apparent in most other states.
We’ve all heard the stories on cable news (you’d never hear them on network news). A man rapes and kidnaps an underage girl and is sentenced to a few months in prison (despite his criminal history).
Children die because social workers say they have checked on foster kids in the system but, in reality have not seen them in months… even over a year. Does anyone pay for it? Too often, no.
In my home state of Colorado, a judge has dismissed complaints before discovery was even completed. In one law suit filed by a woman whose television interview by a major network was poorly edited, the words that came out of the woman’s mouth on national television placed her in violation of the Patriot Act. She could have been put in prison for what she did not say. The edits, however, made it appear she did say. If this is not a serious lawsuit deserving of discovery, I do not know what is.
This same judge awarded joint custody of a child to a woman who has no legal connection to the child in what appears to be an attempt to get around Colorado’s ban on same-sex adoptions. In that same case, this judge prohibited the birth mother from teaching her child certain religious beliefs about homosexuality.
In another case, this judge mocked a mother seeking sole custody of her children by asking, “Why does it bother you so much that he watches pornography?” (referring to her ex-husband). Maybe it was because the father was watching the porn online with his very young son… and appears to have (how do I say this gracefully?) “relieved” himself during the documented (by a third party witness) episode.
This guy has been so bad that State Representative Greg Brophy appealed to the State’s House Judiciary Committee to impeach the judge. The Committee voted against the impeachment, 8-3.
How can what J.A.I.L. is doing in South Dakota help Coloradans… or, in your state? If J.A.I.L. is passed there, many people will start getting petitions signed elsewhere.
What does the South Dakota J.A.I.L. initiative achieve if it is put on the ballot and passed?
It does precisely what its title indicates (Judicial Accountability Initiative Law). It holds the judiciary accountable for decisions not in compliance with state law. It says, “No immunity shall extend to any judge of this State for any deliberate violation of law, fraud, or conspiracy, intentional violation of due process of law, deliberate disregard of material facts, judicial acts without jurisdiction, blocking of a lawful conclusion of a case, or any deliberate violation of the Constitution of South Dakota or the United States, notwithstanding Common Law, or any other contrary statute.”
The initiative then goes on to explain that a thirteen-member Special Grand Jury with statewide jurisdiction having power to judge both law and fact shall be established. To present the facts to the Special Grand Jury, funds will be made available to retain non-governmental advisors, special prosecutors and investigators.
A letter written to a columnist for the Argus Leader Newspaper in Sioux Falls, S.D. asks a reasonable questions: “Can you think of any reason why a man or woman, just because he or she is a judge, should be above the law? Can you think of any reason why anyone should not be accountable for willful and/or malicious acts in office?”
Subscribe to our FREE weekly
e-newsletter!
Read our Privacy Policy.
The Argus Leader has obviously taken a “we like the status quo” approach to the J.A.I.L. initiative. Editorials have been written… and answered. The newspaper recently did a poll asking its readers: “Should people unhappy with a judge’s ruling have the authority to appeal to a grand jury for the right to sue the judge?”
The author of the J.A.I.L. initiative, Ron Branson, says, “We are supposed to be a nation of laws, and not of men. To be able to appeal a decision because one is “unhappy” with the decision is to convert our laws into emotional feelings, opening the door to every kind of whimsical appeal.
Branson points out that even though the newspaper’s question totally misstates what the J.A.I.L. initiative does, 49.2% of the people polled said “Yes” to the question. He says with equal fervor that he hopes the people of South Dakota are not so ignorant as to vote to totally overturn a system based on established law. That is not the objective of J.A.I.L. The purpose is to get the judiciary to stop writing laws from the bench by making legal decisions not supported by the law.
“My problem is when judges act outside and beyond their discretion. For instance, passing laws from the bench (judicial activism) is not within their jurisdiction,” Branson says. He points out that just as umpires do not have the right to change the rules of the game, or apply different rules to different players, neither do members of the judiciary.
“My problem is with the concept that judges should be protected from liability from wrong-doing by their own self-made immunity when they choose to commit crimes or choose to disregard laws, and make up new laws as they see fit. I have a problem with judges being above the laws when they are to be under the law.”
Those are the things, Branson believes, that South Dakotans will have the chance to correct in a legal system that many Americans feel has gone astray from the powers and purpose given it by the people.
I have read the J.A.I.L. initiative and believe it is written in a way that simply holds judges liable when they willingly, knowingly and deliberately choose to violate the Constitution and the laws they have sworn to uphold. Though the preceding words are taken from a letter written by Branson to the Argus Leader columnist, the so totally represent my feelings after reading the initiative, I hope Ron Branson will not object to my use of them.
Many of my readers have expressed concerns to me about judicial activism and lack of accountability. If you are one of them, you can contact Ron Branson at VictoryUSA@jail4judges.org. Branson and his wife traveled to South Dakota, helping get signatures on petitions.
It is amazing what a few dedicated people can achieve. Whenever people tell me the future of America is out of their hands, I always suggest they find 100 people to walk door-to-door getting a petition signed that will get a particular issue on the ballot.
The South Dakotans involved in this effort are doing just that… and they are taking control of their own futures in the process.
God bless individualism! It’s what makes America great!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marilyn Barnewall, in 1978, was the first female to be named vice president in charge of a major loan and deposit portfolio at Denver’s largest bank. She started the nation’s first private bank, resigned to start her own firm and consulted for banks of all sizes in America and other countries. In June 1992, Forbes dubbed Barnewall “the dean of American private banking.”
Author of several banking texts, she has written extensively for the American Banker, Bank Marketing Magazine, and was U.S. consulting editor for Private Banker International (Lafferty Publications, London/Dublin).
This article originally appeared in the Grand Junction Free Press. Marilyn can be reached at marilynmacg@juno.com.
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Waik
the pos bashers on rb keep saying its over... not from what I see...
Mario already stated that he felt the trustee is/was biased toward WD side and that is why he was filing that documents to the judge to make a final decision.
Isnt Charlie Gerhardt the trustee?? or am I mistaken?
can someone who has access to it please post the $ amoutn and size of the trades from today? Im still wondering again why the mm keeps deciding to skip over my buy order and go down to .0011
TAKI, thank you for the repost.
I forgot that part where the trustee was part of the problem.
If this really goes south, I will file a complaint with the appropriate authorities. CG should have laid low and taken his lumps for being insufficient.
The bankruptcy law changes will go into effect on oct 17 2005 they are to the best of my knowledge for personal chap7 ad chap13 bankruptcy and will not have any effect on corporations or corporate bankruptcy.. for a person to file bankrupty without have to go through the new hoops you will need to make less than 18762 for 1 person 39343 for family of 2 47115 for family of 3 or 53165 for 4 or more in the household...
otherwise you have to take a mandatory financial coundeling course and go to mandatory consumer credit counseling
nothing has anything to to with corporations as far as I can see... im sure the government will work on that one next
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