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Thanks for the detailed post. First for the record, I did not intend this board to be about sub .05 stocks. I agree under .05 is BVRY dangerous to be shorting.
AWSL was not SEC reporting. They issued the dividend to squeeze the shorts as they were under heavy attack. How do I know it was naked shorting? 8 months of RegSho compliance alerts. 1 day alone there was over 1 million shares shorted. They were short more than the float. We did find out that shareholders once they demanded that there stock not be lent out and some even took certificate delivery, it took more than 4 months to get the cert.
I remember Tim Sykes putting out news about how the restricted stock dividend was cause for the stock run up again. The well known short manipulators at thestreetsweeper also complained about it. They then attacked the company with articles of innuendoes but no real facts, but masses get manipulated easily by media, images and that sort of writing.
I know of a company that is about to do some massive awareness. If the short games start as I am sure they will, I will see if I can get them to try to Cusip trick. I will keep you posted.
Hah,no I am not a marlet maker nor do I represent one. Just because I question urban legends doesnt mean anything more than as a speculator I try to learn as much as I can.
Here is why changing the CUSIP number works ( restircted stock being issued doesnt effect this). Back in the 60's during the gog-go years physical certificates were still widely used to settle trades. as volume grew this system became very unwieldy and subject to many abuses. So the CEDE/DTC system emerged.
Say a company has 1 million free trading shares, those are in the CEDE inventory. If broker A buys 100,000 shares, and broker B sells 100,000 shares, they both have credit/debit to their accounts via CEDE. No matter what trading activity occurs, the CEDE balance is supposed to balance aganst the CEDE certificates held ,i.e. 1 million shares, which is on the books of the transfer agent of the company.However if the company for example chanegs its name ad requires a new CUSIP number, CEDE has to return "certificates" ( may be book entry which is anotehr matter) to the transfer agent in exchange for the certificates under the new CUSIP number.
The market maker often goes through a clearing agent, or the broker places traade with market maker if they are not market maker themselves, and ultimately through a clearing agent. When Reg SHO/fail to deliver reporting started one of reasons was some market makers did either through error or possibly speculation sell more shares than they brought in. Since the market makers have 3 days to settle all trades, and if I recall they can file for an extension of an additional 7 days, theoretically they could naked short sell during that period. Why wouldnt they ? (a) reduces their net working capital which reduces their ability to trade (b) they take a risk they would have to cover- and frankly most market makers simply not in the business of speculating in stocks, but insetad capturing teh spread and commissions. (c) FNRA the last few years especially since scandals involving purchases/sales on Frankfurt exchange, watches these things much closer and can fine market makers for abuses.
A bigger reason I have hard time believing maked short selling of sub $.05 stocks is CEDE/DTC f they allow an imbalance to occur, where one broker is owed 1.5 million shares for shares he bought but CEDE only has 1.0 million share son hand, CEDE has a liability.You will notice a few years ago CEDE started issuing more DTC chills on stocks- I cant prove it but my impression is one of reasons was to clear out stocks that had potential for abuses whatever the rules were.
I will take a glance at stock you mentioned, but issuing restricted stock normally is done for many reasons- a typical one is to incerase authorized shares so people can fall under the 10% or 5% thresholds ,so they either can sell shares ( as a non control person), or if SEC reporting fall under limits to report their trades.
The example you give is interesting- if a restricted stock dividend made that doesnt effect the cusip number, a cash dividend i know causes havoc if there was a short ( as the cash dividend must be paid on shares that presumably dont exist). Why stock would go up when a restricted stock dividend was declared I dont know the circumstances- coudl be (a) holder of stock about to do a promotion and wanted to sell shares but (b) wanted to keep same ownership so waited until dividend received.
Was that company a reporting company ? Out of interest what made you think the stock was naked shorted ?
Hah, I havent a clue how anyone could short a sub penny stock, and no one seems to be able to say how to do it.
I am not sure which posts you looked at but I have made positive posts too. For example I like Hecla Mining, Chester Mining, and I am currently looking into New Jersy Mining and Kalahari Greentech. So I wouldnt say all my posts begative.
Two otehr companies which I do quetion I am trying to learn more about inevstor psychology since I am somewhat new to these baords. Companies that logically I thought had no true value yet had liquidity for a time- so I figure more I understand why other people buy the better.
Market makers have to be careful, FNRA a lot stricter than they used to be. I cant imagine- and I admit I could be wrong- any market maker posting on a bulletin board.
I admit also you could be right that naked short selling occurs in penny stocks, many people believe this, I have yet though seen anything definitive that in current market this is prevalent or standard practice.
Well in fact my example. AWSL did do the same thing you suggested to offset the naked short abuse. The issued a restricted stock dividend. Twice. Each time when it was announced and when it neared the record date, the stock went back up dramatically.
The Cusip trick I do not believe works. But I have not tried it to be honest.
So are you a market maker or do you just represent one?
I just looked at your posts on the other boards. In my sampling it appears you generally are pointing out flaws in every company and I would even speculate to say you appear to be a short seller pro. Perhaps a pro trader, likely even a market maker or representing one. Given this insight it make sense why you keep referring to the naked shorting as an urban myth.
Perhaps I am wrong but I would bet on it.
the other factor is DTC/CEDE. they are supposed to balance to the transfer agent- if they dont, which did happen 10+ years ago sometime, this casues all sort sof issues tehse days previously it did happen but DTC figured out the liability they were running and cleaned up tehre act a lot mroe than a decade ago.
a company can always look at both their OBO and NOBO records and figue out where the imbalance is- and force a resolution by several means. and DTC with their arcane process of putting chills and global locks has their own ability to resolve these situations.
i am not saying there arent shady operatros who try to scam the system
but if someone were naked shorting a stock it causes an immediate imbalance on DTC records which company if they are attentive can figure out quickly with NOBO AND OBO records. These are available by broker-and by looking at over the relevant time period compared to transfer agent totals for the balance at CEDE/DTC- and can then be used to track down where the short came from.
finally a company and force a resoluton also by changing the CUSIP numberand calling in the DTC/CDE certificate,or in some instances declaring a dividend can achieve same result. So companies whining that some mysterious and nefarious naked shorting is hurting their stock do have tools to combat this.so why dont they ? because their stock is not being naked shorted, but it amakes a good story
that buyin site uses a formula that they believe shows naked shorting but it is not based on amount of shares actuallybeing shorted but some formula they have devised. ( this is what was explained to me, perhaps they do have a precise way of measuring that i am not aware of).
--just think of it, if you were running a company with massive shorting going on, would you pile ,in-change name of company thus CUSIP number to force the shorts to cover ?
an interesting discussion, yet fundamentally where is the proof this occurs ? talking to market makers they all tell me simply they are not in the business of taking risks like this though they may do so knowing a client may bail them out, or that as favor parking a trade in some fashion.
take a stock with a .03 bid and .05 ask. volume buyer comes in at 05, they figure they can sell to that buyer, and somehow cover themselves at .03- maybe they have a customer they know would sell at that price, who might do for a favor or whatever
i guess to be convinced i simply would be interested in a factual example of this.maybe there is, i just havent seen it.i have sen fail to delivers for many other reasons than someone shortng the stock- sometimes sheer inefficiency of smaller brokers for example.
and idea average market maker would run around bad mouthing a stock to drive price down ?
just out of curiosity haev you ever had this discussion with an actual market maker ?
with all respect though i appreciate your comments as this urban legend i have been hearing about for years.
I don't really trade in sub .05 stock. However the market maker shorting usually is for a short 3 days or less trade. However, what I have witnessed is some times when a big promotion starts they figure they can short and buy it back within a few days. Fairly innocent. But if the sell off that usually comes, does not come, well than they get desperate. Especially if the market is movie up.
In these situations they drag it out, they get a friendly market maker to sell them stock (short) to cover it and than start again. They keep rolling it around a number of friendly firms. I assure you this happens. There is even a term for this. "Parking a trade".
I watched on AWSL Reg SHO failed to deliver flags for 8 months during a long promo. The market maker would do as I described above, while than trying to discredit the company in every way possible.
I seen this very closely!
If you need more examples there out there.
I guess my issue is no one can show that naked shorting actually occurs in pink sheet stocks. that buyin site my understanding uses his formula for estimating the short positin which several broekrs i know state is not accurate as it not based on factual data. having said that i have in the past looked at that site just to gather information.
i guess perhaps a definition is in order. yes market makers can sell stock and not cover for three days,and my understanding of rules is they can ask for extension to 7 days and worst case 15 days- but market makers do not wish to past 3 days becasue it invites FNRA scrutiny and reduces their trading ability as short position reduced their net working capital position.i think problem retail investors have in understanding the system is they think market makers think like them- simply market makers make money off the spread and volume and are very very short term orientated. so if they sell a stock in the morning, knowing that they have a place they buy cheaper in afternoon, or they want to take short term bet the sale will drive down the price on the bid, i have no doubt that occurs at times.
the idea the average market maker is out taking risks to short stocks under $.05, invite FNRA scrutiny, to most market makers is not credible.
if i am wrong all it would take is concrete evidence that this regularly occurs.
then if it does occur in stocks under $.05, then discussion about whether it helps or not promote orderly makets.
same discussion applies to convertible dept operations, so caled toxic financing. every one i know in that business also laughs at the idea they are shorting sub penny stocks, why ? they get their discount regardless. if you coudl make 50% automatically with every trade, why would you take risk on shorting stocks ?however closer to cnversion date once they decide to convert they may sell a stock and cover 3 days later, when there is volume.
i am open minded but for years i hear people talking about naked shorting pink sheet stocks as rampant in the market, yet no one shows me a broker who will do this for a client.
Don't get me wrong, I wish it was easier for retail investors to short penny stocks. There are a number of them that warrant it.
It is the inside, big boys club where they seem to have all the a rules in there favor. This is the real problem,. Naked shorts allowed as long as they can say they are just trying to make a market. Watch CSTI and other well known shorting market makers. I have seen them "make markets providing liquidity" aka known as naked shorting pushing a stock way down in value, trading more shares than are even issued by the company. The stacking the offers, low offers, etc. to make it look like a massive sell off is underway, even if there isn't one. Again many pumps do have big real sell offs. But when they don't the market makers do it anyway. That is my problem with it.
You might want to get on the Buyins.net mailing list or watch the web site. They have often exposed naked shorting and had it lead to a short squeeze. Mind you it is mostly for larger stocks. But I have seen it on some penny stocks also.
I agree with you about Federal Reserve to be sure, and when a crash comes it will be massive.
On shorting penny stocks the persistence of this urban legend is astonishing - no one I know in the industry takes this seriously, but they all say it makes for good conversation with retail investors. For stocks above a few dollars I dont know, but certainly hard to see why generating liquidity is a negative in a free market. Sure there are some bad apples out there, a bigger issue is the costs and constraints imposed through regulaton that is driving legitamate small companies out of business. Just my opinion of course !
The biggest problem with the current government is that is being run by the private bank called the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is as Feral as Federal Express. Now guess who runs DTCC? That is right, the same group that is above the law, the ones who can print as much money as they want to whom they want can do the same with DTC. That is why select people can seem to borrow more stock than is in circulation.
I think you are not looking at the big picture. This is not about brokers shorting. Perhaps they might a little. But the real shorts are MUCH much bigger. With friends in high places. That is why when a short trade foes bad enough they can get DTC locks or a company suspended from trading or get the big media to run smear campaigns.
I am unsure why a logical analysis of why market makers are not shorting penny stocks under $.05 has anything to do with whether government is honest. Look up FNRA rules and net working capital requirements for market makers, why on earth would market maker want to attract scrutiny in this day and age.
As far as US government there are a lot more dishonest and corrupt governments out there, I worry more about the inefficiency of this behemoth government we have now.
I am not referring to stocks in $4 price range, but to stocks under $.05 and $.01 in partcular.
The interesting thing about this urban legend of shorting penny and sub penny stocks is no one I know in industry take seriously yet retail investors seem to like the story . Tht is not only market maker I know.
Good test is what retail broker in US will short penny stock ? Everyone talks about shorting but then cant idenify broker who would short these stocks. The level of regulation of brokers and market makers in particular has grown signficantly the past few years, shorting stocks in particular past 3 days is more trouble than it is worth.
I think perhaps it is a conceptual issue- market makers make money of the spread and volume, so their approach much different than investors.
Well we can see that post you quoted speaks for itself. AWSL has not done any diluting. In fact there is less shares outstanding than there was in 2009/ 2010.
We also see that AWSL news was correct and not misleading like you "quoted".
I find it interesting to see your choice in picking an example. Are you an AWSL shareholder?
I am not referring to only stocks under .05. One dat alone AWSL was shorted 680,000 shares over $4.00. So who was the short? WIth about 15% of trading days, volume was 100% short sales. Most days it trades it is between 25 to 70% short. Again if you can't short who is doing this. These short statistics are right from RegSHO / FINRA.
While your friend the market maker might be honest. You really think he speaks for all market makers? Let me guess you also think government is honest and no corruption exists.
Thanks for posting the article. I asked my market maker friend about naked short selling of pink sheet stocks and his retail clients. He said for a while he tried to explain to retail clienst but finally gave up as in his opinion simply retail speculators in penny stocks love conpsiracy theories so much it wasnt worth him annoying clients with the facts.
He said he is not in business of speculating in stocks, just making the spread. While he may sell in the morning and cover by the close of market, he said ofc course there are some market makers who may stretch out a few days- but the increased restrictiosn from clearing firms and DTC on penny stocks,has an effect even on market makers.
where does a retail investor go to naked short sell a penny stock tradng udner $.05 ? do you have any articles actually stating an actual case where somone's broker borrowed a stock trading under $.05 ? could be, i just havent seen.
I am referring to OTC stocks tading udner $.05 . The link you provided doesnt relate to market I was referring to.
It is utterly amazing to me that any market maker I know or know of, any professional within the industry, just laughs when they here people talking about naked short selling stocks trading under $.05. Yet penny speculators seem to actually believe someone is short selling their stocks.
Market makers have a short window, a very short window, in which they can short stocks but they have to cover within that window.
There are as there always have been scam operators out there, but the idea that there is consistent naked short selling of penny and sub penny stocks seems unproven and not even probable as much as many seem to believe.
OTC MOVERS
The manipulator who use to go by the name of WC, now called something else. Has even an OTC MOVERS BOARD of his/her own. The statements made here are just incredible. They use tactics of fear and instruct other IHUB members to short and manipulate a stocks for personal gain on our HARD EARN MONEY. The board itself, its based on the FUNTIMETALS OF MANIPULATUION. I'm all for calling out a bad stock, when verified DD and documents could be proven and liable to its credibility. Not pumping up from time to time, bashing on inconsistencies with no creditable facts. Then building a BOARD based on how to manipulate OTC SMALL CAP companies for your personal gain, then the balls to brag about it. Perfect example is the post provided. This board here should be used to expose such claim. Not just victims like me, but others should come forward and bring up the issues, I would like this board to grow, I believe it stands for something, and I will support it. Thank you and Happy Safe Trading.
In this $2,000,000 fine by the SEC on this trader for naked short selling must be an "urban legend" also.
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2011/2011-264.htm
As we can see this manipulation continues. Until the market makers are no longer exempt to the anti naked short selling rules, these games will continue.
Naked short selling, or naked shorting, is the practice of short-selling a tradable asset of any kind without first borrowing the security or ensuring that the security can be borrowed, as is conventionally done in a short sale. When the seller does not obtain the shares within the required time frame, the result is known as a "failure to deliver". The transaction generally remains open until the shares are acquired by the seller, or the seller's broker settles the trade.
Short selling is used to anticipate a price fall, but exposes the seller to the risk of a price rise.
In 2008, the SEC banned what it called "abusive naked short selling"[2] in the United States, as well as some other jurisdictions, as a method of driving down share prices. Failing to deliver shares is legal under certain circumstances, and naked short selling is not per se illegal.[3][4][5] In the United States, naked short selling is covered by various SEC regulations which prohibit the practice.
Critics, including Overstock.com's Patrick M. Byrne, have advocated for stricter regulations against naked short selling. In 2005, "Regulation SHO" was enacted; requiring that broker-dealers have grounds to believe that shares will be available for a given stock transaction, and requiring that delivery take place within a limited time period.
As part of its response to the crisis in the North American markets in 2008, the SEC issued a temporary order restricting short-selling in the shares of 19 financial firms deemed systemically important, by reinforcing the penalties for failing to deliver the shares in time.[8] Effective September 18, 2008, amid claims that aggressive short selling had played a role in the failure of financial giant Lehman Brothers, the SEC extended and expanded the rules to remove exceptions and to cover all companies, including market makers.
Some commentators have contended that despite regulations, naked shorting is widespread and that the SEC regulations are poorly enforced. Its critics have contended that the practice is susceptible to abuse, can be damaging to targeted companies struggling to raise capital, and has led to numerous bankruptcies.[6][10] However, other commentators have said that the naked shorting issue is a "devil theory",[11] not a bona fide market issue and a waste of regulatory resources.
Perhaps another way to look at is that market makers are simply in the business of making money on the spread and commissions on trade flow- they are not in business of speculating in stocks though of course sometimes they do. But every position they take for their own account reduces their net working capital that sets the trading volume they can handle per day. Thus generally the thrust of market making is not acquiring a position to earn proceeds from trades going beyond that day or three days.
The persistence of urban market legends about naked shorting penny stocks continues in absence of very much proof whatsoever. Market makers I know point out that the type of scheme you describe carries so much risk that it would be rare for market maker to engage in such activity.
Speculators in the market seem to love this conspiracy theory.FNRA has increasingly over the last years monitored this issue due to constant speculator complaints.I am not saying it never happens that somemarket maker doesnt take the risk, but few who do stay in business.
I agree that market makers can naked short stock. But the 3 day issue is the easiest to get around. They simple transfer the position back and forth from one MM to another. As little as 2 MM's are required. Often there is 3 or 4. This is why there has been names for groups of market makers that gang up on penny stock. The rat pack is pretty notorious.
Once people start to notice what they are doing they will run the orders through other market makers. So people see trade, or UBSS or AUTO up there instead.
You can google market maker fined for naked shorting or other search strings. Many fines have been dolled out. SOme small firms even went under.
I do not think anyone can answer this. It resembles a "big boys club" or "insiders" of DTCC or other clearing agents that purposely fail to report there naked short trades or looks the other way while someone else does.
YOu will tend to know there is a large naked short position when you see people spending enormous amounts of time trying to discredit the company. Trying to find false stories innuendoes etc. all pointing to "think twice about buying or holding this stock".
Here is a great site to do some reading on how bad the abuse is: http://www.deepcapture.com/the-story-of-deep-capture-by-mark-mitchell/
Here is a video where a well known Short Seller (some association to the Streetsweeper) admits how he and others do this short and distort: http://www.wimp.com/manipulatingmarket/
Watch the body language of the interviewer when Jim says "it's legal"! Note how Jim says "feed some bozo reporter some false news for them to write on the company. Or call a bunch of traders to start false rummers than buy some 'puts" that are signs that someone thinks the market is going to go down,.
Market Makers can place bid/ask for retail or institutional clients, and some even use computer programs to palce their own trades.Both groups can play whatever games they want with the bid and ask, so rather curious why market makers always blamed when any retail investor can do the same thing, except market makers can short the stock temporarily until they settle accounts- and on otc stocks this usually means the same day, or if not within three days. urban legends about shorting penny otc stocks are just that , legends.
if retail investor wishes to tease the bid up, he can do so, then hit the bid when others jump in. investors typically love to buy high and sell low,so for astute trade understanding trading patterns and market maker reactions can be profitable.
market makers can trade on their own account but generally try to not hold inventory of stocks overnight for their own account-just not the business they are in.
How does this exactly work? There's an actual person behind each MM on level 2, for every stock???
There are so many different opinions on market makers. Does anyone here know for fact? My own logical conclusion was that for the most part, the market makers are us retail. The sharks manipulate the game and others like to use "market maker games" to explain the bs going on.
Just to be objective, does anyone know of a single objective instance supported by facts of a significant short in any sub penny stock ? any retail broker that permits these sort of trades ? for that matter any institutional trader firm that (a) permits short selling of sub penny stocks past 3 days ?(b) past 6 days ?
Just an urban legend that speculators love to blame. I know a for some time a market maker personally and he says amongst market makers it is the biggest joke all these urban legends about short selling. Just think about it, if short selling going on in sub penny pink sheet stocks how come except in extremely rare instances it is never factually reported ?
The vast majority of the shorting in penny land is done at market maker level. The margin required are not even remotely close to the same. They also have the ability to park short positions and transfer them around to keep them hidden.
This is why prudent investigating links known stock message board forum bashers to these market makers or the funds they represent.
Why do you think so many people, either in error or fabrication, post that shorting is common in sub-penny stocks. Offshore companies follow suit to US companies rules so it doesn't happen there either. Margin requirements would be horrendous even if they could short the sub-penny yet they go on and on infinitum about short squeezes coming in their sub-pennies.
AGreed. But we are talking about SHort and Distort on this forum. Many Pump an dump forums exist to discuss that. I wish the short seller truly had to report the naked position. I wish the basher, distortion artists, propaganda spreading people would disclose in the 1,000's of posts they make that they have a financial interest in the stock. ie. have a short position or are paid to clutter message boards with negative views. But the good thing is when the real companies emerge very successful the S&D shysters usually get destroyed by the losses. It makes them think twice about doing it again/
We all see red flags in different places. I see red flags when I see management of a public company unwilling and/or unable to publish credible financial reporting with full footnote disclosures. Furthermore, triennial financial reporting is not sufficient to earn or retain the respect of the investors or the financial community. Hopefully, management gets to see timely financial reporting, but investors only get to see what management wants them to see about the Company's financials EVERY THREE YEARS!
Gilda
This is a great story. I've seen it several times and it always proves to me that there were no winners in the long-touted, ill-fated, short-lived AWSL-Hybridyne marriage.
Gilda
A great link for a couple classic S&D attacks.
http://thelongofiles.blogspot.ca
Here is one of the stories on the lol "whistle blower:"
Investigative Journalism or Stock Market Manipulation; A Look at TheStreetSweeper.org
I first became aware of the StreetSweeper.org back in October 2009 after a solar company I was following was attacked in a 3 part series by the site and its writer Melissa Davis.
The first article attacking Atlantic Wind & Solar Inc. (AWSL) which came out the day after the company’s shares not only hit a record high of $4.84 per share but, the same day also recorded the single largest short sales of the stock. Actually representing more then 60% of all the shares traded. Meaning more then half of the shares sold were ‘phantom shares’.
While short sales are legal if you first borrow the underlying shares before entering the sale, thus ensuring the true balance of supply and demand remains in tact. Meaning you can’t sell more shares then actually exists. The share borrower, if they do it legally, would also pay a small fee to the lender of the shares.
This in contrast was a ‘naked short’. This is not legal. In fact what they are doing is selling shares that do not exist, taking money from some legitimate investor and not delivering any shares to the investor. Selling ‘phantom shares’.
Not only is this illegal but is very risky financially if you cannot buy the shares back or borrow them in time. As they can be forced to repurchase them at even higher prices. They are required to deliver the shares within 3 days. As reported by FINRA (Financial Industry National Regulation Association) the ‘phantom shares were undeliverable for months. Meaning day after day they continued to sell shares they did not own dumping more ‘phantom’ shares in the market and thus destroying the true balance of supply and demand. According to the reported by Buyins.net there was more the 2,100,000 of these shares sold.
While these short sellers were continuing their illegal practice a very dramatic change was about to appear in the public perception of Atlantic Wind & Solar and its management including Chairman, Gilles Trahan. Up until this point they were the darlings of the internet chat rooms and forums and seemingly every news letter writer were talking favorably about them and their future.
The Dramatic Change
The night before the first article by Davis of TheStreetSweeper, in a wave unlike anything I have ever seen before, a mass mobbing of all internet forums most notably investorshub.com (iHub) and Yahoo Finance were swarmed with new posters all attacking the management and the company.
Every deal was attacked stating they were fictional. The; what I would call; negative bashers would say they have contacted the companies mentioned in all the press releases and that they were told they have never heard of Atlantic. Every single positive post was overwhelmingly attacked as a scam. Posters would post contact information and links to the S.E.C. and F.B.I. to report this fraud. People who posted anything positive would be attacked as being a co-conspirator and that they too would be reported.
The following morning the infamous StreetSweeper article came out. The message boards grew even more active and the stock took a nose-dive. I have to admit I was pulled into this and I too was happy I did not invest in this, as there seemed to really be something to this StreetSweeper story. However shortly after I was alerted to an article on a new form of market manipulation that until this time I did not know existed. The term was “short and distort”. Simply I was in total shock of what I read and began investigated this further..
Short & Distort
In the first article I read on the subject, was on Investopedia. In it the following section jumped out giving me a very sinking feeling in my stomach as it was way too familiar:
“The S&D (short & distort) shysters try to profit by stimulating fear, but this only works if they have credibility. As such, when working online they will often use screen names and email addresses that imply that they are associated with the SEC or the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) (formerly the National Association of Securities Dealers), or that they can regularly spot worthless stocks. Their goal is to convince investors that every proponent of the stock has ties to the company and that the SEC is watching and will halt the stock. S&Ds also intimate that they are looking out for investors' interests.
S&D players clutter message boards, so optimistic information cannot easily be found. "Get out before it all comes crashing down" and "Investors who wish to enter a class action lawsuit can contact…" are typical posts, as are their projections of $0 stock prices and 100% losses. If their strategy is suspected by "longs", they attack the person who has caught them. In other words, the market manipulator will do everything in his or her power to keep buyers out of the stock and keep the price heading south.” ... to read the full article.”
Incredibly, not only was this vaguely familiar but this sounded like the handbook that was used against this very company. While these tactic still continue to this day, although we have not seen any articles from the Streetsweeper.org since early 2010 the same negative warnings that the stock is going to be halted by the S.E.C., stand up for your rights and sue these scumbag thieves and statements continue to be posted by the same members sometimes as much as 20 times a day by the same person. I also noticed that all messages on investorshub.com that challenged the bashers and offer rebuttals seemed to be deleted within minutes yet one single basher has made over 10,000 posts. As a test, I placed a message on the forum highlighting some positive news and challenging some of the naysayers. Within minutes I received private messages from a couple of the bashes threatening to disclose me and ask me about the sexual acts I performed with the company’s CEO. Clearly I was mot welcome. Upon reporting it to the site administration they told me to simply click ignore.
Although the stock continues to trade and no action has been taken by the S.E.C. or any other regulators. The fact is the manipulators have won, so far. There efforts have been rewarded. Scaring off any new buyers they have had tremendous success as the stock trades under $0.40 now. Although 2 stock dividends have been issued, so each shareholders has 50% more shares then when he started, this is of little consequence to the investors who bought ‘phantom shares’ from the short seller at over $4.00 a share.
The People Behind TheStreetSweeper.org and Now it Gets Interesting
In a January 9, 2012, Questcor Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (NASDAQ: QCOR) issued a press release responding to a StreetSweeper article written about them, and they had this to say about the article and website.
Questcor has been unable to determine the exact nature of StreetSweeper.org, its ownership structure, or its revenue sources. The website, www.thestreetsweeper.org, provides no information on these topics, and standard listings about it are limited and opaque. Based on our examination to date, we believe that the website lists people that it claims are associated with it, one of whom the website and media reports identify as a felon who pled guilty to two conspiracy charges – for securities fraud and money laundering – and who later pled guilty to racketeering charges related to stock manipulation, another of whom has the same name as an individual who, according to media reports, was arrested recently for kidnapping and extortion, and another of whom has the same name as an individual who, according to media reports, has been involved in extensive litigation regarding fraud, defamation, and slander. The exact nature of the relationships between these individuals and StreetSweeper.org is unclear. It is also unclear whether the website’s purpose is journalistic or to further the economic interests of short sellers without regard to accuracy (a practice referred to as “short and distort”). Read the whole PR.
Calling a Spade a Spade
Redchip.com was a little ore direct with their headline entitled Melissa Davis of StreetSweeper: In Bed with Short Sellers and Convicted Felons. Read more
Another company striking back at the StreetSweeper is Gold Resources Corp. Read Press Release.
The Destruction of Small Business in America
How many people had to sell stock losing their savings because one or two individuals think it is ok to purposefully manipulate investors into selling so they can make money? How is this any less corrupt than the Enron management or any other securities violation or crime? In fact some might argue this is even more destructive to America as it is preying upon the small business and trying to force them to go under. By driving down the stock and spreading false rumors the Company is unlikely to raise more money to fuel their growth and with more and more people and companies turning to the internet for researching a company to do business with, this also can slow sales dramatically causing not only a reduction of employee hirings but usually mass layoffs.
Sign a petition against this short & distort manipulation.
http://www.petitiononline.com/mrktrfrm/petition.html
Great post. Unfortunately the distortion artist, unlike promoters or "pumpers" does not have to disclose his short position or the fact that he/ she was paid to discredit the company and clutter up the boards with only negativity.
This makes for a very un level playing field. You have to ask yourself, "why is this person dedicating so much time to talking about this company or stock if they have no interest in it.
Red flags are numerous posts and obvious dedication and time. As we all know if you are not interested in a stock you just move on. Unless you are taking a short position or being paid to spread propaganda.
How to Identify and Prevent S&D
Do not believe everything you read - verify the facts.
Do your own due diligence and discuss it with your broker.
Hypothecate your stock - take it out of its street name to prevent the short sellers from borrowing and selling it. (Learn more about doing your own due diligence in our related article, Due Diligence In 10 Easy Steps)
The best way to protect yourself is to do your own research. Many stocks with great potential are ignored by Wall Street. By doing your own homework you should feel much more secure in your decisions. And, even if the S&Ds attack your stock, you will be better able to detect their distortions and be less likely to fall prey to them by selling the stock at a loss.
How To Identify Good Research
Ask yourself these questions to spot the key characteristics of a good research report:
1. Is There a Disclaimer?
The SEC requires that everyone providing investment information or advice fully disclose the nature of the relationship between the information provider (the research analyst) and the company that is the subject of the report. If there is no disclaimer, investors should disregard the report. (For related reading on disclosures, see Disclosures: The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly.)
2. What Is the Nature of the Relationship?
Investors can get good information from pieces published by investor relations firms, brokerage houses and independent research companies. Using all of these sources will provide information and perspectives that can help you make better investing decisions. However, you need to evaluate their conclusions in light of the compensation (if any) that the information provider received for the report.
Can a Wall Street analyst who is even partially compensated by trading generated by the report be more objective than a fee-based research firm that is paid a flat monthly rate with no "performance" bonus? The answer to this question is left for each investor to decide, but both reports are available to use for evaluating a potential investment. The nature of the compensation will provide information to help you evaluate a report's objectivity.
3. Is the Author Identified and Contact Information Provided?
Generally speaking, if the author's name and contact information are on the report, it is a good sign because it shows that the author is proud of the report, and provides investors with a way to contact the author for additional information.
Research reports from legitimate brokerage firms post the author's name and contact information near the top of the front page. If the author's name is not given, investors should be very skeptical of the report's contents.
4. What Are the Author's Credentials?
Letters after a name do not necessarily mean that the author of the report is a better analyst, but they do indicate that the analyst has undertaken additional studies to expand his or her knowledge of finance and investing. (For more insight, see The Alphabet Soup Of Financial Certifications.)
5. How Does the Report Read?
If the report contains grandiose words and exclamation points, beware. This not to say that good analysts are boring, but good reports don't read like the National Enquirer. A reputable analyst would never use exaggerations like "sure things" or "rockets", and would never suggest that you mortgage your home to buy a stock.
Objective research reports provide reasoned arguments to buy or sell a stock. Key factors such as management expertise, competitive advantages and cash flows are cited as evidence to support the recommendation. (For more insight, read Research Report Red Flags.)
6. Is There an Earnings Model and Target Price With Reasonable Assumptions?
The bottom line for any recommendation is the earnings model and target price. The assumptions upon which the earnings model is based should be clearly stated so the reader can evaluate whether the assumptions are reasonable. The target price should be based on valuation metrics - such as the price-to-earnings (P/E) or price-to-book (P/B) ratio - that are also based on reasonable assumptions. If a report lacks these details, it is generally safe to assume that the report lacks a sound basis, and should be ignored.(For more details about analyzing ratios, see the Financial Ratio Tutorial.)
7. Is There Ongoing Research Coverage?
A commitment to providing ongoing research coverage (at least one report per quarter for at least one year) indicates that there is a solid belief in the company's fundamental strengths. It takes a lot of resources to provide this type of coverage, so a firm providing ongoing coverage is a sign that it legitimately believes in the long-term potential of a stock.
This contrasts with one-time reports that are used to manipulate stocks. In these cases, supposed research firms will suddenly issue "reports" on stocks they have never reported on before. Generally, these reports can be identified as an attempt at stock manipulation because they will not contain the attributes of a legitimate research report (discussed above).
The Bottom Line
Unscrupulous short and distort tactics can leave investors holding the bag. Fortunately, high-quality stock reports are relatively easy to spot, and needn't be confused with stock manipulators' dramatic claims. Keep your cool when analyzing a stock, and avoid getting caught up in online hype. By analyzing potential investments carefully and objectively, you can protect yourself from falling prey to S&D players - and make better stock picks overall.
Gilda
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/analyst/030102.asp
Pump and dump spam
Pump and dump stock scams are prevalent in spam, accounting for about 15% of spam e-mail messages. A survey of 75,000 unsolicited emails sent between January 2004 and July 2005 concluded that spammers could make an average return of 4.29% by using this method, while recipients who act on the spam message typically lose close to 5.5% of their investment within two days.[11] A study by Böhme and Holz[12] shows a similar effect. Stocks targeted by spam are almost always "penny stocks", selling for less than $5 per share, not traded on major exchanges, are thinly traded, and are difficult or impossible to sell short. Spammers acquire stock before sending the messages, and sell the day the message is sent.[13]
Pump and dump differs from many other forms of spam (such as advance fee fraud emails and lottery scam messages) in that it does not require the recipient to contact the spammer to collect supposed "winnings," or to transfer money from supposed bank accounts. This makes tracking the source of pump and dump spam difficult, and has also given rise to "minimalist" spam consisting of a small untraceable image file containing a picture of a stock symbol.[citation needed]
Short and distort
Main article: Short and distort
A variant of the pump and dump scam, the "short and distort" works in the opposite manner. Instead of first buying the stock, and then artificially raising its price before selling, in a "short and distort" the scammer first short-sells the stock, and then artificially lowers the price, using the same techniques as the pump and dump but using criticism or negative predictions regarding the stock. The scammer then buys back the stock at the lower price.[14]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pump_and_dump
Gilda
From Wikipedia
"Short and distort" is a type of securities fraud in which Internet investors short sell a stock and then spread negative rumors about the company in an attempt to drive down stock prices.[1][2] Cell phones and text-based messaging are the primary tools for the people committing "short and distort" as they tend to hide the source of the information.[citation needed]
It is often performed as a form of naked short selling in which stock is sold without being borrowed and without any intent to borrow.[3][4] Once the stock price has declined, the investor uses the proceeds of the initial sale to buy a larger number of the company's shares than sold originally. Some of the newly purchased stock is used to fulfill the short-selling contract; the remaining shares are then offered for sale, which causes an additional decline in the company's share price.
During the takeover of The Bear Stearns Companies by J.P. Morgan Chase in March 2008, reports swirled that short sellers were spreading rumors to drive down Bear Stearns' share price.[5] United States Senator Christopher Dodd said this was more than rumors and said, "This is about collusion."[6] Chase was victimized by a similar "short and distort" scheme six years earlier when rumors arose about its purported relationship with Enron.[7]
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