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My feelings exactly, they're all crap. Daffy Duck, I like that.
Hello Chairman Gillespie,
I trust you are considering alternatives to Bush Cheney as events unfold against the GOP and Bush. Frankly, I have reached the point of disgust.
You might learn more than you bargained for in this email.
I am a conservative Republican. I designed the strategy that took the House and Senate from Clinton in 1994. I had my own reasons for doing so, since my now ex-wife was one of the "6 secret Jane Does" in Jones v. Clinton and the only one that was sexually assaulted on state property while doing her state job and lost the job, and it all happened in front of witnesses that were to testify too. She is the one that put Clinton in his place and it was not without extreme hardships being inflicted upon us in retribution.
William J. McManus was a close personal friend and confidant. I spent election eve 1994 at the Ramada Renaissance at 10th & K with Mr. Mac, his assistant Arlene Zech, several retired admirals and others to watch the events unfold. Mr. Moran and I did not get along, nor did I get along with Scott Reed and Haley Barbour who took credit for my "strategic vision" work. With his ineptitude in the Dole campaign I rested my case on "who had a plan" because he could have used the same plan for Dole and done better than that campaign turned out. There is probably something buried in RNC records as to who was in the RNC Finance Room that night as there were only 156 or so allowed into that room, including Karl W. and Marilyn M. Schwarz. We still have the buttons that were the only RSVP into that room.
So you can establish "providence", Jean Fitzpatrick had her photo taken that evening with our oldest living admiral (at that time). The one that was such a close friend to Mr. Mac. It was me that made the request for her to pose in that photo because the admiral was an admirer but too shy to ask her on his own.
I turned down an opportunity (1984) to run against Clinton. Even being on the radar scope cost me dearly financially and otherwise. Frankly, I have grown quite tired of being hammered personally for being a Republican in the Banana Republic of Arkansas.
I am not voting for Bush - Cheney this time. I have not voted for any Democrat since 1980 and Ronald Reagan's election. Bill and Hillary Clinton taught me well that "Democratic Principles" and what I hold as values are two different matters altogether. I know about 25,000 Republicans that are not voting for them either and the list grows by the day. You would be amazed at how many Republican Party members that I know are not voting for Bush and have turned out of sheer disgust.
Arrogance does not sell well in America and especially does not sell overseas where we have problems multiplying by the hour. Lying does not sell either especially with dead and maimed American soldiers as a result of it.
I am going to share some of those reasons with you, and they are reasons that Americans outside the Beltway are turning because their lives have been personally hammered into oblivion and this "wealthy GOP jet set" cannot see, hear, or feel what is really going on in America and has been for years.
The White House called me the evening of September 9, 2003. It was one of the senior aides of Karen Hughes reacting to my version of "political artillery". You can check the records for White House calls to the telephone number below. They were concerned about the massive number of emails, faxes and telephone calls signaling that many would not vote for Bush if he approved the sale of Global Crossing to ST Telemedia. National Security issues were overlooked, undermined, and many Americans know that all too well. By the way, the people that sent those notices between September 5 - 9 really meant it and are diligently working to make sure there is no second term.
It had to do with Global Crossing, national security, fraud in our courts and markets, and Karen's aide brought up WCG. You see, Mr. Gillespie, there has been rampant fraud in our markets and this president has not enforced "rule of law" against the same parties that are now his biggest single block of campaign contributors. Americans see that quid pro quo quite clearly, more so than the GOP would wish. It is screaming out to Americans "vote pandering" and that money can buy immunity from the law with this president.
Some of the RICO defendants to be named in WCG and GX are major campaign contributors to this Bush - Cheney team. The trails are very clear, and the real damage done to Americans has not been addressed by this Administration. Some of the "to be named" defendants are well known Texans that have engaged in transfer of wealth schemes for their benefit and to the devastation of thousands of Americans and their families.
The lawsuit filed by JP Morgan Chase after the Global Crossing bankruptcy was over, shareholders blown out, is fundamentally based on the fraud that should have been investigated and litigated within the bankruptcy. That this Administration just looked the other way knowing full well what the fraud was makes his utterance of the words "rule of law" a mockery to every American harmed by the fraud Bush refuses to address, but then there are those massive campaign donations at stake. I have been to NYC, inside the offices of Milbank Tweed and know exactly what the Bush Administration refuses to address while accepting those large compaign donations.
Thank you to the RNC and Bush for selling the rest of America out. You will pay for it.
Where Americans sought justice and restitution, this Administration sought the opportunity for major campaign donations. That this quid pro quo is decidedly anti-American has not been missed by the victims of the crimes.
I has to do with the FBI sting "Operation Bermuda Shorts" and who this administration did not round up because they are major campaign contributors. Mr. Soros' ire is directly a result of what I just mentioned. Check www.canadianbusiness.com and search for Mark Valentine, Predator or Prey and Blame Canada. No, Americans blame Bush and not enforcing Rule of Law against his major donors. Canada and the Caribbean are merely means of conducting crime and market manipulation in either direction (fluffing up or melting down) and getting away with billions of assets and leaving millions of harmed and financially devastated Americans in the wake.
Ms. Hughes' aide confirmed that International LDDD fraud had been investigated and found to be happening. That is the fraud we discovered in March 2001 and stayed on the trail that led to WCG and GX, and other telecoms, Wall Street and major investors that are now safely tucked in behind this president as campaign contributors. The White House, SEC, DOJ let the deals slide straight through the courts even knowing that bankruptcy was being used as a haven from fraud, no investigations brought, no "rule of law" enforced. In the wake of those two companies alone, tens of thousands of families financially plundered, literally robbed by fraudulent schemes, illegal market manipulation, etc. many losing jobs, investments, 401(k), retirement, marriages and homes. Real hardships and the GOP and Bush White House have done nothing except stay on Party Line Mantra and accept donations from those that should have been prosecuted.
That type of fraud is directly related to what is cited in the Canadian Business articles. I am a well known expert in the matter and spent 12 weeks in Canada last year on that specific subject.
Americans are disgusted that many of our men and woman have been sent to Iraq to die for a lie. You would be amazed at how many Americans know that Baker & Hughes are involved in Iraq and raking in the loot (i.e. taxpayer dollars). Not all Americans are focused on Halliburton and the probable conflicts of interests in them being involved at all. We are not sitting out here buying the Bechtel and Fluor ties to this administration do not equate directly to how much those firms are getting in new business from the $18.6 billion in taxpayer dollars approved for PMO / IIRO reconstruction activities.
The Office of Special Plans is a more often discussed matter than the GOP would care to know. Willful manipulation of the facts so American soldiers can be sent to die or be maimed for a lie is not sitting well with Americans that are paying that price. They are using the word "despicable" and it fits. Like Pontius Pilate, there is some blood that will not wash off.
This President pretends to be pro-military, yet can do the negative things to our military that are cited in this presentation:
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html
Words ring very shallow when they have no true meaning or otherwise make sacrifice and truth a mockery.
Americans are waking up to the investigations in Nigeria and France (and the one being sat on here in the U.S. until after November) against Cheney and Halliburton, $160 million in bribes, $4 billion natural gas plant.
This "Iraq WMD Commission" and its report due in March 2005 is yet another example of evasion and a mockery to all Americans.
Americans are also waking up to the fact that an Israeli was involved in exporting 200 nuclear detonators to South Africa and then to Pakistan and is out on bond, in Maryland right now. After Ms. Hughes' assistant confirmed International LDDD fraud, and it was Gary Winnick behind that to a large extent and his former Milken co-defendant friends, it raises serious questions about the competence or the integrity of our DOJ and this White House administration.
Between 1995 and 2001 SEC levied $3.1 billion in fines. It has only collected 14% of that, or $434 million. There were $1.3 billion in fines levied against the Milken co-defendants, so to put it bluntly and succinctly, they were allowed to keep their securities licenses and plunder Americans again even though they never paid all of the fines. Just do the math.
Just recently Eliot Spitzer cited charges being brought against CIBC, exactly where some of Winnick's friends were and plundering the hell out of GX investors. We have identified 17 former Milken co-defendants as being involved in multiple GX deals, and literally tens of thousands of their victims.
As this president speaks of National Security, hundreds of thousands of Americans are aware of this, allowing Smart Bomb and cruise missile technology to go to the PRC:
http://nwitimes.com/articles/2003/07/16/business/business/bcf88c2c676ddef086256d640078612b.txt
Clinton allowed their "uranium enrichment subsidiary" to be quietly moved to the PRC in 1999. Just search for Archibald Cox, Jr. and Magnequench. The trail is there and more Americans than you can count today are aware of it.
Does the GOP have its "plausible deniability" statement prepared for when deadly accurate smart bombs and cruise missiles rain down on our own troops? Or nuclear weapons that our technology made available? It is yet again a matter of "it did not happen on our watch?"
If I were president my foreign policy could be summed up in one sentence: "I refuse to plant weeds just so we have to go weed the garden".
You can follow the name of my company and find FCC - Global Crossing matters. Under our previous name of GlobalAxxess, you can find at FCC all the way back to October 21, 2002 what I filed that led to Li Ka-shing being disallowed as a purchaser of Global Crossing. The PRC now has Global Crossing network access to all of the United States via Asia Global Crossing that is now owned by PRC interests, the Government of Singapore and Goldman Sachs [see CICC, the Red China one] and Asia Global Crossing is "seamlessly" connected to Global Crossing. They can set up VPNs that we cannot even detect. They have entire teams of "Network Warriors" [see FOXNews] working for the PRC and was reported in August and September, and summarily dismissed by the Bush White House and CFIUS. Many Americans already know of the conflict of interest of Goldman Sachs, Steven Friedman and his position on CFIUS and role in the matter. You can also find that my firm was the high bidder for Global Crossing by a considerable amount, but due diligence is not fashionable when a group of people are hiding fraud.
I trust that the GOP is aware of BioPort, the exclusive manufacturer of the anthrax vaccine being administered to our troops and hopefully to all Americans. Oddly enough, one of the Global Crossing trails led to that company. Based on what I know, I will never allow that vaccine to be administered to myself or anyone in my family.
Americans by the hundreds of thousands are finding out more daily about that vaccine, Carlyle / George H.W. Bush involvement in BioPort profiting from this administrations policies, and former involvement of the bin Laden family. But more importantly the massive increases in pneumonia, Factor X Deficiency, ameloidosys diagnoses and Army nurses and doctors being instructed to make "no medical chain of evidence" linking the foregoing to the anthrax vaccine. Factor X Deficiency is the cause of massive internal clotting and may well explain the heart attack and pulmonary embolism deaths of too many of our soldiers and even NBC reporter David Bloom.
http://www.unitedjustice.com/stories/david-bloom.html
UPI is already on the story and now has more information from myself and many nurses and doctors that are not going to re-enlist. They have had enough, especially the threats and being ordered to cover up wrong:
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20031006-113325-5591r
Pneumonia is rampant. I personally know one soldier that has had it 4 times while in Iraq:
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030915-014545-8114r
It is odd that only a Democratic senator has asked for this matter to be looked into and just summarily brushed aside by the majority:
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20031124-075432-6271r
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20031217-032344-8720r
How can this administration pretend to care for US troops when hundreds went without medical care at Fort Knox and Fort Stewart and some of them were injured in Iraqi Freedom? What hypocrisy is this?
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20031017-024617-1418r
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20031020-025820-5101r
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20031029-020609-6750r
Read about a Thanksgiving that was not a photo op or a chance to trump Hillary:
December 21, 2003
The War We Don't See
Below is the text of an email that comes from a nurse for the Department of the Army in Landstuhl, Germany, where casualties from the war in Iraq are treated at the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center. She wrote it in response to George II visit to Iraq on Thanksgiving. (It comes from the Boston Globe.)
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"My `Bush Thanksgiving' was a little different . . . I spent it at the hospital taking care of a young West Point lieutenant wounded in Iraq. He had stabilization of his injuries in Iraq and then two long surgeries here for multiple injuries; he's just now stable enough to send back to the USA. After a few bites of dinner I let him sleep, and then cried with him as he woke up from a nightmare. When he pressed his fists into his eyes and rocked his head back and forth he looked like a little boy. They all do, all 19 on the ward that day, some missing limbs, eyes, or worse.
"There are two more long wards just like this one. The ICU has been receiving soldiers for many months now, often unconscious young men on ventilators with wives and parents (our age) bending over the beds, stroking whatever part isn't bandaged, pinned, or burned. It requires a deep breath and strong heart anymore to walk through those swinging doors; I know the photo IDs outside the rooms will bear little resemblance to the men in the rooms.
"It's too bad Mr. Bush didn't add us to his holiday agenda. The men said the same, but you'll never read that in the paper. Mr. President would rather lift fake turkeys for photo ops, it seems. Maybe because my patients wouldn't make very pleasant photos . . . most don't look all that great, and the ones with facial wounds and external fixation devices look downright scary. And a heck of a lot of them can't talk, anyway, and some never will talk again. . . Well, this is probably more than you want to know, but there's no spin on this one. It's pure carnage.
. . . Like all wars, the "shock and awe" eventually trickles down to blood and death. But you won't see that. I do, every single day."
I know hundreds of military personnel that are not going to re-enlist. They have had enough of the lies and enough of Bush Cheney policy which is maybe more accurately described as Wolfowitz, Feith, Perle policy. Yes, let us be pro-Israel and the world's leading anti-Arab bashing nation because certain neocons want it that way. Where one would expect a solid military vote for the president, I know very few that are going to vote for him. Morale is only high in those who have military careers to protect by "saying it is so".
I could even tell you about urgently needed military assets for Iraq that are high centered on bureaucratic red tape inside our Pentagon and a total lack of "dealing in good faith", while "pet projects" of major campaign contributors are procured and sent as pretense solutions only to leave our troops in harm's way.
If I had the means, I would run against them right now even if I had to do it as an independent. Enough is enough. However, I am still having to dig out of the "retribution hole" that Clinton and his Arkansas FOBs handed to me, my ex-wife and my family.
Mr. Mac wanted me to join Team 100 and shake things up. I wish now that I had because the GOP might not be in the gutter with the Democrats as it is now.
Even the Bush Amnesty for illegal aliens is clearly seen to be what it is, vote pandering to Hispanics and more bad news for American workers and their families. Even while Homeland Security cannot make a decision that Matricula Consular ID cards from vending machines in Mexico are a threat to national security, they just keep coming and now even faster to get on the USS Dole.
http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/MatriculaConsularShamIDs.html
National Security is an illusion and $40.2 billion for Homeland Security will do little to change that this year.
Military policy is making enemies faster than friends and apparently having long term negative affects on our troops and their families, including non-combat, long-term health issues.
The $2.4 trillion pork filled, vote pandering budget is a travesty, especially since so much of that money is to be "borrowed" and allocated to reward even more to the major contributors.
The "government growth" president is now being seen to be what he is, a plunderer of the US Treasury for his wealthy benefactors.
I do not see any way to join the party for 2004, with having to focus on reversing the 1997-2001 bashing we took from the Clintonoids.
However, I am considering 2008 and maybe honoring what Mr. Mac wanted me to do. You see, I am a Chief Destruction Officer, unafraid of breaking things and rebuilding them to what it should be, what it is supposed to be, making it better, and purging anyone that wants status quo to remain in my way.
Most Americans I know now define Status Quo as "the mess we are in". As of right now, I hold this administration and the GOP personally to blame for that.
I intend to send this to many, well over 25,000 people most of whom have been directly and negatively affected by this administration's policies, or have lost loved ones in Iraq or had them come home with major body parts missing or head injuries so severe they do not even know their family members on sight, or generally are not wealthy enough to get 5 minutes of time from the White House or the GOP. They are just the regular Americans that you take for granted and have endured enough abuse.
I cannot with a clear conscience vote for Kerry or any of the other Liberals either, so I guess this year I will write in Daffy Duck and be done with 2004.
sincerely,
Karl W. B. Schwarz
Your politic crap just goes right over my head. Could care less, know what I mean. Too busy making money. LMAO
If even half of it is accurate, it is impressive. If all of it is true, I cannot imagine why the Bush administration is not screaming it from the roof tops.
Want to widen the discussion to speculation about WMD? We are a speculative lot.
Hi Troy, I just found out why it was so hard to recognize him.......
Best regards, Tom
Found this on another board........
SINCE PRESIDENT BUSH DECLARED AN END TO MAJOR COMBAT ON MAY 1 HERE'S WHAT TOM BEAL HAS RESEARCHED AND THOUGHT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PASS THIS ON TO ANYONE WHO WHO FAULTS GEORGE BUSH'S EFFORTS TO BRING PEACE AND JUSTICE IN SOME COUNTRIES IN ORDER TO PROTECT US:
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* The first battalion of the new Iraqi Army has graduated and is on active duty.
* Over 60,000 Iraqis now provide security to their fellow citizens.
* Nearly all of Iraq's 400 courts are functioning.
* The Iraqi judiciary is fully independent.
* On Monday, October 6, power generation hit 4,518 megawatts, exceeding the prewar average.
* All 22 universities and 43 technical institutes and colleges are open, as are nearly all primary and secondary schools.
* By October 1, Coalition forces had rehabbed over 1,500 schools - 500 more than their target.
* Teachers earn from 12 to 25 times their former salaries.
* All 240 hospitals and more than 1200 clinics are open.
* Doctor's salaries are at least eight times what they were under Saddam.
* Pharmaceutical distribution has gone from essentially nothing to 700 tons in May to a current total of 12,000 tons.
* The Coalition has helped administer over 22 million vaccination doses to Iraq's children.
* A Coalition program has cleared over 14,000 kilometers of Iraq's 27,000 kilometers of weed-choked canals. They now irrigate tens of thousands of farms. This project has created jobs for more than 100,000 Iraqi men and women.* We have restored over three-quarters of prewar telephone services and over two-thirds of the potable water production.
* There are 4,900 full-service phone connections. We expect 50,000 by January first.
* The wheels of commerce are turning. From bicycles to satellite dishes to cars and trucks, businesses are coming to life in all major cities and towns.
* 95 percent of all prewar bank customers have service and first-time customers are opening accounts daily.
* Iraqi banks are making loans to finance businesses.
* The central bank is fully independent.
* Iraq has one of the world's most growth-oriented investment and banking laws.
* Iraq (has) a single, unified currency for the first time in 15 years.
* Satellite dishes are legal.
* Foreign journalists aren't on 10-day visas paying mandatory and extortionate fees to the Ministry of Information and other government spies.
* There is no Ministry of Information.
* There are more than 170 newspapers.
* You can buy satellite dishes on what seems like every street corner.
* Foreign journalists and everyone else are free to come and go.
* A nation that had not one single element-legislative, judicial or executive-of a representative government, does.
* In Baghdad alone residents have selected 88 advisory councils.
* Baghdad's first democratic transfer of power in 35 years happened when the city council elected its new chairman.
* Today in Iraq chambers of commerce, business, school and professional organizations are electing their leaders all over the country.
* 25 ministers, selected by the most representative governing body in Iraq's history, run the day-to-day business of government.
* The Iraqi government regularly participates in international events.
* Since July the Iraqi government has been represented in over two dozen international meetings, including those of the General Assembly, the Arab League, the World Bank and IMF and now, the Islamic Conference Summit.
* The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has announced that it is reopening over 30 Iraqi embassies around the world.
* Shia religious festivals that were all but banned aren't.
* For the first time in 35 years, in Karbala thousands of Shiites celebrate the pilgrimage of the 12th Imam.
* The Coalition has completed over 13,000 reconstruction projects, large and small, as part of a strategic plan for the reconstruction of Iraq.
* Uday and Quesay are dead-and no longer feeding innocent Iraqis to his zoo lions, raping the young daughters of local leaders to force cooperation, torturing Iraq's soccer players for losing games...murdering critics.
* Children aren't imprisoned or murdered when their parents disagree with the government.
* Political opponents aren't imprisoned, tortured, executed, maimed, or forced to watch their families die for disagreeing with Saddam.
* Millions of long-suffering Iraqis no longer live in perpetual terror.
* Saudi's will hold municipal elections.
* Qatar is reforming education to give more choices to parents.
* Jordan is accelerating market economic reforms.
* The Nobel Peace Prize was awarded for the first time to an Iranian-a Muslim woman who speaks out with courage for human rights, for democracy and for peace. Bush has not faltered or failed. and finally---
* Saddam has been captured and is in U.S. Army custody.
I've been trying to find out where this came from and how accurate it is. Very interesting read never the less.
I certainly hope they do it on TV and in public, like in Saudi Arabia or Taliban-style...:
1) Cut his head off in the middle of Kusay's old sports standium
or
2) Tie him to a post without a hood, tape his eyes open, and shoot the SOB square in the face
In either case, it should be shirtless - so the Baethist wacko's can see him quiver in fear and spasm as he dies.
John
Saddam had a deal with Martians. So do we since we have their spacecraft. So the DNA thing was simple. They can teleport DNA information.
Now the Iraqis can teach us something about criminal justice. I hope we watch and learn.
Before we hand him over we should sleep deprive him in a bright room, add Sodium Pentathol and offer him 10 more minutes of life for every important piece of information he provides. He doesn't need to be told that we will follow the self-suicidal conventions and accords agreed upon by people who could care less about our security and would violate them if it meant their own security. In a couple days we should have enough info we can let the world socialists see how he's being treated so they can stop hogging the spotlight.
i say we start with pulling his fingernails first. and then very slowly move from there. :)
I think I would prefer something more appropriately graphic.....
I think they ought to strip the SOB naked, connect his wang to the back of an old Iraqi T-33 tank with a stainless steel cable and a Kellems grip, and pull him through the streets of Baghdad until they manage to jerk his eyeballs out through his crotch.
Upon achieving that result, they should hang him up from the arm of a street light like Mussolini, pass out baseball bats, and let the Iraqis have at it.
Finally, .......grind up the left-overs and slop the pigs with 'em. No sense wasting recyclable garbage.
John
ps: "....Osama Lamma DingDong, ............you're next...."!!!
That is what I believe after staying at a Holiday Inn Express and watching CSI. lol
Now that is some funny stuff.
I'm sure that DNA sample was done with the latest and greatest technology piece out there. More than likely it was a preliminary DNA test which is something like 90% accurate over a 99.99999% accuracy on the full test.
That is what I believe after staying at a Holiday Inn Express and watching CSI. lol
Correct. Bush was told last night, Saturday about the capture and confirmed at 5am to him.
JMO, but I doubt Saddam will ever c america, the Iragi's themselves will give him a fair trial and then Hang him, after all he didn't do anything to the Amreican people.
keep kicking him in the nuts till he passes out, then when he wakes up again keeping kicking him...dont let him die tho...
no chance it is not him
they did the DNA before they announced he was captured. I thought they got him last night 8:30 @ night Iraq time which was yesterday afternoon in North America. They kept it quiet till early this AM.
So then there is a chance that it's not him after all?
There is zero chance that they have collected and analyzed a DNA sample in only a couple of hours.
As a betting man, I would wager that the DNA sample is already on its way for analysis and comparison to Uday and Qsay -- or whoever they were.
they knew it from his 2 kids who were killed
Thanks Larry!!! EOM
Susie...Blood samples from his medical files I believe. EOM
Larry...No Way!!!!! HARR!!!! EOM
Susie...Well hell must be freezing over, for we both agree on this. HARR!!! I had just said the same to my wife when I saw the film clip of him check out by U.S. doctors.
... Gary
BnB...I hope he dies real slow and in severe pain!!! This could not happen here in the U.S.
JMHO!
Troy...Good Post, And Best Wishes For You Boards Success!!!!!
Usually I would agree with your statement, but I think it better he stays alive, for now anyways! We need the world to see his fate, we need the people of Iraq to see him in chains, and the Liberals need to suffer his live capture which will haunt them, they would be much freer to talk a lot of crapp if he were dead. Their lies won't fly as well now.
BUSH IN 2004!!!
Again... Best Wishes For You're Board Bud!
you sound like a conspiracy person
As a matter of fact, I am.
Sorry but that does not make sense, he might be executed, at the very least jail for life, there is no way he wanted to be captured, first of all Saddam has always valued his own life, secondly he thought that as long as the attacks kept on coming the Americans would leave eventually, he stole billions from the iraqi people you think he cares about 25 million, the guy was carrying 750,000 in american cash at the time of his capture, you sound like a conspiracy person, most times the simplest answer is the truth
I didn't think of that Larry!
Thanks for the info.
Just heard people talking about that Sue ...
Our intelligence has been gathering info, on Saddam for years & gathered things, such as Cigar-butts, Hair-clippings and other discards, plus the DNA from Uday & Cusay is most helpful ...
So, they were ready for this day ....
I was only joking about the Video, but
would not be shocked @ seeing one ... !
According to the news the DNA proves it was him.
What I don't understand (among other things) is how they knew what his DNA was before they caught him to compare it?
Sure hope a REAL Saddam-video doesn't show him saying HARRRR.. !! Ya missed me again ... THAT was an imposter ...
Nah, but ya never know .... !
I have not completely thought this out so feel free to shoot down my theory. (just do it nicely please!)
Looking at the newsclips of Hussein after he was captured and looking at the old clips of when he lived the high life I couldn't help but think that maybe he wanted to be captured.
Who in their right mind could live the way he has been living lately??
There was a humongous reward (25 million?) for his capture. Maybe (just a theory here) he set himself up to be captured. 25 million can go a long way in funding future terrorist activities. Maybe the person (or persons) who gave him up are part of his regime and will use that money to further his goals?
Like I said, I haven't completely thought this through but it looks too set up to me right now.
One more thing.......where the hell is Bin Laden? When he is captured I will dance in the streets!
sounds good to me, but make it reaaaaaaaaal slow and painful!!!!!
How ironic it would be for him to die as the result of a terrorist action. They ought to put him secretly in a high risk building for his loyalists to target. Heck, some good disinformation could go a long way.
Hey, Saddam loyalists: George Bush (both of them) will be in this building for the next 48 hours. Plus, in order to try and keep it secret there is not much visual security. I should be an easy target.
He'll never visit here.
Leading members of the U.S.-backed Iraqi Governing Council said they would put Saddam on trial in Baghdad. He may face the death penalty as he answers for a three-decade reign of terror and for leading his oil-rich nation into three disastrous wars.
"We want Saddam to get what he deserves. I believe he will be sentenced to hundreds of death sentences at a fair trial because he's responsible for all the massacres and crimes in Iraq," said Amar al-Hakim, a senior member of the Shi'ite party the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq.
Shoot the POS I dont want my Tax $$$ feeding the POS , Do away with its worthless A$$ NOW, Dont even think about bringing it to our soil!!!!!!!!
I just wonder who was so stupid as to not put a bullet in his head. As a prisoner, he will remain to some in that part of the world a symbol of the United States political imperialism and military aggression. There will be kidnappings and terrorist activities with demands that he be set free as a condition of no further harm or damage, which we will, as we should, ignore. I am generally not in favor of killing anyone, but it is amazing how significant a difference a single bullet can make.
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