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[Mattu]

Not this time. Didn't get to go last year. :(

Trying a new mountain out -- June Mountain in California.

[ergo sum]

Aspen?

[jtomm]

Yeah, it's both bandwidth and load. But my understanding (and I'm not a techie) is that it's not what's in the feed. Nearly all feeds are small text files.

Nick Bradbury created FeedDemon. Here's a post of his that deals with how to handle things:

http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2004/09/rss_bandwidth_c.html

Marc Fletcher of Bloglines is the other guy who has written on how to handle this. This bandwidth/load issue was a real problem about two years ago. They've figured out how to handle it now. You just have to look for it.

But as an example, Leo Laporte does a weekly podcast and tried to do the feeds himself and didn't quite set things up right. AOL was hosting the audio downloads and providing all that for free. But the bandwidth cost for just his feeds, just those little text files, was like $30,000 a month.

[Mattu]

I've just added an extra option to the RSS-Add Feed page.

I've added the code for anybody with a website to embed an RSS feed for any board directly into their site.

Have an EDIG cult fan site? Add the board feed to the site.

Have a website presence and a forum presence here? Stream the latest messages right into your website.

Lots of options. We'll play with the board feed display options next week. Also need to add more 'Add to [site]' icons.

I'm done playing for the weekend. Time to pack for skiing!

[Mattu]

I've already alerted Dave to keep an eye on the logs/bandwidth and we'll see how we need to manage it, if it catches fire.

Fortunately, we're set up for unlimited bandwidth. We only get in trouble if we get really insane with it, but the vast majority of our traffic is simply text and not graphics, so we'd have to be doing some insane feed syndication to tick off our ISP.

I'm more concerned about the load on the servers than I am about bandwidth...

[jtomm]

Bandwidth. Just one more thing, Matt. Sounds like you're just getting familiar with RSS. If you're not familiar with how to set it up, I'd suggest you do a search for how to handle the bandwidth regarding RSS. If you don't set things up right on the server side, you may find yourself nailed with a huge bandwidth bill.

The centralized aggregators like yahoo and bloglines only poll your feeds once an hour. But when someone downloads a client, they might set it to check every minute. There are solutions to limit its impact. But if you don't do it, you could have a huge bandwidth bill.

[Mattu]

Dude! That is SLICK. I'm a huge fan of Medved QuoteTracker.

http://www.quotetracker.com [Hi, Jerry! ;) ]

Here's how you can use it:

Say you're a trader of BB/pinks.

Almost every hot one hits BB's Haven. Add BB's Haven (or whatever other board you like) to your RSS feed.

You can filter the news based on what ticker shows up in the header.

Basically, if a stock is on your list and it gets talked about on BB's board, you get a news alert. I think. Will test during market hours.

Either way, it's cool!

[ergo sum]

Feeds.
http://radio.xmlstoragesystem.com/rcsPublic/rssHotlist

http://www.syndic8.com/

[99Dan]

Matt,

I like the new RSS feature so far. It should be very helpful for keeping an eye on some of the boards to see the latest posts. I downloaded (if that is the right term) four boards so far. Only one shows a title but I saw your note about taking time for the title info to arrive. Here is a screen shot. I'm using the "My Yahoo" page.

[jtomm]

Matt, I'm fairly familiar with RSS. Bloglines has the biggest market share by far. You need to have buttons for them. Here's how to add subscription buttons:

http://www.bloglines.com/about/subscribe

You should use one of the first two in the left hand column. Why? Because that little icon is going to be the standard from here on out:

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Mozilla,_Internet_Explorer_adopt_universal_RSS_symbol

I use Bloglines. A lot. But frankly, as you have it set up now, I would not use the RSS feature on Ihub as you have it designed. In Bloglines, all that shows up are the Ihub headlines, then I have to click through to Ihub. You'd be better off sending the entire post and experimenting with ads in the feed. But even that doesn't make much sense because most people will want to read more than one message, so I'd think they'll be coming to the website. Gotta do that to post anyway.

Here's something you could offer by RSS that I think would be great. A stock price alert feature. Yes, a lot of brokerage accounts allow you to set alerts, but there's usually some sort of limit on the number of symbols. If I could read about a stock on Ihub and then create an rss alert feed right within Ihub, that would be great. Something simple like:

Enter ticker symbol:

Price rises to:

Price falls to:

Click a button and it creates a feed for whenver either of those two things occur. Use Yahoo quotes because they cover markets from all around the world. I may see a great stock, but am not interested unless it gets down to a certain price level, and that might be three months from now. It's tough to remember all your target prices on a regular watch list. Frankly, I'd rather not have to look at all the prices, but just be notified whenever one hits my price target. Then I can start paying closer attention.

Just set a feed for it and then don't have to look at it on a daily basis.

Anyway, just an idea. I have no idea how tough it would be to implement.

But you should add Bloglines to your ibox on feed readers.

[Mattu]

It takes like an hour for it to build the title into it because it's new. It'll be there.

[sukycospito]

okay--I'll see what happens--thanks!

[PappaJohn]

"Just added an iHUB board to My Yahoo and works great--

HOWEVER, I notice the box that contains the iHUB posts has no title. (Or is the correct word header?) All of the other My Yahoo modules have titles at their top."

I did the same thing and had the same result last evening. Upon firing up ye ol' laptop this morning, there appeared a header on the module. Don't know if it was rebooting that did it or an IT elf visited overnight.

[clouser]

Looks like there's a similarity to NewsGroup Readers. Yes ?

[j3pflynn]

Matt - Is it possible to set up a link usable in one's browser bookmarks like the BBC has here?
http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_world_edition/front_page/rss.xml
It's nice to be able to go directly to one of their latest news stories(constantly updated in the browser shortcut), and would be nice to be able to go directly to one of the latest board posts without having to first open up the page and then scan the posts.

This works in Firefox, I can't speak for the other browsers.

Details on Firefox support here:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/RSS_feeds_%28Firefox%29

They call it a "live bookmark"

[sukycospito]

Just added an iHUB board to My Yahoo and works great--

HOWEVER, I notice the box that contains the iHUB posts has no title. (Or is the correct word header?) All of the other My Yahoo modules have titles at their top.

Don't know if that can be resolved by iHUB or My Yahoo. I tried the Edit function, but it only allows you to move the module around the My Yahoo page, not to add a title.

[extelecom]

Interesting Matt, One can pipe IHUB directly into Quotetracker news reader and have multiple boards fed in with RSS, all interlaced with streaming news apparently... Haven't figured out how to make it log into IHUB so one can reply to the posts yet though, user id / password doesn't seem to work... Also looks like QT will only check every 10 minutes. Not sure if this is a useful feature for me or not, but nice to know it is there.

[ergo sum]

I don't understand the filters and attracters. It strikes me that this is more a filter than an attracter.

[Mattu]

I've spent very little time on RSS, but this is my favorite reader so far:

http://www.curiostudio.com/

[ergo sum]

Okay so I downloaded this
http://www.sharpreader.net/
Then I had to do a Windows update because I live in the stone age.
That Works.

[The Original dpb5!]

Why should I have to do all that if I can already see all that stuff right here on IHUB??

I can already SEE all I need to see here on IHUB, so why would I need this RSS feed?

[getmynaz]

well you can 'import' your most favorite boards of ihub into your 'my yahoo' page, or others.

For example: you want to see your shares, you want to see the news on them, and you want to see the 'boards' of those stocks, well with this rss technologie you just click the link matt provedes and like that you import the message boards you want into your 'my yahoo', not the total baord off-course but the last messages posted.

offcourse it's not something to shock the world with, but it's nice to add. Yopu can have all the important news and messages on one page now.

[The Original dpb5!]

so, it's just a personalized MYYAHOO page?

[getmynaz]

It's great!

I use it on 'my yahoo', and like that you have a good overview on all the 'news' that is important to you. All along creating a 'My Yahoo' page is the best thing you can do if you have to trade like me with little time in the day.

you can have your real-time portfolio in it with the news from it's stocks, your mail is integrated as is Ihub now, it works fine.

[The Original dpb5!]

Matt,

Can you supply us a link or give us an example of how you mean that this RSS Technology can help us?

[The Original dpb5!]

So, what exactly are we supposed to DO with the RSS link you've added?

Confused here, as I suspect others are, too.

[The Original dpb5!]

Nope. It's NOT clear as mud.

Can you explain it any better to make the mud clearer?

LOL!

[junkmasterg]

Pluck is a good reader for IE users....

http://www.pluck.com/products/rss-reader.html

[Mattu]

Here's a long, but detailed FAQ on it.

http://my.yahoo.com/s/rss-faq.html

Basically, it's a way to syndicate/broadcast web content (mostly blogs, news, message boards) in a standarized format.

In other words, you can view our message boards [or header information for messages] from within a program or website you already use to aggregrate news.

Clear as mud?

It's new technology. I wanted to make sure we were embracing it. :)

[frankie_fillet]

what exactly is an rss feed?

real

[MrBankRoll]

Great! Keep up the good work. Please keep messin' with the site till ya break it!

I need I-hub broke for a couple of days.

You need it busted for at least 3!

Thank You!

[Art2Gecko]

hey cool, i added a few boards to my "my yahoo" homepage.... neato Matt.

[arthritis65]

[Mattu]

I've added an icon to the top of every board that will make adding the RSS feed for each board easy.

Open to ideas on how to improve the RSS feed.

I'm pretty fascinated with the technology.

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[chichi2]

Bob Zumbrunnen , do you know how we might post StockCharts Global or some times called Glance charts to work on iHub.

I can not show you an example on iHub because it changes the vertical line character to a slant line and thus causes the last graph or last couple of graphs to be missing, and iHub in changing that delimiter it modifies the timeframe and Indicators.

i will point to the type of chart post we are having to put on Raging Bull as if we copy it to iHub it will modify the vertical lines characters at the end of the URL. This post at RB has several of these Glance URLs so you can see them.

Has anyone solved using these type of StockCharts on iHub. (they are very powerful as they show multiple timeframes for the same ticker. it is an effective way to study multiple stocks and timeframes.

TIA. Chichi2

here is the URL (note the vertical delimiters near the end of each URL; iHub automatically changes those into slant lines making the URLs incorrect.)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=DRBOB&read=88267

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