Premier Holding Corp. (fka PRHL)

[Stef07]

Will he have to give up his shares if he is banned and will you be able to take over Elliot?

[Elliot09]

SEC to file Dispositive Motion by August 19th
Defendant to file Opposition Papers by September 2nd
SEC to file Reply Papers by Sept 9th
Court to listen to Arguments on Sept 21st at 1:30 PM.

It looks like this matter will finally get adjudicated by the Court

[Elliot09]

What transpired at the last court appearance??
I can find no actions in the court records
Please post any news you may have learned

[kber]

we can only hope , for a long time . I've done as much as I think I could have , I probably have 1000 hrs into this real easy . hopefully the SEC does their job and locks him up instead of a swat on the fingers like they did in michigan years ago. he has since moved into the big time and hopefully the SEC sees that and acts accordingly. this is only 1 incident in the 15-20 scams he's running so maybe there will be more coming??????? Bennett is not at liberty to say . I know the state of california has something in the works , but wont say either....hope he rots in prison (next to Bernie madoff) I have at least 2 years of time and money invested in prhl working 7 days a week and sometimes 30 hrs without sleep . so I can say what I say . lets just hope the pos hasnt used our personal info in any illegal ways???? keep watch of your credit bureau status please

[Stef07]

Thanks for the update Kuber! He is so going to jail!!! Can’t wait for it!

[kber]

actually I missed this in docket 170 defendants have till july 6 ,2020 to file opposition to charges for Randall walking out of his deposition and to further discovery and as to why they shouldnt be charged with failure to respond to the courts orders. (seriuos stuff) and the SEC has till july 16 to reply to those oppositions and is set for trial on july 27.2020 @1:30 or as the court schedules allow... the SEC still wants to depose Randall further and is being met with everything Randall can think of includeing falling in the shower and hitting his head as to "make it hard to remember" ??? Randal knows the SEC has him in the chute and are ready to put the elastrator bands on ( and he deserves it)him... maybe this will shut down the "fraud factory" he has built????? just my thoughts

[kber]

as of 12:04am tuesday there is nothing new posted as to what happened today, if it happened,there is nothing uploaded yet , yes Randall has a new scam going now and I feel comfortable calling it that because I'm sure he's not changed his ways . its onit sciences organized by megan this time,although I dont think she has any say in the matter , just a paper shuffler for randall, so randals name stays a little ways away . supposedly selling fertilizer to the pot industry. tell me how is he going to generate sales if he dont leave the office? ,as far as I've seen the man has never done a day of physical labor in his life??? thats ok im way out in front of them on this one. prove me wrong???

[Elliot09]

Today, June 15, 2020, there is supposed to be a status conference in court. This will tell us where we stand and what direction this case is going. Someone has to access the court records via a legal service and that will explain what went on in court today. If any information is found, please post it.

[kber]

Nothing we can do about the scheduling conference by phone ,I think our best bet to see anything happen is for all of us to send an email to the sr lead council of the SEC mr Bennett Ellenbogen urgeing a "NO PLEA" deal and have it go to trial? Mr Ellengogen's email is : [e-mail] .reference the prhl/randall letcavage case number 8:18-cv-00813 (central dist of ca.)Maybe just a quick note ,rather then a long story , maybe the amount scammed from you and a desire to see justice done,also make it a point to ask for restitution in this matter. we as investors will have some say as long as we ALL sound off , which we havent done to this point LETS BE HEARD!!!!
As for the AOTS shares I think we will never see them as investor as randall had all the voting shares , again has voted himself as the beneficiary of any product our investment has earned . Shaddie and Rick are now up a notch on the latter to learning how to scam people one or both now sit on the board??!!!they were the only ones making a return on their money with randall ,upwards of 10%. more as I know it

[Bigspirit1]

Thank you. Agreed

[Elliot09]

Keber, Would you please provide all the legal information regarding the next court dates and subject matter and any other information regarding the legal activity. The name and phone number of the SEC attorney handling the case would be helpful. Location of the court and time of the next hearing would also be helpful. If anyone is interested in getting justice, this is the time to get involved. After the fact we may all be regretting our inactivity.

[kber]

the may 11th pretrial conference has been extended till june 15 @1:30pm, telephone conference call allowed due to the china virus. if all goes as it SHOULD, it should be set for trial , unless we get sold out by the SEC and slap Randall on the wrist again. Maybe next time he falls in the shower(as he claimed he did)it will be his last one????? Id rather see him in prison and loseing the soap on the floor . ???????!!!!!!!!! lol I heard the prisons are now useing powder soap ????? (harder to pick up?) couldnt happen to a nicer person in my eyes!!!
thats all folks. not much entertainment for the price we paid for admission??

[Bigspirit1]

Can you please provide an update? I don’t follow the legal websites.

[kber]

No settlment offers on the table that I know of , but I wont know them till they go public info

[kber]

violations are still as charged in 2017 ,thats how slow the wheels of justice turn!!! I just hope they are turning the right way!! the link is here:https://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2017/lr24000.htm
as the owner of the shell corp(according to SEC filings) before Randall took over and also a board of director , Im surprised that your not more on top of it???
Randall now does not currently have a working email address that I know of , the ones listed on the websites all go nowhere , just like any investment anyone has had with randall.this guy is a con man since birth I believe .or at least his early 20's when he got caught in michigan with someone elses money in his account . I bet the IRS will have a different story to tell then the SEC????? I'm just waiting for the Ca. DBO to sink their claws into him too?!! his troubles have just begun , with a seperate lawsuit from the chinese ongoing ,plus a labor dispute with a worker , makes for an interesting life im sure !!!

[Elliot09]

Keber, What are the current violations against Randall at this time?
Where can I see the charges brought against him?
Have there been any negotiations with the SEC thus far?

[derkampfer]

Thx. Will do. And let you know response when it comes back

[kber]

the case mgmt meeting is a pre-trial meeting set by the judge to see if any plea agreement has been made it is listed in wikipedia as such . the judge will set out a timeline to have all papers in order and if a trial is to be held , determine a date and a pathway to proceed. we as investors need to email or write to the SEC about this in an effort for them to prosecute Randall for all he's done and restitution to the investors!!!! I'm hoping this is just the first of many vioations the SEC has on him. Here is the email address of sr. council of the SEC Bennett Ellenbogen: [e-mail]
case Number 8:18-cv-00813 central dist of ca.phone # [phone] hope this helps!!! we need to contact Mr Ellenbogen to let him know our thoughts on this matter and to not litigate a plea agreement!!!! prosecute as charged!!!!!

[derkampfer]

KBer. What’s the case management meeting about?

[kber]

the case mgmt conference scheduled for May 11th has been rescheduled to June 15th due to covid . 1:30 pm and by phone . Randall just added another atty from SanJose to his team to keep his criminal A$$ out of jail

[Elliot09]

Steph07: I don't think reversing the AOTS deal is possible. A more direct approach would be to freeze the 19.25 million shares of AOTS that PRHL holds at this time and review the distribution of those AOTS shares to the rightful PRHL shareholders. The problem is, on May 4, 2019, the Record Date, there were 623,836,828 shares of PRHL issued and outstanding. On July 15, 2019 there were 1,341,293,851 shares of PRHL issued and outstanding. Here is where the issue lies. Who got those shares and why did they get those shares. I think a thorough review of those issued after May 4, 2019 is where the question lies. Someone has to look at that activity closely. I think all our questions will be answered if that review is accomplished. Issuing shares after the record date is unheard of and that needs to be resolved.

[Stef07]

My only thought was to get the TPC deal reversed until they investigate this whole deal. It’s a shame that he can sell the assets and most likely he will get the majority of the shares. Gee aren’t we glad he got those preferreds for voting rights only.. Hook line and sinker!!!

[kber]

as a 10% shareholder and ex board member you should be able to figure it out . it will be a complete loss for the investors unless the SEC orders monies to be repaid . it dont do no good to post links and referneces if you cant connect the dots. you dont believe anything anyone says and you will support what others do but wont take part or participate n a class action against this clown?????? we need to pressure the SEC with all we can for them to act on our behalf. I'm going to try different tactics to see if I get different results dealing with randall as the fraudster doesnt respond to any form of communication
the only number I believe that randall has ever put out is the -10.53 million on the stats page . he's proud of that!!!!

[Elliot09]

Step07: The problem is, what do you claim has happened and what are the facts. Since there is no information available, calling the SEC makes one look ignorant and vindictive. I think it would be best to have an attorney contact the SEC and have as much information available so the the attorney is believable. No question the shareholders are going to take a bath. How much and to what degree I don't know. Whatever you decide to do, let us know to support the effort.

[derkampfer]

We would definitely want to participate in a class action against PRHL. Lost a bunch of money here. Fraudulent criminals. Just let us know kber.

[kber]

We just need the SEC to do their job and prosecute this fraudster to the fullest with no deals and returning investors money

[Stef07]

Do we need the SEC to block this deal so we don’t get ripped off anymore from Randy?

[Elliot09]

There has been an inordinate amount of time without any announcement from PRHL. We should hear something even if it is a simple message like we are working on it. No word on how AOTS is doing and that is crucial if we are to recover anything as PRHL shareholders.

[Elliot09]

PRHL is up 89% today but that probably represents nothing since the trading has been so skimpy.

[Elliot09]

Garyst: In fact the I & O of 1.4 billion is huge and doubled in 2019. The flout increased a small amount meaning that there are a lot of restricted shares not yet freed up. If PRHL could find a merger partner, this stock would skyrocket. The dividend of AOTS shares is still to be distributed to the PRHL shareholder as of the Record Date of May 4, 2019.

[Garyst]

Thanks. Yeah, seems to be very small.

[Elliot09]

I believe the current I & O is about 1.4 billion shares.
I don't know what the float is, but it is a much smaller number.

[kber]

what the hell kind of news do you want?? you ask whats going on and an update is given and you dont believe it , then ask again the next day when a total of 4.00 changes hands and your all giddy eyed and hoping to retire?????? its the market makers cleaning up their stock , look outside Ihub and you will see . look at OTC markets . just accept the fact that Randall has defrauded us all and has put the money in his name , by selling it to westmark , shows me that richard is just as crooked and from the finra report ,is.
its NOT an investor selling his or her shares(or buying) at even 9.95 per trade for 4.00 worth of stock???most of us probably spend more then that a day on coffee. maybe not haveing toilet paper makes people this way??? Fail to prepare= prepare to fail

[Garyst]

You know what the float is currently or the # of outstanding shares?

[Elliot09]

Two days in a row and PRHL really sank. Today 475,000 shares bought so far and the stock is up 235% to .00225. What's up doc, does anybody know anything?

[kber]

case mgmt hearing set for(today) 3.23 at 1:30 has been rescheduled till may 11 at 1:30(probably allowing the worm to try to get out of this whole deal??)

[Elliot09]

Silence is usually golden but I doubt that in this case.
Does anybody know the status of the litigation against PRHL?

[kber]

looks like a new atty and maybe a set aside is possible?? new atty made motion to set aside the judgements and that will be heard on 3.23.2020 @1:30... kinda funny how after not replying and following judges orders ,now he wants it to all just go away!!!????? what an asshat!!!! I say leave it as it is and let him pay the piper .
new email to the SEC tonight and to the ca. lawyers for the chinese

[48tommy]

yeah if you can send it to [e-mail] I would really appreciate it.

[kber]

I can send them to oyu by email but I cant publish them on this forum
pacer.gov, 8:18 cv00813

[48tommy]

kber would you mind sending me the SEC judgement you are referencing about Randall?

[kber]

so you dont think the numbers are real????? where do you suppose I got them ??????pulled them out of my a$$?? came right off the official government website!!! thats where . and you still doubt it ??????maybe the investors need to know who Randall bought the shell company from??? sounds like a democratic board here as noone wants to hear the truth , well I said it and if it hurts, its too bad , I got hurt just as bad in this scam.Richard now appears is fighting the chinese (probably realized Randall scammed him too????) by not telling him the status of litigation???? he either has to go along with it or come clean and expose the whole scam???? just my thoughts

[kber]

try this on for size

https://unicourt.com/case/ca-la23-shao-shu-zhang-et-al-vs-premier-holding-corporation-et-al-237996?fbclid=IwAR1q8CsxWExx8-gH9OwhBB_iJApdpjbNtviCp557HjsrO-Mj1BZF1Js93f0.



this is completely seperate from what the sec is doing

[kber]

elliot 09 You have me blocked to send you info and I dont know how else to get it to you , its on the central ca. district court on pacer. fax #? got the 3 judgements in my hand as I printed them out , stored them and cannot put them in this forum no how

[Elliot09]

Does anybody have any facts that are real and not just wishful thinking? Keber's posts can't be proven to be real. It appears Randy is not in jail and the Transfer Agent's phone still works al beit on a message machine. I would like to see the latest court documents because that is all I can trust.

[Elliot09]

Keber, I read all 4 of your Posts and I would like to be able to read the SEC reports myself. Give me clear instructions how to access the SEC reports

[kber]

after looking at the docs I see prhl is liable for 9,261,731.99 and randall is liable for 10,671,308.15 so it looks like it was bigger then I thought , so the number represented on the ihub site as -10.5m is only the 1/2 of the deal?????? a lot of money to come up with in 14 days , but being a banker , even if he got to use that money for 3 years and paid no interest to the shareholders he still would have made a lot of money off of us. I do not believe he will submit the payments and will be held in contempt:). kinda funny the transfer agents phone number is no longer in service either?? maybe the best resolve to this cse would be to be made whole again???? I think it is the best we could ask for. even with our shares in AOTS I doubt richard will do anything better then randall did with it.I think randall had this all planned and tried to get out from under it by selling prhl to get money to pay off the SEC bill he saw coming ,?????/ ponzi scheme style?? just my thoughts

[kber]

Well he's not in jail like we hoped but I do believe his $hithouse has collapsed in on itsself to a large degree: all the paperwork is done and it will be signed 2/24/2020 by the judge. in essence it says that prhl and Randall cant violate the same statutes that got them in trouble and I'm sure he's fine with that ,being all the money he embezzled is now in icapital (private) where he dont have to worry about the SEC. but the 10 million that he will owe to the us treasury and payable within 14 days is going to be a sad day in his life . I can only hope the SEC will distribute investor monies back to us????Greenblatt got thrown under the bus kinda and has less then 50k to pay within 14 days to the treasury, so he got off esy (maybe 1st time?)
Now randall may or maynot pay that , if not ,it will be contempt of court and if he does maybe it will be disbursed to the shareholders???? but being prhl was sold to AOTS , I dont think the liability passes to them ????so Randall has a lot of money to repay either way . maybe that is why prhl went "into" AOTS? I bet richard is nervous too as the SEC has to be looking at the deal Randall made . I'm writing the SEC after get this done and shed more light on things.prhl judgement is 6 pages Randalls is 8 pages and greenblatts6. the SEC has 309 pages of supporting evidence and 20 pages of briefs in this case. hope this helps

[Stef07]

Hopefully he’s in jail now if he was in court!

[Bigspirit1]

Was Letcavage in court last week?