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Added on your recommendation and my gut feeling
I have no faith in PGM but I do have faith in Impala just because they are a billion dollar company. Once they take control of the majority ownership of this mine then we will be fine. The news should come in the next month or so.
Too much for me to understand
Seems like, the $212M/yr positive cash flow based on the worth of
the materials mined, minus the cost of mining,
must be divided up a lot
Mine owner
Miner operator
Smelter
Meanwhile, 3 years to begin ops, and we're leaking about $16M a year
with a $95M market cap.
So with that margin, what are we looking at ?
Sell the mine to a smelter guys ? $1.2B
Or continue to struggle along the narrow path, debt, delay, build,
Meanwhile we don't really own it yet ? We have exploration rights,
but not yet mine rights/license ?
I have no idea how this industry goes.
There is only so many PGM mines in the world. Impala will not pass this up.
Key paragraphs of PR..IMO
RISKS
Permitting timing and conditions are beyond Waterberg JV control and may result in delays or increased costs. The application for the Mining Right has been submitted and is yet to be granted. The area is somewhat underdeveloped, and the construction of considerable infrastructure is required.
Skills development is a key to the large-scale production with efficient modern international mining methods. The mitigation to this risk is the investment in training early in the Project construction and this has been planned and costed.
The palladium market appears to be strong and in deficit. The Project has a considerable ramp up period and a long-life and the metals markets are difficult to predict 10 -20 years in the future. Although Implats holds a right of first refusal to smelt and refine Waterberg concentrate, Waterberg JV does not presently have a smelter agreement to sell its product, although the concentrate appears to be attractive and production is shrinking in other parts of the market.
NEXT STEPS
A contractual process follows the publication of the DFS, enabling Implats the opportunity to review all the elements and the outcomes of the DFS and to formally accept the study as well as to decide their level of participation in the Project's implementation phase. Waterberg JV will continue with work on environmental, community and government interactions and approvals for the grant of the Mining Right and required permits.
Finally some Waterberg news with a lot to digest
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/platinum-group-metals-ltd-announces-110000204.html
Implats will have an option for 90 days to review the DFS and elect to exercise an option to increase its interest to up to 50.01%
More seesaw action. Need some news on the DFS!
seems to be the typical pattern, just when you think there's a breakout, back down it goes
Umm..not sure why such big pull back.
Yea that's awesome, all we need is some good news on the mine.
They paid off their debt, secured new funding, finishing up their DFS, got a 15 year mine in their pocket, and a billion dollar investment group backing. I would say things are looking good.
if it goes to $5, it could go to $50, i think i hold, need some news to see whats going on, sucks not being in the know crowd
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Sold way too early! This will be $5 at least.
Bought PLG for $1.28 on 8/21 and sold today for $1.86 - not bad for a one week trade.
This is definitely a POS stock! This was a $40 stock 3 years ago.
This is definitely a gamble stock. But I see the light at the end of tunnel soon. Few dollars easy once impala is all in.
Great to hear something, but how close to pulling something out of the ground? that be nice to know
News: $PLG Platinum Group Metals Closes US$10.4 Million Bought Deal Financing, US$9.2 and US$10 Million Private Placement Financings, Establishes a US$ 20 Million 2-3 Year Credit Facility and Repays Existing US$43 Million Credit Facility
Vancouver, British Columbia--(Newsfile Corp. - August 21, 2019) - Platinum Group Metals Ltd. (TSX: PTM) (NYSE American: PLG) (the "Company" or "Platinum Group Metals") announces the closing of its previously announced bought deal financing with BMO Capital Markets in the United States, under w...
Got this from Platinum Group Metals Closes US$10.4 Million Bought Deal Financing, US$9.2 and US$10 Million Private Placement Financings, Establishes a US$ 20 Million 2-3 Year Credit Facility and Repays Existing US$43 Million Credit Facility
Thank you investmemt group ....we will be okay now
Still holding, got the time, need some real news to light the fire, they surely have to be making progress.
Whats the read on this stock guys? They got the right to the mines so that's never going to disappear and its a good mine. It seems they are raising money but that does not necessarily mean that the stock price will go down.
Usually is bad...bec it means they need to raise more fund to continue, however the end of the tunnel would be the waterberg project if they can get it moving forward and get the big boys to play
Is this good or bad guys?
they just filed a prospectus to issue up to $200 million in additional stock.
It suppose to be 2nd qtr of 2019
I thought they'd said this August... I must have missed an update
Hopefully they are just taking time to negotiate a good deal
Whats up with this intentional downward pressure...you can tell its just ready to explode
I wish I had more money to average down
wow what a gift they are taking it down to next support.
I might buy back in tomorrow. definitely on my watch list. it's as if the MMers now the news is coming and pushing it down.
I want to buy my shares back at $1.40 and asked the MMers to make it happen.
Thanks sounds good to me!
Should be about time for some Waterberg updates, if positive enough - time to make some money
Wow I was here before the RS it looks to be doing better than ever what you all think it’s seriously going to?
Same here. Looks like its time to get back in. Uptrend and accumulation are too convincing to sit on the sideline
somewhere around 30M
hey guys. I was here like 3 years ago pre split sold after it spiked. What are the issued common stock? Thanks E
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http://www.platinumgroupmetals.net
Platinum Group Metals Ltd. is based in Vancouver, BC, Canada and Johannesburg, South Africa. Platinum Group has a solid management team with successful track records of more than 20 years in exploration, mine discovery, mine construction and mine operations.
The Company was formed in 2000 and is focused on the development of platinum operations. It holds significant mineral rights in the Bushveld Igneous Complex of South Africa, host to 80% of the World's platinum production. View a demonstration of how the Bushveld was formed.
The Company is focused on moving its first, high-grade, near-surface Western Bushveld Joint Venture (WBJV) platinum deposit to production - Project 1. A positive Final Feasibility Study for the Project 1 platinum mine was published on July 7, 2008.
Subject to regulatory and other approvals and the completion of definitive agreements Platinum Group will have a 74% ownership of Project 1 under the restructuring announced September 2nd.
Platinum Group also holds a 100 square kilometre position in the Sable Joint Venture adjoining a recent Xstrata takeover land position.
Famed investor George Soros' Soros Fund Management disclosed a couple updates to positions Monday. After a flurry of stock activity on Oct. 22, the fund disclosed holdings of 15.5 million shares, or a 9.7% stake, in Platinum Group Metals Ltd., a mining firm based in Vancouver, Canada and Johannesburg, South Africa. According to FactSet Lionshares, Soros had a 1.5 million-share stake in the firm at the end of June
WATERBERG
The Waterberg project is located north of the known North Limb of the Bushveld Complex. This extension of the Bushveld was discovered in 2011 by Platinum Group Metals after execution of a drilling program, through the covering Waterberg sedimentary rock package, guided by geophysics and soil sampling.
An initial 6.6 million ounce 3E (Platinum, Palladium and Gold) inferred mineral resource estimate for the newly discovered deposit was announced on September 5th, 2012 (see details at www.sedar.com). The inferred mineral resource estimate includes both "T" and "F" mineralized layers. The most important layers are the 3 to 6 metre thick "T1" and "T2" layers. The T layers are very well correlated in terms of geochemical markers and lithology and have a characteristic metal split of approximately 48% Palladium, 29% Platinum and 23% Gold. Within the "F" layer are two sub-layers which are approximately 5.27 metres thick on average, having an approximate metal split of 63% Palladium and 33% Platinum with 4% Gold. The resource considers the first 16 holes of 34 holes completed.
On September 17th 2012, the Company announced the new discovery area of layered mineralization had been significantly explanded outside of the declared inferred resources of 6.6 million ounces. The initial resource covers a strike length of 1.8 kilometres on the T layers and 2.8 kilometers on the "F" layers. Intercepts have been made on the T1 and T2 layers that expand the area for approximately 1.5 kilometers northeast from the initial resource area and on the "FH" and "FP" the layers new intercepts have also expanded this area for approximately 2.5 kilometers.
Exploration Potential and Plans
Waterberg is Extraordinary Because:
History of the Waterberg Discovery
How Could this Happen?
In 2009, Platinum Group Metals filed prospecting permits by application covering 137 square kilometers of the north end of the known North Limb of the Bushveld Complex. The idea for the acquisition of the claims came from the formation of a "New Business Unit" in 2007. Top South African academic and industry geologists were retained on a consulting basis with the specific task of coming up with brand new ideas for platinum exploration beyond the limits of the classic model of the Bushveld Complex, which dates back to 80 years ago. This group cam up with 85 ideas and ranked them. Platinum Group Metals staked the top four ideas, with Waterberg being one of them. We continue to examine greenfield and brownfield exploration opportunities that are "out of the box" based on historic assumptions. This work took place while exploration for PGMs was declining.
In Octover 2009, a joint venture agreement with JOGMEC to earn a 37% project interest for $3.2 million in exploration work was finalized. Exploration work commenced in 2010. Platinum Group Metals retained a 37% interest, while a Black Economic Empowerment
group held a 26% interest. On November 7, 2011, Platinum Group Metals acquired 49.9% of the issued and outstanding shares of the BEE company from the existing shareholders in exchange for cash payments totaling R 1.2 million. The Company also assumed the duty to pay for the BEE company's 26% share of project costs to feasibility. When combined with the Company's 37% direct interest in the Waterberg Project, the 12.974% indirect interest acquired through the BEE company brings Platinum Group Metals' effective project interest to 49.974%. The BEE company remains over 50% held and controlled by historically disadvantaged South Africans. Platinum Group Metals is the operator of the project.
The basic idea for exploration at Waterberg was based on the potential for an extension of the Bushveld Complex where almost no exploration had occurred before. JOGMEC funded detailed work over a large area including geology, gravity and magnetic surveys.
The likelihood the Bushveld existed under sedimentary cover at shallow depths was quite high with geochemistry indicating a unique geological setting. Soils hundreds of meters above the Bushveld contained elevated levels of copper, nickel and platinum group elements. The first holes intersected shallow Bushveld with the first mineralized layers becoming apparent in the third drill hole
The WBJV Project 1 has advanced to construction. We are currently focused on developing our underground access decline tunnels.
Operations on site have included the establishment of surface infrastructure, connection to the grid and pipelines for power and water, completion of two surface "box cut" excavations for getting at hard rock and the commencement of underground tunneling of twin declines. All of this has been done with a team of approximately 370 people over one year. We have done this safely and efficiently.
The WBJV Project 1 Platinum Mine is owned 74% by Platinum Group Metals Ltd. and 26% by Wesizwe Platinum Limited (WEZ-JSE). Wesizwe is owned 45% by Jinchuan Group, a state owned company from China. Wesizwe is building the adjoining Bakubung Platinum Mine, a deeper mine with a cost recently estimated at USD$1.5 billion. The WBJV Project 1 operating level company Maseve has worked well with Wesizwe to research potential synergies over the past year. A proposal for a joint processing facility with Wesizwe-Jinchuan has been discussed but no decision has been made to move forward at this time.
The mine building teams in the area of the WBJV are also working well together. The Wesizwe-Jinchuan, Royal Bafokeng Platinum and Platinum Group Metals teams meet regularly to discuss synergies from basic infrastructure to training and security. Social and training responsibilities are an area where synergies are being achieved. For example, the training center at the adjoining Royal Bafokeng Platinum BRPM mine is being accessed by WBJV Project 1 contractors.
Operations and construction at the WBJV Project 1 Platinum Mine have proceeded uninterrupted through 2012. Underground development has steadily accelerated due to good underground rock conditions and consistent, systematic operating procedures. Our mining contractor, JIC Mining Services has adopted our operating, communication and local hiring approaches.
Platinum Group Metals added to its operating team during the year including project management and safety supervision personnel. DRA Group, an experienced EPCM (Engineering, Procurement and Construction Management) engineering firm, has also provided additional management support. The teams have worked well together and this is reflected in the solid development performance.
Phase 2
The second phase of the mine development involving the south declines and the construction of the mill facilities will proceed immediately upon completion of the senior loan facility and equity financing. However, the south box cut, originally in the Phase 2 plan, was added to our Phase 1 construction program and has now been completed. The south underground declines are ready to start.
The planned mining method is "conventional" with mechanized development. The conventional mining method involves a large labour component and is a proven reliable, safe mining method with less dilution of the ore with surrounding waste rock compared to full mechanized mining.
The target of early mining is the Merensky Reef which is higher in grade than the UG-2 layer, also mined in the Western Limb of the Bushveld Complex. In our case, both layers are near to surface. The UG-2 layer will be mined in the second half of the mine plan.
From a smelting perspective, Merensky concentrate is more attractive than UG-2 concentrate as it has lower chrome content and requires less processing. Chrome is a penalty element in platinum smelters. The majority of platinum mined in South Africa is now UG2 associated resulting in significant demand for Merensky based concentrate. The desirability of the WBJV Merensky concentrate has been confirmed by the recent off-take agreement in process with Anglo Platinum, the world's largest PGM producer.
The mill is designed to process 140,000 to 160,000 tonnes per month of ore from the underground mine. The target for commissioning of the plant is in 2014.
Project Objective: | To develop a world class, safe, modern, profitable platinum mine |
Safety Record: | 940,000 man hours worked with only two minor lost time incidents, 370 persons on site at time of writing |
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Scale: | 275,000 ounces of Platinum, Palladium, Rhodium and Gold/yr 4E Steady State |
Metals Rations Merensky: | 64% PT, 27% Pd, 4% Rh, 5% Au |
Metals Ratio UG-2: | 63% Pt, 26% Pd, 10% Rh, 1% Au |
Production Target: | 2014 |
Permit Stage: | Mining Right approved on April 4, 2012 |
Access & Infrastructure: | Paved highway, 30 min from Rustenburg smelters, power and water connected, adjacent to 70% of world's platinum mines |
Initial Investment: | USD$100M funded and near completion |
Estimated Capital Cost: | USD$506 million |
Resources: | 8.2 million ounces 4E just on Project 1 (M+1) |
Reserves: | 4.7 million ounces 4E (P+P) |
Mine Life: | 20 years+ |
By Products: | Nickel, Copper, Iridium and Osmium |
Project Debt Planned: | USD$260 million |
Project Advance: | 700 meters of twin underground development |
Ore Intercept Target: | Calendar early 2013 |
Project Schedule: | 10 weeks behind target set in January 2011 |
Banking Mandate Leads: | Barclays/Absa, Standard Bank, Societe Generale and CAT |
Banking Stage: | Technical and legal due diligence complete and now in final credit committee approval process |
Hedging: | Pt minimal, focused on by-products Pd, Au, Base Metals |
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