Outdoor Adventures (OUTDR)

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Awesome Hunter Footage

This is really good, I'm not sure I could stand that still with all the excitement.

A hunter with amazing discipline. He didn't want to shoot a cow with a calf ...one of the coolest video's I've ever seen.

http://www.aventure-chasse-peche-video.com/view_video.php?viewkey=5080b9a6a17bef029331

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Seven-Year-Old Fifth Generation to Take Deer



During the Thanksgiving holidays this year, Riley Parker, 7, of Portland, Ore., became the fifth generation Parker family member to kill a deer with the same gun — a .222 caliber Sako. Riley brought down this 8-point whitetail buck while hunting on family land near Camp Verde.

http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/outdoors/12/25//RileyParker.html

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Welcome To Our Board!!! Nice hog!

[sgt947]

The ko 12ga slug is what I used to get this with

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Have gun, will travel: economy only grazes hunting

Saturday November 1, 1:34 pm ET
By Joe Kafka, Associated Press Writer

The bears rule Wall Street, but hunters go after pheasant, turkey even if the economy is shot

PIERRE, S.D. (AP) -- Have gun, will travel -- even if the economy's shot.

In the heart of South Dakota's pheasant-hunting country, license sales have been strong this fall despite gasoline prices near $3 a gallon and a looming recession. Ditto for hunting license sales in New York, Utah and Colorado. The leading retailers of outdoor gear, meanwhile, say sales of shotguns, ammunition and warm camouflage clothes aren't too bad considering the economy's headwinds.

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Hunting's popularity has waned slightly in recent years, and American families are tightening their belts as a recession looms, but businesses catering to hunters say the sport's outlook remains relatively healthy during these hard economic times.

"Hunters may not get the latest product, but they're still getting the things they need and getting out there. Our sales are holding up good," said Larry Whiteley of Bass Pro Shops, a privately held company that is one of the country's biggest suppliers of outdoor gear. "It's a family tradition. You know, deer camp and all that stuff."

Some publicly traded companies that sell guns and other hunting equipment, such as Cabela's Inc. and Smith & Wesson Holding Corp., are showing signs of weakness, however.

To the extent that certain regions of the U.S. are noticing a dropoff in hunting and fishing activity -- Pennsylvania, Texas and Missouri, to name a few -- industry and government officials point to other root causes, such as urban sprawl and poor weather.

Some industry officials say financial struggles might even act as a counterweight to these other forces, because the search for wild game in fields and forests can be soothing for the soul.

"Hunting is part of what you are. It's a relief from all the stresses of society," said Brent Lawrence, a spokesman for the National Wild Turkey Federation.

But just like leisure travelers in general, hunters are expected to stay closer to home and keep their spending in check when it comes to frills they might have splurged on in the past.

The wily Chinese ring-necked pheasant of South Dakota lures about 200,000 hunters every year. Many people fly or drive hundreds of miles to chase them through expansive fields of mostly harvested corn, soybeans and sunflowers, overgrown weed patches, and tall-grass prairie stretching to the horizon.

O'Jay Vanegas, 59, of Scottsdale, Ariz., visited South Dakota last week to hunt pheasants, just as he's done for the past 12 years.

But Vanegas, an auto salesman who expects to earn about $30,000 less this year, skipped the season's opening day because the round-trip airfare from Phoenix had more than tripled from previous years. He predicts other hunters will cut back in similar ways.

"When money gets tight, something has to go," he said. "Hunting is a luxury."

Hunting license sales are flat this year in North Dakota, and down in states such as Texas, Arkansas and Missouri. But officials there blame bad weather: torrential rains, flooding and hurricanes.

The economy also may be a factor in reduced sales of hunting licenses, says Jim Low of the Missouri Conservation Department.

"People may not balk at the $10 price of a resident small-game hunting permit, but $4 gasoline to get to and from hunting and fishing spots ... very likely did affect people's recreational activities," Low says.

In Pennsylvania, general hunting license sales through August were off 4 percent for residents and 16 percent for nonresidents, but Jerry Feaser at the state Game Commission says that may have little to do with the economy.

"We've been fighting a long-term decline in license sales, which has more to do with things like urban sprawl than the economy," he says. "We have a lot of development on formerly huntable lands, and that's a major obstacle."

George Van Horn, a senior analyst for Los Angeles-based industry research firm IBIS World, says retailers that depend on hunting are holding up well in the slack economy.

A survey done every five years for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service showed last year that 12.5 million Americans hunted in 2006, spending $22.7 billion. In 2001, there were 13 million hunters, and they spent $23.4 billion.

Some companies that rely on the shopping habits of hunters are exhibiting signs of strain.

Cabela's of Sidney, Neb., which specializes in direct marketing of hunting, fishing and camping merchandise, said Oct. 7 it would reduce its work force by roughly 10 percent. The company's CEO, Dennis Highby, said at the time "it was necessary given the macroeconomic environment we are facing."

And late in September Smith & Wesson Holding Corp., cited the economic downturn when it eliminated about 80 jobs at a Rochester, N.H., plant that makes hunting rifles.

Data collected from hunting preserves and the sporting good industry by IBIS suggest people tend not to cut back much on hunting trips in tough economic times because they already have the basic gear like guns and clothing.

"Local hunting, as far as people who live in rural areas and hunt for pleasure and food, may increase just because they've already got the equipment," Van Horn said.

But sporting goods stores, which have reported strong sales of hunting equipment for the past five years, can expect slower growth this year, because enthusiasts that tend to take "big, luxurious trips are going to be cutting back."

Bobby Wiggins, manager of Bear Creek Shooting Preserve at Preston, Ga., said some past customers have cancelled deer hunting trips this year.

"Some of my regulars say they're pinching pennies right now, although I've replaced some of the ones I've lost and it might turn out to be a good season," Wiggins says.

Stowe Samco, owner of Absolutely Pheasants hunting lodge in Tripp County, S.D., which labels itself the "Pheasant Hunting Capital of the World," said his reservations are up 13 percent from last year.

It costs about $400 daily to hunt pheasants at Samco's place. He believes the sagging economy may deter hunters who are less affluent.

"I think the people that are hurt by the economy right now, the people that won't be coming, are probably going to be your $75- to $200-a-day guys. It's tougher for them," Samco says.

Lawrence, of the National Wild Turkey Federation, says most of those who typically hunt close to home have not been deterred by the weak economy. However, he says some who have been willing to shell out big bucks for hunts may stay home this fall.

"They may not make the big trip to go elk hunting in Colorado or duck hunting in Canada," Lawrence says. "But for the most part, tried and true hunters are still getting out there."

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081101/economy_hunting.html

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Zero in on Ammo

Hunters are scoring with faster, more effective loads
By Staff Report

Ammunition should always be the first thing the hunter chooses, determined by the load he needs for the game he's after at the distances he will shoot. The gun and the sight come second and third. For 2008, the ammunition world continues to center on new high-performance bullet designs that offer improved target impact characteristics over a wider range of velocities and distances, and cartridges that use new fast-burning/ low-pressure propellants to put ever more power into smaller and shorter cases. We are also seeing an increased number of high-performance nontoxic "lead-free" rifle cartridges on the market, to allow hunters to comply with growing state regulations without sacrificing effectiveness. In addition, improvements in slug ammunition technology continue to move forward to meet the needs of the ever-growing use of highly accurate rifled barrels for slug-gun deer hunting. Here are a few of this year's more interesting ammunition products.

BRENNEKE K.O. SLUG
The 20 gauge is grabbing an increasing chunk of the deer-slug hunting world, because today's high-performance 20-gauge slugs offer power, trajectory and accuracy that transcend the performance of traditional 12-gauge lead slugs, with notably less recoil. Now, the performance and attractive pricing that have made Brenneke's K.O. slugs so popular come in 20 gauge, too.



The same exceptional knockdown power that distinguishes every Brenneke slug is built into the K.O., making it an ideal deer load at medium ranges. The K.O. 2 3/4-inch slug has a flat trajectory, dropping only 1.6 inches between 25 and 100 yards. Five-shot groups of fewer than 2 inches at 50 yards are common. It handles both smoothbore and rifled barrels with ease, making it truly a universal hunting slug. At the same time, its full-bore frontal area generates 1,476 fps velocity and 1,605 ft./lbs. of muzzle energy, overcoming the lack of power that limits many other sub-bore sabot designs. (www.brennekeusa.com)

FEDERAL PREMIUM TROPHY
Federal Premium new Trophy Bonded Tip rifle ammo is built on the heralded Trophy Bonded Bear Claw platform and adds numerous features for a substantial increase in performance. The most noticeable addition is a neon, translucent polymer tip, coupled with a boattail design for flat trajectory and improved accuracy. Because it's built on the Bear Claw's proven platform, the new Trophy Tip has the jacket bonded to the core for high weight retention and a solid copper shank to crush bone.



The Trophy Tip is unique in that it combines several different bullet technologies in one projectile. Another improvement to this bullet is exterior skiving on the nickel-plated bullet that provides optimum expansion at a variety of ranges. The load also features a nickel-plated case and bullet for easy extraction and corrosion protection. Available in a full line of offerings from .270 Winchester to .300 H&H. (www.federalpremium.com)

FIOCCHI .308 WINCHESTER
The new Fiocchi Extrema .308 Win. 150-grain load offers the renowned SST bullet, which combines deadly terminal performance with a high ballistic coefficient. The SST bullet's premium polymer tip has a sharp point to help increase its speed and create a flatter projectile. On impact, the tip initiates controlled expansion at all velocities.



The secant ogive, boattail spire point profile of this bullet provides the downrange velocity and energy hunters need for successful kills. Finally, the SST's interlock ring near its base ensures the core and jacket remain locked solid during expansion, so the SST retains mass for dramatic wound-channels. It leaves the muzzle at 2,860 fps while generating 2,723 ft./lbs. energy, and even as far out as 300 yards, is still delivering performance with 2,227 fps velocity and 1,651 ft./lbs. of crushing energy. (www.fiocchiusa.com)

HORNADY .300 AND .338 RUGER
The new Hornady Ruger Compact Magnum (RCM) cartridges achieve true magnum levels of velocity, accuracy and terminal performance in an easy-to-carry, short-action gun. Based on the beltless 375 Ruger case, the 300 and 338 RCMs feature industry-leading cartridge geometry that provides for an efficient cartridge case and enables high levels of performance. Coupled with Hornady's superior bullet offerings, the RCM cartridges outperform the 300 and 338 WinMag cartridges but in a rifle with a compact 20-inch barrel.



The RCMs deliver what other "short fat" cartridges don't -- superior ballistic performance in a compact firearm platform that exceeds 300 and 338 WinMag performance, offering optimized case geometry for more velocity with 10 to 15 percent less powder, longer barrel life, less recoil and less muzzle blast, plus superior temperature stability from minus 15 degrees F to 140 degrees F (which reduces point of impact change due to climate variation). (www.hornady.com)

REMINGTON SABOT SLUG
It doesn't just look intimidating -- it's flattening whitetails and competitors in the tipped-slug market with devastating ferocity. Guided by the new Power Port Tip, the AccuTip Bonded Sabot Slug delivers unmatched accuracy and terminal performance. This slug consistently prints tiny 100-yard groups and transfers tremendous knockdown force out to the farthest reaches of shotgun range.



It's the largest tipped slug you'll find anywhere. In field-testing, this huge .58-caliber slug produced gaping wound channels and crumpled every deer it touched with a single shot. From 5 to 200 yards, it yields perfect mushrooms and over 95 percent weight retention, thanks to its spiral nose cuts, bonded construction and high-strength cartridge brass jacket. Available in 2 3/4-inch or 3-inch 12-gauge. (www.remington.com)

WINCHESTER E-TIP
The E-Tip lead-free bullet from Winchester Ammunition is developed for big-game hunters and complies with current state nontoxic regulations. Co-developed with Nosler, the E-Tip provides a high-performance sporting bullet that is lead-free. The polycarbonate tip, like that featured on XP3, AccuBond CT and Ballistic Silvertip bullets, prevents deformation in the magazine, boosts aerodynamic efficiency, improves down-range ballistics and initiates expansion.



The "E2 Cavity" promotes expansion at long and short ranges and improves accuracy. Gilding metal lead-free design provides near 100 percent weight retention and helps prevent barrel fouling compared with pure copper bullets. The boattail design reduces drag and provides a more efficient flight profile for higher retained energy at long range. Lubalox Coating helps prevent barrel fouling. E-Tip is loaded exclusively by Winchester and will be initially available in .30/06 Springfield, .300 WSM, .300 WinMag and .308 Winchester. (www.winchester.com).

http://www.gameandfishmag.com/hunting/hunting-gear/GFex_1008_ammo/index.html


... Gary

[trkyhntr]

Now here's an outdoor adventure for you. "Grumpa" took some of the grandkids to Lake Raystown. We caught some bluegills.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/patrkyhntr17252/100_0106.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/patrkyhntr17252/100_0115.jpg

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CONGRATS!!!!!!!!

[trkyhntr]

My friends and fellow posters:
It is finally in print. My second book, THE LUCKIEST HUNTER IS STILL ALIVE!, has been published by Llumina Press. Here is a link to the website for the book:
http://www.llumina.com/store/luckiesthunterstillaliveHC.htm

George

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Dan Wesson, damn nice!

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

Glad you got it Gary.

I have a .22 Dan Wesson, but I don't have a magnum cylinder for it.

Phil

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BANG!!! You just hit the nail right on the head. BTW, here's a post I put on GUNS:

What I spent my Stimulus Check on:



RUGER – NEW MODEL SINGLE SIX CONVERTIBLE, 22 S, L, OR LR CAL., INCLUDES INTERCHANGEABLE .22 MAG CLYINDER, 6 ½ INCH BARREL, FIXED SIGHTS, BLUE FINISH, PEARL HANDLE GRIPS, INCLUDES PAPER WORK, NO BOX, APPROX 34 OZ. SN 260-78320 MFG 1985. INCLUDES HOLSTER.

I just got the confirmation from the Internet seller. I've been wanting another one of these since mine was stolen from me over twenty years ago; the price was right and the grips and holster are a good bonus!

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

No, they are not.

Because most of them are elitists that want to instruct people how to live, and then they themselves do whatever the hell they want to do.

Like telling us to drive little gas sipping rice burners while they drive giant gas guzzling SUVs.

Phil

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liberals are not big on logic & reason, JMO.

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

I would think the company would lose more money if they lost their hunting and fishing customers than they would if people stopped buying pet food.

It seems that Stacie Behler might be a bleeding heart liberal.

Phil

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Group Demands Retailer Stop Supporting Anti-Gun

Hunters’ Group Demands Retailer Stop Supporting Humane Society

Author: GR Staff
April 30, 2008[

The U.S. Sportsmen’s Alliance (USSA) has asked sportsmen to contact Meijer, a Michigan-based regional chain of retail superstores, and demand that it dissolve its partnership with the anti-hunting group, the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS), in an online pet photo contest.

Meijer refused a U.S. Sportsmen’s Alliance (USSA) request to abandon the partnership, said USSA senior vice president Rick Story.

Meijer is a seller of sporting goods and hunting licenses and indicates on its website that it operates 184 locations throughout Michigan, Illinois, Ohio, Indiana and Kentucky.

According to information on the Meijer website, for each person that enters the contest, Meijer will donate $1, up to a maximum of $5,000, to the HSUS Foreclosure Pets Fund.

Said Meijer vice president of corporate communications and public affairs, Stacie Behler, “Our goal here was not to provide funding for the Humane Society of the United States, but instead for a fund that would be funneled out nationally.”

The HSUS is America’s leading opponent of hunting, fishing and trapping. It led the charge in a 2006 ballot campaign to ban dove hunting in Michigan, contributing $1.6 million to the effort. It opposes hunting on National Wildlife Refuges and other public lands.

http://www.gunreports.com/news/long_guns/Sportsmen_Alliance_USSA_Meijer_anti-hunting_Humane_Society_287-1.html?ET=gunreports:e149:109733a:&st=email

[lacymarie]

LOL, glad you enjoyed it Gary. I do have a bird feeder but them squirrels would never get at it. I have a slippery pole that they can not get up to it. LOL I know I am a meanie but those squirrels get into everything here on our farm!

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Yes, We welcome and hope you visit often.

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I keep coming back to this, HARR!!! We feed the squirrels and birds here.

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

I said a bear rug.

But I would love one of your bear hugs.

LOL

Phil

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

Sure women are allowed here.

Especially you.

One of the moderators is a woman.

Phil

[MOPAR10R/T]

Hi Gary! Ya, Walt learned that the hard way!...LOL...))

[lacymarie]

What?? You want a bear hug? LOL

[lacymarie]

LOL, Yea I think the squirrel problem is the least of their worries...How's the poor fella gonna get down???

[lacymarie]

Thanks Gary, women are allowed here right? I mean I hate to think I am busting into a man's hunting camp. LOL

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I carry mine in a jacket, book bag, or pant pocket; my size does not allow belt carry, HARR!!!

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

I had one pop of my belt and into the water once while fishing too.

I now usually use a pouch or carry it in a pocket.

Phil

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I would never carry a cell phone by belt clip, I've seen too many pop off in just the same way.

[MOPAR10R/T]

Ps, Gary...

Thought you would like to see this!!!

A snow PhotoShow is here...

Snow storm 1-27-08

Playback URL: http://www.photoshow.com/watch/AF4xW7CV

Be sure to click " FULL SCREEN!"

Enjoy,

Ron
))

[MOPAR10R/T]

G'm Gary! Thanks! It's good to seeya again!

RE: old CP's, thanks, I hope you can find some.

I think, I'm on my 4th one at least. Had one since 1999.
Back a couple years, my bud, Walt and I had just got out new CP's, about 2 weeks before this happened to his new one.
He was getting in a boat, at a dock at Tillamook Bay.
He had it clipped to his belt and was bending over to untie a rope. As he does, it pops off his belt and into 40 feet of water!
...LOL...
MAN was he pissedoff...LOL...
Luckily for him, a bro in CA had just got a new one and he sent Walt his old one. A very nice one.
So took it to Verison and they put it online with his nunber.

A Speech, of what kind, if you don't mine telling me?

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Hi Ron, Welcome to our board. We don't much traffic these days, but we keep it going in recognition of dear old friend who up and just disappeared on us.

About your link, it's been on the news and I think it's a great idea. I don't think I have any old phones, but I'll give the garage a look over latter today. Right now I'm writing a speech that I'm quite apprehensive about giving

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

That's really funny Lacy.

If I lived there I would have a bear rug.

LOL

Phil

[MOPAR10R/T]

Hi Gary! Just been surfn' the boards and found you here.

How about doing this for a very old tropper, me?

Please help soldiers call home more often...


http://www.cellphonesforsoldiers.com/shippingLabel_generic.html

I just did. I have 2 cell phones ready for shipping.
I'll pay for the postage too.

Thanks!

MP/Ron
))

[trkyhntr]

Now that is one big squirrel!

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I love it! Thanks, and welcome to the board

[lacymarie]

I got this in an email, too fun not to share...

Do you worry about squirrels getting into the bird feeder? Well, look at this.









Good grief, what is that line made of?

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HARR!!!

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

LOL

That's when I drink out of the bowl too,

unless I have company over.

Phil

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Not at home, HARRR!!!!

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

I see you are not much of a stickler on etiquette either.

LOL

Phil

[ONEBGG]

LOL! I often pick up the bowl to down most of the liquid in soups, and then after the goods, HARR!!!

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

I GOOGled Scotch broth, and it seems to be almost exactly like Irish stew.

I really do like stews better than soups. When I eat soup I either spoon the broth off of the top and eat it first so I can get to the good stuff, or eat the good stuff first and then drink the broth.

It's a little more polite when you spoon the broth off, but it's more fun to drink it from the bowl.

LOL

Phil

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It was at a friends house that I tried it, I didn't get the recipe. However, it was close to 'Scotch Broth' in taste.

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

Have you posted your lamb stew recipe?

I would like to try that.

Phil

[ONEBGG]

Thanks Phil, I'm a big stew fan, I have many recipes that I like, about the only stew I have never liked is lamb stew.

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

You need to cook up a pot of VA style Brunswick Stew.

You will love it.

You might even like the GA style, but it's totally different than the VA style.

The GA style is a lot like my three meat stew.

Here is a GOOGle search with some recipes:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2007-27,GGLG:en&q=Brunswick+Stew

Phil

[ONEBGG]

Stew and soups, oh yeah, favorites for sure. You have a good memory my friend.

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

We had a great time Gary, and the stew was awesome.

I know how much you like soups and stews.

I wish you could have been there.

Phil

[ONEBGG]

Nice pics, thanks.

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

Some pics:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=26146759

Phil