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So I'm guessing that this board is completely dead now?? Does the company even care about share price anymore??
So now you're allowed to post on here again??? Lemme guess... this weeks gonna be a good week right? Wait no... dont say that, last time you did we had a 20/1 RS.
The server is down - will be repaired and back up shortly
hmmmm.... where'd the website go... does NNYR still exist?
Thanks for the update. So what does this inevitably mean for us? Seems to me like they have given up all hope on market share value and are putting all their eggs into their private investor basket?
CowboyUp5000
Thanks for the headsup.
Investor Newsletter News
April 27, 2009: This Partnership/Investor Newsletter is designed to help keep our investors and partners informed on the kinds of things we’re currently working on, and how these things might interact with Northamerican Energy’s goals and plans for the future.
Specific announcements and news releases may be posted as newsworthy events occur, but in the time periods between those releases our Investor Newsletter will fill in the gaps and continue to keep you, our partner/investors, informed.
Northamerican Energy MLP(I): The daily reports I get from our field operations continue to report that our workover rigs are performing well, our monthly production is stabilizing and continues to improve on the wells we've worked over to date.
As our quarterly reports to our investor/partners indicated this is a long slow process, a process that throwing lots of $'s at will not alleviate. We anticipate that we will achieve the production levels indicated in that report by the 3-4th quarter of 2009 and would ask that you be patient in the interim.
Current oil prices oil seem to be holding at $50+ bbl, even considering a glut in the current oil inventory reports and all the experts we've seen say that prices will rebound because of the depletion of major worldwide oil fields. as we previously menbtioned the 2008 rate of depletion of 9.1% was much worse than expected and given that when the world economy recovers everyone expects a strong bounce back in the price of oil. In other words, no one believes that these low oil prices are going to last!
We are optimistic that oil prices will return to the $75 bbl level in the near future, as will natural gas prices this winter, and that the Partnership's annual income will meet, or exceed, all expectations in the coming quarters as production improves, workovers are completed, and additional production is brought online.
Acquisition of New Leases and Wells: As mentioned previously the Pecos County filing of the assignment, conveyance and bill of sale of both Sunrise's assets, and the existing leases were conveyed from Northamerican Energy Group to Northamerican Energy Master Limited Partnership and copies of the filings conveying those interests were included in the last quarterly report.
The leases and associated wells will continue to be worked over, re-equipped and put on production and the initial results on the wells that are already basically completed seem to be much better than anticipated, especially as it relates to the natural gas production.
Should these results continue we anticipate that these leases will return their purchase price in one year, or so, all of which fully corresponds with our business plan.
We will continue to analyze these opportunities and continue to negotiate the acquisition of additional leases/wells for both Partnerships as an ongoing basis and these acquisitions will be announced, and reported to our partners, as agreements are finalized.
As mentioned previously all of the leases we plan on acquiring for our Partnerships are properties that are in a mature, existing field, and were developed and operated until they became inactive in the past 10-15 years when oil and gas prices did not support their continuing operation.
These leases, and their wells, are low-cost, low-risk, primary production properties in need of workovers using a number of workover procedures. After completion we are certain they will return investment, and the workover costs, quickly resulting in positive cash flow for the Limited Partnerships within 6 months after completion.
Current Production - Partnership I: The natural gas we're producing and bringing on line as workovers are completed runs almost 1400 BTU's instead of 1000 BTU's per MCF which means that the Partnership receives a premium of almost 40% over and above the quoted price per MCF as outlined in Southern Union Gas settlement statements.
Sunrise's workover rig, which is working on the wells that are part of the Sunrise acquisition, and BE Burton's workover rig, which is currently working over the the wells on our other leases gives use of 2 workover rigs to use to work our leases as we continue to expand and grow.
These workovers are progressing each week and we continue to try to put 3-4 new wells to add to the existing production each month.
Other Items of Interest: An announcement in January 9, 2009 Houston Chronicle has affirmed our business model when it announced that Quantum Energy Partners, a Houston-based private equity firm, is investing more than $100 million in a new firm that will focus on buying existing oil and gas production in Texas and Oklahoma, and then working over these leases to increase the output using enhanced recovery methods.
Next, on April 27th we executed the Farmout Agreement (Agreement) with Pinnacle Mining for drilling new wells on both the Breen and Benoit leases. This Agreement requires the drilling, or re-entering, of additional earning wells within 90 days of completion of each well on both leases.
As part of that Agreement a production payment of $100,000 on each earning well will be paid out to the Partnership out of 25% of the Working Interest, or 18.75% of the net revenue interests, after payout. This $100,000 production payment is to be paid in addition to any overrides, or royalty interests, the Partnership may have after assigning the 75% Working Interests to Pinnacle. Copies of the Agreement will be forwarded to the Partnership along with the Quarterly Report this week. .
Partnership II Information: Current oil prices, coupled with the fact that we offer our investor/partners ownership in proven production allows us to offer returns far greater that they might be able to generate in the current stock market.
In addition 20-30% (depending on the investors tax bracket) of that return is effectively sheltered by the oil and gas depletion allowance (IRS Publication 535-Section 10).
Due to the popularity and success of our current investment program we have decided to expand our program and offer our Partners the opportunity to purchase 1/2 unit and make up to 10%, or more as oil prices increase, on a $30,000 investment, all on the same terms and conditions as the full $60,000 units.
These investors will be given the option to increase their income by purchasing another 1/2 unit at a later time.
Please contact us if your are interested in obtaining a Private Placement Memorandum package.
In closing we are excited about the new partner relationships we have developed over these past few months as we continue to have lots of new, and exciting opportunities made available to us and hope that these Partnership Investor Newsletters will help you to keep current on what’s happening in our company, and aid you in better understanding what we’re attempting to accomplish.
I pray that you, and your families, are having a blessed spring and please free to call me if you have any additional questions.
Jon Ginder - President & CEO
http://www.northamericanenergy.net/index.php?action=more&type=news&nid=72&id=134
I'm not sure what you're saying.
joev, this should be of much more concern to the CEO of this company:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=34955766
You may find this interesting. First, a copy of the newsletter stating why Jon did what he did. After that, my response to it. Finally, the split occurred on Jan 09, 2007 as per the newsletter....
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=16094840
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=16099814
Needless to say, the stock closed at .26 the first day after the r/s. You see how this has benefited the shareholders....The most recent close was .004.
What was the date of the NNYR reverse split?
Oh my, what does this sound like?
a 40% rate of return per year
Due to the popularity and success of our current investment program we have decided to expand our program and offer our Partners the opportunity to purchase 1/2 unit and make up to $1000/month on a $30,000 investment, all on the same terms and conditions as the full $60,000 units.
so Creede, are you saying that NNYR is waiting for LBWR to get their form 10 effected by the SEC before they do all the wonderful things that you outlined during your Sept. 2008 post?
Posted by: Creede Bighorns Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:39:14 AM
In reply to: the_worm06 who wrote msg# 1347 Post # of 1348
First things first.
Labwire is out with their Form 10, and therefore is top priority. When NNYR gets theirs ready, I will be ready.
First things first.
Labwire is out with their Form 10, and therefore is top priority. When NNYR gets theirs ready, I will be ready.
Did not get the chance to go by NorthAmerican when I was in Houston. Plan on seeing Jon's place next trip.
Creede, can you please give us an update on this?
thanks
Posted by: Creede Bighorns Date: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 7:34:00 PM
In reply to: Crow3 who wrote msg# 1326 Post # of 1344
Hey Crow, what are you doing in these waters? lol
I spoke to Jon a few months back, and he assures me that the limited partnerships are going very well, and that he is going to get AF's and uplist NNYR after he gets some shares back that were stolen from the company. I think there is litigation involved, so I figured it would take a while.
I saw the limited partnerships at the NV SOS, so I figure I would at least hold the shares I still have and see what happens.
thanks joev2
Jon was the one who put Lbwr in the limelight afaik with this, the first msg of Labwire...
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=9832495
Apparently, both are or were in the same prayer group, they're friends, and according to Jon, he has a decent amount of shares in Lbwr, though I cannot find evidence that he's an insider...or even a top holder. He was a key poster on his own board for quite awhile until one day when he posted this.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=15267350
It was followed up shortly thereafter with a 1/20 r/s.
To his credit, he has always mentioned that Bob Cotton of Cwrn is a crook and this investor found that to be true, a bit late.
might be looking at this company in the near future
the Dexter/Jon connection
can someone sum up for me please?
thanks
Actually, I did not know anything of the news letter - thanks for the heads up.
re the_worm06 - if Labwire as a scam, I would be worried about him, but I am not. Imo Labwire has proven a lot in the fact that they got audited, and then put out another attempt at registration with SEC. That takes a boatload of work and money, and I have never seen one come through before.
Also, joev we just missed one hell of a year. If the Form 10 would have passed, and Laidlaw would not have gotten bought out, Labwire would more than likely would have done about $8MM in revenue and be trading on the OTCBB.
re NNYR - I think that Jon is an honest guy, but unfortunately a few crooks got him to make some bad decisions with the shares - despite the FACT that NNYR has never done a 504. I think he is honestly trying to pick up the pieces and will rescue the share holders if the company provides enough resources to do so.
Oh, and I think the worm is a good thing for the thread. Might just peak some interest!
Don't know if you're aware, but Jon put out another newsletter around Christmas. All sounds good, but nothing happens. I hate to say this, but my cynical side still says that he and Dexter haven't proven anything. I see the worm IS back after a number of years and I look forward to his comments. He may be negative as well as some others, but the stocks of both companies are where they are for a reason. For months now, it appears the only decent shares traded are sells and then someone paints it with a 100-1000 buy (probably Soros).
Since, I'm losing big with Pfsd, Lbwr, (don't even count Nnyr anymore), I'll take any good news from any of them....but am not risking more....and am resigned to the reality that all may reach nil. All have also imo at times, released misleading prs which are par for the course with ANY stock it seems, these days. Hopefully, the pretty picture portrayed to the shareholders will one day become the true picture of the company.
Went to Houston a few weeks ago to see Labwire. Could not have been more impressed. I'm planning on going back in the summer to see NNYR.
Now thats a crack smoking return. 40% LOL. Even Bernie Madoff didn't promise that much.
Must be very risky to get that type of return. Based on the performance of this stock, I think one had a better chance with Bernie before he got caught in the ponzi.
Stayed away from the board out of respect for those having money in this. But being on the grey sheets, you might not be able to sell this.
Seems too much like those scammy infomercials.
Not even the ghost of Charles J. Givens can save this. GLTA
I can certainly understand why you would say that. Being stuck is no fun.
Of course, did you notice that there is no mention of the stock on the website? The shareholder letter is not really to us, it's to the investors from the limited partnerships. I call that odd in a good way. 99% of the pinky's out there would be using the "limited partnership" stuff as a way to dump shares. Heck, NNYR hasn't even put out the first PR.
I'm gonna hold my shares and see if somehow, someway Jon can build a successful company, and at the same time prove to the OTC market that he is no Bob Cotton.
"Due to the popularity and success of our current investment program".....
I'd like to see exactly what this success is and who was affected.
He then goes on to say (if I understand it correctly) that a person's 30k can make up to 12k per year. Hey, that's a 40% return! Yeah, right. But, we're not done. The opportunity to make an 80% annual return will be available soon. I don't buy it for a minute. "If it sounds too good to be true...."
Sorry, I'm done with this one. I still have some shares but this company and management has done me as well as Cotton and Western which is sort of ironic because Jon was a frequent critic of Bob Cotton. Unfortunately, I've yet to see any difference between the two.
I wish Jon well, he seems like a good person.
Unfortunately, given my princely **2** shares of this company, thanks to the two worst fills in the history of penny stocks, expressing my opinion here is not even giving you my proverbial two cents worth!
I have not followed the company since then and feel unqualified to comment.
The fact that they are doing SOMETHING in this tough market has to be a positive. My gut says that investing here would be done as an act of faith in Jon, or as an act in support of him, rather than a statement that this is the best junior energy company out there.
Thoughts?
http://www.northamericanenergy.net/index.php?action=more&type=news&nid=72&id=134
Investor Newsletter News
October 2, 2008: This Partnership/Investor Newsletter is designed to help keep our investors and partners informed on the kinds of things we’re currently working on, and how these things might interact with Northamerican Energy’s goals and plans for the future.
Specific announcements and news releases may be posted as newsworthy events occur, but in the time periods between those releases our Investor Newsletter will fill in the gaps and continue to keep you, our partner/investors, informed.
Northamerican Energy MLP(I): On July 31st the Partnerships quarterly income distribution, the financials as prepared by our CPA, along with a full report on the activity of the leases was mailed to the individual partners.
Given the current price of oil we are confident that the Partnership's annual income will meet, or exceed, all expectations as the monthly income improves with workovers being completed, and additional production is acquired and brought online.
Acquisition of New Leases and Wells: We are pleased to announce that on September 22 Northamerican Energy Group closed on the acquisition to purchase Sunrise Energy Inc. and its assets.
The assignment, conveyance and bill of sale of Sunrise's assets from Northamerican Energy Group to Northamerican Energy Master Limited Partnership (I) is in process of being filed and recorded in Pecos County, Texas and copies conveying those interests will be included in the next quarterly report.
As part of an ancillary agreement a workover rig, a backhoe, tools and other equipment and tools are also included, equipment which will be used to workover and rework all of Northamerican's leases.
As mentioned previously Carl Hanks, the President of Sunrise Energy, has agreed to come onboard Northamerican Energy Group as our Assistant Director of Field Operations. His initial responsibility will be to oversee and complete the workovers on the wells that are part of this agreement, in addition to assisting John Wilshusen in overseeing Northamerican's ever increasing asset base of wells and leases.
Specific information on Carl is included in the "Board and Management Section" of this website.
The leases and associated well will continue to be worked over, re-equipped and put on production and the initial results on the wells that are already basically completed seem to be much better than anticipated, especially as it relates to the natural gas production.
Should these results continue we anticipate that these leases will return their purchase price in less one year, all of which fully corresponds with our business plan.
We will continue to analyze these opportunities continue to negotiate the acquisition of additional leases/wells for both Partnerships as an ongoing basis and these acquistions will be announced, and reported to our partners, as agreements are finalized.
As mentioned previously all of the leases we plan on acquiring for our Partnerships are properties that are in a mature, existing field, and were developed and operated until they became inactive in the past 10-15 years when oil and gas prices did not support their continuing operation.
These leases, and their wells, are low-cost, low-risk, primary production properties in need of workovers using a number of workover procedures. After completion we are certain they will return investment, and the workover costs, quickly resulting in positive cash flow for the Limited Partnerships within 6 months after completion.
Current Production - Partnership I: Sunrise's workover rig, which is working on the wells that are part of the Sunrise acquisition, and Burton's workover rig, which is currently working over the the wells on the Breen lease, now gives use temporarily use of 3 workover rigs to help alleviate the availability of workover rigs problem as we continue to expand and grow.
Workovers are progressing each week as equipment becomes available and we continue to put more and more of our existing production back on line each month.
Other Items of Interest: We are please to announce that John Wilshusen's son, J.Doug Wilshusen, has officially joined Northamerican Energy Group as our Land Manager handling lease acquisitions and contract title review.
Specific information on Doug is included in the "Board and Management Section" of this website.
Partnership II Information: Current oil prices, coupled with the fact that we offer our investor/partners ownership in proven production allows us to offer our Partners/Investors returns far greater that they might be able to generate in the current stock market.
In addition 20-30% (depending on the investors tax bracket) of that return is effectively sheltered by the oil and gas depletion allowance (IRS Publication 535-Section 10).
Due to the popularity and success of our current investment program we have decided to expand our program and offer our Partners the opportunity to purchase 1/2 unit and make up to $1000/month on a $30,000 investment, all on the same terms and conditions as the full $60,000 units.
These investors will be given the option to increase their income to $2,000/month by purchasing another 1/2 unit at a later time.
Please contact us if your are interested in obtaining a Private Placement Memorandum package.
In closing we are excited about the new partner relationships we have developed over these past few months as we continue to have lots of new, and exciting opportunities made available to us and hope that these Partnership Investor Newsletters will help you to keep current on what’s happening to our company, and aid you in better understanding what we’re attempting to accomplish.
Kindest regards,
Jon Ginder
Chairman & CEO
Gotcha. I plan on meeting them both whenever the Labwire shareholders meeting takes place.
No, I am in Georgia and Florida most of the time now.
I would welcome meeting Jon and Dexter both. If I go to Texas again, amybe next year, maybe I will try to do that.
Are you near Katy? Perhaps you could go meet Jon face to face, and see how the business is going. I think he has a new office for the limited partnership investors.
One thing is dang sure. You could get a heap of shares here for
very little money.
Litigation is a hard row to hoe. Hope JON can emerge victorious.
Actually I was looking for NNYG..it turns out that Jon got a new symbol, and moved to Katy. Katy is a Town just to the west of Houston, really close (as Texas distances are measured) to
LABWIRE offices.
Got a fine restaurant or two there. I stayed the night a few times there on my travels.
Houston is kinda big. Nearly forty miles accross. Not an easy trip during rush hour.
New technology seems to be having some success in getting the leftover hydrocarbons out of what was considered spent oil wells.
Hey Crow, what are you doing in these waters? lol
I spoke to Jon a few months back, and he assures me that the limited partnerships are going very well, and that he is going to get AF's and uplist NNYR after he gets some shares back that were stolen from the company. I think there is litigation involved, so I figured it would take a while.
I saw the limited partnerships at the NV SOS, so I figure I would at least hold the shares I still have and see what happens.
Looking over the available information, it looks as if this one is really gone. Maybe sell the shell and move on??
Hope JON can find something better...like joining up with his friend Dexter.
Hey, justed called the company at 281-895-8351 and a recording says the company has now moved it offices to Katy, Tx. Here's the new number.
281-944-3180
More options for more people now when you call. Hope that is a good sign.
I'll change the number in the box.
Oh, I'm 100% a realist on making the move to the OTC-BB, since it's been such a long road for LBWR. That said, I am also encouraged by the sector. Did you notice that the first limited partnership is complete, and they have started a second one? I figure that means the company has plenty of cash on hand now, and will no longer be selling shares.
Time + money = OTC-BB eventually, imho.
Not to burst your bubble there Creede
But i dont think we can ever go to the OTC-BB. It is rare to see any pinks ever cross over, and with the history of this stock and those "unfindable" shares from the previous company... I dont see it happening anytime soon. If ever. I REEEAAAAALLLLLLLYYY would love to see it, but i dont think it'll ever happen. I hope I am eat'n my words one day.
CowboyUp5000
Good to see you, chico. I have not given up here, or I would resign as moderator. Jon Ginder is the principle shareholder here, so I figure he is extremely motivated to get us to the OTC-BB.
**correction**
Good thing is that we are in the hottest sector out there...
lol
GodBless - NoDoubt - creede
~> #board-7229
stuckholder ...lol..i'm one of those too
I know what you mean, because I am a stuckholder here too. Good thing is that we are not the hottest sector out there, and that if you look at the SOS you can see the partnerships are real. Maybe someday Jon will take us to the OTC-BB.
I'm with you dig.
My shares have been severely diluted also and i'm still waiting for anything to happen after almost 3 years. I hope this will turn things around, but it seems that this thing never goes anywhere but down and my shares are worth nothing compared to what i bought them for.
Hey, I see the Limited Partnerships on the NV SOS.
https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpSearch.aspx
Sure thing digs. I know we have not had a whole lot of fun here for quite a while. I still believe that Jon does care about his shareholders, and would love nothing more than to have this stock healthy and respectable. Hopefully the high prices of oil will translate into a windfall for NNYR, and so the company will have plenty of capital to save us for this grey island of desolation.
GodBless - NoDoubt - creede
~> #board-7229
Thanks for your reply Creede. You know patience has never been an issue with me so much as just knowing that the average shareholder will have a fair shot in the future growth of NNYR. My original shares have already been severely diluted and I'm afraid that by the time the company is up and running I will be left with a pocket full of shares without much value. However, ANY hope is hope and I AM willing to wait. Best to you pal. Happy Father's day to all those out there!
dig,
seems to me it's actually a very strong positive if the company has been successful in raising capital for operations that does not involve the selling of stock (not that NNYR really ever has, because to date they have never even done a single 504 - the corporation was formed from a reverse merger).
Also, let's bear in mind that Jon Ginder is the largest shareholder here, and so he more than anyone else would probably want to get this thing raised from the dead. That said, I have no illusions that it is going to be anytime soon. Even if they had the cash to start immediately, it would still take quite a while to get AF's, register with the SEC (10-12g), and then find the right Market Maker to file a 15c2-11. Realistically speaking, I think best case scenario it would take at least a year. Two would probably be more likely.
But hey, i'll take anything at this point, since I am not willing to dump my shares for next to nothing.
I still think that NNYR has a chance, or I would not be the moderator here.
So, in other words, us long time holders of common stock only are screwed? Did I get that right? I never read of Jon making any hopeful statements about the average shareholder. If I have this wrong I apologize. I hope someone can tell me otherwise. Best to all.
http://www.northamericanenergy.net/index.php?action=more&type=news&nid=72&id=134
Investor Newsletter News
June 13, 2008: This Partnership/Investor Newsletter is designed to help keep our investors and partners informed on the kinds of things we’re currently working on, and how these things might interact with Northamerican Energy’s goals and plans for the future.
Specific public announcements and news releases will continue to be posted as newsworthy events occur, but in the time periods between those releases our Investor Newsletter will fill in the gaps and continue to keep you, our investors, informed.
Acquisition of New Leases & Wells: Last month we announced that we reached an agreement to acquire the Breen Lease, an 80 acre state lease adjacent to our Boren B lease which is owned by the Master Limited Partnership .
That acquisition has been completed and the 3 wells on that lease are in process of being worked over and reaquipped and should be on line by the end of the month adding additional production for our partner/investors.
The acquisition of additional leases and wells for the Partnership is an ongoing process to and additional acquistions will be announced as reported on as agreements are finalized.
All of the leases we plan on acquiring for our Partnerships are properties that are in a mature, existing field, and were developed and operated until they became inactive in the past 10-15 years when oil and gas prices did not support their continuing operation.
These leases, and their wells, are low-cost, low-risk, primary production properties in need of workovers using a number of workover procedures and after completion we are certain they will return investment, and the workover costs, quickly resulting in positive cash flow for the Limited Partnership within 6 months after completion.
Offices and facilities: We are happy to announce that as part of our rapid growth and expansion we have acquired new offices in Katy, Texas and will be moving as soon as the offices are equipped and furnished. Further details will be forthcoming soon.
We are also finalizing the acquisition facilities in Imperial, Texas for the use of our field operations. Imperial is located in close proximity to both our current production, and the production we plan on acquirring, all of which will allow us to more effectively manage our field operations.
Other Items of Interest: $130+ current oil prices, coupled with the fact that we offer our investor/partners ownership in proven production allows us to offer our Partners/Investors returns far greater that they might be able to generate in the current stock market.
In addition 20-30% (depending on the investors tax bracket) of that return is effectively sheltered by the oil and gas depletion allowance (IRS Publication 535-Section 10).
Due to the overwhelming response to our offering the initial Limited Partnership has been sold out and closed, however Northamerican Energy Master Limited Partnership II was incorporated on June 6th, 2008 to offer our investor/partners an opportunity to participate in the next phase of our growth.
This partnership will continue to provide the necessary capital funds for the acquisitions we have in process and help us to meet our goal of expanding Northamerican Energy's presence in the market.
In closing we are excited about the new partner relationships we have developed over these past few months as we continue to have lots of new, and exciting opportunities made available to us and hope that these Partnership Investor Newsletters will help you to keep current on what’s happening to our company, and aid you in better understanding what we’re attempting to accomplish.
Kindest regards,
Jon Ginder
Chairman & CEO
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Northamerican Energy Group Corporation
P.O. Box 691172
Houston, Texas 77269-1172
Telephone: 281-944-3180
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