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maybe a buyer was waiting for that drop - the usual one - and gave up and bought a bunch and drove up the price an extra penny or so
I was waiting for the late day sell off that never came! Actually the stock gained strength in the last 20 minutes and I have to ask myself why?
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Futures extend gains after April jobs data
May 3, 2024
(Reuters) - U.S. stock index futures extended gains on Friday as fresh evidence of easing labor market conditions boosted hopes that the Federal Reserve could cut interest rates sometime this year.
A Labor Department report showed nonfarm payrolls increased by 175,000 jobs in April, compared with expectations for an increase of 243,000, according to economists polled by Reuters.
The unemployment rate stood at 3.9% compared with expectations that it would remain steady at 3.8%, while average earnings rose 0.2% on a monthly basis against forecasts of 0.3% growth.
At 08:30 a.m., Dow E-minis were up 520 points, or 1.35%, S&P 500 E-minis were up 55 points, or 1.08%, and Nasdaq 100 E-minis were up 249.5 points, or 1.41%.
https://www.streetinsider.com/Reuters/Futures+extend+gains+after+April+jobs+data/23167990.html
California welcomes hydrogen alternative fuel infrastructure
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Posted Apr 25, 2024
Electric vehicles have exploded in popularity. But many auto experts believe there’s another green technology with even more potential — hydrogen-powered cars. As Mark Niu reports, innovators in the state of California are leading the way in trying to make that a reality.
How Nikola is building a Hydrogen Highway with Ole Hoefelmann | Loaded and Rolling
FreightWaves
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Posted May 1, 2024
In today’s episode Ole Hoefelmann, president of the Nikola Energy division at Nikola joins us to talk about their Hydrogen Highway plan to establish refueling stations. We also dive into Nikola’s plans on how they are expanding their HYLA hydrogen refueling stations nationwide through partnerships, collaborations, and funding.
Penny flippers day after day! Lets get the R/S done and get out of this trend we are in!! I'm sure they will line up institutions to buy stock after the R/S to keep the shorts from getting out of hand!
I need to redo the math
what is your split ratio ---- that gets a shrunken 12 - 16 (we agree on say 20% shrinkage in PPS post R/S)
A $12.00-$16.00 price would put the share price somewhere between $0.60 - $0.80 before R/P.
current price about 65 cents
so 20 x 65 cents does not get us 16 even before haircut for being reverse split
I will take 1 share at 16
Versus 20 shares at .65
or is my math wrong?
My guess it will be a 20/1 R/S which will probably end up with a $12.00-$16.00 price.
thank you - I will listen
He makes some very good points in the video!
Is there new information in some video NKLA posted ? I assume it is a sales job for RS?
and re cars
seems to be a bunch of companies and articles saying for cars ----- HYBRID will be huge -- and that will take a lot more from the EV side as % of current sales
Love it
Will worry about Chinese competition for Class 8 trucks in 5 years == right now everything that supports H as a REAL and LASTING fuel for cars and trucks is great news
GREAT
agree
every station is a plus for H truck sales
but - in looking at revenue and profit - I now will push out any thing of size on HYLA for years
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Amid Elon Musk's Visit To Beijing For FSD Push, China Is Eyeing 'Economical' Hydrogen-Powered Vehicles As Next Alternative For Green
Pooja Rajkumari April 29, 2024
Tesla CEO Elon Musk recently wrapped up his visit to China, sparking speculation about the introduction of the full-self driving (FSD) system in the country. However, this visit comes at a time when China’s auto sector is focusing on hydrogen-powered vehicles with policymakers introducing various incentives and business applications to position China as a global leader in this clean energy source.
What Happened: Both central and local governments in China are rolling out a range of incentives to encourage the use of hydrogen-powered vehicles, South China Morning Post reported recently.
For example, Sichuan province is contemplating the removal of highway tolls for these vehicles and lifting restrictions on their access within the city. The province also plans to construct hydrogen refuelling stations and offer subsidies based on the standards of the charging stations.
Hydrogen, a carbon-neutral energy source, allows quick refuelling, making it an ideal choice for large commercial vehicles. Guotai Junan Securities analyst Pang Junwen pointed out that Sichuan’s initiative could make hydrogen-powered vehicles a cost-effective alternative to diesel-fuelled trucks.
Sinopec, China’s largest oil and gas producer, has constructed 11 hydrogen fuel supply centres and 128 hydrogen refuelling stations. Recognizing hydrogen energy as a new frontier for emerging technologies and industries, China, already a significant producer of electric vehicles and lithium batteries, is keen to explore this avenue further.
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https://www.benzinga.com/markets/asia/24/04/38484139/amid-elon-musks-visit-to-beijing-for-fsd-push-china-is-eyeing-economical-hydrogen-powered-vehicles-a
DNU, true, however, Nikola needs hydrogen refueling stations to be available now, regardless of ownership, in order to sell trucks. The trucks have an insatiable need for hydrogen supply, so once Nikola is able to sell thousands of trucks a year, and has funds, they'll be able to build their own refueling stations.
I want stations
I doubt NKLA gets a direct benefit
DNU, FirstElement Fuel is a Nikola partner, not sure what the terms are.
Nikola and FirstElement Fuel Forge 10-Year Strategic Partnership to Advance Hydrogen Fueling Infrastructure
FirstElement Fuel named authorized Fueling Solutions Partner for Nikola Class 8 hydrogen fuel cell electric trucks
Published December 20, 2023
https://nikolamotor.com/nikola-and-firstelement-fuel-forge-10-year-strategic-partnership-to-advance-hydrogen-fueling-infrastructure
Key quotes:
FEF is in the process of installing a number of hydrogen refueling stations capable of fast-filling for Class 8 trucks. This strategic initiative with Nikola will enable an acceleration of FEF’s commitment to building hydrogen infrastructure to serve transportation hubs in areas where clean solutions are imperative.
Nikola plans to develop a series of new hydrogen fueling locations under the brand name HYLA throughout Southern Calif. in the coming months followed by Northern Calif. to support the recent launch of the Nikola hydrogen fuel cell electric truck. Supplementing these stations will be a network of hydrogen fueling solution partners that will create additional hydrogen fueling opportunities for Nikola customers. The combination of these hydrogen fueling options will help facilitate the adoption of hydrogen fuel cell electric trucks and the decarbonization of transportation.
It is First Element
So NKLA trucks I believe have a fueling location - and that helps sales -
but HYLA is not part of this - right?
OK
and the do not need to sell immediately - but need more space
does that mean they need the R/S
US finalizes new rules that will allow clean hydrogen producers to sell tax credits
https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/policy/us-finalises-new-rules-that-will-allow-clean-hydrogen-producers-to-sell-tax-credits/2-1-1634016
Oakland Port Hosts World’s First Large-Scale Commercial Hydrogen Truck Stop
Story by Jim Motavalli • 3h
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a60619293/firstelement-fuel-opens-hydrogen-truck-refueling-at-oakland-port/
I can't imagine them selling big time, any positive news,.. i think they don'want the stock to run, as it might sway investors to not vote for the RS
Does that mean we are not going to get positive news on May 7th?
I find if you own shares and are a retail investor, you are against the RS cause you are going to loose big time.
If you don't own shares or very few,... You are for the RS cause you going to make money when you buy at the low.
How low will it go before the RS,... It seems like the company is not trying to keep the price up before the RS, ... That alone stinks!
what they are saying is that :
a) they need to have more shares to cover already committed convertible notes and employee option plans.
b) they dont need to sell shares immediately as they have c 12 months cash
c) They may need to access the market later in the year and have to have the ability to do so.
Most businesses once their O/S gets to 80% of the A/S will be looking at R/S options like Nikola did.
Now we kmow why there hasn't been any insider buying!
Yes they initially suffer the same haircut but are quickly issued new shares at the new price,.... We have to buy them at the higher price.
You are correct - my math was “fuzzy” on the magnitude of the officer’s bonus shares.
yes, pre R/S the officers shares are reduced as all A/S are.
However, with a proposed 1B A/S after a R/S the officers receive 130M shares out of the new A/S pool which has been “reduced” to “only” 1B. The share value initially will have increased by 10 - 30 times (not forty as I think I stated previously).
Dilution Monitor
Outstanding Shares
716.79M + 62.67M = 779.46M
779.46M + 79.87M = 856.33M
856.33M + 128.87M = 985.20M
985.20M + 34.8M = 1.02B (6 Nov 2023)
1.02B + 140M = 1.16B (14 Dec 2023)
1.16B + 18M = 1.34 B (1 Mar 2024)
1.34B + 20M = 1.36B (25 April 2024)
they say 1B
but that is POST R/S split count
the ceiling is being raised - just a question of how much
A 40/1 R/S effectively ultimately would increase Nikola officer’s share value x4.
?
So - you are suggesting NKLA is going to award officers ---- 100MM new post RS shares?
I did not see that in the materials but I only skimmed
but yes - it will be allowed - possilbe with the new much high authorized share count
not sure if it is always 4X -- or is that dependent on the actual ratio of the R/S
and do they - management - not get a loss exactly like us !!!! on all shares they hold already --- i.e. R/S is bad as it will decline - say 20% - just "because" post R/S. Do they - management - not suffer the same haircut?
?
they reduce the outstanding count
and indeed - have said the authorized count will drop to 1B
but with say a 1:10 reverse split - that means 1B is the same as 10B of the old - current shares - as a cap
they will have to issue shares is what they are saying
IMO
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Air Products announces plans to build network of commercial-scale multi-modal H2 refueling stations
24 Apr 2024
https://h2-tech.com/news/2024/04-2024/air-products-announces-plans-to-build-network-of-commercial-scale-multi-modal-h-sub-2-sub-refueling-stations/
Air Products announced it intends to build a network of permanent, commercial-scale multi-modal H2 refueling stations stretching from Edmonton to Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
“With abundant resources, tremendous talent, and forward-thinking governments, Canada is driving the clean energy transition forward,” said Seifi Ghasemi, Air Products’ Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer. “Last year, Air Products announced our continued investment in Western Canada with the first permanent, commercial-scale H2 refueling station in Alberta. Today, we build on that commitment with plans to build additional commercial-scale multi-modal H2 refueling stations, developing a H2 highway connecting Alberta’s two largest cities and enabling the continued development of the region’s H2 ecosystem.”
The permanent, multi-modal H2 refueling stations will be equipped to serve heavy-duty vehicles, such as commercial and municipal trucks and buses, as well light-duty H2 fuel cell cars. The stations will be along the Queen Elizabeth II Highway that runs through Calgary and Edmonton, providing a fueling experience and speed that is similar to gasoline or diesel. This H2 infrastructure will help Western Canada reach a goal of 5,000 H2 or dual fuel vehicles on the road in five years.
“Each of our state-of-the-art, high-capacity, high-reliability stations will be able to fuel up to 200 heavy-duty trucks or 2,000 cars per day,” noted Rachel Smith, vice president and general manager, Air Products Canada. “In Canada, H2 is essential to decarbonizing transportation where heavy-duty vehicles travel long distances in extreme temperatures. We are excited to be activating Canada’s first H2 corridor here in Alberta.”
The first of Air Products’ permanent H2 refueling stations, located in Edmonton, near the site of the Company’s landmark net-zero H2 energy complex that is under construction, is scheduled to be onstream in 2025. Currently, Air Products has placed a temporary, H2 mobile fueler on the site that is supplying customers. The permanent Edmonton H2 refueling station is supported in part by $1 million (CAD) in funding from Natural Resources Canada’s Zero Emission Vehicle Infrastructure Program.
Hon. Jonathan Wilkinson, Minister of Energy and Natural Resources Canada, said, “The development and deployment of H2 presents an enormous economic and environmental opportunity for Canadians. The federal government is prepared to seize this opportunity, and today’s announcement by Air Products shows that Canadian companies and innovators are also continuing to lead the way on H2. I congratulate Air Products on today’s exciting announcement. Together, we will continue to establish Canada as a leading producer and supplier of H2 on our path to net-zero by 2050.”
Hon. Danielle Smith, Premier of Alberta, said, “H2 is a fuel of the future and our government is fully on-board with efforts to pursue early adoption of H2 technology. I’m thrilled that Air Products is working toward development of a H2 highway between Edmonton and Calgary. This will help grow Alberta’s H2 ecosystem and spur on additional interest, investment, and progress in the H2 space.”
Hon. Dale Nally, Minister of Service Alberta and Red Tape Reduction, said, “This is exciting news and a great leap forward in growing the use of H2 as a transportation fuel in Alberta. By adding H2 fueling infrastructure along Alberta’s busiest transportation corridor, Air Products is helping to clear the way for H2-powered vehicles as a viable clean alternative to EVs. Alberta’s government knows H2 has the potential to be a major source of clean energy here at home and around the world, and today’s announcement is helping to turn that vision into reality.”
Jim Wood, Mayor of Red Deer County, said, “Red Deer County takes pride in supporting trucking and logistics; we are excited that future trucks driving along the QE2 will have easy access to a clean alternative energy fuel source.”
Malcolm Bruce, CEO of Edmonton Global, said, "Air Products' bold initiative to build a network of multi-modal H2 refueling stations between the Edmonton region and Calgary marks a significant leap forward in Canada's clean energy journey and the 5,000 H2 Vehicle Challenge. Announcements like these will help us in reaching our goal of having 5,000 H2 or dual-fuel vehicles on the road in Western Canada in five years. By connecting our two largest cities with this H2 highway, we're not just fostering innovation; we're catalyzing a sustainable future. This investment underscores our shared commitment to advancing green technologies and propelling Alberta to the forefront of the H2 revolution. Canada's path to net-zero truly runs through the Edmonton region."
In addition, Air Products has a H2 mobile fueler at the Edmonton International Airport to provide H2 for the airport’s fleet of Toyota Mirai H2 fuel cell vehicles as well as a mobile fueler located on Aurum Road ready to serve the broader Edmonton market.
As the world’s largest supplier of H2, Air Products has hands-on operating experience with over 250 H2 fueling station projects in 20 countries and the company’s technologies are used in over 1.5 million fueling operations annually.
Voted against the 'RS 1-for-10 and/or 1-for-30 proposal'. Because I think 1-for-10 and/or 1-for-30 is too much IMHO.
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NKLA Stock: Nikola Chairman Doubles Down on Need for Reverse Stock Split
Nikola seeks a reverse split in order to focus on its business operations
Apr 11, 2024, 12:32 pm
- Shareholders will vote on a reverse stock split proposal at Nikola’s (NKLA) upcoming annual meeting.
- Nikola seeks to reverse split its shares in a ratio between 1-for-10 and 1-for-30.
- NKLA stock is currently trading below the pivotal $1 level.
Nikola (NASDAQ:NKLA) stock is plunging lower by more than 10% after the company filed a proxy statement to document the proposals at its upcoming annual meeting of stockholders. These proposals include a reverse stock split in a range between 1-for-10 and 1-for-30 and reducing authorized common stock to 1 billion from 1.6 billion. The date of the meeting has not yet been confirmed.
Nikola also seeks to increase the common stock available for issuance under the Nikola Corporation 2020 Stock Incentive Plan by 130 million shares. This proposal cannot be enacted unless the reverse split proposal is approved.
https://investorplace.com/2024/04/nkla-stock-nikola-chairman-doubles-down-on-need-for-reverse-stock-split/
$NKLA
What?
If there is a R/S then they will also authorize a decrease in A/S to 1B from 1.6B.
BUT:
They are doing that decrease in A/S AFTER the R/S.
So, a decrease in everyone’s shares by 10/1 to 30/1 as well as total A/S.
Then there will be an increase in the A/S back to the “reduced” A/S of 1B.
Share holders percentage of Nikola is reduced greatly.
Then add in the 100+M shares out of the “reduced” new 1B shares for the Nikola officers.
At this point Nikola sells what’s left of the “reduced” new shares which further dilutes share holders portion of Nikola.
Because they will need cash for a bit longer.
So no, all things being equal, a R/S does not dilute, per se. Subsequently selling “new” shares does and it further magnifies the existing shareholders losses.
Of course management covered themselves when they added authorizing the 100M+ shares for themselves, after any new A/S.
Of course this might not occur.
RS does NOT affect authorized shares. That will stay at 1.6bn
Normally this allows the company to raise a lot more cash.
NKLA has stated that is not the purpose of the split and to show their intention are REDUCING the AS after the split.
Very few companies do that.
RS will reduce authorized shares and also at the same time will bump up the shares price!
This manipulation will allow them to stay in nasdaq listing.
The worse thing is that they could sell more shares down to $1 again !!!!!!!
This is my experience what other companies did!!!
Hmmm, fuzzy math. Please note the timing of the steps Nikola proposes.
Also, I stated Nikola proposes a 1 billion A/S: but that would be after a proposed reverse split.
So:
The Nikola float is currently 1.24B. (Out of 1.6B current)
A 10/1 RS brings the float to 124M.
Now Nikola proposes increasing the A/S to 1B (while saying they are “reducing” it). This occurs after the R/S - again after.
Then, after the R/S and the purportedly “reduced” 1B A/S, subtract 100M+ shares for Nikola officer compensation.
The dilution begins as the “new” A/S (in addition to the 124M plus 100+M) are sold to fund Nikola’s business as they will need to for until the hydrogen market grows and it reaches necessary production volumes.
A 40/1 R/S effectively ultimately would increase Nikola officer’s share value x4.
But we loose value as the stock falls before the RS. I doubt we will be $1 when it happens.... Most likely going down till it happens,... There's the rub!
If they could call for a RS , do it the next, then announce a slew of great news,... Yes,... But impossible to do.
And what happened to the 5 things Girsky said were more important than a future RS,... What were they and did they accomplish them?
The RS was announced a few weeks after Girsky said this.
they are in fact REDUCING the number of authorized shares(A/S) not issuing any (O/S)
They probably already are over the 1.6BN if you count all the shares promised in convertibles and in stock options to the board/officers
Hence the need to restructure the shares - a reverse split give them opportunity to reduce the authorized shares
they plan these things our months in advance - like they know they next 12 months cash or easily accessible funding on a rolling basis. I am assuming they cash for this year but may have to sell more shares in an ATM to get cash required for 2025. we will hear more at the earnings call.
R/S will not dilute and that is what they have said so far. it will guarantee Nasdaq listing and give access to cash if needed
Exactly it was their plan all along...which means they lied their asses off when saying a Rev Split wasn't in the cards and the share price would take care of itself.
The ownership structure of Nikola (NKLA) stock is a mix of institutional, retail and individual investors.
Approximately 21.81% of the company's stock is owned by Institutional Investors, 5.51% is owned by Insiders and 72.68% is owned by Public Companies and Individual Investors.
https://www.tipranks.com/stocks/nkla/ownership
You are correct (I did not sleep at a Holiday Inn last night).
But after the R/S, Nikola also proposes offering an enormous number of new shares which, I believe, is where the dilution happens. Note they phrase the new shares as a “decrease” from 1.6 billion to “just” 1 billion.
Since our share count will have been considerably reduced, the proposed addition of up to a billion new shares dilutes our portion of the company (and T Milton’s) a lot.
Of course, correct me at any time.
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Nikola and VectoIQ Acquisition Corp. Announce Closing of Business Combination
Published June 03, 2020
https://nikolamotor.com/press_releases/nikola-and-vectoiq-acquisition-corp-announce-closing-of-business-combination-77
Steve Girsky
Girsky was GM Vice Chairman from March 2010 through January 2014. During that time he was responsible for several functional areas, including:
Global corporate strategy,
New business development,
Global product planning and program management,
Global connected customer/OnStar, and
GM Ventures LLC and global research & development.
Girsky also served as Chairman of the Adam Opel AG Supervisory Board and as interim President of GM Europe during this time frame, a critical period in
which the company established its current 'Drive Opel 2022' strategy. Girsky also held responsibility for GM's Global Purchasing and Supply Chain function
from 2011 to 2013, and served as Senior Advisor to General Motors from January 2014 to July 2014.
https://investor.gm.com/news-releases/news-release-details/gm-announces-stephen-girsky-retire-board-directors
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/shell-stuffing-how-nikola-became-vectoiqs-public-preference
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Nikola and TC Energy Sign Joint Development Agreement
for Co-Development of Large-Scale Clean Hydrogen Hubs
October 7, 2021
Nikola and TC Energy sign joint development agreement for co-development of large-scale clean hydrogen hubs. Nikola Corporation (Nasdaq: NKLA), (Nikola),
a global leader in zero-emissions transportation and energy infrastructure solutions, and TC Energy Corporation (TSX,NYSE: TRP), (TC Energy), a leading
North American energy infrastructure company, have agreed to collaborate on co-developing, constructing, operating and owning large-scale hydrogen
production facilities (hubs) in the United States and Canada.
https://hydrogen-central.com/nikola-tc-energy-agreement-hydrogen-hubs/
#NationalHydrogenDay celebrations continue with a sneak peek of all things happeningat our Coolidge
manufacturing facility, including our Nikola Tre #FCEV, for our next episode of the #DrivingChange series!
1:57 PM · Oct 8, 2021
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Hydrogen Heavy Duty Vehicle Industry Group Partners to Standardize Hydrogen Refueling,
Bringing Hydrogen Closer to Wide Scale Adoption
Published October 08, 2021
https://nikolamotor.com/press_releases/hydrogen-heavy-duty-vehicle-industry-group-partners-
to-standardize-hydrogen-refueling-bringing-hydrogen-closer-to-wide-scale-adoption-137
Gettin' it done. Season 2 of #DrivingChange starts with the continued journey
of the #NikolaTre FCEV alpha builds in Coolidge, Arizona.
November 3, 2021
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