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i agree, i'm just not of a patient demeanor when i dont have all the details in any circumstance i'm involved in. but on the other hand i am very familiar with the variables of any speculative action i get myself into !
go nlst...........
Is NetList one of those stocks with naked puts or heavily shorted~
Shares Short 2.414 M
Shares Short (prior month) NA
Short % Of Float 1.066 %
DaysToCover 4.3
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Payoff will not just be extremely nice, this is a longterm investment. One that will continue to grow over time IMO.
Maybe the moon is pie in the sky, maybe not. Phase 6 implemented since September 1st. Master Agreements exposed, margin calls on derivatives, the World Bank now regulatng the regulator (DTCC). Banks, hedge funds, more importantly large and small home offices that go unregulated impacted by Phase 6.
Already within three weeks 3 trillion dollars has left the US markets. Earlier the week the Bank of England had to start buying back bond they sold pensions due the pensions getting margin called. Plus interest rates pushing the price of those bonds to where pensions which normally buy them are no longer buying because they cannot afford them.
Bank of England had to step in and buy back those being margin called or pensions would go under. This happened in England. Has not hit the U S yet. So Phase 6 having an almost immediate impact in England and the US.
Is NetList one of those stocks with naked puts or heavily shorted~? Doubt it but there are those that are betting heavily against just about all stocks.
Litigation will have an impact on NetList shareprice. Phase 6 could also have an impact on NetList shareprices if those greedy enough are willing to bet against them.
That's good news, but will anyone notice as long as we are stuck on the OTC. Time to uplist.
NASDAQ!
She'll be coming round the mountain...
WidePoint Engages K-12 Schools to Offer Identity & Access Management Solutions
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/widepoint-engages-k-12-schools-132500715.html
Excerpt - The Phase 1 Pilot project includes the elimination of user name and password for Tier 1 IT staff for system and network access, for securing email communication with the schools, and for controlling physical access using existing door readers. Phase 2 will include all school staff members, and scheduling the other phases.
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WidePoint has sole supply of products using the TPM, at the moment and sales are increasing. They could supply this to the entire school system in the US as well as the govt agencies, NASA, Coastguard etc.
When everyone uses the TPM, NLST may get moving.
JMHO.
oh trust me you i firmly believe this goes higher. the funny part is sometimes i get the impression the hold time will out live me!
yes the waiting sux but i'll be here for the pay off.
People just getting tired of waiting, this will pay off hugely.
From what I'm hearing the pps right now should be around $5.00.
Remember the shorts have to cover to make any money, and sooner or later they will start. mho.
i as well gave up on being rich!!! but i am prepared to be paid!!!
I'll gladly take a settlement, let the PPS go up again and then let the dominos fall with the rest. I'm past shooting for the moon and not even thinking about being stupidly rich anymore. Just stupidly comfortable.
Good luck to the people in Florida!
Still waiting for NASDAQ!
NLST, weathering the beeeeeeeeee ess!
This level is holding nicely considering the blood bath on ws
Loading zone right here fellas better get your tickets
i hear ya on that and have no intension of buying anymore as i'm all in. hek i dont even watch it trade much as the orders are all gtc. but let them drag it under a buck and i'll find more money somewhere!!!
manipulation and no patience is a helluva driving force compounded over time, oh is life...........
viva la nlst
It's pretty crazy the market cap for NLST has fell to under $600 million now. I guess the market is just in a bad place and people might be moving their funds into ultra safe things at this time. Not to mention the MMs can do what they want with this right now as the levels of support fall so easily. They mash right through the bottom at will right now.
Just think, NLST is has the same PPS as the scam PMCB.
Can you please repost this so my friend (who has me blocked) Jimmy Joe can see what a debacle this has turned out to be lately. Thanks.
So the MMs held their short positions for over a year? LOL
2.60 holds. gap filled from late June of 2021. back up she goes hang tight :D
Thank you. There are some, like I used to, that live in this fantasy world where Google and the rest are just going to roll over and bow down to NLST. Especially when they have the California courts in their pockets. I still think, my opinion only, is to cut some deals, and they will still be substantial, and move forward with their excellent products.
Thinking about it, you are correct about a PR about how NLST is getting their revenue from these companies that are still using their products.
OK, we tried the dementia(angry, just listen to how he yells during his speeches) grandfatherly type and our economy (and country) has tanked. Time to go back to the mean tweeter (which everybody does) and rectify our country and economy.
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Couldn't have said it any better.
Kudos to the "We should be talking about moving forward and not waiting forever for the odd chance the Dems forget their contributions to them which might move these forward." remark. This is spot on. Funny how this party continues to win with all of the serious problems we have in plain sight. Looking pretty bleak for the senate race this year as well.
That was a bunch of nonsense happy talk over the weekend .
Unfortunately the only PRs that could come out now are about the stalled litigations that could take centuries. We all know they are there. We all know that that all are in NLST's favor. Nothing much more to say about them until the next judge extends them. As you said, averaging down is not feasible at this point for investors who have a lot already or have been decimated by the economy. We should be talking about moving forward and not waiting forever for the odd chance the Dems forget their contributions to them which might move these forward.
Like the disastrous national economy, both NLST and the country need to change course and start moving forward.
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Regardless, getting pretty frustrating to watch this thing take a nosedive day in and day out - clearly many are frustrated as the selling is relentless.
Be nice to get some sort of news on this at some point. It is hard to keep averaging down on something that has shown no signs of life in 5-6 months.
GSOP on YMB saying Micron may be in big trouble having sold NetList's technology to Google.
Micron caught here~?
Inphi is another one that infringed. Anyone have any idea of Inphi's stock price prior to being bought by Marvel~?
Yet another settlement to come.
Unless you need the money right away the wait will be worth it.
They really cannot give anything right now. Too much like forward looking and bold. Steady at the helm.
Judge Seeborg has seen enough IMO. If infringement is allowed to go all rhe way back to February 2004 people had better realize what such a settlement may look.like. NetList has right of refusal if Google doesn't Pony up an acceptable
figure. NetList willing to go to jury trial~?
Google settlement figure may have to be higher
than Google would like to pay out.
Google STILL needs NetList's technology, not the other way around.
Jury trial possible treble damages. Looks to me like Google is in a jam.
Never did like the circus or the tent it came with.
Problem is I don't think there is much to talk about at the moment. They don't normally comment much on current business activities outside of what is required for filings. This thing has been on a permanent drip everyday for the last couple of months. Granted the broader market is recently on the downs due to inflation concerns again, however this is getting pretty worrisome that this will get shorted/sold into oblivion. We now need a 100% run just to get back to prices several months ago. Looking very bleak here unfortunately - especially with the snail court system in the US that doesn't care to address the little guy's issues with the tech giants stealing everyone's patented tech.
Hard to watch, but at this point it's very hard to do anything besides watch as buying doesn't make much sense to me and my current portfolio until I see some positive action here, and selling doesn't make sense with the huge potential upside.
Good luck to all.
A positive press release about anything would stabilize the price, I wished they would give us something.
NLST
I believe he will go for the jugular for certain, then watch Google
fold like a cheap tent right before the jury trial.
Win, win either way (trial or no trial).
tlo.
The highlight from the article was "Judge Seeborg has ruled on Claim 16 and denied intervening rights to Google, a massive win for Netlist. This makes Google liable for infringement of Netlist technology dating all the way back to February 2004." Considering the fact, which I have stated numerous times, that Google was already caught using the technology, there will be money to be made in this case. The question for me now becomes will CEO Chuck Hong settle, take the money, and move on or will he go for the jugular pushing this lawsuit until a jury verdict.
Bullish asf
New Article on SA:
Netlist Still Has The Patents
Sep. 12, 2022 9:48 AM ETNetlist, Inc. (NLST)1 Comment
Summary
Netlist is in what may be the largest patent infringement lawsuit in history.
Netlist has many promising court cases ahead.
Court cases are fluid and change by the day.
Empty American Style Courtroom. Supreme Court of Law and Justice Trial Stand. Courthouse Before Civil Case Hearing Starts. Grand Wooden Interior with Judge"s Bench, Defendant"s and Plaintiff"s Tables.
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Introduction
I maintain a Strong Buy rating on Netlist (OTCQB:NLST). Netlist is currently embroiled in what may be the largest patent infringement lawsuit in history and also has a rapidly growing semiconductor business to go with it. I think the company's case against Google (GOOG) (GOOGL) may yield the largest infringement lawsuit in history. If not, I believe the aggregate of the multiple similar infringement lawsuits Netlist is pursuing will. The hidden jewel for Netlist is that the underlying business has grown over 100% since last year. Big picture, the upside is enormous from a settlement, and the downside is limited due to the rapidly increasing underlying business. I have been bullish on Netlist for over a year, and you can look at my continued support in my articles on Seeking Alpha.
Court Decisions
I have previously addressed all the major court cases in previous articles. For that reason, I would recommend going back and reading those for my more in-depth thoughts about a particular case. Below I have a fantastic summary from StockTwits poster Stokd that will hopefully help show the high level overview of the lawsuits.
netlist court case summary
Stokd
As is quickly evident from the diagram, Netlist is a highly complex company. Not only do investors have to value the company's business, but they also have to analyze multiple complex lawsuits and track them as they rapidly change. Add in the fact that the company lacks coverage by Wall Street due to its small market cap and OTC status, and investors have a very interesting opportunity. The only major settlement that Netlist has had was with SK Hynix for a number far below what many expected. Important points to remember about this case are that the company needed money at that time and that SK Hynix is not the big fish in these cases. I believe the company settled to give them enough funds to support the lawsuits they cared the most about it.
I want to highlight a few things on the diagram. The Google case on the far right is the premier case. Earlier in the year I wrote about Netlist's key win in this case. The highlight from the article was "Judge Seeborg has ruled on Claim 16 and denied intervening rights to Google, a massive win for Netlist. This makes Google liable for infringement of Netlist technology dating all the way back to February 2004." Considering the fact, which I have stated numerous times, that Google was already caught using the technology, there will be money to be made in this case. The question for me now becomes will CEO Chuck Hong settle, take the money, and move on or will he go for the jugular pushing this lawsuit until a jury verdict. While the latter would certainly yield more money, lawsuits are never a sure thing. Additionally, federal courts typically heavily encourage a settlement to save time and resources. I think the best decision is to settle and continue to build the company but I do not think this is likely.
The other thing I want to point out is that there are still multiple cases with Samsung (OTCPK:SSNLF) and Micron (MU) that Netlist sits in good positions. For example, Samsung had their previous contract with Netlist voided which makes all the licensed technology they sold during the period of the contract open to litigation. And, like the Google case, we know that they infringed Netlist technology. But, also like the Google case, the question remains will the company look to settle or take these cases to their conclusions? I will echo my sentiment about the Google case that the company will likely not look to settle. However, only time will tell us the true answer.
Financials
From the company's latest SEC filing, the company currently has $40.4 million in cash on hand, offset by $49.4 million in current liabilities. Because of the complexity of the company and rapidly changing nature of its lawsuits, the stock can move rather drastically and as a result leaves the stock with very high volatility. With that volatility, there is also very low liquidity in a position because of low volume compared to the outstanding shares. The company lost $4.9 million last quarter, equating to a loss of $0.02 per share. The costly lawsuits are dragging down the company's bottom line and limiting profitability. Once the suits end, the company will shed a financial and time anchor.
Risks
Netlist would be an interesting play without the lawsuits. It would have a much lower market cap but would be a rapidly growing chip company. However, this is not the situation. Instead, the company is mainly a series of binary plays surrounding lawsuits that can never be guaranteed to go your way, no matter how confident you are. While undoubtedly, there is a bottom for this company if the lawsuits fail, that bottom is below current prices. In the same vein, be aware of the time delays and uncertainty the American court system brings to a company. Finally, the underlying business is in a rapidly changing field where it is tough to develop any moat. For this reason, companies grow and fade quickly. This company is a high risk high reward investment.
Conclusion
I am maintaining my Strong Buy rating. The company is still in a good position in their court cases. Legal battles have been going on for over ten years, so a few more months to years are not the end of the world. Netlist is a rapidly evolving company on many fronts that can be difficult to follow. Stick to your original investment thesis and hold as long as it has not changed.
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As for some that post, I agree with you, patience. Chuck knows what he is doing. He has been in this battle way before some of us were aware of NetList the Company.
Did anyone expect anything before October~? If so, find a good investment firm and leave investment choices to their discretion. Retail has been getting hosed forever. Maybe that is all going to change soon~? Stay tuned.
Unfortunately there are too many of the " some people get it" and think the litigations are coming to an end soon crowd. Almost all of the big corporations didn't get that way by giving in to the little companies that they steal technology from and by greasing a few palms along the way to keep it that way. Chuck has gotten his well deserved profits, now it's time to move forward and think about the shareholders. Google and the others aren't going down without a long, long fight. Time to move past that, establish NLST on Nasdaq and look at the lawsuits as a gigantic cherry on the top.
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Lots of people feeling exactly like you are , but I also think this “turd” will eventually shine ( or at least smell better)
I agree that Hong and crew have not done everything they can / could to keep the share price reasonable . Too many long, long gaps with zero communication to shareholders. But unlike most OTCs this one has real products, sales and potential catalysts that if triggered , could create enormous opportunities for the patient .
I’m trying to be one of the “ patients” but some days it’s not easy !
Hang in there , I still believe our day or days are coming …
Anything down here sucks. Time to make some cash. Some of us already have enough and, thanks to today's rotten economy, don't have money to add more. We should at least b ed in the 5s.
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It is pretty comical that everyday now there is action pre market and it’s always under the previous close to try to get the ball rolling downhill early on day in and day out. Before pre-market action was very rare. Clear intentions to continue bashing this thing to oblivion while they can.
Anything down here is good Sylvia. Nice buy.
Agreed. That is why it is time to change course.
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As the stock continues to drip to new 52 week lows every single day, I have to say the silence is frustrating. Regardless I feel selling at these basement prices is pretty comical as well. But the MMs will continue to apply pressure everyday because they are making out like bandits. This chart looks awesome for MMs right now. Getting pummeled through the floor every single day.
I beleive he will it takes time
Looks like another outstanding (sarcasm) day for NLST in the oblivion of OTC land. Come on Chuck and start caring about the shareholders and put us on the map.
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Thanks for the confidence!
WTG you will be rewarded hugely I believe.
I just added 100 shares!
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