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Oh but within two months we'll be glad he did barring anymore delays.
I sure am glad that chucky stood firm and didn't go on the Nasdaq after the SKH deal or bite the big one and somehow took less to broker a settlement with at least one of the big three scumbags. Much better to languish in the low ones and fight through the corrupt court systems.
Stokd
12:09 PM
$NLST Current state of things.
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NP its true your the only one that puts anything on here thats positive.. its appreciated.
naaahhh your our main man all the post and reposts are greatly appreciated.
Stokd
6m
$NLST The transcript of the 912/claim 16 IPR Oral Argument was just released, and in anticipation of the FWD (Final Written Decision) to come any day, figure it's worth a post if anyone is interested. This is the one where the judges actually interrupted and challenged Samsung attorney Chandler quite a bit—which in prior Orals was strictly reserved for Netlist.
Who knows, maybe the PTAB can't avoid looking biased and incompetent if they were to invalidate claim 16, and after the 060 & 160 negative results, perhaps they let 912/claim 16 stand. I'm not expecting it, but am I nuts to think we have a chance... optimism mixed with realism. Regardless of PTAB decision, I definitely believe the CFAC will reconcile and get this one right... at the least.
https://ptacts.uspto.gov/ptacts/public-informations/petitions/1549198/download-documents?artifactId=mINOqZM5IJRhAMuR0j2m_kIiffJy5zkj123Z0VfjRWnZVdQOSdy8wkY
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our main man is still stamping a clown on every post.
Case 2:22-cv-00203-JRG-RSP Document 499 Filed 04/01/24
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txed.215248/gov.uscourts.txed.215248.499.0.pdf
DEFENDANTS’ THIRD NOTICE OF DETERMINATIONS
INVALIDATING PATENTS-IN-SUIT
What happened to our Main man???
I certianly know how you feel but we all know its being minipulated and that sometime in the future it will move north again. I know everyday watching it
sink drives me carzy also. We just have to keep the faith.
Yup. It has always been a risky gamble. Not for the faint hearted.
People in Netlist have a decision on whether or not to stay in it.
For me? It's not hard. I believe they will prevail. I'm still buying.
Good luck.
Shorting this when Netlist had their win over Samsung was the smart play here. Of course that's when I averaged up and have been bleeding ever since. Feels like I'm always on the wrong side. Company has been fighting the good fight on the legal side, but has done nothing to support small investors like myself. Thought we wouldn't get below $1 again. But once again, I'm not so sure.
Infringers, PTAB, shorters, market makers, officers selling, trillion dollar companies against us, paid off government officials/judicial system, etc, etc. We are David fighting multiple Goliaths. Truth should prevail, but in our case, I'm not so sure anymore.
I have another buy order in for 1K shares @ $1.30. Don't know if it will hit but it's good for 60 days. I hope it does but then again, I hope it doesn't.
I agree and our country seems to be getting worse, both parties.
Washington DC is where criminals go to become millionaires!
I friggin agree! It pisses me off!
The patent killing PTAB is a complete joke, corrupt, and incompetent. It must be abolished, or American inventors will cease to invent. Big business bought out our glorious, elected officials in Washington DC in order to get the America Invents Act passed so they could steal everyone's patents. What a corrupt bunch of people we have running this country. They are morally bankrupt!
Yes I don't believe it will have any effect on the coming court cases.
The district court also cited to a recent Federal Circuit decision holding that the PTAB is not binding precedent on a district court, namely, Tinnus Enterprises, LLC v. Telebrands Corp., 846 F.3d 1190, 1202 n.7 (Fed. Cir. 2017). In Tinnus, the Federal Circuit upheld a preliminary injunction even though the PTAB had, in the interim, issued a Final Written Decision invalidating the patent-in-suit. The Federal Circuit acknowledged the intervening PTAB decision, but concluded that “[t]he PTAB’s decision is not binding on this court . . . .”
Netlist Loses Two IPR Patent Trials Related To '060 And '160 Patents Filed By Samsung And Micron As All Netlist Patent Claims Have Been Determined To Be Unpatentable.
Just bought another 1K at $1.45. Down goes my average - a little.
I don't know. I just got home from Home Depot to see 156K shares get dumped down to 1.38.
To depressing to watch.
Back to doing my home repairs.
Where is everyone today with this train wreck 😮
From ChatGPT
"When a party issues a "notice of compliance" in the context of a patent infringement suit, it generally refers to a notice sent by the defendant to the plaintiff informing the plaintiff that it believes that its product or activity at issue does not infringe the patents in dispute. This notice is usually accompanied by a detailed explanation of why the defendant believes that it is not infringing the patents.
The purpose of this notice is to allow both parties to clearly understand each other's positions and, in some cases, to explore possible out-of-court settlements. In certain legal systems, issuing a notice of compliance may have specific legal implications, such as establishing a potential defense should the case proceed to trial."
This is nothing new. Samsung has claimed this many times before and it is the foundation of all their appeals to the PTAB.
Yes, it is simply another step needed to get the idea of "prior art" in front of the jury, before the trial actually starts.
I don't know but as I read the definition of Prior art Notification is that Samsung is going it to try to argue to the Jury that "Prior art can be used to show that your invention is not “new” or “non-obvious” — and these are two of the most important requirements for patentability.
https://henry.law/blog/what-is-prior-art/
Case 2:22-cv-00293-JRG Document 698 Filed 03/29/24
Samsung's Prior Art Notification
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txed.216364/gov.uscourts.txed.216364.698.0.pdf
According to some, Prior art notifications are often filed in patent suits, sometimes just before a settlement agreement is reached.
Happy April Fools day!
Will NLST be be fooled again today?
Netlist, Inc. v. Samsung Electronics Co, LTD (2:22-cv-00293)
District Court, E.D. Texas 698
Mar 29, 2024
Main Document
Notice (Other) https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64861664/netlist-inc-v-samsung-electronics-co-ltd/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc
Netlist, Inc. v. MICRON TECHNOLOGY TEXAS, LLC (2:22-cv-00294)
District Court, E.D. Texas 78
Mar 29, 2024
Main Document
Notice (Other) https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64861663/netlist-inc-v-micron-technology-texas-llc/?order_by=desc
yeah...... what he said..........
Bowlsketball
54m
$NLST I'm a long-time reader and first time poster. I have been invested in Netlist for few years. I know the last few months have been a slog with regards to the share price, but I am feeling real good about what is in store for the next couple months:
- Micron trial starting at the end of April for the same patents we already won against Samsung
- BOC trial against Samsung starting in May. Scarsi is aware of Samsung's shenanigans and they have put themselves in a hole.
- Gilstrap will release the ongoing royalty payment for the previous Samsung/Netlist trial after the BOC concludes. This will be huge and could provide much-needed relief to Netlist's balance sheet
Along with these three items, I expect revenue for the 1st quarter to be in the $40 - $50 million range based on Gail's comments during the previous earnings call.
I think all of these things will push Netlist's stock price to a minimum of $4 with potential to go to $10 - $15.
Go Netlist!
Stokd
2:24 PM
$NLST Just look at the image... what a travesty!!!
"In 91.8% of petitions, PTAB management did not assign three APJs with the correct educational background and experience to panels. That is an incredible number and shows that the PTAB has no expertise at all, let alone the agency expertise of the USPTO."
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Stokd
2:18 PM
$NLST Nice find! It's why CAFC matters.
-"The PTAB is an appalling failure, invalidating 84% of the patents it fully adjudicates, thereby unleashing massive predatory infringement of small entity patents by huge corporations."
-"but what is their experience in the field? Applying the belief that a law degree coupled with technical or scientific education somehow provides USPTO agency expertise is a bridge too far and disrespectful to inventors."
-"Most APJs have little to no work experience in the field of their degree. Generally, they get their undergrad and go straight to law school. Yet, even without experience in the field, it is their technical or scientific degree alone that qualifies them to adjudicate the validity of our nation’s most important patented inventions."
-"Each PTAB tribunal consists of three APJs. You might assume it is imperative that all three would, at the very least, have a degree in the patented technology. This is not the case in 91.8% of PTAB petitions."
https://innovationgadfly.com/hopelessly-inexperienced-ptab-judges-are-destroying-u-s-innovation/
Stokd
1:35 PM
$NLST Regarding the letter posted today that was sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee opposing the nomination of Vidal for USPTO Director... around the same time another letter was sent in opposition — (1st pg in pic & link for rest) "We are inventors..." --- "Together we hold more 7,000 patents covering a wide range of important fields including AI, IoT, 5G, power generation, energy storage, environment, materials, transportation, and biotechnology. However, we are struggling to compete ever since the USPTO has been shaped and controlled by corporate interests under the 2011 America Invents Act (AIA). In particular, the USPTO has shifted its focus from promoting innovation to revoking previously approved patents at the Patent Trial and Appeal Board (PTAB). As big tech and China advances, U.S inventors are increasingly blocked from competing by our very own patent office, which has been heavily politicized and influenced by the trillion-dollar corporations."
https://usinventor.org/wp-content/uploads/Kathi-Vidal-Letter-from-Inventors.pdf
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NLST at least this gives us some hope that the Court of Appeals will see our pahtents much differently than at "The Kangaroo Court" known as the PTAB. https://sih-st-charts.stocktwits-cdn.com/production/original_567797831.png
$NLST Check out this letter dated 1/5/22 from https://prosperousamerica.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/220105-USPTO-nominee-ltr.pdf They new what Vidal would do as the Director of the USPTO. I urge everyone to file SEC complaints at https://www.sec.gov/oiea/Complaint.html. This corruption must be exposed. We can't let them get away with this!!!
FrankFromYahoo
3:01 AM
$NLST Just an example! Look at the ongoing claim 16/912 IPR. Samsung did nothing else than argue that claim 16 is based on (a mere) combination of two prior art elements, from the fact that NLST argues that these two references are not eligible (because not published before the priority date). This CAFC judgement definitely reduces/eliminates the margin of the PTAB to invalidate a patent based on obviousness resulting from the combination of two or more prior art elements. Petitioner and PTAB must find additional hard fact argument. Not enough anymore: the mere existence of two or more prior art elements.
NLST I don’t know if any of you have previously cited or even seen this but it’s just beautiful to me. Enjoy!
https://patentlyo.com/patent/2024/03/obviousness-motivation-combine.html
https://stocktwits.com/AlyGatorTheGreat/message/567773919
its all bs. remember they also said they were ready to go in 1-2 weeks and we acknowledged them ok and then yoder screamed from his death bed no no make a scheduling conflict it'll work just like my covid call out, but i forgot to get a doctors note that time. this will happen soon enough, the stupid card only works for so long.........
they just want to delay and delay and will say anything to accomplish that. they know they lost and will use anything within the options of litigations to do it. thats what happens when ya got money to throw around. like the old saying goes, why ya think there do'n that, ''because they can''.
like i said before, i just hope i live long enough, but i do know they will win. its the when we getting paid part i'm concerned about. balls in their court !!!
Samsung is saying that the volume of disputed items that the pretrial has to cover will be so huge, that it would not give their counsel enough time to prepare their case for the actual trial, which is now supposed to start on May 14th (8 days later).
As far as the April 8th date that Samsung wants is concerned? Samsung is being coy. When Samsung petitioned the court for a trial continuance (after the Yoder incapacitation was revealed - https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17206527/469/netlist-inc-v-samsung-electronics-co-ltd/), Netlist agreed to a small continuance. They went on to outline the weeks in which a continuance would not work for them (other trial conflicts).
NETLIST’S STATEMENT
At noon on Monday, March 11, Samsung reported on Mr. Yoder’s health
emergency, stated that he will not be able to continue on the case at all, and
informed Netlist of its desire for a “1-2 week” continuance while an additional trial
member is added to its team. Netlist readily agreed, but explained that any
extension longer than a week was not possible because of three other back-to-back
trial commitments in April and May.
Why did Samsung object to may 6? Why would they want it on april8? I’m so confused
Hopefully there won’t be another delay and hopefully we win!
April 29th Full Jury Trial
Following Week:
Final Pre Trial Conference BOC case
May 6th
Following Week:
Full Jury Trial BOC
May 14th
NLST Remember that Samsung just yesterday objected to May 6th—"Samsung’s only objection is to moving the final pretrial conference to May 6, when both parties are available on April 8 (which Netlist’s counsel requested as the trial date just last week) and April 22. There is good reason that May 6 is unworkable:"—and would now seem, apparently by their own admission in picture below, to be in a bad place/f%&ked!
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its great news ! cant wait to get in court !!!
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