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Stokd NLST Minutes from Day 2 of Micron trial were released—linked below.
And I finally got the app to work that makes Pacer docs I pay/pull publicly available on Courtlistener... hope keep working.
Another interesting thing... Rob mentioned that today Dr Stone is on the stand, who is the Micron expert witness that Micron claimed they had to delay/postpone trial for due to a family medical emergency causing this expert to not want to come back for trial, therefore Micron would need time to find another to adopt Stone's position.
Well, I guess it was another ploy that didn't work and the expert is back on the case and trial. Shocker right... they tried the Samsung game!
Looking forward to hearing any details regarding his testimony.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txed.216365/gov.uscourts.txed.216365.131.0.pdf
dude, i'm all in and broke for my extra curricular activities. alls i got left is the monthly nut for the house and living expenses. but i'll tell ya what. if i had the kind of jing your talkin about i'd put in an order for 25-50% of the trading float starting at 2 see how many i could get then go a little higher and shake things up on the l2, wouldnt it be fun seeing a block on l2 for 50-100 million shares just sitting there lol !!! all the msg boards would be freaking out. thats how confident i am there is money to be made here. then get my form 4 status in gear and wait till after google gets its head handed to them.
now back to reality............i want 6 bux to get all principal and substantial profit back asap. next step is ride it out with the rest. the last ones to go are for the naz at the higher pps are in a roth ira, so no taxs........ thats my plan.........
peace my brother.............
its all coming........and sooner than we think. this will be in the billions before its over. hek, between what we got from sk and the scummy verdict is allready over 1 billion. this stuff coming is multiples near future. if there going to drag this out they all got one option left. that option is there final appeal 18 months out, maximum from current verdict, and thats if cafc doesnt tell them your denied pay now lol !!. thats when we get guaranteed payment because its game over.
and again i reiterate, warwick will get our 912 over ruled and put back in action. vidal is on the spot, do or die, vs. warwick, or warwick and cafc. lol !! thats in motion as warwick already served her the documents.
Will someone just Man up or Women up or Whatever you identify as Up and buy the remaining shares and bring us to full dilution
Ok we can live with either 20-30% but let's hear about a royalty rate in the near future.
BolliverShagnasty
30m
$NLST For those who keep mentioning Treble? Be satisfied with the great numbers already on the table.
It doesn't get awarded very often. Judge Gilstrap has never awarded more than 20 or 30% enhanced damages in a civil case. The only time he trebled was against a Govt contractor. I don't know about Judge Seeborg.
Don't expect it. maybe some percentage if Netlist even asks for it but I would never expect Treble.
BolliverShagnasty
35m
$NLST In the past we never really had the numbers for the 912 patent per unit. Now we know.
Micron is BIG
Samsung is BIGGER
Googly GOO is Biggerestly Biggerest HUGE!!
https://stocktwits.com/BolliverShagnasty/message/573861921
NLST $MU With the potential numbers now known for damages from only 2 of our patents for 3 years I would think that Micron has a fiduciary duty to their shareholders to settle and obtain licensing agreements. Putting a small contingency note in their 10Q saying it accounts for all of their revenue is just bullshit for everyone invested with them
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TOMKiLA
49m
$NLST If the data on the Kennedy damages already came out yesterday, I expect a verdict as early as Thursday considering that this case is progressing very quickly. The overall number of micron damage is excellent, it's a great starting point. let's remember that Samsung will soon have to answer for the same damages + an additional patent (if I remember correctly).
This is a message of hope for all of us.
https://stocktwits.com/TOMKiLA/message/573857491
robcobb
9:00 AM
$NLST Today we start with Dr.Stone and then Dr.Lynde .This is where Micron will try to tear down Kennedys number and try to prove no infringement.We will see how it goes
today . I will give my opinion on what happens as soon as I am able.About to go in the courtroom for a long day!
BolliverShagnasty
7:31 AM
Good morning Netlist longs worldwide! If you look at the rates and remember that Judge Spero(magistrate in charge of Discovery in California for you new people here) said in the Google case to Jason Sheasby and Andrew Straybone that Google's sales and benefit were on the table in regard to damages. How long has Google done over $100 billion a year in sales?
It's not very hard to get to over 10 billion in damages with Google based on the numbers we are seeing!
TOMKiLA
4:28 AM
$NLST the data that has emerged is very interesting, in my opinion excellent on the one hand and below expectations on the other.
• $513.5 million in damages for 3 years of rdimm and lrdimm 912
• $8.7 gives rdimm unit (here I'm perplexed because with hbm and ddr5 in the sansung case, netlist obtained double this data)
• $55 per lrdimm unit, in line with the latest Samsung case so excellent
• $33 million in damages p.417
• $34 per unit lrdimm p.417, I thought better here too
therefore the total units damaged are: 33 million/34$ pee unit 417= 1 million units
▪️ I would say 10% lrdimm 912 on total $513m = $51.3m/55$ units = 800k units
◾️ $440m rdimm 912/8.7$ units= 50 million rdimm units!
in short, the micron case seems to be really big and it anticipates the samsun chr data we will see in the future. the $8.7 per unit makes a huge difference, a real shame because if they had been in line with the Samsung case, today we could have read about $850 million in damages!
https://stocktwits.com/TOMKiLA/message/573828694
NLST Here's Sheasby's opening statement from yesterday and some examination and reexamination of a few witness. See the commments for all 14 docs. Enjoy
https://stocktwits.com/Durango24k/message/573824601
Stokd
12:40 AM
$NLST SilviaJ makes a great point—
"Instead, our next case was the 00294 (with 912 and 417 patents). No one expected very much from Micron (the smallest DRAM maker) with these (supposedly) less damaging patents."
With that said/in mind, what is the infringement number going to look like in the Samsung 293 trial, which is on the same 912!?!? Samsung being the largest player in the industry, the giant... will there be a $"B"$ when Sheasby lights up that trial?!?!
Holly cannoli...🔥
SilviaJ
12:25 AM
$NLST Today was another case clearly demonstrating the value of NLST IP.
A while back Chuck Hong notified us that NLST's new "power management" patents applied to DDR5, not just specialized LRDIMM or NVDIMM modules; they ALL would use PMICs, invented and first deployed by Netlist over a decade ago.
About the same time we got news that NLST's HBM patents were going to be used in the case against Samsung....not knowing (at the time) how important they would become to Machine Learning and the AI craze. The result was an eye-popping $300 Million award.
And then, everyone thought the big Micron suit would be the 00203 case (same patents as Samsung). Instead, our next case was the 00294 (with 912 and 417 patents). No one expected very much from Micron (the smallest DRAM maker) with these (supposedly) less damaging patents.
Surprise, Surprise, how were we so fooled........again!
There is no conceivable way, in which this minor case, could possibly surpass the Samsung verdict. Right?
https://stocktwits.com/SilviaJ/message/573823910
Stokd
Yesterday 11:59 PM
$NLST Haha... how F'ed is Micron! Crying and explaining how Netlist outplayed them at trial... you can smell the desperation and defeat. Their focus is on defending against willful infringement allegations, because infringement is a given... and will be proven willful.
They're miffed because the letter Netlist sent notifying them of infringement of patents involved in all current Micron cases, was sent the same day as Netlist filed the WD merged cases, and didn't disclose to the jury.
Well, that's for the same reason Micron comlains they can't defend/speak on it either, as bringing up parallel litigation was ruled out by Gilstrap. It just so happens the letter covered all patents, and the 912 paten in this case/trial is relevant to the letter, regardless that the WD case was filed same day.
You did sit on your hands Micron regarding the 912, though you started litigating WD—you had to being sued. Nice try muddying the waters, Gilstrap has seen it all, was there, and is ahead of U.
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https://stocktwits.com/Stokd/message/573823150
NLST Micron just filed this now. They are upset about Netlist April 2021 letter to Micron about them infringing. The rest of the docs are in the comments. Drama, drama & more drama!
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https://stocktwits.com/Durango24k/message/573823113
prime311
Yesterday 10:42 PM
$NLST One more thing that came up today that I forgot to mention. I didn’t write this down, so that’s why I forgot earlier and am going off my best recollection. There were frequent references to Micron being a member of JEDEC, and to an internal Micron document that explained the importance of being a member of JEDEC. The document was brought up in the questioning of multiple witnesses, especially in the video depositions. Netlist kept pointing out that the document said one of the important reasons to be a part of JEDEC was to be privy to technology before it was public. Also referenced gauging and reverse engineering competing products and technologies. They showed that the 912 came out was published in 2009, and presented to JEDEC in 2010 with Micron being present. They showed the roster from the presentation Then showed how Micron launched its DDR4 products between 2012/2013. https://stocktwits.com/prime311/message/573819800
Durango24k
Yesterday 10:34 PM
$NLST If i were to take a speculative guess, I think Gilstrap might drop the 'Future Royalties' ruling on Samsung's 463 case from last year sometime next week following the conclusion of this weeks Micron case. He's had all the relevant documents from both parties in his hands since Dec 1, 2023. Replies, sur-replies, etc. He knows what he wants to do in my opinion. How perfect would that timing be? https://stocktwits.com/Durango24k/message/573819410
Here is a link to a transcript of the last PTAB hearing.
https://ptacts.uspto.gov/ptacts/public-informations/petitions/1550898/download-documents?artifactId=7aQ4_yiBlwnIXczVgfxBCsJ9nR1c447sEImPgtcsi2kpNA6GQ3u9BPQ
i know, but its the future we're looking at. there all still going to need licenses as well.
hoping so, and yes i would like that run up !
I'm a little late to the conversation, but hell yea I'd have taken that 20 a share. Put some in the company that bought NLST and found something else. Right now it's stagnant/lost money, still at the mercy of the courts. That would have been sure money, not still tied up in corrupt system.
I should have added but it was late night, this would take the right group to come into NLST
Is that just for the 912? Holy cow.. just to 2021.. talk about getting off easy…
With Judge Gilstrap anouncing royalties against Samsung and the boc win and micron win friday we could see 6-10 in the next few wks, 9 million short
I don't know how many days to cover but there could be a squeeze. If I was short I'd be sweating bullets.
now we know better than that ! lol !!!
Stokd $NLST Curious time to show up all of a sudden and offer "assistance" Iphawk—nervous! Maybe you should read it...or hoping some just take your word—opposite is true!
Doc#123—"Pursuant to the Court’s May 14, 2024 Order, the Micron Defendants hereby provide an update to the previously served list of invalidity theories, prior art references and combinations, and equitable defenses.
The Court’s Order stated that Micron’s prior notice was “unclear” and Ordered Micron to “stat[e] in no uncertain terms whether it will be asserting any invalidity defenses or equitable defenses and, if so, what defenses it will be asserting.” In response, Micron states as follows, in view of the United States Patent Office final written decision invalidating the ‘912 patent and its institution of inter partes review of the ‘417 patent: MICRON IS NO LONGER ASSERTING INVALIDITY THEORIES AT TRIAL, with or without prior art references/combinations. Micron will also not be asserting equitable defenses at trial."
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You sure they only infringed for 3 years? LOL
So based off them numbers samsung at 5 yrs infringement and goog at 10 yrs infringment equats to about 3.5 billion in just royalties. Not including everyday business or lisencing fees. Which is equal to about 12$-15$ per share. We got some clear blue skys ahead and ready for lift off whoop whoop
prime311 $NLST So I arrived in Marshall around late morning, so I only got to see the afternoon session. Dr. Mangione-Smith was in the middle of being crossed examined. I made sure to put the hyphen in Mangione-Smith. There’s a story to that, but that’s @robcobb ‘s story to tell 🤣. There were a couple of other Netlist investors there, such as @Timsplace . Always nice meeting our fellow investors. My notes aren’t very good for Mangione-Smith’s cross examination because I didn’t hear the original testimony and was trying to catch up. However the focus seemed to be on the word “transmitted” from claim 16. The debated whether things have to be received to be transmitted. And on the 417 Micron focused on latency, read/write or both, claim 1 requires more than 1 buffer. I won’t be able to give more than that because I wasn’t there for the original testimony. Netlist redirect seemed to go well, and then they went to video depositions. Continued in comments
https://stocktwits.com/prime311/message/573816051
robcobb $NLST I want to say everything looks good at this point ,but we haven’t heard the expert witnesses from the other side yet.Roughly Micron has 7 hours left for testimony and Nlst has 4hours left. I usually don’t count my chickens till they hatch myself . I can tell you the Micron lawyers are not going to lay down!With saying that I think they have been very weak in their arguments so far !To be able to finish by Friday the jury and spectators (myself included) are having very long days. I was going to drive home one night but due to weather expectations and length of days in court have decided against it . We will see what tomorrow holds , I will let everyone know when I know!
$NLST $546,270,000 for 3 years of infringement!!!!!!
get some baby !!!
BolliverShagnasty NLST got an update from Rob Cobb. You're going to like what he has to say and he kept it short and sweet cuz he needed to call his wife and get some food. Judge Gilstrap is pushing to finish this by Friday and Jason will probably rest his case tomorrow.
He said Kennedy did very well today and this is what we've all been waiting for. During the period of infringement and question which is April 28th 2021 to May of 2024 Micron has 6.4 billion dollars in sales.
Kennedy came up with a rate for the rdimms of $8.69 related to the 912 patent per unit.
Lrdimms for the 912 he came up with a rate of $54.68 per unit
Lrdimms for the 417 he came up with a rate of $34.04 per unit
Damages for the 912 patent are $513,440,000 for the period in question!
Damages for the 417 patent for the period in question are $33,260,000
Again I want to remind everyone that they cannot question validity!
Stokd $NLST For any other inquiring minds — his name is Harold Stone, he was not listed as an expert/witness in Day 1 Minutes from trial, which I posted this morning.
https://sih-st-charts.stocktwits-cdn.com/production/original_573795683.png poor little micrap....
Sounds like someone here, jet, who does the same thing on the dmbb site....lost money 15/20 years ago and can't get over it.
Hong really has nothing to prove to anyone and does what he feels is necessary so no problems or second guessing him on his motives. Walking in his shoes much different than sitting in ours. All clowning aside it is fact that he is the real master of our destiny. Best for us to just keep a positive attitude and follow along. Just my 2 cents.
there not creative enough for that level of achievement !!!
edit, excuse me, i meant entertainment !!!
it was pinky that had the 2 year hiatus, the fact is just a like minded individual, but yeah there not here for what i'm here for.
nlst baby !!!
get some !!!
NLST Rob Update says Mangione Smith is a rockstar today. Rob said the questions coming from Micron 1 hour into the cross examination of Mangione Smith are very boring. Mangione Smith however is a Rockstar and he showed point after point in slides where Micron infringed each piece of claim 16. and also the 417 patent claims 1-2-8-11-12-13-14. We might have to check notes later on those.
He said reading Facial expressions it looked like Microns attorney Hill was going to hurt himself frowning as Mangione Smith chopped his feeble weak Micron knees from under him. (Yes infringers are weak kneed).
He also said it appears there is a whole row of Samsung people there. He thought he recognized some of them. (IMO probably waiting to get word back to headquarters to throw Micron under the bus as the ship continues to sink)
there is 1 more hour of Mangione Smith and then probably Kennedy who is also sitting there.
That's all we have for now but to reiterate, Rob said the Jury is seeing Mangione Smith destroy Micron in his opinion.
Could very well be. Or, they are shareholders who have lost money and are pissed off. Either way? They only are telling half the story of what is happening and what COULD happen.
I am fully aware of the negatives of owning NLST. But I will continue to focus on the positives of what a successful outcome could bring. I went into this with eyes wide open and knowing full well that NLST could lose. There were a few things I wasn't quite aware of when I first invested. But I know about them NOW and I have not sold yet.
Good luck!
They might be paid to do their work.
Responding to Boxster and Fact master is fruitless. They have their opinion's, and they are certainly welcome to have them and express them here.
They do point out the negatives of owning stock here and they are real. I'm not saying they are not. However, it seems that they totally ignore the possibilities. Anyone responding to them gives them their "soap box". Like I said, I'm not saying they don't have a right to be here and express opinion. Let them. For myself, I've put them on ignore. Isn't it rather strange that Boxster hadn't posted for months - just graced us with his clown-ness. Fact-master posted years ago (2022) yet now, all of a sudden? He suddenly reappears and rears his ugly face here. Think it's a coincidence, that these two clowns start avidly posting FUD, right when Netlist is starting to triumph in court???
I don't!! Their agenda is easy to see. Actually, it can be said that their sudden FUD posting is a sign that NLST is doing quite well - and they do NOT LIKE IT!
I'm focusing on the facts:
Netlist is a REAL company with many employees. They have millions of dollars in revenue coming in every quarter. Yes, they're not making money and the simple reason is the legal fees being spent. Yes, they are OTC QB, but the reason is that Samsung's actions decimated their customer base. They lost a billion dollars in sales (reported in court minutes). Think about where they would have been had Samsung stuck to the JDLA agreement. They HAD to come off the Nasdaq. They HAD to rely on share sales and borrowing to survive, while they fought Samsung, Micron and Google. This is why it is hard to refute the statements of the fudsters.
Come on guys. Just iggy them and be done with it!
Netlist is finally getting their days in court and it is working out for them - at least to date. Let's concentrate on what is happening there and ignore the FUD suddenly appearing here.
warwick in action............... https://sih-st-charts.stocktwits-cdn.com/fit-in/500x0/filters:quality(75)/production/original_573760544.png
and add in vidal under the microscope........
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174444715
i love the way the board is lighting up with color its phantasmagorical and those neon shorts really compliment your pink hair. keep'm coming your gonna be here awhile, and the best part is you'll be here long after i'm gone lol !!!!
Netlist stock given Buy from Roth MKM amid legal victory
they see what i see, warwick bringing it home..........
https://www.investing.com/news/company-news/netlist-stock-given-buy-from-roth-mkm-amid-legal-victory-93CH-3449479
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