Nano Cap Club (NANO)

[rrufff]

It should drop by the amount of the dividend.

[creede]

BUERF showing more strength on the Bid now: 1.21 x 1.41

My concern is that after the Divy it will drop back down to 80 cents, so I'm gonna pass on it.

[creede]

re INDN - yeah, I was just kidding.

Is interesting to note that it is up $5k from when I created the thread.

See ibox.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=10723

Another non-typical pinky.

I would guess the o/s must be about 500 to have a price like that.

Think?

[rrufff]

INDN - what do they do? Is that the baseball club? I noticed they had both a bid and an ask now so pretty tight LOL

24,500 x 25,000

[creede]

yeah, I see a bunch of Form 4's on the first page. Goto the second page and you can find some of the older ones in the Form 20's.

Did not realize they were behind.

For the most part the stock has traded .80 x 1.00. I think I bought some at .71 and sold them at 1.00 - if memory serves.

Have not seen any dilution in the stock. I think the o/s is 15mm, and has been the same for a long time.

Might be a good one to watch for the Form 4's, as it may tip their hand that the divy is coming end of year.

Picked up any INDN yet?

[rrufff]

Looks like the ultimate high risk/high return play. Are they selling shares? Financials? I didn't see any on pinksheets.com.

Congrats to anyone who stuck it out with them. Pretty wide trading swings, with more than 3 bagger from March. Looks interesting. Will have to add to my watch list.

Nice play, not your typical pinkie LOL.

[creede]

re BUERF -

Risks Associated with Refining

Our subsidiary faces logistical issues which may affect its ability to ship product on a regular and reliable basis, which could negatively impact the demand for our cobalt or our operational costs, and reduce the economic viability of our operations.

Our subsidiary faces many logistical issues both in the shipping of finished product and the flow of incoming supplies and spares. The remote nature of the location of our refinery facility, only 40 miles from the Democratic Republic of Congo border in western Uganda, means that deliveries cannot be scheduled on a regular and reliable basis.

Our subsidiary faces logistical issues as it has to import most of the supplies and spare parts that it requires to operate which may affect its ability to operate the refinery on a continual and consistent basis, which could increase our operating costs and as a result reduce the economic viability of our operations.

Most of the materials needed for the operation of the plant are imported into Uganda from various sources worldwide, including North America, the European Union, Australia and South Africa. This remoteness



necessitates long pre-order periods, often several months in advance. Most shipments are by vessels and arrive through port of Mombassa, Keyna. This port is incredibly congested due to huge increase in traffic into East Africa in the past decade. It is estimated that there are presently in excess of 5,000 containers awaiting onward shipping from Mombassa to destinations in northern Kenya and Uganda.

Once the container has cleared the port there is a further three day road journey to our refinery including the Ugandan border clearance to be negotiated. Transport vehicles are often in poor condition and the state of the roads can vary enormously. It is not unusual for critical supplies to be delayed while a replacement truck is located and dispatched to solve a breakdown problem. A major delay in an incoming shipment of a single process product could cause a temporary shut-down of the entire plant and the subsequent extended re-start process.

Our subsidiary faces logistical issues as it has to export all of its cobalt to various world markets which may affect its ability to ship product on a regular and reliable basis, which could negatively impact the demand for our cobalt or our operational costs, and reduce the economic viability of our operations.

The same problems are to be managed in reverse when shipping cobalt to the world markets. Trucks are not available locally and must come from Kampala to move the sealed containers to Mombassa. Once again the port congestion can cause delays in lading. All of this results in extended periods between packaged product ready for shipment and the bill of lading documents to facilitate payment by the customer.

Our subsidiary's cobalt refining operations are subject to market forces beyond our control which could negatively impact the demand for our cobalt or our operational costs, and reduce the economic viability of our operations.

Currently, we earn revenues exclusively from the sale of cobalt that is refined by our subsidiary Kasese Cobalt Company Limited. The marketability of cobalt is affected by numerous factors beyond our control. These factors include government regulations relating to prices, taxes, royalties, allowable production, imports and exports, any of which can increase our operational costs or reduce our refining capacity. In addition, cobalt prices are volatile, and supply and demand for cobalt fluctuates. Consumers, fearing further price increases, tend to increase their purchases in times of rising prices and, anticipating further price decreases, reduce purchases in times of price decline. If the demand for cobalt were to decline, or if we were to incur significantly higher operational and regulatory compliance costs and taxes, our economic viability would deteriorate and the continuation of our business would be threatened.

Our revenues are largely dependent upon cobalt prices that are subject to dramatic and unpredictable fluctuations. A significant drop in cobalt prices could threaten our ability to continue operations .

The current demand for and supply of cobalt are the fundamental influences on the metal's prices, as are technical trends, currency exchange rates, inflation rates, changes in global economies, political factors and a number of other factors. The supply of cobalt, in turn, consists of a combination of mine production and existing stock held by governments, producers, financial institutions, and consumers. As a result, cobalt prices are subject to dramatic and unpredictable fluctuations.

Due to weak cobalt prices in 2002, the Kasese Cobalt Company refinery was placed on a care and maintenance program under which all cobalt production ceased by September 2002 and operations recommenced approximately one year later when cobalt prices improved.

[creede]

Not sure, but I have been tracking it for quite a while now. Pulled off one trade and made a few hundred bucks quite a while back.

They actually paid out $1.04 per share in Jan 2008.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=28458931

I have read a lot of the filings, and it really is a very interesting company. They mine cobalt out of Africa, or some place like that. It's a pretty high risk business as I think cobalt is their only product, and where ever they get it from is extremely dangerous.

[rrufff]

Wow - never heard of that one. Real company?

F- at the end for "foreign"?

Does it trade elsewhere?

[creede]

Look, a pinky that is going to pay another cash Divy.

Wish I would have held on to the 800 or so shares I had earlier in the year.

Think it would be smart to snag a few?



Blue Earth Refineries Inc. Announces Cash Distribution
Dec 22, 2009 7:31:00 AM


>>
HONG KONG, Dec. 22 /CNW/ -- Blue Earth Refineries Inc. ("Blue Earth") (Pink Sheets: BUERF) announced today that its Board of Directors (the "Board") has approved a payment of a special cash distribution in the amount of US$0.41 per share. The record date for shareholders entitled to receive the payment will be December 29, 2009. The payment date will be January 7, 2010. The distribution is a return of capital and therefore no withholding tax will be payable.


This distribution will limit Blue Earth from making further cash distributions in the near future unless prices for cobalt stay constant, the existing production levels remain the same and until the delivery of the cobalt has occurred to fulfill the forward derivative obligation.


With the extreme volatility and uncertainty of the market price of cobalt, the inherent production and delivery risks, the Board views this transaction as a way to help control its uncertain future and create value for its shareholders as of today.

<<

About Blue Earth Refineries Inc.

>>
Based in Hong Kong, Blue Earth Refineries Inc. owns a cobalt ore refinery company.






<<
CONTACT:
Rene Randall
604-408-8538
[e-mail]

[rrufff]

Just to follow-up on ESFS - presence with Whole Foods is being expanded. I think that food and water safety is going to just keep getting bigger for many reasons, unfortunately, but good for this company.

ESFS .12 x .135 - more with Whole Foods - should be big mover next year - food/water safety

Whole Foods Widens Scope of Eco-Safe Ozone Disinfection to Installation in Commissaries
Dec 21, 2009 6:00:00 AM

LOS ANGELES, CA -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 12/21/09 -- Eco-Safe Systems USA, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: ESFS) is pleased to announce the first sale of an Eco-Safe Ozone Disinfection System to the chain of Whole Foods Commissaries.

Michael Elliot, President of Eco-Safe, stated, "After having excellent success with Eco-Safe Ozone Disinfection in their stores, Eco-Safe management coordinated with Whole Foods corporate staff to replicate this success for their commissaries. Multiple systems were installed in the commissary serving the Southwest region comprised of 32 Whole Foods Markets, and they have been delighted with the results. Nine Whole Foods commissaries provide pre-packaged foods to Whole Foods Markets throughout the U.S."

Elliot continued, "This opens a new market for Eco-Safe Ozone Disinfection. Commissaries are an essential part of the system of food distribution, and we see this sale as our entry into a large number of corporate operations. The Whole Foods testing found our system provided greater shelf-life and increased product quality, which will undoubtedly be the case for other commissaries. Our sales and marketing teams have a new focus in 2010 to penetrate major corporate commissary operations."

About Eco-Safe Systems:

Eco-Safe Systems, based in Los Angeles, is the manufacturer of patent pending water treatment and water reclamation systems. Our technologies produce ozonated water for food disinfection and water purification at significantly less maintenance cost and greater energy savings than our competitors in a completely green and organic manner. We currently offer supermarkets and restaurants a cost effective way to safely extend the shelf life of meat, poultry, seafood, fruits and vegetables. Please visit us at www.ecosafeusa.com for more information.

The foregoing contains forward-looking information within the meaning of The Private Securities Litigation Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements involve certain risks and uncertainties. The actual results may differ materially from such forward-looking statements. The company does not undertake to publicly update or revise its forward-looking statements even if experience or future changes make it clear that any projected results (expressed or implied) will not be realized.

Eco-Safe Contact:
Michael Elliot
President
Eco-Safe Systems USA, Inc.
www.ecosafeusa.com
Email Contact

Investor Relations & Communications:
Worldwide Financial Marketing, Inc. USA
Int'l: 1-954-360-9998
U.S.: 1-866-360-9998
www.wwfinancial.com

[creede]

Hey rrufff,

have to say that this has been about the fastest year of my life. I'm very blessed in many ways, and quite thankful to still be in the stocks making trades with friends like you, mike, and the rest.

[MikeDDKing]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too.

[rrufff]

Hi Mike and Creede - thanks for the notes - most of those on the cited list are further up the scale in terms of what is often discussed here on IHub. I think the market has been such that there are more opportunities in low float, fully reporting plays. Unfortunately, almost nobody over on these boards cares about them as they tend to be extremely slow and frustrating as opposed to the ones that run briefly on momentum, hype and air. I have preferred this type of play over the years, as opposed to the promoted Momo's, as this type tends to play out irrespective of the market and the rabid "crowd." They are extremely high risk and potentially high return, nonetheless, but at least one has a shot of evaluating fundamentals. TA is pretty meaningless as the number of trades in short periods of time are not statistically useful.

Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - it's amazing how quickly the time has passed when we are having fun.

[MikeDDKing]

I own bot AMLJ and MKRS in that list.

[creede]

Hey rrufff, thanks for the list. Kinda shows how far out of the loop I have been of late, as I do not recoginize a single one of those. Will have to check a few of them out and get back to you.

Hope you have a Merry Christmas, my friend.

[rrufff]

Hi Creede - hoping you're enjoying the holiday season.

Like some of the "Kitchen" micros - that haven't moved - low floats, no promotion

e.g.,

AMLJ 1.30
ESFS .115
AEMD .35
CONX .10
MKRS .28
PHPG 1.25
UFFC .09

all high risk "story" stocks (health or food, defense) typical but multi-bagger potential. None are momentum plays. Check 'em out if you have time.

[creede]

Good to see you, rrufff. Resentment is an ugly thing. The true prisioner is the person holding the grudge.

Any nano caps looking interesting at the moment?

[rrufff]

Another multiple alias self-styled "cyber sleupp" revealed. RB has it even worse. There's some bottom crawlers who must have been booted there 20 times or more, all claiming to be good people, yet they break the rules over and over, solely to attack and manipulate.

http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=26127979

Can cindyyahoo duckhuntress chubbywife be far behind?

[Crow3]

A caveat for Scamsters.

Historical statements are not protected by disclaimers. A lie is a lie. So avoid telling lies with false numbers. Instead use "we expect" that next year we will become profitable. We had "record sales" last quarter. DO NOT SPECIFY HOW MANY WERE SOLD. "We have a large number of orders pouring in" But do not give out any numbers.

NEVER LIE ABOUT NUMBERS THAT CAN BE VERIFIED OR DISPROVED.

ALWAYS LIE ABOUT EXPECTATIONS but disclaim helloutathem.

Here are/is the consequence(s) of lying about historical
facts. If you get caught, that is. Which you will if you get too big for your britches.

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/suspensions/2009/34-60788-o.pdf

[Crow3]

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/suspensions/2009/34-60788-o.pdf

Trading suspended SPNGE. NEVER LIE ABOUT HISTORICAL FACTS.

They are not protected by "safe harbor" disclaimers.

[Crow3]

SPNG has picked up an E.

[Crow3]

AVSC up .77 already. Where did that come from...very high volume. Needs much research. Just began trading, need to look up its histpry as a Company. Suspicious trading..buys and sell too close together.

[creede]

no doubt.

[BIG BALLER]

*that's awesome!!!HA!!!!

[EDWARD STEVENSON]

I believe it could be interpreted on different levels.

[creede]

Nice post, ES. Good to see you here.

Does that post relate to best to WLSA, LBWR, or both?

[creede]

Been a great call, crow. Congrats.

[EDWARD STEVENSON]

Perception: Something to think about...



Washington, DC Metro Station on a cold January morning in 2007. The man with a violin played six Bach pieces for about 45 minutes. During that time approx. 2 thousand people went through the station, most of them on their way to work.

After 3 minutes a middle aged man noticed there was a musician playing. He slowed his pace and stopped for a few seconds and then hurried to meet his schedule.

4 minutes later:

The violinist received his first dollar: a woman threw the money in the hat and, without stopping, continued to walk.

6 minutes:

A young man leaned against the wall to listen to him, then looked at his watch and started to walk again.

10 minutes:

A 3-year old boy stopped but his mother tugged him along hurriedly. The kid stopped to look at the violinist again, but the mother pushed hard and the child continued to walk, turning his head all the time. This action was repeated by several other children. Every parent, without exception, forced their children to move on quickly.

45 minutes:

The musician played continuously. Only 6 people stopped and listened for a short while. About 20 gave money, but continued to walk at their normal pace. The man collected a total of $32.

1 hour:

He finished playing and silence took over. No one noticed. No one applauded, nor was there any recognition.

Findings:

No one knew this, but the violinist was Joshua Bell, one of the greatest musicians in the world. He played one of the most intricate pieces ever written, with a violin worth $3.5 million dollars.. Two days before Joshua Bell sold out a theater in Boston where the seats averaged $100.

This is a true story. Joshua Bell playing incognito in the Metro Station was organized by the Washington Post as part of a social experiment about perception, taste, and people's priorities. The questions raised: "In a common place environment, at an inappropriate hour, do we perceive beauty? Do we stop to appreciate it? Do we recognize talent in an unexpected context?"

One possible conclusion reached from this experiment could be this: If we do not have a moment to stop and listen to one of the best musicians in the world, playing some of the finest music ever written, with one of the most beautiful instruments ever made.... How many other things are we missing?

Bell’s performance:

[Crow3]

A positive move for SPNG?? I think so.

http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1252954152&article=39424802&symbol=NB%5ESPNG

[inspro]

GNVC is in phase 3 trial cancer drug and appears to be mimicking phase 2 trial,seems as though they have found a delivery system for TNferade

[inspro]

gnvc warrants a look in my opinion

[creede]

All I can say is that more than broke my expectations on the new ibox logo!

Very nice.

Ok, who is going to fess up?

Was it that big harry dude?

too funny.

[rrufff]

Hope you got out of SPNG .204. I don't know if there is any support for it outside penny stock world but I see they just announced 1/100 r/s. Looks like you made some good runs since you brought it here, but r/s typically causes a flight as it masks dilution and management looks suspect with this type of move.

Best of luck with your trading.

[inspro]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/eWorld-Companies-Confirms-No-iw-960059832.html?x=0&.v=1

[inspro]

EWRC, looks very good to me , kind of a you tube with revenue

[Crow3]

Here is some highly unusual info re SPNG.

I believe it merits another look.

http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1251730487&article=39262751&symbol=NB%5ESPNG

[inspro]

wow, rruff wish I had a way with words as you do, well put.

[Crow3]

Made a recent hop up from 6 cents to 45 or so.

[Crow3]

ANYBODY looked at IVOB?? It was pitched to me and I did not bite. Maybe I should have.

Take a look.

[Crow3]

I normally stay away from pinkies and OTCBB stocks. But I am not averse to grabbing a quick double or more.

The pennies give far more leverage and a faster buck, though.

So I am listening for any good suggestions, and will try to live up to CREEDES expectations re being an assistant monitor here.

I do like your aversion to shorting, which I share in spades.

[rrufff]

I'll probably stay away from SPNG at this point as I don't like to get in after big runs. However, that strategy causes me to miss momentum runs and, as I said, I was impressed with the apparent timing of your trades here. Looks like you out-predicted most posters out there.

Congrats again!

[Crow3]

Thanks for the compliment. Truth is, I am a lousy picker.

I did buy and sell with a double and am still looking at it.
I was in and out right after I heard about it.

There are issues re that share count and horrendous naked shorts left to create caution.

But as you say, they are advertising like mad.

The company is well financed and selling product in a lot of drugstores and department stores.

You cannot be sure of the share count unless you, with your matchless talent, can find out. I do recommend that you check it out, but not yet ready to suggest that you go for it.

[rrufff]

Crow - you've become a great stock trend picker. You dropped LBWR and went for SPNG I think. I haven't followed the SPNG soap opera but looks like your predictions are better than the others I've been seeing all over the place. Looks like it hit .18 today.

What's the story with it? How far do you think it goes? What's up with the share count? Every time I watch a baseball game, there are signs advertising the company. Is that a promotion scam or just good advertising?

Continued good luck with it!!!

[Crow3]

Shorting should be outlawed, period.

We do not need a "stable and etc market". We need a market that seeks its own level. With no interference from the Govt or anyone else.

All the evils that flow from shorting, including naked shorting and failure to deliver can be solved very simply. JUST OUTLAW AND DISCONTINUE SHORTING, period.

A very small number of traders in the markets use shorting, anyway. Your average trader does not even understand the concept. It is mostly the professionals out to manipulate the market that are shorters.

[rrufff]

I'm not sure if "Survivor" from SI still posts over here. If so, perhaps you could extend an invitation to post here. He is opinionated, but is able to see both sides and then can argue for a change in opinion when the situation changes. He has shown an ability to make money even when a stock goes down over time. He takes advantage of trading ranges and produces "freebies" in high risk pinkie trading.

In any event, I wanted to archive some comments I made with respect to his style of "telling it like it is" on message board analysis.

Survivor - that's one of the best posts I've seen and you have been objective in calling the shots with respect to this stock. I also have to commend you on pointing out the hypocrisy of those who take posts out of context. You clearly have seen positive things over the years and invested in LBWR. You saw enough negatives to trade the stock. You have posted both positive and negative comments. It would be taking your posts out of context by attacking a particular post where you posted a positive. In reality, you have been an objective trader, not a blatant bull or bear. You have looked at the situation and assessed it AS OF THE TIME OF YOUR PARTICULAR POST. Those who attack you for doing this just don't want you to post and want to intimidate you.

As with many or most of us, the prospects of a transparent pinkie were sufficient to get us interested. Over the years, we have been disappointed with the lack of performance as compared to the promise. Yet, many of us assess the risk and the possibilities that the company will become transparent and successful. Pink sheets, almost by definition, present an extremely high risk environment. Anyone buying in should understand this and treat it as if he is playing blackjack in a casino. It is clear, by your posts, that you understand this and that your own trading style has been extremely successful even where an overall macro and specific stock trend has collapsed.

You have pointed out that there are self-styled "cyber sleupps" that seem to spend their lives looking for posts, waiting for those posts to be proven "wrong" perhaps years in the future, when the attacked poster clearly was opining with respect to a short-term trade in a very risky and speculative environment.

Then the "sleupp" claims to be a sleuth, but has merely been shown to be obsessed with posters, not the stock. Ironically, the "sleupp" often will post that he does not care about posters and is here to save the world from other people's scams. (Mention short scammers, naked shorting scams, MM manipulation and the "sleupp" wants to turn a blind eye, as it is not a scam he wishes others to discuss.) Yet, the "sleupp" has access to archives of sometimes 10's of thousands of posts. Even after the environment has changed from the time the attacked poster had posted, the "sleupp" is there to say that the attacked poster was wrong. It's meaningless as the environment and the facts have changed, but the one-track-minded "sleupp" just doesn't understand this. He has one goal and that is to intimidate others from posting opinions. Of course, the "sleupp" also conveniently forgets that there are often opportunities to trade out and in lower, to lower cost basis, and as you have so-well shown us, to actually profit by trading and have freebies.

The "sleupp" does not have time for this as he is too busy with his world of pointing out what he wants others to believe with respect to posters. You raise an interesting question with respect to how a "sleupp" makes money though. I hadn't focused on that.

Nice going.

One question for ya....You say here that you are glad you never had any position in LBWR, right? May I ask why you are so interested in bashing so many stocks that you have no position in? What is the point? Why not spend time being more productive or at least having fun if you are so wealthy that you do not need to work? Or do you consider your postings as work?...Peace and have a great rest of the weekend and happy trading, assuming you do actually trade a stock every now and then....

[Crow3]

SPNG is still dragging about, LBWR is in a hassle, and the overall market stinks today.

Which is why I went to the bigger boards loookin for sumpin that has fallen too much esp for one days trading. HRBN buy is the result.

[Crow3]

For those that might wish to desert the pennies for a spell, look at HRBN. It is not yet at the pinnacle, but it is heading there. Trades about 14 to 15 right now with very good potential to 20 bucks. Aint no flipper, but short term potential in my book to score a couple bucks.

I only bought a thousand but probably should have went for more.

So I can kick my own butt if I am wrong. Yall can keep score, and tell me when to loosen up my leg...LOL!

[rrufff]

Agree, except the noun you used fails to show the true shrew. LOL.

[sidesh0wb0b]

haha, nice. way to capitalize! quite the trader you are! they are almost worth having around...