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It seems by now that should be fixed. geeze. Doesn't Hub use stock charts .com for feeds?
Well almost hit 39.50 trailing stop put me at 39.37 so I'm happy. The bulls look like losing control for today a with news.
this is what comes up for a stock quote for MSI here on Ihub
Movie Star (MSI)
$ 1.50 ?0.00 (0.00%)
Volume: -
when this is what should come up:
Stock Information
NYSE: MSI
Jan 26, 2011 4:00 PM ET
Price:
$39.24
Change:
+ 0.54
Volume:
5,947,100
Quotes delayed at least 20 minutes. Information provided by eSignal.
Which I got to by going the investors link at the bottom of this page
http://investors.motorolasolutions.com/
I've reported the problem to Meatloaf....
in other news:
Motorola warns of first-quarter net loss, shares fall
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/105516/20110127/motorola-warns-of-first-quarter-net-loss-shares-fall.htm?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70P8O120110126
I guess the Bad news did not matter MSI still on for a $39.50 mark by tomorrow. To top if off I had 1 that moved and sold 24% and one that hit 19% a good day all in all.
used to think that but after Jan 22, '09
I'm pretty sure that diversity isn't key
because if you have a diverse basket and they're all losers
it's just about as bad as being stuck with one really big loser
Bad News and Bad News... sucks but thats trading!
China worried about Euro market raising rates, another lawsuit against msi and to top it off state of union. I should of known better. I will have to wait it out till next week. But at least I have some real winners yesterday and today. Diversity is the key.
well two yrs ago on Jan 22 was one of the worst days of my life
you simply couldn't compete with those computers shorting the living daylights out of everything
you're braver than me buying before Oboy speaks....
GL!
Hope it does well for you.
Big time BUY on msi today my price target of 39.5 should hold true IMO as always ppo looked very good as adx. BIG caution on President's address tomorrow it can cause idiot panic on any trade.
But signals show this stock definitely up tomorrow and with no bad news up again. Lets hope!
cheers
IMO BUY
I was LIED to, by my broker, as a follow up to my previous post.....Today, after being told that the fractional remainder would be "embedded" into the share price, for the MMI transaction, I see a cash dividend remainder amount has come to my account, for MMI. Go figure. So, as far Fidelity "knowing" what they are doing, I'm convinced it's CAVEAT EMPTOR.
I got a fractional remainder cash amount, from the MSI resultant, but did not receive one from the MMI resultant. When I read about the "fractional remainder" parts, in the MOT PDF for the split/spinoff, there is a small difference in how these remainders were "paid out". Even though I've read the MMI part several times, I still don't quite understand "where" the MMI remainder "went". My best guess is it was embedded? into the share price for MMI, as of the moment the action took place. Mine was a small remainder for MMI, but I still wonder about the millions of dollars total aggregated, in fractional remainders of MMI, that was/were "infused" into the share price, instantaneously that morning. Do I understand this correctly? The MSI action did not see this "change", since MSI fractional remainders were "paid out" to shareholders, accordingly.
that could be it
notice we've had a symbol change on the board
Maybe it's that my account is a SIMPLE IRA, and everything involves more "hassles", since it's all sheltered til retirement time. Just a guess. For example, I still don't show any fractional leftover money, but it will probably appear in the money market portion(cash), as of 4:01 EST today. Makes no sense. Sometimes, with cash distributions from a Canadian REIT stock, I wait 3 to 4 days until it appears, and they've taken out a silly Foreign Tax, additionally. I've asked them just "Who gets this foreign tax money?", and they don't exactly know. I've joked with them, "The UN?".
don't think they'll do that with all the splits that happen
it would create a mess elsewhere
that's wierd
fidelity has always been really REALLY fast for me
faster than Schwab, Scottrade, & Ameritrade
I'm on another stock play today "PLUG" it was a pincher about 1-2 weeks ago coming out with some good ADX reads, today is the first level big gain. I'm watching it for a peak exit point or I would devote some more time to Motorola. You should of been able to trade both motorola tickers today freely. The cash div is just going to be fractional share amount.
Done deal - cash in the bank. Sold MSI -$37.80 right away when it dropped from 38 early today.
Yay. The new MMI stock just appeared in my portfolio, a minute ago. As I said, Fidelity is "sluggish". Still no sign of the leftover fractional cash amounts, which is tiny anyway, for each stock. Someone needs to fix this "dead" chart here. Hey Trinityz, just a thought, and it would be a "first of its kind", but it would be kind of neat, if IHUB would allow a "dual-ticker" board, with two charts(MMI/MSI), and one combined chat area. There's the old MOT spirit!
rich&rich When I looked at my Schawb account this morning about 0900,they were both there. I haven't got to figuring out what I have now vs what I had or if there's any change left-over.
My experience with Schawb over the years is that they are very good with this sort of thing. However, I have had minor disputes about their charges and trade executions but nothing serious.
Well I sold out! payed off doing the trades the way I did from the record date, a very clean 10% on the take. The value hit my target of $9.45 so I cashed I'm not saying it won't go higher, it should IMO, but keeping my motions in check I had to do it. I will be back after DD and charts still money to be made with motorola this year.
My sluggish broker(Fidelity), only shows the MSI action(1 for 7) having taken place, with MSI "freely" trading under the new symbol. I don't see the MMI spinoff(1 for 8) result yet, and I'm thinking I won't see it in my account, until EOD(or possibly tomorrow). Nor do I see any sign of the fractional remainder cash, that will occur from each "action". This is nothing new for me, as Fidelity has always been "slow" in giving me things I'm entitled to, but very quick when it comes to taking "fees" from me. So it's odd to me that you say you already have both new stocks today. As far as I read in the latest news, they actually haven't done the MMI spinoff yet.
I'm giving a couple of days of DD before I make any moves just yet with motorola. I have a few other stocks to worry about that are making for good trades right now that I have to keep on top of.
cheers
Well I have the new stocks today.
The record date meant nothing like I thought. I think it was just the confusion of reporters and news media treating it like it was a normal record date (Dec 21st) and dividend pay-out, when it was not. I'm surprised that many pro brokers did not even understand. I'm guessing there would of been much more activity yesterday if everyone understood. People thinking that if they bought MOT for the first time just yesterday they would loose out on the split and dividend. The record date was just a formality that had to be done because of rules. All it accomplished is stating that the mmi shares were delivered but not executed and belong to the owner of the shares at the end of close Jan 3rd. It was almost impossible to chart Mot at the end, and be half way correct the correlation of MMI and MSI charts with MOT. Well new charts new DD starting all over.
<<Motorola officially splits into two today. Shares of MOT will cease trading. In its place will be Motorola Mobility Holdings [MMI] and Motorola Solutions [MSI].
probably need a new board for the other symbol
Just the symbol
Don't think we need the board name to change
Good point....Which new stock does he moderate? I would guess since he's a MOT man, this board will change to MSI.....
Redfisher thanks for the info,
If I only get half the up with those projections I will be more than happy.
So Trintyz1 your saying the board name will change?
well I'm thinking we'll symbol change to MSI here
since that's where folks will still be saying
You can't outrun Motorola...
still the best and most reliable in the field
=DJ Motorola's Highly Anticipated Spinoff Set To Take Place Tue
.
By Steven Russolillo
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Motorola Inc.'s (MOT) long-awaited split into two entities is set to take place formally Tuesday.
The two spinoffs will be Motorola Mobility Holdings Inc. (MMI), consisting of its consumer-focused smartphone and set-top box business, and Motorola Solutions Inc. (MSI), focusing on public safety radios and handheld scanners.
Both entities began trading on the New York Stock Exchange last month in the form of "when-issued" shares. "When-issued" trading helps investors determine the opening price for the new stocks before the official split. The market is used mainly by institutions and other sophisticated investors, and is generally less liquid than regular trading.
Motorola Mobility's "when-issued" shares dropped during their first few days of trading but have recovered of late and have soared more than 25% since they began trading on Dec. 17. Shares recently rose 4.3% at $30.34 on Monday. Meanwhile, Motorola Solutions has dropped 6.5% since mid-December and was off 0.5% Monday at $37.85.
The prices reflect the distribution of one Motorola Mobility share for every eight Motorola shares and a subsequent split of one Motorola Solutions share for every seven Motorola shares. The market capitalization for Motorola Mobility is about $9 billion, while the market capitalization for Motorola Solutions is about $12.8 billion at current market prices.
"There's no arbitrage here," said Jeffrey Fidacaro, an analyst at Susquehanna Bancshares Inc., as both are considered reverse stock splits. He also noted the "when-issued" market doesn't contain much of the speculation that surrounds initial public offerings of stock.
Motorola shares recently added 10 cents, or 1.1%, to $9.17. Motorola shares will stop trading under the "MOT" ticker symbol on Tuesday.
On Monday, Fidacaro initiated coverage of both spinoffs, giving Motorola Mobility a positive investment rating and $35 price target. He described the company as a "pure play" on Google Inc.'s (GOOG) Android operating system.
Motorola has bet heavily that its lineup of Android devices would rejuvenate its flagging mobile devices business--a move that is starting to pay off. In October, Motorola reported its third-quarter profit soared as it sped the release of new smartphones on Android's platform.
The expectation that Verizon Wireless will start selling Apple's (AAPL) iPhone in 2011 represents one of Motorola Mobility's biggest headwinds. But Fidacaro said Motorola will continue selling more smartphones through many carriers, helping to offset lost market share from Verizon Wireless, which has played a key role in the revival of Motorola's mobile devices business.
Verizon Wireless has used the Droid franchise as premier products to compete with AT&T Inc. (T) and the iPhone. But Motorola's momentum will be tested when the iPhone comes to Verizon.
"The main question is: Will the first quarter be the new floor for Mobility and can they grow from there?" Fidacaro asked.
Meanwhile, he offered a neutral rating on Motorola Solutions and a $39 price target. He said few revenue catalysts remained for the company in the short term, but positive cash flow combined with the potential to reinstate a dividend in 2012 represent longer-term catalysts.
-By Steven Russolillo, Dow Jones Newswires; 212-416-2180; steven.russolillo@dowjones.com;
Wish I had more powder.
$9.15 looks ok for a 1/4 buy. Need 9.19 again for a real good boost problem is needs some volume.
Put some numbers at 9.16 to 9.19 then here we go.
stalemate not good.
RSI slid even though PPO ADX looks very good. Not enough numbers. Next surge I hope.
Pinch 9.19 Looking good so far in the pullback.
Possible entry pt looks goood. Need 22 for continued up!
I know.. I know.. I know..
I can't make a crazy freaking call like my last one. Until $9.21 is broken we won't know and levels can't be speculated but on the other hand it will happen sooner than later.
Good morning everyone -- what a new year start
correction on my best guess.
I will put a value today at $9.32 this should be a good solid to reach.
Anything could happen. I think support and resistant levels should be raised today support
at $9.02 pivot at $9.21 resistance at $9.33. Off the top of my head with special consideration.
:)
I will put this out there.
Today Mot very good chance of hitting $9.43 its definitely possible. Trend and momentum traders taking notice. Traps should be minimal, small gaps should be overrun IMO. Friday included six HS breakouts solidly positive, with consistent deviations. Its like flipping a slightly heads weighted coin.
9.19 early trading,
Up and Up. I have to really crunch some numbers today. It would be just a guess right now.
I did not want to see this happen like this but if the volume comes watch out. Then we may see a real possibility of a pullback but it might take quite some time, this could run for a while. With small pullbacks I could see this run for a month or longer. I'm not sure I would short on this one. Motorola's is positioned itself well for beginning 2011.
I will almost agree it could happen, its a real possibility, but the markets are looking better than they ever have in the past lately.
Its a very good possibility of a short opportunity but who holds the money?. The question is that with its cash on hand you will have MMI in a new very positive looking position, cash heavy, and starting out even. MSI pretty much the same as before the split but with a new direction a fairly solid base. MSI is as good as any business by todays standard, looking to spread their network in the public /consumer markets. There is no doubt that MMI has supported the MSI part of the business in the past but lately the MSI's part of the business has a real chance in the future of making money especially with our nations home security being brought to the front and the security of business communications being so important. So I think the answer is weather or not you believe the country is heading in a positive direction or a negative direction. Where I live, things are just starting to look to the positive with new business buying back in, even though its more service related. Communications is going to be one of the most important factors to the service industry for years to come. Manufacturing jobs are gone, I don't think they will be coming back anytime soon, just look at how many products are made here in the USA anymore. I think you may have the safe answer just wait and see what happens first. I don't have much time myself and I have learned that no risk no gain but follow what I strongly believe.
There will be pull backs but i just don't see big ones soon IMO. We will have to watch international markets closely to see trading trends that will effect US markets these seem to have more effects than anything anymore.
well am sitting here thinking
just exactly WHAT? has this company done to increase the SP?
nothing
it's being split up
what was one...is split into two
so the remainder should actually lose value
but then....it's the whole share thing and equal value
less shares have to equal the same $ that was split up to begin with
and my gut says...this is not going to go well at some point
hmmmmm....could be need to watch for a shorting opportunity.....
Yes nice close, it seems there is more behind the scenes going on. Ichan is not the only big player to jump on the train it looks like some powerful big gurus are buying and holding. I read through the list of names and was very impressed but its a scary scenario. If just a couple pull the plug early a major pullback will come, even though thats ok if you catch it when it happens. The tops off the can on this one. I expect this to run a little crazy Mon but the gurus are not rich from being stupid. Its a coin toss, and I will watch the technical charts like crazy Monday. No risk no gain but greed and emotions need to be set aside for this one. The risk is less in long term IMO in this stock and the gain can be very good. I'm looking for a possible up to $9.20 plus pre split. IMO a large number of investors sitting on the sidelines waiting to make a trend trade if it looks good. I hope so because his will be the equivalent of a $11 value easy.
Well, you got your wish. Volume was even heaviest, towards the EOD. This new value must change you're math, in trying to figure out the MMI/MSI "coming event" resultant.
Fingers crossed,
There is no way to really chart this right now. IMO I do still see a positive bump coming if MOT can hit a solid 9.00 today.
Since I can't find any staticstics on OS of either new stock, I'm presuming it is some sort of "secret" anticipated reserve area, of "total shares". That's just a crazy guess, of course. I do see your point about the "profit" that may be had, on Jan 4 by MOT holders. Maybe they took a gamble that the new stocks would rise, prior to the spinoff/split date, although it could go the other way. Possibly they can "adjust" this reserve area accordingly, to take care of any changes that occur, during this short period between record date and distribution. It sounds like there will be some "disputes" afterward, like maybe by people like Icahn....
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