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Ben Franklin's illegitimate son was the Royal Governor of New Jersey during the Revolutionary War!
Bob
He is quite good!
Thnx.....I'll bring things by if they fit. I should stop by more often....maybe that military shit rubs off, lol.
Great post ----- funny and informative.
LITTLE KNOWN TIDBIT OF NAVAL HISTORY...
The U. S. S.. Constitution (Old Ironsides), as a combat vessel, carried 48,600 gallons of fresh water for her crew of 475 officers and men. This was sufficient to last six months of sustained operations at sea. She carried no evaporators (i.e. fresh water distillers).
However, let it be noted that according to her ship's log, "On July 27, 1798, the U.S.S. Constitution sailed from Boston with a full complement of 475 officers and men, 48,600 gallons of fresh water, 7,400 cannon shot, 11,600 pounds of black powder and 79,400 gallons of rum."
Her mission: "To destroy and harass English shipping."
Making Jamaica on 6 October, she took on 826 pounds of flour and 68,300 gallons of rum.
Then she headed for the Azores , arriving there 12 November.. She provisioned with 550 pounds of beef and 64,300 gallons of Portuguese wine.
On 18 November, she set sail for England . In the ensuing days she defeated five British men-of-war and captured and scuttled 12 English merchant ships, salvaging only the rum aboard each.
By 26 January, her powder and shot were exhausted. Nevertheless, although unarmed she made a night raid up the Firth of Clyde in Scotland . Her landing party captured a whisky distillery and transferred 40,000 gallons of single malt Scotch aboard by dawn. Then she headed home.
The U. S. S. Constitution arrived in Boston on 20 February 1799, with no cannon shot, no food, no powder, no rum, no wine, no whisky, and 38,600 gallons of water.
GO NAVY!
WTF......you can't post here? It's a friendly board!
Apparently, he wanted to kill someone...He did not mean it...
It was just a phrase of speech...
Shermann
What did he post?
And I thought forgiveness was in the air this time of year...
Shermann
Yoou have been a Bad BOY!
Yes Sir...... That sums it up!
And to yor sir, heartfelt thanks for your service and sacrifices. I still consider re-enisting in the Army the best ting I ever did, and would do it all again if the occasion arose. Might do some things a bit differently, but would definitiely stay in.
Honestly, there aren't a lot of other jobs one can frequently look back on at the end of the day and say "Yep, I truly accomplshed something today".
Thank you for your service and tip the hat to your fallen comrades!
Thank you for your families service!
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
Sorry Ass Marines can't answer these questions.
What's the name of the English Bulldog at PI?
What battle did a Marine say......Retreat He'll we just got here!
Who was the " Grand old man " of the USMC?
Trivia.....Can anybody tell the place the Marine Corp was born?
HAPPY BIRTHDAY USMC........ JARHEAD POSTS WELCOME HERE. OOOOOHRAAAAAAAA,
Pound for pound the best tank ever....
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This article is about the Soviet medium tank. For other uses, see T34 (disambiguation).
T-34
T-34-85 at Musée des Blindés
Type Medium tank
Place of origin Soviet Union
Service history
In service 1940–present
Used by Soviet Union and 39 others
Wars World War II and many others
Production history
Designer T-34 Main Design Bureau – KMDB
Designed 1937–1940
Produced 1940–1958
Number built 84,070
Specifications (T-34 Model 1941[3])
Weight 26.5 tonnes (29.2 short tons; 26.1 long tons)
Length 6.68 m (21 ft 11 in)
Width 3.00 m (9 ft 10 in)
Height 2.45 m (8 ft 0 in)
Crew 4
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Armor [1] hull front 47 mm /60° (upper part),
hull front 45 mm (1.8")/60° (lower part),
hull side 40 mm[2]/41°(upper part),
hull rear 45 mm,
hull top 20 mm,
hull bottom 15 mm;
turret front 60 mm (2.4"),
turret side 52 mm/30°,
turret rear 30 mm,
turret top 16 mm
Main
armament 76.2 mm (3.00 in) F-34 tank gun
(T-34/85: 85mm gun)
Secondary
armament 2 × 7.62 mm (0.308 in) DT machine guns
Engine 12-cyl. diesel model V-2
500 hp (370 kW)
Power/weight 17.5 hp/tonne
Suspension Christie
Operational
range 400 km (250 mi)
Speed 53 km/h (33 mph)
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The T-34 was a Soviet medium tank produced from 1940 to 1958. Although its armour and armament were surpassed by later tanks of the era, it has been often credited as the most effective, efficient and influential design of World War II.[4] First produced at the KhPZ factory in Kharkov (Kharkiv, Ukraine), it was the mainstay of Soviet armoured forces throughout World War II, and widely exported afterwards. It was the most-produced tank of the war, and the second most-produced tank of all time, after its successor, the T-54/55 series.[5] In 1996, T-34 variants were still in service in at least 27 countries.
The T-34 was developed from the BT series of fast tanks and was intended to replace both the BT-5 and BT-7 tanks and the T-26 infantry tank in service.[6] At its introduction, it was the tank with the best balanced attributes of firepower, mobility, protection and ruggedness, although initially its battlefield effectiveness suffered from the unsatisfactory ergonomic layout of its crew compartment, scarcity of radios, and poor tactical employment. The two-man turret-crew arrangement required the commander to aim and fire the gun, an arrangement common to most Soviet tanks of the day; this proved to be inferior to three-man (commander, gunner, and loader) turret crews of German Panzer III and Panzer IV tanks.
The design and construction of the tank were continuously refined during the war to enhance effectiveness and decrease costs, allowing steadily greater numbers of T-34s to be fielded. In early 1944, the improved T-34-85 was introduced, with a more powerful 85 mm gun and a three-man turret design. By the war's end in 1945, the versatile and cost-effective T-34 had replaced many light and heavy tanks in service, and accounted for the majority of Soviet tank production. Its evolutionary development led directly to the T-54/55 series of tanks, built until 1981 and still operational as of 2010[update] and which itself led to the T-62, T-72 and T-90 tanks which, along with several Chinese tanks based on the T-55, form the backbone of many of the world's armies even today.
The T-34 was among the most important weapons fielded by the Red Army in World War II. At the time it was first fielded in 1940, commentators considered it one of the finest tank designs in the world.[7][8] By mid-war, the T-34 no longer
Yeah, I know ... but hey, since I already have it, along with plenty of ammo, and doubt seriously I'll find one of those British muskets at any of the local gun shows ... well, I'll just settle for second best!
Thanks for the info, but I'll keep my DPMS 7.62X51 LR308.
Most influential weapon ever ... From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
British Land Pattern Musket
a.k.a. Brown Bess
A Short Land Pattern Musket
Type Musket
Place of origin Great Britain
Service history
In service British Army 1722-1838
Used by British Empire, USA, Mexico, Various Native American tribes, Zulu warriors
Wars Napoleonic Wars, War of 1812, American Revolutionary War, Indian Wars, Texas Revolution, Seven Years' War, Anglo-Zulu War (Limited)
Production history
Designed 1722
Produced 1722–1860s (all variants)
Variants Long Land Pattern, Short Land Pattern, Sea Service Pattern, India Pattern, New Land Pattern, New Light Infantry Land Pattern Cavalry Carbine
Specifications
Weight 10.5 pounds (4.8 kg)
Length 58.5 inches (149 cm)
Barrel length 42 inches (110 cm)
Cartridge 0.71 inches (18 mm) musket ball, undersized to reduce the effects of powder fouling.
Action Flintlock
Rate of fire User dependent; usually 3 to 4 rounds a minute
Muzzle velocity Variable
Effective range Variable (50-100 yards)
Feed system Muzzle-loaded
Brown Bess is a nickname of uncertain origin for the British Army's Land Pattern Musket and its derivatives. This musket was used in the era of the expansion of the British Empire and acquired symbolic importance at least as significant as its physical importance. It was in use for over a hundred years with many incremental changes in its design. These versions include the Long Land Pattern, Short Land Pattern, India Pattern, New Land Pattern Musket, Sea Service Musket and others.
The Long Land Pattern musket and its derivatives, all .75 caliber flintlock muskets, were the standard long guns of the British Empire's land forces from 1722 until 1838 when they were superseded by a percussion cap smoothbore musket. The British Ordnance System converted many flintlocks into the new percussion system known as the Pattern 1839 Musket. A fire in 1841 at the Tower of London destroyed many muskets before they could be converted. Still, the Brown Bess saw service until the middle of the nineteenth century. Some were used by Maori warriors during the Musket Wars 1820s-1830s, having purchased them from European traders at the time, some were still in service during the Indian rebellion of 1857, and also by Zulu warriors, who had also purchased them from European traders during the Anglo-Zulu War in 1879, and some were sold to the Mexican Army who used them during the Texas Revolution of 1836 and the Mexican-American War of 1846 to 1848. One was even used in the Battle of Shiloh in 1862.[1]
Most male citizens of the American Colonies were required by law to own arms and ammunition for militia duty.[2] The Long Land Pattern was a common firearm in use by both sides in the American Revolutionary War.[3]
Contents [hide]
1 Origins of the name
2 The Land Pattern Muskets
2.1 Field tests
2.2 Variations
2.2.1 Long Land Pattern
2.2.2 Short Land Pattern
2.2.3 India Pattern
2.2.4 New Land Pattern
2.2.5 New Light Infantry Land Pattern
2.2.6 Cavalry Carbine
2.2.7 Sea Service Pattern
3 See also
4 Notes
5 Other references
6 External links
[edit]Origins of the name
One hypothesis is that the "Brown Bess" was named after Elizabeth I of England, but this lacks support. It is not believed that this name was used contemporaneously with the early Long Pattern Land musket but that the name arose in late years of the 18th century when the Short Pattern and India Pattern were in wide use.
Early uses of the term include the newspaper, the Connecticut Courant in April 1771, which said "...but if you are afraid of the sea, take Brown Bess on your shoulder and march.". This familiar use indicates widespread use of the term by that time. The 1785 Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue, a contemporary work which defined vernacular and slang terms, contained this entry: "Brown Bess: A soldier's firelock. To hug Brown Bess; to carry a fire-lock, or serve as a private soldier." Military and government records of the time do not use this poetical name but refer to firelocks, flintlock, muskets or by the weapon's model designations.
Soldiers of the Black Watch armed with a musket (Brown Bess) and a halberd (Brown Bill), c. 1790.
Popular explanations of the use of the word "Brown" include that it was a reference to either the colour of the walnut stocks, or to the characteristic brown color that was produced by russeting, an early form of metal treatment. Others argue that mass-produced weapons of the time were coated in brown varnish on metal parts as a rust preventative and on wood as a sealer (or in the case of unscrupulous contractors, to disguise inferior or non-regulation types of wood). However, the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) notes that "browning" was only introduced in the early 19th century, well after the term had come into general use.
Similarly, the word "Bess" is commonly held to either derive from the word arquebus or blunderbuss (predecessors of the musket) or to be a reference to Elizabeth I, possibly given to commemorate her death. More plausible is that the term Brown Bess derived from the German words "brawn buss" or "braun buss", meaning "strong gun" or "brown gun"; King George I who commissioned its use was from Germany. The OED has citations for "brown musket" dating back to the early 18th century which refer to the same weapon. Another suggestion is that the name is simply the counterpart to the earlier Brown Bill.
“ In the days of lace-ruffles, perukes, and brocade
Brown Bess was a partner whom none could despise -
An out-spoken, flinty-lipped, brazen-faced jade,
With a habit of looking men straight in the eyes -
At Blenheim and Ramillies, fops would confess
They were pierced to the heart by the charms of Brown Bess. ”
—Rudyard Kipling, "Brown Bess," 1911
[edit]The Land Pattern Muskets
The Long Land Pattern "Brown Bess" musket was the British infantryman's basic arm from about 1740 until the 1830s.
From the 17th to the early years of the 18th century, most nations did not specify standards for military firearms. Firearms were individually procured by officers or regiments as late as the 1740s, and were often custom made to the tastes of the purchaser. As the firearm gained ascendancy on the battlefield, this lack of standardization led to increasing difficulties in the supply of ammunition and repair materials. To address these difficulties, armies began to adopt standardized "patterns". A military service selected a "pattern musket" to be stored in a "pattern room", There it served as a reference for arms makers, who could make comparisons and take measurements to ensure that their products matched the standard.
Stress-bearing parts of the Brown Bess, such as the barrel, lockwork, and sling-swivels, were customarily made of iron, while other furniture pieces such as the butt plate, trigger guard and ramrod pipe were found in both iron and brass. It weighed around 10 pounds (4.5 kg) and it could be fitted with a 17 inches (430 mm) triangular cross-section bayonet. The weapon had no sights, although the bayonet lug on the barrel may have been used in that manner, similar to the bead on a shotgun.
The earliest models had iron fittings but these were replaced by brass in models built after 1736. Wooden ramrods were used with the first guns but were replaced by iron ones, although guns with wooden ramrods were still issued to troops on American service until 1765 and later to loyalist units in the American Revolution. Wooden ramrods were also used in the Dragoon version produced from 1744 to 1771 and for Navy and Marine use.
Accuracy of the Brown Bess was fair, as with most other muskets. The effective range is often quoted as 175 yards (160 m), but the Brown Bess was often fired en masse at 50 yards (46 m) to inflict the greatest damage upon the enemy. The combination of large calibre of the projectile and the heavy weight of its iron construction contributed to its low effective range. Military tactics of the period stressed mass volleys and massed bayonet charges, instead of individual marksmanship. The large soft projectile could inflict a great deal of damage when it hit and the great length of the weapon allowed longer reach in bayonet engagements.
Of all of the versions, the India pattern was supposed to be the most accurate with a range of 175 yards and 75 to 95 percent accuracy which at the most would be about 4 inches (10 cm) of aim. As used by the British regiments of the Napoleonic Era, the weapons were quite reliable. As it took about 43 seconds to fire three shots, it became useful for both hunting and battle. The weapon also had a thicker barrel than most contemporary firearms which reduced[citation needed] its chances of blowing up due to powder overload.
[edit]Field tests
Field tests of smoothbore muskets in the late 18th and early 19th centuries reported widely reliable expectations of accuracy and speed of fire. Estimations of rate of fire ranged from "one shot every fifteen seconds" (4 shots per minute) with highly trained troops, to "two to two and a half shots per minute" (one shot every 24 seconds) for inexperienced recruits.
The standard military loading procedure from prepared paper cartridges containing ball and gun powder in an elongated envelope is:
Tear cartridge with teeth and prime the pan directly from the cartridge;
Stand the musket and pour the bulk of the powder down the barrel;
Reverse the cartridge and use the ramrod to seat the ball and paper envelop onto the powder charge.
Standard European targets included strips of cloth 50 yards long to represent an opposing line of infantry, with the target height being six feet for infantry and eight feet, three inches for cavalry. Estimations of hit probability at 175 yards could be as high as 75% in volley fire. This however was without allowances for the gaps between the soldiers in an opposing line, for overly tall targets or the confusing and distracting realities of the battlefield. Modern testers shooting from rigid rests, using optimum loads and fast priming powder, report groups of circa five inches at 50 yards (Cumpston 2008).
[edit]Variations
Many variations and modifications of the standard pattern musket were created over its long history. The earliest version was the Long Land Pattern of 1722, a 62-inch (160 cm) long (without bayonet) and with a 46-inch (120 cm) barrel. It was later found that shortening the barrel did not detract from its accuracy but made handling the musket easier. This resulted in the Militia (or Marine) Pattern of 1756 and the Short Land Pattern of 1768, which both had a 42-inch (110 cm) barrel. Another version with a 39-inch (99 cm) barrel was first manufactured for the British East India Company, and was eventually adopted by the British Army in 1790 as the India Pattern.
Towards the end of the life of the weapon, there was a change in the system of ignition. The flintlock mechanism, which was prone to misfiring, especially in wet weather, was replaced by the more reliable percussion cap. The last flintlock pattern manufactured was selected for conversion to the new system as the Pattern 1839. A fire at the Tower of London destroyed large stocks of these in 1841, so a new Pattern 1842 musket was manufactured. These remained in service until the outbreak of the Crimean War when they were replaced by the Minie and the P53 Enfield rifled musket.
[edit]Long Land Pattern
Long Land Pattern.
In Service; 1722–1793, standard Infantry Musket 1722-1768 (supplemented by Short Land Pattern from 1768).
Barrel length; 46-inch (120 cm)
Overall length; 62.5-inch (159 cm)
Weight; 10.4 pounds (4.7 kg)
[edit]Short Land Pattern
Short Land Pattern.
In service; 1740–1797; 1740 (Dragoons), 1768 (Infantry); standard Infantry Musket 1793-1797.
Barrel length; 42-inch (110 cm)
Overall length; 58.5-inch (149 cm)
Weight; 10.5 pounds (4.8 kg)
[edit]India Pattern
India Pattern 3rd Model
In service; 1797–1854; standard Infantry Musket 1797-1854. (Some in use pre-1797 purchased from the East India Company for use in Egypt).
Barrel length; 39-inch (99 cm)
Overall length; 55.25-inch (140.3 cm)
Weight; 9.68 pounds (4.39 kg)
[edit]New Land Pattern
New Land Pattern
In service; 1802–1854; Issued only to the Foot Guards and 4th Regiment of Foot.
Barrel length; 39-inch (99 cm)
Overall length; 55.5-inch (141 cm)
Weight; 10.06 pounds (4.56 kg)
[edit]New Light Infantry Land Pattern
In service; 1811–1854; Issued only to the 43rd, 52nd, 68th, 71st and 85th Light Infantry and the Battalions of the 60th Foot not armed with rifles.
Barrel length; 39-inch (99 cm)
Overall length; 55.5-inch (141 cm)
Weight; 10.06 pounds (4.56 kg)
The detail differences between this musket and the standard New Land Pattern were a scrolled trigger guard similar to that of the Baker Rifle except more rounded, a browned barrel and a notch back-sight, the bayonet lug being used as the fore-sight.
[edit]Cavalry Carbine
Brown Bess carbine
In service; 1796–1838; Issued to British cavalry units.
Barrel length; 26-inch (66 cm)
Overall length; 42.5-inch (108 cm)
Weight; 7.37 pounds (3.34 kg)
[edit]Sea Service Pattern
Sea Service Pattern.
In service; 1778–1854; Issued to Royal Navy ships, drawn by men as required, Marines used Sea Service weapons when deployed as part of a ship's company but were issued India Pattern weapons when serving ashore.
Barrel length; 37-inch (94 cm)
Overall length; 53.5-inch (136 cm)
Weight; 9.01 pounds (4.09 kg)
[edit]See also
Wikisource has the text of the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica article Brown Bess.
British military rifles
Charleville musket
[edit]Notes
^ Brown, Dee Alexander. The Bold Cavaliers. (1959) p. 50.
^ Linder, Doug (2008). "United States vs. Miller (U.S. 1939)". Exploring Constitutional Law. University of Missouri-Kansas City Law School. Retrieved 2008-07-26.
^ Neumann, George. "The Redcoats' Brown Bess," American Rifleman, posted 2009.
[edit]Other references
Cumpston, Mike. "The Guns of Empire: 18th Century Martial Muskets" Guns Magazine, August 2008, p60. FMG Publications, San Diego, CA
Reid, Stuart. British Redcoat (2) 1793-1815 Warrior Series, Osprey Publishing
[edit]External links
Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Brown Bess
Brown Bess replica by Davide Pedersoli
Entire text of Kipling's poem "Brown Bess"
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There is nothing like Mediveal Warfare.... It is carnage on end!
You should really write all this down in a book!
Yea, no that was my Dad's story. I wasn't in the service, I'm just an IT guy.
He was a gunner on a swiftboat in Vietnam.
Anyway, have a great weekend!
Lol Thanks for your service ... do you mind? What did you do?
Here's another tidbit of family history.
This from my Dad.
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Half of my neighbors' parents worked at Willow Run during dubya dubya two. My mom worked at the Daisy Air Rifle Company in Plymouth, Michigan. But they didn't make air rifles anymore. They made .50 caliber machine guns. And that's what my machine guns that I used and cleaned daily in Vietnam had stamped on the chassis -
"Daisy Air Rifle Manufacturing Company, Plymouth Michigan"
When I told my mom that she got very upset.
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All good. I've moved away from it a bit similar to sinfaux.
Sports and Music for our kids, and comparative religions @ school.
Oh my God....... That is priceless.... I am not Jewish just wanted to be!
Haha! Yep. My wife and I joke about when we have kids.
Jewish & Catholic = Cashews...you know...a little nutty.
That's one Fucked up sleigh! Lol!
Yep! A product of a true melting pot we call the USA.
My dad isn't jewish though. He used to dress up as Santa. My mom is hardcore since the divorce. Call me a half breed. Super Jew & Santa. LOL
You are Jewish too and your family fought in the Revolutionary War! Wow there is a story to be told. Mark added. Shanah Tovah!
Hi friend! Saw the posts with sinfaux regarding services. LMAO
I skipped rosh hashanah myself. Went to yom kippur though, mostly for my mother. Certainly not for my catholic wife!
Yeah it's cool...... Geese your family fought at the beginning...... Cool. Plus Side you and your called wretched by a guy who ran like a bitch...... Now that's Fucking Cool.
Ringer? I doubt it.
I don't know a lot about this stuff. Just thought it would be nice to share.
My cousin is really into genealogy and has a site that traces the Rue family all the way back to France before the revolution.
I just always thought it was cool that we fought for our independence.
I didn't see your add on.... Yeah a motley crew..... All the good sailors were Privateering.
Whoa....... Ok get my bearings. Revolutionary War.... Horatio Gates...... Southern Campaighn?
Holy shit I thing you are a ringer!
a wretched motley crew
Philadelphia carried three carriage guns, one 12-pounder, and two 9-pounders, and eight swivel guns. She had a single mast with a square-rigged mainsail and topsail. Her crew of 44 was captained by 25-year-old Benjamin Rue, from Pennsylvania.
That's my great great great (not sure how many greats) grandfather!
With little experience in boat handling and none in naval combat, Rue's men typified the troops described to Major General Horatio Gates, as "a wretched motley crew".
http://www.lcmm.org/our_fleet/philadelphia.htm
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