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Valid point if what you suspect is true.Props to you meathead,but I am still a TRUE BELiever.HOW many shares are you currently holding.TIA.GLTY...ST
What was the quote about not being some $.25 stock? That was when we thought strong promotion and awareness was pending. Welder, at this point, forget the certificate we need a plague with your profile hanging in the HQ's and on main display in the Plant.
were you the one that Rainer sent the email to saying shareholders would be very happy with last weeks news?
Very plausible scenario.Mine is different,but as you stated one of many possible positive explanation.
I BELIEVE in MGT.
I do not think Rainer or Chuck have ever lied to us.
This does not mean I am in any way happy with the PPS or the O/S.
Rainer told me "You haven't lost any money if you do not sell"
GLTA(except shorters0...ST
you've got to love this tweet from Rainer..
"currently no discussion at MWW Board for RS"
this is absolutely hysterical.. the day they raised the A/S to 6 BILLION he tweets.. oh but hey, there are NO CURRENT discussions for RS.. did anyone really expect him to say before they've had the chance to dump another 5.15 billion shares on you that they were considering a Reverse Split?
seriously folks, you really can't make this stuff up..
MWWC
What did the company do in revs for last year or just in a month? Trying to get a grip here... Are some zeros missing ? thanx
Yay Rainer!MWWc mWWC MWWC.True Beliver.I support MGT!...ST
Look at the 10Q
My guess is that the loan sharks are much better suited to this game than MWWC management.
At May 1, 2012, the Company had 398,350,037 shares issued and outstanding and 552,600,000 shares reserved for possible future issuances to Asher Enterprises Inc. Moreover, at May 1, 2012, the Company has outstanding debt to seven Investors with conversion terms that (based upon May 1, 2012 closing price) might require the future issuance of 718,306,250 or more shares of common stock.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=8632092
Thank you for taking the time to share your perspective. My sense in dealing with the company and researching backgrounds of management is that they're extremely bright and experienced in their industry. For their employees and investors here I am hopeful they will succeed. It's shameful what some here have said about them. Completely unfair, in my opinion. Again, thanks much for providing a different take here. Your speculation is just as valid as everyone else's.
God I was wrong once again. Rainer is the man
Interesting scenario....
I agree with everything you say here. Everything.
They had plenty of "political capital" for encouraging long-term investment, and it has all been flushed down the toilet with poor financing decisions and blatant exaggeration on expected revenues and new sources of revenue.
Great post! The board is useless now anyway, so let these people contour with their non sense. Them wasting time is more pathetic than the stock price right now. A complete joke.
Has anybody on this board ever tried to raise business capital? So many people are bitching about the delays and the complications associated with the daily operations of this company. First of, the operations of the business and the structure of the stock are two completely different issues. The Business is concerned with producing products; the stock structure is the means by which to achieve that. Just because the stock is looking less-than-appealing, that doesn't mean the company is a scam. It also doesn't mean that the newsletter that updates info about the stock/company is a scam. You people must believe that the business world is run on a concoction of Pixie dust, magic wands, happy thoughts, and Genies who grant wishes. Disney isn't real-life. Everything costs money; some cost more, some cost less, and some cost a serious ass-of-cash. Nothing is free.
If you're one of those complaining about the lack of promotion, PLEASE make some calls to some of the top advertising agencies and get an idea of the cost that you are wanting the company to take on. While you're doing that, keep in mind how much you've complained about the dilution. How much dilution would be created by that kind of spending right now??? Stock Watch Index may not be a top-tier ad agency, but it's a start. If you're expecting The Aegis Group to come in here and do promotions, expect A LOT MORE than 2,000,000 shares to be spent! In fact, expect NOTHING, because I don't think they barter for OTC shares.
Because of the overburdonsome regulatory atmosphere, this company ( as are many, MANY others) is seriously limited on it's means of raising working/expansion capital. It's followed the only avenue available. (I don't like it either; ASSher pisses me off!!) If you don't believe me, go out and try to get a traditional loan for start-up capital. If you think it's so easy and simple, TRY IT!!! I have; I know what I'm talking about. Also do some actual research beyond a message board. Look for straight-forward information on Reg D, Rule 144, Accredited Investor, SEC Compliance, Angel Capital, etc, etc. Find out for yourself how difficult the business environment is before you start calling people crooks and scammers.
I'm disgusted at the pre-school type playpen that this board has turned into. For crying out loud, one of the Stickies is an opinion-based post about another poster running a scam! That stickie is just above another stickie (from the same poster(and a MOD as well!)) that says to keep posts about stock related issues and not personal attacks.
There are several Asher notes. Read the 10-Q carefully.
Asher are much smarter than MWWC management, they have plenty of capital, they're not under time pressure to cash anything in and they have a history of success.
MWWC management are a bunch of pumpers that have a history of dumping on their shareholders, the company is losing money daily, there's a mountain of debt and all assets are 100% encumbered.
Asher has pretty much all the cards.
Buy if you want to. Not my problem. I just feel the loan shark's have a much better idea of how to play this game than MWWC management.
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the Company has secured cash for operations under several Securities Purchase Agreements and Convertible Promissory Notes entered between the Company and Asher Enterprises Inc. that require the Company to reserve shares of common stock for future issuance. On April 17, 2012, the Company received funding of $47,500 from Asher Enterprises Inc. and was required to reserve 410,000,000 shares of common stock for future issuance under the conversion features of the Convertible Promissory Note. Moreover, the Company had 142,600,000 shares of common stock reserved pursuant three prior convertible promissory notes in favor of Asher Enterprises Inc. dated October 7, 2011, December 6, 2011, and February 1, 2012, respectively. Even though as of May 1, 2012, the total debt due in favor of Asher Enterprises Inc. is $183,000, the Company is required to reserve 552,600,000 shares of common stock (with approximate value, based upon May 1, 2012 closing price of $.0016, being $884,160) to honor the Company’s covenants under the Securities Purchase Agreements and Convertible Promissory Notes.
At May 1, 2012, the Company had 398,350,037 shares issued and outstanding and 552,600,000 shares reserved for possible future issuances to Asher Enterprises Inc. Moreover, at May 1, 2012, the Company has outstanding debt to seven Investors with conversion terms that (based upon May 1, 2012 closing price) might require the future issuance of 718,306,250 or more shares of common stock.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=8632092
I thought he already converted to shares?? It says he owns 31 million?
Yeah, but if he's shorting while selling, he's making money coming and going, so to speak.
And sometimes when you see a flock of ducks flying in the distance upon closer examination you discover it was actually a gaggle of geese. I've learned to be more cautious about these things. If you don't know for sure, best not to say it!
Agreed
Thinking the same.
If he is dumping 10+million a day than when will he @run out of shares? He will have to run out at some point.
Two things to bear in mind on why Asher would want to convert at $0.0001 instead of say $0.0010:
-- A 1-tick move from $0.0001 to $0.0002 results in 100% gain ($47,500 for every $0.0001 move up). The same 1-tick move from $0.0010 to $0.0011 results in a 10% gain ($4,750 for every $0.0001 move up).
-- If Asher shorts from $0.0010 to $0.0001 there's a lot of additional realized profit that can be cashed in at the bottom.
My vote is firmly with the professionals - Asher: $0.0001 by November 2012.
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck its a duck.
When someone uses the term scam it implies dishonest or unscrupulous behavior. The posters saying this have accused the creators of stockwatchindex.com of trading shares the company compensated them with but the website says specifically the shares were restricted. The only information on the website or in the newsletter called into question was a change in outstanding shares. The poster involved with the website said he had no knowledge of the change before the public did. It's entirely possible he didn't. You can call me naive if you like. It's very difficult for me to accept someone's opinion when assumptions are made which may not be accurate.
Paid promoters and management don't fall under the same rules. Read the iHub TOU.
It doesn't matter to Asher. They're looking to be repaid their $47,500 k @ 8% by November 2, 2012.
The debt is convertible into MWWC common stock at any time at the holder’s option, at the conversion rate of 51% of the lowest three trading days 10 days prior to notice of conversion.
If MWWC is turning a profit, they can pay off the note, if not Asher dilutes with a base of $0.0001.
Yayyyyyyy, an intelligent, insightful comment. Any one taking notes from class today?
My logic is to follow the big money and not listen to posters who waste their time posting about such a "terrible" stock. The Aussie and Kletter's actions speak louder than some posters and their brilliant analysis.
Isnt it in Ashers best interest to sell at higher prices? Wont he make more money?
By your logic, MWWC should trade permanently at $0.0001 to there's no volatility.
That time will come.
What most people dont realize is that it doesnt have to be criminal to be a scam.
It will close at .001 or lower no interest here
Mods...if one poster's accusing something of being a scam can be stickied, I would like this poster's opinion that it is not a scam stickied, to. It's only fair!
Stock watch is NOT a SCAM..period! IMO
A take over? Maybe....Let's backtrack the possibility.
Let's say a deep pocket company may be looking for a supplier to make their small, shippable parts that require a unique construction method or short runs for large priced, but limited number if end units. Like the hood and fenders of a tractor that sells for 50 to 100k per unit. Each year you may want to tweak the shape of these cosmetic features while your tractor remains otherwise unchanged. So building this cosmetic factory in-house isn't practical.
You find a good facility with a good plant manager and high quality specialized work force with in house design capabilities. Let's use mwwc facility in Michigan as an example.
You see the company is in financial trouble due to the economy, but you recognize the diamond in the rough. Aquiring this co would allow you to get good parts at a good price and you will be able to turn a profit selling to others especially companies in other markets than yours, such as auto.
You start negotiating contracts with the small company, but delay the contract time after time. Forcing them to turn down other work in anticipation of the big contract. Painting mwwc into a corner and driving the pps down to a point where you could easily come in and take it over.
Mwwc mgmt is no dummy. They can make good money by staying independent and taking on other work as well as the big tractor maker. So they dont want to lose mwwc.
After 2 or 3 stalls on the contract, they figure out what the big guy is doing so it creates some supervoting shares to allow them to maintain control of mwwc even if they are no longer the majority shareholders.. However mwwc still wants the big contract so they aren't going to bash the big guy or drive away the business. This was just a subtle block to send the big guy the message that they are not dealing with amatures.
Mwwc mgmt was forced to take some questionable financing to stay afloat and wait for the big guy to give in.
Meanwhile we are approaching a new model year and the big guy has to either go with mwwc or find somebody new really quick, or forego a cosmetic change this cycle.
Mwwc isn't going to completly retool until they get a contract so they are limping along with some smaller orders trying to keep their doors open and employees working.
So it is a game of financial chicken and mwwc mgmt is standing up to the bully's and trying to keep their company.
Mwwc has to file 10q and investors abandon further hurting the company. Who is going to cry uncle first?
That is the kind of thing I would expect from mwwc mgmt after following them the last couple of years, so maybe alot of us (myself included) should not be so quick to bash the mgmt . As it is so often mentioned there is no gag order but not much is said either. It all fits.
Of course this is pure speculation, but at least I can backtrack motives that are in the company's best interests that don't sacrifice the investors.
This just one of a million scenarios and pure fantasy, but maybe plausible.
Uh, No. He said Howell. Howell. HQs not Baroda where the Plant is located. There is nothing "to look for." If he can make it to Baroda later than sure. In the mean time he needs to know who "to talk to" as he will be in Howell. Best thing there will be framed pictures and certificates.
So many people with different,agendas some want quick cash so they dont bother who gets hurt,so what is the health of the company,created confusion.
How to sift through misinformation.
May be just go back to basics why people bought in the first place
product,and its need.
No doubt company concentrating more power to itself,would they gain more by succeeding or by doing underhand things.
Even more work is adding to financial needs of the company,because of expenses and they getting money back in 90 days.
So just make up your minds.
There may not be an immediate gain.
Are you willing to stick around,this current assault may not have a long life,if so they will soon be looking for the exit door.
Only time will tell.And hope we made a right decision.
Risk/reward.
Sure, thing. Yes I know it is just a cluster now. Feel free to email rpoertner@mwwautomotive.com just to confirm. I would encourage everyone else to do the same.
You'd need to look for signs of industrial activity and confirmation of numbers of workers. Try to take photos, because you probably won't remember everything you see in detail. In addition talk to the managers and workers at all levels.
Examples would be number of wooden pallets with the names of know customers stamped on them, volume of trash in the dumpster, number of workstations (how many have personal effects next to them, how many are idle), number of cars in the parking lot at the beginning and ends of shifts, volume of supplies in the storage area. People go out for lunch, so speak with the local convenience store owner to see if you can get a third party opinion, etc.
Those are things that are hard to fake. For example, if there's limited production on a sustained basis, then you won't see many supplies in the storage area. That would be confirmed by limited cars in the parking lot and a limited number of used workstations.
Read the 10-Q before you go. Basic idea is you want to verify visually with secondary confirmations what management is telling you on paper.
MWWC, only if you sell low
Thanks for that answer.
It's hard these days to find good information on this board.
at this point not really??
Ya paid for by Asher
it is sad that true investors get screwed.
Too bad they didn't do that BEFORE they raised the AS to an ungodly amount and destroyed the PPS. Too late for promo now IMO. The best it would do is bring in a few more flippers for a short term bump. No one in their right mind would touch this thing for a long term hold now.
They have screwed up royally. I don't care for their recent responses either. They have become pretty defensive, and I find it laughable how they try to defend some of their recent actions. I was planning on just holding my shares to the very end, but I may just dump them out of spite. Hand them over to a flipper.
You should definitely go if you live within driving distance of the plant.
Do you know what to look for?
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thanks bud, just got mixed feeling right now.
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