Lighting Science Group Corp. (LSCG)

[NYC_JimBob]

#RollerCoaster

[Gonzgap]

Glad you see what i'm seeing....Im in at price i like and adding...it wont be long now. All the unknowns are only potentially awesome. They've done a great job launching Healthe as a brand in a short time....it is the most professional and contemporary imaging they've ever done....the difference between the lscg website and the healthe site is night and day.

Note on Cares Act...orders only need to be placed before 12/31 for Cares Act eligibility. When i inquired about purchasing a wand pro the response from them was "wand pros are 12500.00 and will deliver in q1. How many do you need?". Being in sales for a long time,that lazy ass response tells me they arent selling...they are taking orders. I'd encourage you all to call some of the online retailers selling Healthe products...that is an insightful convo. Merry Christmas and a VERY Happy New Year!

[CED Brian]

Thank you for posting this. I had 45,000 shares that I bought at 20 cents and sold at 59 cents, which in hindsight was the right thing to do, but because of your post which makes perfect sense I just bought more shares when the market opened at 12 cents. You nailed it, and I want to thank you for sharing it. I believe they're going to fix their listing issue and this stock will quickly be a five-bagger when they do.

[MAJ-999]

Would assume so. TD Ameritrade and Schwab did merge... take a peek and google it

[wwind]

thanx for the update...do you think Schwab will do the same thing re: caveat emptor? I'm with TD Ameritrade and a relative newby in the markets. Didnt get in till March 2020 so I'm still learning. I bought LSCG at 3c so I guess I'll sit tight for a while. I'm still up...

[Gonzgap]

This is getting collected professionally before during and after hours which only makes me think this is better than i could have ever imagined.. Either the equity firm that owns half, or the company is doing the investors dirty and conducting a non public buyback on their own....a case can be made for the latter since they dont share shit...also, there is a shark in the water and his billionaire boss....this isnt their first rodeo. The downward bid pressure has been incessant and coordinated. Half million volume today? Why? Because people are getting caveat emptor trading stops. The caveat emptor helps them as investors on certain trading platforms cant buy..can only sell and selling is what they want....today was the most transparent...bids .2 to .4 below ask at a .14-.17 price? Cmon man....it doesnt work like that....it moves in hundreths and tenths of a cent....they are on both sides and they are trying to clear you out.i set up a new acct and transferred to keep playing...schwab for me.

The dolphins installed 44 air troughers and 20 somwthing space lights....air teougher 2250.00 each online right now....can light 1250 to 1750 each....thata. 120k min on a locker room..restaurants buy one they get on the news...boll and branch buys a gate and some lights and gets on Jim Cramer...gates start at 12,500.

THEY CUT A LICENSING DEAL WITH BOEING AND THE WAND PRO IS ONE OF FIVE TACTICS IN BOEINGs NEW CLEAN FLYING PROTOCOL/PROMISE. seriously....boeing is in bed with LSCG on a licensing deal...boeing financially vets vendors repeatedly. Boeing enagaging in a deal with them is the ultimate endorsement. 12500.00 for the wand pro....how many airlines does boeing work qith again? Oh yeah....all of them.


Hang tight my friends....get on a platform that lets you buy at these prices. This shit is getting installed everywhere...they cant make it fast enough...everything is backordered and i bet they are sitting on a mountain of CARES ACT money since their products qualify. Cares act ends decemeber 31 2020 and then there will be public records that track the where the cares monies went....trackable to vendor. Remember a few months back when Payroll Protection amounts were made public? News stories everywhere...Journalists follow the money because the story is always interesting and Healthe is going to be on the radar. It wont be their full financials but here is my bet in this stock.....the amount of CARES ACT orders they recieve will be more than their annual sales in the last year they filed qith the SEC in 2017.

Also...saw a new patent suit filed this week with multiple defendants. Patent infringement has been a good revenue stream historically for this company. If biz is bad why sue to stop competition.

Buy now and get on the bus with whomever is collecting this....and me of course.

[wwind]

Caveat Emptor On January 31, 2021 TD Ameritrade will restrict orders in Caveat Emptor designated OTC securities to liquidating trades only. Closing trades will continue to be allowed after this time. LSCG is on the list.

[Timg1]

Thinking you are correct. Next your will be big, just hold on and don’t panic.

[Zack 717]

Thinking it’s a corporate power play so they don’t have to file. With Biden in the White House though the green push (led bulbs) and the COVID-19 team (uv 22) looking for a stellar year.

[NYC_JimBob]

It’s tanking....not sure why, but most of all the gains are gone

[MAJ-999]

Yea I see that too its nice to see. 113,730 today.

Aside from that, Its going to continue to take serious conviction holding this until the tipping point occurs that we know is coming.

-More clinical studies to win over the majority(around the corner)
-FDA gives gives a bigger thumbs up
-More wide spread adoption across the world/ all over mainstream
-corporate contracts
-LSCG SEC filing


-Spin-off from LSCG into its own public company??? (this one is very speculative)

[Gonzgap]

alright! somebody is stepping up to get involved....you all seeing this 168,000 share bid today? Biggest bid I've seen ever on lscg. somebody knows something huh?

[Gonzgap]

12,500 with deliveries in Q1.

[MAJ-999]

Have you gotten a price for Wand pro yet?

[Gonzgap]

Boeing - Healthe Pro Wand is available for pre-orders. I've submitted an inquiry for my business. Saw a press release that said deliveries will commence in the fall. Boeing has a great video on their website featuring the Healthe Pro Wand....looks like something out ghostbusters. They did a live virus test in an airplane cabin....pretty crazy.

[Zack 717]

No concerns waiting for December betting they file again. Covid-19 scare in nursing homes,hospitals,schools and government buildings will all have some form of uv 22 in them. And the states turning to legal MJ that’s more grow light sales. All good here bought more today.

[Gonzgap]

I received a notice from etrade yesterday that after 11/21 they would no longer allow purchase of stocks designated "caveat emptor" by OTC Markets. Can still hold and sell these stocks just can't buy any.
LSCG is on the list from OTC Markets as they don't file and financial info....I'm thinking that is reflected in the prices this morning. Several new products rolled out at the Global Wellness Summit yesterday. Will start looking for a new trading platform today.
The way this ticker is moving today it feels a little like OPTI. lol!

[Zack 717]

Fred at the White House. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/champions/nasa-innovators/fred-maxik

[Zack 717]

Looks like Biden going to hit COVID pretty hard. Fred has been too the White House a few times in the past. Be nice if he ends up on the task force.

[Zack 717]

Big lol

[Zack 717]

Thinking there is going to be a bid announcement at the Wellness conference, that’s how they play it.

[NYC_JimBob]

Right? Crazy!

[Leatherstocking]

Volatility in this stock is crazy.

[NYC_JimBob]

.42 to .30 in 2 hours?

[dave7933]

The key question about the patents is how many of them were sold to the private equity company as part of the transaction. How do we know what patents LSCG still holds? To me that is just as secretive as the ownership issue.And assuming they still own all of these patents unless I missed something I see nothing related to lighting and controlling or killing a virus.

[NYC_JimBob]

https://healtheinc.com/news/boll-branch-ceo-talks-healthe-technology-installation-with-cnbcs-jim-cramer/

[NYC_JimBob]

Nice Zack.....good post!

[Zack 717]

LSCG patents list. https://patents.justia.com/assignee/lighting-science-group-corporation. Long list enjoy the read.

[NYC_JimBob]

I'm waiting fr .27--.29

[CED Brian]

Willbone, he said he wanted good information, not wild-ass guesses. The only good information on LSCG is that nobody has any idea what's going to happen.

[willlbone]

Going back to 45 cents. Buy now.

[Tims Questions]

I am new to this board and I have a couple to questions. I've read some of the posts and much of it is conjecture, I am trying to figure this out like everyone else. I see that some folks say that they KNOW what the public company owns, patents are the most important thing. In the absence of filings this is all but impossible to determine, yet there are some that state that they KNOW that the public company owns the patents. How? The patents are the only thing worth owning. I have looked and cannot determine from anything that I read where the patents reside. I'm not looking for conjecture, for every guess based upon what has been done in the past there is a securities lawyer who knows how to get around it. If/when something happens with the company the public side will be a potential "legal morass" for them as they have done nothing to show what is no longer in the public company. In a legal sense that implies that all assets are still in the company. What this will come down to is how much of a pain in the balls will the public company be and what are they willing to pay to make nice.
Does any one KNOW if the patents are still on the company and how do you know?

[Zack 717]

Last post was a little much, sorry late and to many beers lol. Ok let me try to explain a little better. LSCG has never given out stock information, I know tried for years. Just my opinion but how I see it they needed shares to start the company up as many companies do. When they made the deal with Home Depot the stock flew ( wasn’t fluid enough than to invest). Than Home Depot stuck it to them and the stock sunk (long story and irrelevant now) many many upset investors. After that they had to rebuild (to much inventory,to much money spent on logistics) slowly they built back and the stock stayed low,that’s when I got in,been buying for 10 years. Was looking more towards Vivid grow, nice grow light and still a viable play (if Biden wins MJ will be legal nation wide maybe Trump too for the states and the banking system). UV22 is here to stay so with that that’s two out of three companies with long lasting effects. In an earlier post there is a link that explains holding companies. Bottom line I think this Is a win win.

[Zack 717]

Because they got caught with their pants down. Been here for a long time they have been buying stock in the lows for a long time to go totally private, they got close but COVID cut their plan short now they have a problem with us share holders and we need to force their hand and drive the price up. Finally we have the power to force their hand don’t fall for these lows my feelings are they are causing this sell off to gain total control. They want my shares buy me out at $1.00 and i will go away until than I will post everything I can to help all of us that have stuck with or been stuck by LSCG. I have the shares let’s do this!

[dave7933]

So why are they so secretive about what percent they own of Healthe. I have not been able to get an answer out of anyone despite several attempts.

[Zack 717]

What I have found so far. %90 of the shares are owned by Pegasus and LSCG that’s why they don’t have to file unless there are 300 share owners. This site explains what they did in 2019. https://www.ledsmagazine.com/leds-ssl-design/networks-controls/article/16699114/lighting-science-separates-health-into-new-enterprise-and-is-now-a-holding-company. This site explains what a holding company does and why. https://www.joshuakennon.com/how-a-holding-company-works/. So all the companies are tied together. So one of two things are going to happen, 1 they are going to have to file and from what I have seen lately should be really good or 2 they will have to buy us out, either way it’s a win win as long as everyone holds.

[Zack 717]

You have to dig around on line to find it I’ll try this weekend. Read about Bidens tax plan this drop could be about capital gains. Lot of people out there like me, I’m in at 0.0025 and not saying how many I have lol but don’t want to take that big hit, but I will hold on.

[NYC_JimBob]

Do they post a list of people that Own?

[Zack 717]

My opinion only, but December if they have 300 share holders they have too file. LSCG has three companies now so if they are not collecting from them how are they keeping their company afloat. All three companies were LSCG and they split them for marketing and logistics reasons Just think these lows are a ploy too get the lnvestors under 300. Time to buy some cheapies in my wife’s name. Got to keep the 300!

[dave7933]

Maybe more and more are figuring out there is no earnings report date as they are not a reporting company and who knows how much they own of Healthe and what it actually means to the stock. I want answers. Growth in Healthe sales and profit means nothing to LSCG unless we know the answers.

[NYC_JimBob]

Took a hit today..... not sure why with all the new purchases and media coverage.....

[NYC_JimBob]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/healtheinc_thisishealthe-uvdisinfection-faruvc-activity-6722490966940499968-A43o

[Leatherstocking]

Showed some resiliency today.

[Zack 717]

New Healthe web sight https://healtheinc.com/news/healthe-launches-new-website/. Funny how Healthes address in Melbourne Florida is where Lighting Sciences is.

[NYC_JimBob]

All interesting information from the both of you. What do you suppose causes a .07 swing from one day to the next?

[Radar 53]

Somewhere between 3.75 and 4.5.
The overall market value was 1/2 billion $

[NYC_JimBob]

Where was this 10 years ago when u got in... .001?

[Zack 717]

Welcome to the OTC, been watching for 15 years an investor for 10. Done all the due diligence and digging I could do. Bottom line pennies are gut investing and my gut is telling me too hold. After all the news than Boeing and this weeks run up my gut tells me something big is coming.

[Radar 53]

I tried to tell everyone about the issues of who owns Healthe(see post 717 & 721). No one believed me. I orignally bought in 12 years ago. Stock was trading at about 4 1/2 with a market cap of 500mm. My friend was on the board and educated me on the future of LED lighting. He was right, but the company made so many misteps that it went into oblivion. Eventually less than .01. I bought a bunch of shares, for almost nothing. I then held it for years. Eventually Pegasus bought out all but 300 shareholders (I was in that group). My friend left the board, disgusted by how they ran the company. For years my shares were worth almost worth nothing. When covid hit, I noticed movement. I was excited like everyone else, planning to make major $$$. I tried to find out information. Not easy. So I sold 75% of my shares for a good profit. I plan to hold the rest, just to see what happens (and hopefully make some $$$). I called & emailed Heathe & LSCG. I was told that they were separate companies. Another disturbing fact Wilbur Ross (Related Companies) and Matt Higgens say they are investors in Healthe. I do not believe that they mean LSCG. Healthe is definitely heating up, but even with the price increase of LSCG the $ volume that it trades daily is 20K to now 200K. Thats nothing. I realize that its a pink sheet stock with no reporting, but this stock would be higher if LSCG owned all or most of Healthe. Also, when I spoke to the people at Healthe they said that someone would get back to me about investing in Healthe, but I blew it by asking too many question about who owns who. They stopped calling me back. And, I'm not saying that this can't succeed. Who knows?? I'm very interested to hear from others about what they may know.

[dave7933]

How do we know what patents are owned currently and what was transferred to the Private Equity firm in the transaction. I could not get any kind of answer out of the person I spoke with which raises a red flag to me. I point blank said I have no idea whether I should be invested in your company or not right now and he said he could not provide any additional info.