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Wow - uncommonly intelligent!
briscoe has credibility problem. Beside the HUGE loss shareholders suffered, none of his past PRs have materialized. This is a old man who has never proven 1 ounce of anything, just a hot air bag. Zero results and $70+ miilion in losses.
I know, tried that before, but unfortnuately didn't help...
Mosty of thee time I try to ignore them, but some days...
They are out in full force. Means JB is doing a good job.
Look guys look!!!!!
The non-believers are getting smaller and smaller in my rear view mirror!!!....lol
We are at a major bottom in gold and gold shares - Bob Moriarty
Bob Moriaty provides a contrarian's guide to volatile markets and the reasons why he is looking at junior miners now.
Author: Sally Lowder
Posted: Tuesday , 15 May 2012
TORONTO (The Gold Report) -
Trotting the globe in his unrelenting quest for investing opportunities, Bob Moriarty had just completed a 21,000-mile travel-a-thon when he picked up the phone for this exclusive interview with The Gold Report. He liked a lot of what he saw and found plenty of bargains along the way. Ever the contrarian, he is picking up stocks when everyone else is dumping them; he plans to cash in when the mass of sellers morphs into a mass of buyers and drives prices up.
The Gold Report: We're hearing many people these days warning that it's not a good time for investing in junior mining stocks. The TSX Venture Exchange has been experiencing some of its lowest volumes in six to nine months. What do you believe investors should do this summer?
Bob Moriarty: Anybody following my website for years will be familiar with me saying this: You can ignore technical analysis. You can ignore seasonality. You can ignore fundamentals. The only thing you can ever absolutely make money in is being a contrarian. Some very big names in the mining industry, including Rick Rule and Eric Sprott, have said, yes we're in the bottom but it'll be several months before you should invest. Where were they April 25 last year, when I said we'd reached the top in silver? For months afterward, the very best place to be was in cash. You have to look at what people say and when they say it. Very few people got it last year, but I clearly was one of them.
We are at a major bottom in gold and gold shares. The fact that some of the biggest names in the business are telling investors to bail out or keep their hands on their wallets if they're tempted to buy is a buy signal. If you have a hundred people in a room and every single one of them was a bear, the next trade would be up because you would have run out of sellers. The fact that the volume is so low speaks volumes all by itself. There are no buyers-only sellers, and we're about to run out of those. When that happens, the very next trade will be up.
It's a chicken-and-egg situation. Which came first? In this situation, was it the bottom or the news? Everybody hears, "The Dow went up 200 points today because of xyz." They try to connect news with action and it's exactly the opposite. When gold and gold shares go up, they'll say it's because of Iran, or Israel, or Osama bin Laden or Ron Paul. It's nonsense. It will go up because we're running out of sellers. When you have no sellers, you only have buyers. It's that simple. Too simple for most people to understand. But those who do will make a lot of money. Dawn follows the darkest hours.
TGR: But suppose the government announces quantitative easing (QE) 3, for instance, or some new European debt problems crop up. Wouldn't such news prompt investors to buy junior gold and silver shares?
BM: Absolutely not. What you hear on the radio, read in newspapers and most of what you see on the web is not news. It's propaganda. We have the equivalent of QE3 in Europe, something like $6.7 trillion, and gold, silver and equities have been going down. There's no connection between news and action. We have been spring-loaded to believe that the news is important and it's not. It's meaningless. Six people control 95% of the news media and you're being told what they want you to believe. That doesn't mean it's news.
TGR: So you have to divorce yourself from the news if you really want to be a contrarian in investing in mining stocks?
BM: Absolutely. Every time I call a silver or gold top and I'm perfectly correct, a hundred people immediately write to tell me how stupid I am in calling a top when in fact they're always dead wrong. They never tell me a month later; they always tell me as soon as I say it. Well, I've called tops and bottoms correctly for 10 or 11 years now. To be able to do that, either I have to know something other people don't or I have to be the guy doing the manipulation. And believe me, I'm not the guy doing the manipulation. All markets are manipulated and that makes manipulation as close to meaningless as you can get.
The mere fact that shares are hard to sell and there's very low volume is a buy signal all by itself. If you want to make a fortune in the junior mining segment, buy when nobody wants to buy and sell when everybody wants to buy. If that were all you did, you'd make 100% a year. Juniors have a 200-400% range every year. Buy when things hit a new low, sell when they hit a new high and ignore all the "gurus."
TGR: You talked about calling silver's high last April, and you've again been looking at silver and gold assets around the world. Do you consider yourself more of a silver bull or a gold bull? Or neither?
BM: I'm an agnostic. As for what I look for, I don't look for silver or gold or boron or natural gas. I look for opportunities.
TGR: Do you look at certain jurisdictions or provinces that are particularly good for mining activity and then bet on some of those areas? Or is it always company specific in your view?
BM: It's actually management-specific. You need to look at a lot of factors, of course, but the most important is management. The country or province is absolutely important. I'm going to write an article shortly and will call it "The Miners' Lament." It's about having a gold or silver or boron project and the price of the commodity goes up. As soon as the price goes up, governments get greedy. That's happened in Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador and Australia. To a certain degree it's happening in Argentina, because the government has started getting greedy and claiming a bigger piece of the miners' pie.
TGR: On May 4, Argentina's Congress passed a bill to nationalize the biggest oil company there, expropriating 51% of its shares. Although not entirely unexpected because President Cristina Kirchner had announced her decision to nationalize a couple of weeks earlier, the action-pretty much effective immediately-sent shockwaves through the resource investing community. Do you think this news makes investing in Argentinian juniors more risky?
BM: There are a couple of different issues to address here. One is the stupidity of government in Argentina. In 1914, Argentina had the third-highest GDP in the world. Based on agriculture and metal wealth and the educational level of its people, Argentina still should be one of the wealthiest countries in the world. It's not, and hasn't been for 100 years now. The reason is 100 years of incredible stupidity in government.
The resources are there. The people are there. The climate's wonderful. The wine's good. Buenos Aires is a lovely city to live in. Yet Argentineans suffer economically. For the government to seize the biggest oil company is especially stupid. The excuse was it was not making enough money out of it-in much the same way that the power company in South Africa wasn't making a profit because the government imposed limits on what the power company could charge for the power it sold.
Governments believe they're smarter than the economy and they can repeal or modify the laws of supply and demand. They can't. The last 6,293 times governments have tried to show they're smarter than the economy, they've screwed it up. Governments just get in the way of people making money. If you go to Switzerland, you don't even see government. In Sweden, government's in the background and that's a welfare state. But, government doesn't figure into every newspaper article and everything you hear on the radio. In China, I don't have a clue how the government works; I just know it's an exciting place to make money.
So let's go back to whether it's safe to invest in Argentine juniors. I think it is because the juniors are in the exploration stage and they're bringing money into the country. It would be especially stupid for the government to get involved at this point. I don't think it will fool around with the production companies yet, either, but there's no limit to the stupidity of governments.
TGR: Santa Cruz Province in particular seems to be a fantastic jurisdiction for exploration-great roads, nearby power, supportive locals. I was impressed.
BM: I was quite impressed too.
TGR: How do you view Tanzania in terms of jurisdictional risks?
BM: The real issue there is the infrastructure. Mining provides most of the country's export income, so it's as important in Tanzania as it is in Peru. If you want to talk about jurisdictional risk, look at Peru and think again about "The Miners' Lament."
Peru's smart enough. It gets 60% of its export earnings from mining and now has a process in place whereby some of these idiots can be thrown out, and I think the local people in Cajamarca are about to throw him out. There's so much corruption in Peru. It's like Ecuador and Bolivia-there's no rule of law.
TGR: What about North America, Bob?
BM: First, let's talk about the difference between Canada and the United States. Canada is a wonderful place to work. I think it's the most favorable mining community in the world. There's some invisible line you cross when you go from the U.S. into Canada and all of a sudden, you become sane. The people in the U.S. amaze me with their ignorance of politics, economics and everything that's going on in the world. They're so insular; they just don't pay attention.
Canada, on the other hand, is still an international country. The miners and geologists in Canada travel all over the world, and like Johnny Appleseed, they're spreading goodwill and knowledge wherever they go. There is no mining anywhere in the world without an abundance of Canadians, and by the same token, no mining area anywhere else in the world has an abundance of Americans except America.
That said, from a geological point of view, there's enormous opportunity in the United States, but the government's still being especially stupid. At some point, somebody will realize you can't keep spending more money than you take in. The United States is borrowing $0.41 out of every $1 it spends today. That's insane. Some 88 million Americans are unemployed or underemployed-88 million people who aren't working and we have only 64% employment among those who should be working. At some point, Americans will have to produce something besides hamburgers and new regulations and idiots in politics.
TGR: To have new discoveries cropping up in Nevada is pretty exciting when you consider how much exploration has been done there. It's amazing what Nevada is producing in terms of mining opportunity and wealth.
BM: I'm extremely familiar with the Carlin Trend and what's been going on there in the last five years, and it's the juniors who are making the bigger discoveries. I don't even bother talking to the majors. They aren't developing as many ounces as they're producing, and they're all going to be out of business in 10 or 15 years. You just can't conduct your business doing it that way. The juniors are coming up with these multimillion-ounce deposits that nobody dreamed of because they never tried drilling there before.
TGR: Obviously, you feel like it's a shopper's paradise in junior stocks. Are there any other opportunities that you're particularly keen on that you'd like to talk about?
BM: Anything related to energy is an opportunity. Natural gas is being given away. And, from a contrarian point of view, it's a gimmie. Potash is absolutely a big opportunity and graphite is another one.
TGR: So you don't think all the buzz about graphite means it's a bubble, a flavor of the month?
BM: It absolutely is the flavor of the month. But you get a bubble when about 450 companies are in a space, and now there are only about 30. I don't expect all 30 to succeed, but I own about five of them. I'm quite happy to because I think there's a wonderful opportunity there. When it gets to 450 companies, I'll probably start selling some of my shares. Every investor should be familiar with Hobson's Choice.
TGR: How so?
BM: Hobson was an innkeeper in rural England back in the 1700s. He was very lazy. If someone came to him asking for a trotting horse to ride around the village for an hour or two, he'd fetch the first horse nearest to the door of the stable. It might be a plow horse. So Hobson's Choice was no choice at all or the best of a bad lot.
We live in a financial environment in which every bank in the United States has been bankrupt for four years and everybody is still pretending they're going to survive. In Spain, 52% of the young people are unemployed. We are so close to a global revolution, it terrifies me. In that situation, you have to go to safety. So investors have no choice, really. And believe it or not, I don't see anything safer than juniors-gold or graphite or boron or natural gas or potash. If you are faced with a choice of investing in U.S. T-Bills or Greek bonds or Spanish bonds or resource juniors, what would you invest in?
TGR: People always have to eat and need a way to trade.
BM: You've got it. But they must have something of value to trade. I don't know whether the gold price will be $500/oz or $5,000/oz or $50,000/oz, but I can tell you that in two, three or five years, if you have a 10-ounce bar of silver in one hand and a 1-ounce gold coin in the other, you'll know you're holding something of value. Marc Faber says everybody should buy a $1M T-bill, put it in a nice frame, hang it on the wall and in 10 or 20 years when the grandkids visit, they can point to it and say, "See that? That used to be money." Paper money is already a relic. It's not a prediction-it's here now. [Faber, who produces a monthly investment newsletter, Gloom Boom & Doom Report, chatted recently with The Gold Report.-Editor.]
TGR: You've given us some good stuff to chew on, Bob. Thanks so much for your time.
Convinced that gold and silver were at their bottoms, and wanting to give others a foundation for investing in resource stocks, Bob and Barb Moriarty brought 321gold.com to the Internet 11 years ago, and later added 321energy.com to cover oil, natural gas, gasoline, coal, solar, wind and nuclear energy. Both sites feature articles, editorial opinions, pricing figures and updates on the current events affecting both sectors. Before his Internet career, Moriarty was a Marine F-4B pilot and O-1C/G forward air controller with more than 820 missions in Vietnam. A captain at age 22, he was the youngest naval aviator in Vietnam and one of the war's most highly decorated. He holds 14 international aviation records, and once flew an airplane through the Eiffel Tower's pillars "just for fun."
Article published courtes of the Gold Report
http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page103855?oid=151465&sn=Detail&pid=102055
You are using this old case to get us to think that today's NR (122) contains lies. Please say so clearly. It's ok with me if that's what you think. We'll just disagree and wait and see what happens.
That is not what the judge thought...
Tracy too!
Must be getting interesting for us...
kindof,Likely that in a Copper Gold Silver poriffery setting,why would he be suspect of other minerals? He would of needed advice here. I do know that with HREEs AND LREEs, where you find certain of either it is known that you will likely find certain of the rest of the minerals known in these families. So to just specify the majors by ALS CHemex,is to acknowledge the likely hood of a more vast pressence of REEs. Sombody at the LAB/ALS, imo was the likely place that the idea eruppted and hence the longer time table for us in getting the publishment of the NR-122. The glove fits JB has greater discovery than expected from the Hay Mountain claims will the jury please rise and give us your plea? We find JB guilty of greater geology work than was ever hoped for!
In any case, are you willing to clearly state that the report today on REEs is a lie?
I went though all that long ago and concluded that there was no moral problem.
James Briscoe through Linkedin : Progress on Pebble permitting: "Northern Dynasty Confirms $107 Million Work Program To Prepare Pebble Project For Permitting In 2012"
http://www.northerndynastyminerals.com/ndm/NewsReleases.asp?ReportID=524764&_Type=News-Releases&_Title=Northern-Dynasty-Confirms-107-Million-Work-Program-To-Prepare-Pebble-Projec...
There may not be commercial quantity and grade of REEs on these claims, but for now the possibility that there is can be worth quite a bit. Pure speculation. Anyone who holds LBSR any reason that could not accurately be called "speculation" is in the wrong stock.
You have not read it then. Very strong evidence, so strong briscoe had to settle using shareholder money via HUGE dilution and briscoe had no skin in the game, no exposure. To top it all, the fraud lawsuit was the result of actions briscoe took trying to enrich himself illegally. That is briscoe....
Something in the Kitchen is brewing.. Rare Earth Elements Niceee
I don't think there was an attempt to defraud, but it was definitely a mistake.
lol, just bREEEEEEEEElliant! lol
LBSRs will soon reap a great REEward!
Great job James bREEEEEscoe!....lol
Did you read the fraud lawsuit briscoe was involved in recently???
There you go again - implying outright fraud on the part of the company.
hey amigo777, no sooner than the REE team gets here we have the proverbial prodigal "B" team blatting. Sheep are gonna get sheared listening to these negative misfits.
I'm surprised briscoe did not mention a huge diamond find from testing weeds.
Sounds REEsonable to me!
IMO It's difficult to imagine that this new discovery is not ringing some bells and phones in certain offices today. I won't be surprised to hear some follow up news soon.
"Under 2 cents in a week" you said wrong.
I have always said say thanks to briscoe for these spikes.... But you and company don't seem to get it in the market pps goes up and down.. You know normal trading. Then things such as NRs can influence the pps.
So how can you be shocked that everytime it is .02 (bottom) we reverse climbing back up.
The saying goes buy at the bottom sell at the top.
Well you guys think the bottom was sub pennies well gl with that. Otr use to think .15 was the bottom he was wrong.,he wanted to scoop up shares at .015 before the pump.. As you can see he missed it again.
Being proved wrong continously for the past 8 months.
REE's. OLD MAN. ?, why did he order that testing in the first place? Was that recommended by SRK? Or did he do that on a hunch? I would guess it cost's a little more to do the testing? Being short of money, must have been a reason for this.
briscoe mixed up another batch of his sucker kool-aid. Just say NO !!!
LOL...Briscoe is a total scream and totally predictable...LOL
As usual, when LBSR is in danger of slipping below 2 cents, the old man puts out another PR which I will attempt to translate for you.
"We still have not dug up a single ounce of anything and are still using our silly magnets to stir up emotions in naive investors to provide me with a very comfortable life style"
And the troops still fall for it every time....LOL
I used to think Briscoe was incompetent. Now more then ever I realize the guy is a friggin genius. There's a sucker born every minute and Briscoe finds them all to fund his luxurious lifestyle....LOL
A good teaser. A teaser that is bringing 14% imagine if we get news of a jv or decent finacial deal. This shows the easy gains that can be made here.
YAH YAH! Not only that but for any buyers that do in fact DD accross the boarder with our Canadian friends then you will know that an area this large is in fact a GIANT of a find. From the NR,This anomaly covers almost 9 square miles.,so wouldnt "SUPER HUGE GIANT MAMMOTH "REE" PROJECT" be a fitting name for this discovery(?)! s4s thats a WOWSA!
Patience rewarded grasshopper!
Hello folks!
So, today's PR is a good thing is it not?
I sure hope so.
Does he remind you of the old man from the movie "up"? lol
Briscoe is by far the most stubborn old man that has ever existed. "Financially naive" is an understatement....HOWEVER....these amazing new discoveries put us into an entirely different strastopheric potential value metric. I have to hand it to the old man, he sure knows how to find the jewels! LBSR...best kept secret in penny land...amazing opportunity to load at riduculously low prices IMHO
This might not be a pop beacuse they are breaking up the nr by updates this may be a steady climb till jv or better financing options.
Hi lilpup! Things are looking good here. REE's near the surface is good news.
Last post my arsh lol or is this a wecome back? Lbsr sparked interest?
Good NEWS UPDATE today! I was truly surprised (UNEXPECTED) to see that there is indication of REE in a large area that is separate from the porphyry system. Well, ZTEM should confirm everything in HM.
Heck, Commercial REE is better than GOLD!!! NICE DEVELOPMENTS IN HM!!!
I didn't even think about this problem until a couple of negative posters alerted me that today's press release was possibly criminally fraudulent, even, more horrible, fishy.
Classic leif...rotflmao big time
Simply put- everything is going according to plan. Positive geochemical results- but these are only useful as a guide in conjunction with the vegetation samples, and, most importantly, the ZTEM survey, which will give depth and substance to these sample hints. The only surprise is a positive surprise- the REEs- a little- or maybe even a substantial bonus. It's slow and methodical. But proceeding just as stated. With patience, we will get there. This should reassure all but the most committed doubters.
I have been skeptical of the efficacy of surface geochems in determining the extent of a deep porphry system, but the REEs at the surface certainly are a welcome surprise.
The ZTEM will tell the whole story, that's what I'm waiting for.
Very possible a lot will depend once all samples are in, and how they are going to Ztem financially.
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Geochem Field Tech, August, 2011
The Tombstone Super Project (TSP ) hosts Liberty Star’s premiere multi target property: Hay Mountain. The TSP initially consisted of 33 unpatented federal lode mining claims over a projected covered porphyry copper mineral center in Cochise County, Arizona. In 2011 and 2012 more USBLM claims and Arizona Mining Exploration Permits were added after Chief Geologist James Briscoe discovered a large multimodal anomaly over a large covered porphyry copper mineral center within the larger TSP area. Currently, the TSP entails 14.67 square miles of claimed or permitted lands with Hay Mountain covering 13.45 square miles of the area.
Mining throughout the region began in the late 19th Century and led to the rise of legendary boom town Tombstone, Arizona. Many of these mining sites, including what is now Liberty Star’s land, reside within or adjacent to a large volcanic and intrusive geologic feature known as a caldera. These caldera structures are present throughout southern Arizona, making the region one of the richest porphyry copper areas on the planet. By 1938 exploration and development of the Tombstone Mining District in this area was stalled by altered sedimentary rock (hornfels) that was too hard for the drill technology of the day(churn drills).
With copper prices on a continued upward trajectory, and modern mining technology in place, the terrain along this large caldera is again of great interest throughout the mining industry. Through geochemical sampling and computer modeling, Liberty Star founder and Chief Geologist & CEO James Briscoe, discovered a compelling drill target for a very large limestone hosted porphyry copper-replacement deposit. If exploration is successful, mining projected for this target would be underground and could produce copper, moly, gold, silver, lead, zinc and potentially other by product metals. While there are no drilled mineral resources on this property, it is adjacent to the old historic Tombstone Consolidated mines and the target is defined by technical work to allow an immediate start to drill testing. The Tombstone mining district has a well developed infrastructure and enjoys sunny skies over 300 days a year, ideal for year round exploration and mining activities.
In mid March, 2011 Liberty Star contracted SRK Consulting to prepare technical reports over three areas within the Tombstone Super Project : Hay Mountain, Tombstone South and Walnut Creek. Members of SRK’s engineering/scientific staff supervised by Qualified Person and SRK’s Tucson Office Principle Geologist Corolla Hoag, and geologist Dr. Jan Rasmussen have visited the Tombstone property. Their information combined with the previously gathered geochemical, geophysical and computer modeling data underwent a thorough technical analysis. The resulting technical reports concluded that all three claim blocks were worthy of further exploration work.
In 2011 extensive geochemical sampling at Hay Mountain rendered approximately 1,800 soil/rock/vegetation samples which were analyzed for 64 elements at a certified facility in Vancouver, British Columbia. Expected markers for porphyry copper, gold, moly, silver and zinc were present. The geochemical data also yielded the unexpected presence of four of seventeen Rare Earth Elements (REEs). Further analysis of the REE data will be undertaken at a later date.
Liberty Star contracted Geotech Ltd. to run a ZTEM airborne electromagnetic survey over the Hay Mountain area in 2013. The final draft report has been submitted to Liberty Star concluding :
1. There are as many as 10 meaningful targets within the Hay Mountain Project area.
2. Hay Mountain contains a major anomaly centered on the geochem anomaly reported by Liberty Star (NR 127).
From the “Executive Summary” Summary Interpretation Report on a Helicopter-Borne
Z-Axis Tipper Electromagnetic (ZTEM) and Aeromagnetic Geophysical Survey:
The Hay Mountain Project Tombstone Mining District, Cochise County, Arizona
For: Liberty Star Uranium & Metals Corp.:
“The Hay Mountain Property is mainly underlain by a thick sequence of Paleozoic quartzite, limestone and siltstones, but potentially hosts buried porphyry copper deposits at structural intersections and under basin-fill formations. There is additional potential for polymetallic carbonate-hosted replacement deposits (CRD), as well as shallow chalcocite blanket porphyry type deposits and also skarn type porphyry copper deposits. Previous soil and vegetation geochemical surveys have identified a coincident Au-Pb-Cu anomaly and larger Mo-halo in the center of the property. The objective of the ZTEM surveys is to identify favourable magnetic and resistivity signatures related to potentially more deeply buried porphyry copper, CRD/skarn and chalcocite replacement deposits at Hay Mountain. The Magnetic surveys have determined that Hay Mountain hosts a large dominant magnetic high that lies buried below the Paleozoic sediments is centered over the Liberty Star geochemical anomaly and remains open to the south…As many as ten (10) magnetic anomalies have been defined.” (See NR 170, 12/11/2013)
View TSP/Hay Mtn ZTEM & Maps (web page)
View the May 2013 Hay Mtn Summary Presentation (PDF)
View the Feb 2013 Archaeological Study (PDF)
Mag3D Magnetic Inversion Feb 2014
L1410 ZTEM 2D Inversion Resistivity Section Feb 2014
LSUM ZTEM composite Jan 21, 2014
Hay Mtn geochem anomalies w/ drill targets and geochem sample locations
Hay Mtn geochem samples & results (2003-2011)
Hay Mtn property
local Cu and Au mines
JMG Porphyry Copper Model
Tombstone Porphyry-Precious Metals Project consists of 33 unpatented federal lode mining claims over a projected covered porphyry copper mineral center in Cochise County, Arizona. Mining throughout the region began in the late 19th Century and led to the rise of legendary boomtown Tombstone, Arizona. Many of these mining sites, including what is now Liberty Star's land, reside within a large volcanic and intrusive geologic feature known as a caldera. These caldera structures are present throughout southern Arizona, making the region one of the richest porphyry copper areas on the planet. Fuller exploration and development of the Tombstone Mining District was stalled by altered sedimentary rock that was too hard for the drill technology of the day. With copper prices on a continued upward trajectory, and modern mining technology in place, the terrain along this large caldera is again of great interest to the international mining community. Through geochemical sampling and computer modeling, Liberty Star founder and CEO James Briscoe, discovered a compelling drill target for a very large limestone hosted porphyry copper-replacement deposit. If exploration is successful, mining projected for this target would be underground and could produce copper, moly, gold, silver, lead, and zinc. While there are no drilled mineral resources on this property, it is adjacent to the old historic Tombstone Consolidated mines and the target is defined by technical work to allow an immediate start to drill testing.
http://www.libertystaruranium.com/www/projects/tombstone-project
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