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Don't know how PB got shares.
Lmao .... no volume yet ....
I guess the MMs are too busy arguing over whose shares went at .17, .16 and .155 yesterday. They will not take real orders until this question is resolved.
jc ...... does the report state
if Prudent Bear bought these shares on the open market, or through the Company?
Bob ... 15%
based on the 5/14/03 10QSB of 20,879,494 shares outstanding
First ... welcome desert and jcmolitas and thanks, jc,
for the info on Prudent Bear! I never did get a chance to read thru their report (always on the back burner).
It shows that they have confidence in KAIR.
Institutions have more access to Companies than do retail (small) investors, which means they know more than we do.
Sorry while typing this message, got a VRA alert and did a little trading .... 45% in 45 minutes *grin* (IMHO DON'T BUY VRA)
jc,
Give or take, what % of KAIR does Prudent Bear own?
Prudent Bear buys more KAIR - In the Prudent Bear Semi- annual report it shows that Prudent Bear upped its investment in KAIR by 454,545 shares between 10/1/02 and 3/30/03. They now own 3,141,045 shares.
Yes, serious KAIR discussion, for some serious announcements on the way. We can analyze and share DD together. Great leverage at these prices, double your money at .37 cents. No brainer.
sorry, mis-keyed "covered by those 3500</B> sell shares"
I think this is the final shakeout try before something positive happens.
MMs seem to get positive (or negative) news before it is released, and act accordingly. It is their job, no DUTY, to buy low and sell high to the retail public.
1-won,
2300 @ .17
Did you get those 3500 shares at .17???
Notice that they were covered by that 2500 16 cent sell. IMHO the .17 .16 and .155 were phantom sells.
My juices are starting to flow now, as we are getting into my AON ranges ..... might have to change those orders a little
jc,
I was trying to see if they would take it down more - yesterday. It is a GTC bid and later today I might raise it to .18 or .19. Waiting to see which way the wind blows on volume. I have plenty of shares now and at this point it is just a game anyway. Substantial news will change all of that.
Bob
I believe that the next big move will be after the quarterly report comes out in mid August. That should show the sales to Dinex and also the Carbon cloth sales. We should hit $500,000 in the quarter. This will show KAIR is for real. Then the sales to London, which will not be by KAIR but by KAIR England, which is 30% owned by KAIR. KAIR will be paid 8% of the gross sales and 30% of the net profit.
Since the bid is at .17, the MM won't sell you any at .17. If you want to buy you need to be at .19. If IBM was at 80 bid 81 ask you could not buy it at 80. Try putting in an order at .19 and then you will see how much stock is available.
1 - won
No pard, I did not get any yesterday. I'm still there @ .17. I do not expect to have any luck with that because those 500 and 1000 share trades are just the MMs talking to each other. I do believe that any good news (and it will come) will send us back up where we belong. As more than just a casual observer of KAIR, relative to the pennies, we have way too much promise to sit here for very much longer. We are way oversold and no one is turning loose of what they have. I think that Lionel knows that and is working to insure that those of us who have been loyal will be rewarded.
Sounds like the rehab is going well. Bob
Bob ...
Thought that yesterday's 500 share trade at .17 was a "sympathy" sell to someone and that you got them.
Looks like today will be a mirror of yesterday, that 1K buy just now, followed by a 500 share sell ($85) later in the day ... net zero. The MMs do NOT want to show anything positive on KAIR, since IMHO they are trying, without much success, to gather shares.
Still have my AON bids in, just in case
Greetings Ann ...
I hope we can get better performance from this board than RB delivers.
As far as KAIR goes, IMHO all will be grand once they get all their ducks aligned and can start announcing contracts, sales, etc.
Patience will be rewarded.
Good Luck, all
Hi Ann,
Yes, I think for important communication this will be a better forum. I tried to buy a block today at .17 and I was right, it's just a game that the MMs are playing. They are not selling any to us for .17. I left it GTC so we will see tomorrow. I'm glad your here.
Bob
Hi gang, I'm here with you. Great idea ... this sure does beat
RB and all it's problems.
Ann
Onewon,
Just ordered more KAIR @ .17 to see if it's a game or if there is a share or two still available at this giveaway.
KAIR is A Great Investment! I agree!
Welcome aboard, sir ...
Were you the lucky one who bought those 18 cent shares Friday?
I got back just a little too late to get an order in.
I do have a few AON & GTC orders in, just in case another 5K sale drops the pps further.
Oneone,
O.K., I am here with you. A good post, yours. Maybe Hotstock will join us. We also need Dowap, Sternocreed, Wahoo Woman, jc, and several others that I will post later.
Bob
* 15 + Compelling Reasons KAIR's A Great Investment:
First, a major force in the investment community, David Tice, a frequent expert guest on CNBC, has virtually endorsed KleenAir, by the following action; KAIR's Largest (known) Investor, a Short Fund that Went Long on KAIR to the tune of $1,500,000.00, and you know what they say, follow the money!
http://www.pollutiononline.com/content/news/article.asp?docid={50a83dec-986c-11d6-a78a-00d0b7694f32}
LATEST NEWS SUPPORTS INTELLIGENT BUSINESS PLAN FOLLOW THROUGH
When Extengine and KleenAir "parted company" it was obvious that KleenAir's next "partner(s) would need to be better financed and have a better history behind them, if KleenAir was to have proficient, capable and well managed manufacturing and marketing partners. To wit, they formulated various partner ships:
* First one was with Carbon Cloth: http://www.pollutiononline.com/content/news/article.asp?docid={15f84632-5955-11d6-a789-00d0b7694f32}
* Next was with Ford Motor Company -ServoTech: http://www.pollutiononline.com/content/news/article.asp?docid={b88e9ad7-7896-11d6-a789-00d0b7694f32}
* Third was then with Dinex: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/021212/120299_1.html
* Fourth and now with for Industrial Catalytic Engineering: ("I.C.E.") http://www.iceuk.ltd.uk/index2.htm
All the above shows that KleenAir has built a strong sales pipe-line augmentation which will aid them in the following important growth attributes:
* Multiple marketing - manufacturing channels;
* Formulation of ancillary marketing channels;
* Broaden scope of the product mix;
* Increase the manufacturing outsourcing of products
* Eliminate the need for Funding a manufacturing Build out;
* Attracting the likes of Ford or Chrysler and the P.C.O. (Public Carriage Office of London) who want to know that KleenAir has the ability to produce all the products they offer.
Like I said before: The writing is on the wall!
And it all STRONGLY POINTS TO A PROSPEROUS FUTURE FOR KleenAir Systems, Inc.
Now this next news is equally compelling as KAIR's NoxMaster, virtually eliminates any other competing pollution control of this kind,
As KAIR is The First SCR System Authorized in U.K.
http://www.pollutiononline.com/content/news/article.asp?docid={6d04db87-84f1-418c-9c6f-3a47d426a2f0}
And the Experts Say The SCR System hold the most Promise in Pollution Control: http://www.automotivedigest.com/view_art.asp?articlesID=8024
KleenAir Achieves First UK Registered Automotive SCR Pollution Control System* 1/7/2003
http://www.pollutiononline.com/content/news/article.asp?docid={6d04db87-84f1-418c-9c6f-3a47d426a2f0}
The likelihood of anyone coming after this same business as a means of competition, well, consider that a moot point as the System, the NOXMaster has Received Patents in Most of Europe and USA:
http://www.pollutiononline.com/content/news/article.asp?docid={965bf4b7-cfdb-11d5-a77a-00d0b769536b}
It should also be noted that these patents have been upheld in a court of law when unsuccessfully contested by a major potential competitor.
* It's all over for any others if KleenAir gets another Energy Savings Trust registration!!!
The NoxMaster has been tested by Universities, localities, Cities, California Air Resources Board, and many other entities who are certified to authenticate these types of claims of reduction of harmful pollutants and their effectiveness in the diesel arean.
Now the company, being certified by the U.K. Government to do so, is solidifying sales arrangements with companies, localities, governments, cities and the like, who have previously expressed interest previous to the confirmation and endorsement by these government entities.
With just that said, We strongly believe that KleenAir will be one of the best investments in the United States for the year 2003. In the coming months, several news releases are anticipated as KleenAir brings home many purchase orders from those who have been awaiting the results depicted above. Right now it is extremely oversold, and presents an excellent investment opportunity.
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