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franck92, that says nothing about Johnson & Johnson. EOM
Tweet inwith "We are seeing our US Patent portfolio growing in value. 4/4 leading US Patents this far and a 5th possible very soon (more to come). We are actually recieving key patents in the field that $300B co's are trying to get IP. $InWith."
JNJ is certainly observing closely what Inwith is on the point to have.
Agreed.
Their patents are also very weak with few, if any, useful Independent claims, IMO.
I don't see any royalties in their future...
Yes, I looked at most Smart Contact Lens related patents from
InWith,Google,E-Vision, RaayonNova, J&J Vision, Samsung and Sony...
My impression is that InWith patent portfolio is build mostly around what InWith "thinks" will be a required constituent component for most implementations of SCL in the future and they tried to covered it.... Sort of building blocks for some aspects of contact lens of the future.
While there are some interesting ideas, not so certain if what they are proposing is the only way to move forward. Plus, they do not cover AR & VR topics.
"Not so certain about InWith's patent portfolio quality"
EPGL/InWith's patents leave me thoroughly unimpressed...
The much touted "elastic circuit" isn't even feasible and remains untested for that exact reason!
You also seem to have a technical background. Have you been able to look at their patents in detail?
Thank you, I'm interested in companies working on Smart Contact Lenses, wearable micro devices, BioMed, Psychometric, AR & VR, few other things.
Also, welcome to this discussion board. Its good to have you. What are your interests in this field? BioMEMS in general, only smart lens tech? What else do you like? I noticed you just joined iHub and this is the only board you post on.
Well, so far Google and everybody else has failed at it. The point is, InWith has the technology right now. Any tech to come along that somehow finds a way around it is years away, if at all. As for the elastic circuit patent, it has enough in it to own the market on being able to mass produce silicon hydrogel contact lenses that have embedded circuitry.
Then you look at the details of InWith's 3 other patents and the plethora of those in the process of being reviewed, with 1st to file' status, its going to be an interesting path forward.
After personally talking with Silicon Valley patent lawyer heavyweights, WSGR, they are extremely excited about InWith's patent portfolio. Especially, the elastic circuit patent. The hour or so that I got to sit down with them and hear whats going on in the industry, who wants to be a player, etc, that pretty much puts to rest any skepticism I had or hear from those that aren't on the same level as the industry professionals that are actually working in this field.
Everything known to man, when it comes to technology, has a question mark around it. InWith has plenty as does every single company out there. The cards with this company will fall where they fall. Same with J&J, Samsung, Google, and the plethora of small companies out there trying nudge their way into this arena of smart contact lenses. Its going to be an exciting industry to follow.
InWith has stated their first prototype, built with a specific function for a specific biotech, is due to be complete this year. Will be interesting to learn what the function will be and with whom. If its a success, then they can start the clock, 2 years'ish, for the time to conduct trials, etc, to get the product to market.
Because the tech is so futuristic and there are lots of complexities involved in actual implementation. It will take few more years for any of the players to achieve it. Patent holders are likely to benefit, assuming the IP we are talking about is comprehensive and may not be bypassed.
However, patents are not created equal! Many may be bypassed if they are narrow. Not so certain about InWith's patent portfolio quality.
Not if they can bypass technical method and molding process as described in the InWith patent and the patent is somewhat limited..
So, I would say there is a question mark regarding this.
InWith will benefit only if, their technology, as described in their patents, will be implemented. Smart contact lens does not have to be implemented with the technology described by InWith. Their patents describe very specific ways of using electronic circuitry and molding processes to integrate certain electronic components into the contact lens. InWith, has a patent on molding contact lens with empty space - usibility of such tech is also questionable. This can only benefit InWith if someone actually infringes.
The tech described in by InWith is limiting and is not the only way to achieve the same.
If you look at patent portfolio of RaayonNova, it does not strictly assume the same molding process or electronics proposed by the InWith. RaayonNova's patents cover various functions and methods and operations, related to AR & VR SCL, recognizing significant issues that exist for on the eye displays and proposing generic solution in a generic fashion.
Aside from purely AR & VR use of SCL, RaayonNova describes multitude of other useful features of an SCL, such as for example, use of SCL to selectively and dynamically block sunlight in portions of an SCL that is under direct angle from the sun. Useful and very powerful solution.
Take a look at their website: www.ar-smart-lens.com
The good part is, InWith will benefit off of anybody's smart lens, competitors and non-competitors. InWith welcomes all companies and their technologies. And there is going to be a plethora of them out there.
Because nobody is far enough ahead in development to where a product is anywhere near ready for market. Its going to be 2 years minimum before any licensing deal occurs.
Not a single licensee of any of InWith's patents... after many years!
Why is that again?
If they want to do any kind of smart contact lens, they will have to work around InWith's elastic circuit patent. No point in having the lens if they can't manufacture it, so unless they plan on doing it on a lens other than silicon hydrogel, they will be paying InWith royalties.
They are unlikely competitors! InWith does not have IP covering AR & VR smart contact lens at all or any of the tangent or related technologies. This is not their focus. They only made a hypothetical statement regarding possibility of achieving AR SCL in about 5-10 years. InWith does not work on AR smart contact lens.
FYI: RaayonNova is a private company that filed number of patent applications covering some key technology related to AR & VR enabled smart contact lens. Guys are developing actual prototype.
An interesting read from Herald of Scotland:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/16144588.Google_Glass__How_smart_contact_lenses_could_be_the_next_big_thing/
Here is Forbes link on the same:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidphelan/2018/04/20/week-in-wearables-snoring-combated-on-apple-watch-nokia-health-smart-contact-lenses/#ce2aead63ccf
Alls well, wrong url. Thanks David
Have I been locked out of the Facebook site or is something wrong with the page?
Looks like they will be needing InWith's Elastic Circuit technology.
METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR AN IMAGING LENS
Provisional patent app filed by the current leaders in the smart contact lens race, InWith Corp, has recently been published by the USPTO as a non-provisional app is is now under available for review.
15/564,197 METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR AN IMAGING LENS
The present invention is a method and apparatus projecting an image or series of images onto the retina. Furthermore, the present invention is neither cumbersome nor obstructive to the user. This is accomplished by embedding an imaging lens on the perimeter of the contact lens adapted to project an image inward toward the center of the contact lens, wherein the projected light will then be redirected onto the retina.
METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR AN IMAGING LENS
Hard to find anything about the company itself. Articles of their patent applications is all thats out there. They'll be lucky to get one approved before the year 2020.
But they are worth following. Their technology is interesting. Its yet to be seen wether or not they can have those circuits on silicon hydrogel lenses. Its not mentioned in any of their claims.
I added it under COMPANIES LATE TO THE GAME BUT WORTH FOLLOWING section.
Thanks for the heads up. I'll look into it.
You can talk about anything and everything that is related to smart contact lenses or other bioMEM technology.
Maybe this could be posted above. I know RaayonNova is a small company, but they are a competitor.
https://patents.justia.com/patent/20170023793
fine with me...
Can RaayonNova be discussed here?
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Simple reminder of board rules. This board is not a company board. If you wish to comment on a specific company's management, pps, fundamentals, trading behavior, or the validity of a company, etc, then go to the company's specific iHub board and do it there. Any type of posts of that nature posted here, will be deleted. TOS rules also apply.
This board is ONLY for the discussion of BioMEM technology. Right now, we are focusing on smart contact lenses. However, any other type of technology that can be placed into the human body is also allowed.
If there is a company that i do not have listed on the main page, let me know and I will add it if is relevant.
Hey David, are we going to be able to speak about anything we want over here on this iHub page?
InWith Corp has acquired EPGL Med and it's smart contact lens technology. Technology that includes the Elastic Circuit patent. Technology that companies will have to have in order to manufacture silicon hydrogel lenses containing circuitry.
Is there another company that has similar technology that is able to mass manufacture silicon hydrogel lenses containing circuitry???
Simple reminder of board rules. This board is not a company board. If you wish to comment on a specific company's management, pps, fundamentals, trading behavior, or the validity of a company, etc, then go to the company's specific iHub board and do it there. Any type of posts of that nature posted here, will be deleted. TOS rules also apply.
This board is ONLY for the discussion of BioMEM technology. Right now, we are focusing on smart contact lenses. However, any other type of technology that can be placed into the human body is also allowed.
If there is a company that i do not have listed on the main page, let me know and I will add it if is relevant.
Another fascinating article dug up by JudyPudy on smart contact lenses being used with satellites/radar
Virtual contact lenses for radar satellites:
"Radar satellites supply the data used to map sea level and ocean currents. However, up until now the radar's "eyes" have been blind where the oceans are covered by ice. Researchers at the Technical University of Munich (TUM) have now developed a new analysis method to solve this problem……"
Virtual contact lenses for radar satellites
Good article in Forbes regarding the link between watches and wearables.
Forbes article
Interesting article from JudyPudy on a company called E-Vision.
Thanks for the contribution
E-Vision
I used the takeover swap ratio .0026. As far as I can tell your just expressing your opinion.
That .0026 shares of InWith Corp = .13 value for 1 share of EPGL.
Stock merger; EPGL acquired by InWith Corporation, a private Delaware entity; for every 1 share of EPGL shareholders have the right to receive 0.0026 shares of InWith Corporation
5/11/18 daily list - http://otce.finra.org/DailyList
$InWith is positioned to be one of the leaders of tech's hottest new field; Augmented Vision. Soon, $EPGL stockholders will receive the new $InWith shares! It has taken more time because of the switch to a new stock TA, but it is coming and you will see an increase in equity.
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"Within a few years, McEvoy expects J&J to offer contact lenses in which contain medication."
Thanks for sharing
I still think that JJ is in the race with EPGL, I think they are still together, I would not be surprised if JJ was the partner with which they build a prototype.It would be logic.
the partnership for the prototype began in october 2017, I would not be surprised if they have almost finished the prototype.
Anyway, it should be good.
Johnson & Johnson is betting on vision care and expanding beyond contacts
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/19/acuvue-contact-lenses-arent-the-only-piece-of-jjs-vision-portfolio.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" >https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/19/acuvue-contact-lenses-arent-the-only-piece-of-jjs-vision-portfolio.html
"The 1st prototype for a marketable smart contact lens,being produced by EPGL Med, with a specific application, and made of silicon hydrogel, is due out this year. "
Yep, so impatient to see it and maybe to use it.
There will be a multitude of different companies for all sorts of applications. Be it Medical, entertainment or military. Many bluechips that are behind in the race, failed with their tech outright, or simply never got started, are now waiting to buy up the smaller companies rather try and catch up to the others or throw countless millions into R&D.
The 1st prototype for a marketable smart contact lens,being produced by EPGL Med, with a specific application, and made of silicon hydrogel, is due out this year.
SMART CONTACT LENSES MARKET WILL BE FIERCELY COMPETITIVE IN 2023; SAYS SAMSUNG, SONY, GOOGLE
http://www.abnewswire.com/pressreleases/smart-contact-lenses-market-will-be-fiercely-competitive-in-2023-says-samsung-sony-google_184423.html
Good article about more science being put to use for smart contact lenses. They are a long ways out, but who knows. There are many, many companies clawing to get into this coming market. Some are further ahead than others.
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