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I'm getting a lot of alerts showing sites highlighting IVOBs tech indicators soaring. This is brewing nicely. Now if those .36 bidders would stop being so damn cheap.
one huge buy at .40. This will be a lot of fun when they get more publicity about the invocell out there to investors. It will come.
Prior to the increase, I believe company owned appx 60% of the roughly 80m shares.
maybe IVOB will update shareholders on how the conference went?
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http://www.sart.org/SARTExecutiveCouncil/
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October 19 , 2016
by: ASRM Office of Public Affairs
Published in ASRM Press Release
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Salt Lake City- The American Society for Reproductive Medicine is pleased to announce the 2016-2017 leaders of its affiliated societies.
Society for Assisted Reproductive Technology
SART is the primary organization of professionals dedicated to the practice of assisted reproductive technologies (ART) in the United States. ART includes the practice of In Vitro Fertilization (IVF). The mission of our organization is to set and help maintain the standards for ART in an effort to better serve our members and our patients.
Serving as President, Kevin Doody, MD of the Center for Assisted Reproduction, Bedford, TX.
Serving as President-elect: David Seifer, M.D. of Dartmouth
Society of Reproductive Surgeons (SRS)
The Society of Reproductive Surgeons was founded in 1984 to serve as a forum for members of the American Society for Reproductive Medicine with special interest and competency in reproductive surgery.
Serving as President: Ceana H. Nezhat, M.D. of the Nezhat Medical Center, Atlanta, GA
Serving as President-elect: Samantha Pfeifer, M.D. of Cornell University
Society of Reproductive Biologists and Technologists (SRBT)
The mission of SRBT is to advance the continuous professional development of scientists and laboratory specialists working in all disciplines of Reproductive Biology and applied Assisted Reproductive Technologies (ART). SRBT promotes standards of excellence in research and laboratory applications.
Serving as President: Andrew Dorfmann, M.S. from Genetics & IVF Institute in Fairfax, VA
Serving as President-elect: Arthur Chang, Ph.D., HCLD/ELD/CC of the University of Texas
Society for Male Reproduction and Urology (SMRU)
The mission of SMRU is to promote the advancement of our understanding of male reproductive physiology and management of male infertility by providing a forum for the dissemination of both basic and clinical research information and support of educational programs.
Serving as President: Dan Williams, MD of the University of Wisconsin
Serving as President-elect: Cori Tanrikut, MD of Massachusetts General Hospital
Society for Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility (SREI)
SREI Membership requires certification by the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology in both Obstetrics and Gynecology and the subspecialty of Reproductive Endocrinology. Associate Members are completing or have completed fellowship training in Reproductive Endocrinology, and are waiting to complete the Subspecialty Board Examination process.
Serving as President: Tom Price, MD of Duke University
Serving as President-elect: Larry Layman, MD of Georgia Regents University
Curious, as I am new to this stock...but, how many share of of IVOB do y'all speculate most folks on here own?
LOL... would not be surprised to see some type of partnership as IVOB gets farther along and proves out the invocell product. They are entering a market that's suppose to be over 20B by 2020, so lots of $$$ potential. all IMHO, GLTU
From what I understand Invo's table is right next to Merck's table at the conference. Do I smell a partnership?
IVOB is unveiling Invocell for the first time as an FDA approved device at the big infertility conference being held this week. This should create a lot of exposure and bring on many sites that will want to offer the invocell. IVOB just starting the invocell rollout and just being discovered by bio investors. They should have all their financials up to fate over the next few months per last shareholder report, so downside here should be minimal, upside huge, all IMHO. Just takes time for the company to grow.
Curious as to why this stock isn't popping? The speculation alone should be driving up SP, notwithstanding signing all the various clinics.
Religious demographic not a factor?
I'm not even sure how you can say that. The definition of IVF is fertilization that takes place in the lab. GIFT came about as a way to address that issue since some have religious objections to conception taking place outside the body.
With GIFT the egg and sperm are combined and injected directly into the fallopian tube with the hope that conception takes place in the body, not in a lab.
This is the same benefit of the INVOcell with a much lower cost. They refer to it as fertilization occurring in vivo, inside the woman.
It is definitely a major factor for those couples which have those same concerns. As INVO Bio has stated, it gives the couple a greater feeling of being more directly involved in the process.
Wasn't talking about IVF, I had moved on and was referring to climate science and the natural world in general. Francis believes we are charged by God with a moral duty to look after the world He gave us, not to simply pillage, use it and dispose of the refuse at will, like we are doing. As far as IVF, the Church's opposition is institutional and systemic, it does not extend to the parish priests and nuns where the rubber actually meets the road. Francis is more the parish priest than any Pope we've ever had, that's why you are seeing a real awakening amongst lapsed Catholics. He may not be able to change Canon Law already existing, but he can and has been issuing his own edicts and pronouncements which are changing the tone of everything, especially where the natural world is concerned, as well as the evils of unfettered capitalism and materialism and our responsibility to the poor. Will IVF be a part of that? I think it will be, and already is. Even before Francis, in the dark days of the fascistic and reactionary JPII, I had never heard of a parish priest admonishing a couple for going the route of IVF. You'll find that IVF use amongst Catholics is similar to any other group.
Excerpt from a Wikipedia article :
Pope Benedict XVI has publicly re-emphasized the Catholic Church's opposition to in vitro fertilization (IVF), claiming it replaces love between a husband and wife. In addition, the church opposes IVF because it might cause disposal of embryos; Catholics believe an embryo is an individual with a soul who must be treated as a such.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_response_to_assisted_reproductive_technology
Religious demographic? I don't see that as a factor. If anything, those attracted because of the more intimate process will probably be more attuned and connected to a world with 'mother' nature at its core (environmentalists or what are disparagingly referred to as 'tree huggers'), not one manufactured by an all powerful being. I don't think the religious demo you mention will be turned away, I just don't see it at all connected, not to them. Generally, they seem to care less about what's 'natural'. It's amazing to me that that the religious right in America is far, far less likely to believe in climate change and could care less about God's supposedly leaving us in charge down here, as stewards of all that He created. There is a small contingent of younger fundamentalists that are starting to come around to the idea of our being stewards of the natural world, and the God given responsibility that goes with that, but they are tiny and get a lot more press than the movement deserves. Pope Francis is the one bright light in all this, he gets it, but generally speaking, especially in the US, the religious, fundies and most Catholics, are clueless, and defiantly so. I'm ignorant and proud of it! JMO.
Lest we forget the religious demographic that will see this as a much more natural choice over TIVF.
DFF, you make excellent points, and are absolutely correct about insurance coverage. "Having Insurance' doesn't mean a whole lot anymore.
shorthound, excellent info. also I went back and read dr doody's papers and old PR's last night and learned quite a bit. From what I read, it does appear that the Invocell will be agood choice for the vast majority of patients, and in a market that will exceed 20B, even a small percentage of that market will be very significant. All IMHO, appreciate your inputs.
Effortless IVF lists the following...
https://www.effortlessivf.ca/treatment
Some patients aren't good candidates for an INVO™ cycle at Effortless IVF, including those suffering from severe male factor infertility and women with high levels of anti-müllerian hormone (AMH). Patients with an elevated AMH level typically require constant, expensive monitoring. Because the goal of Effortless IVF is to provide patients with a low-cost and less time-consuming method of treatment, these patients may be better candidates for a different type of ART.
Now I don't know if this covers all the scenarios that traditional IVF addresses. They also mention they do not offer certain fertility-related services and Effortless doesn't provide some of them so you would need to go elsewhere for that. At that point a couple may choose to do everything at an IVF clinic rather than piece meal the process. Who really knows?
Also as DFF mentioned it will take time for INVOcell to be an option that a doctor can offer. It takes time for new procedures to grab hold and the sense was that it is already happening which I think is not representative at all. They are just scratching the surface imo.
However, I do agree that if/when INVOcell is accepted as an approved treatment option for infertility by Insurance companies, it will be a great day for INVO Bio.
Many insurance plans do not offer IVF, just as it is not covered in Canada's vaunted single payer system. The higher quality coverage in the US does, but I doubt you'll find that in garden variety plans, or you might get partial coverage. Everything in the US system of insurance is partial. A crazy but true statistic is that most people declaring personal BK in the US do so because of a medical crisis, and most of those ARE insured, just not fully, like we pretty much are in Canada. Sorry for flapping, what I meant to get at is that the INVO system may be as effective, but it is not yet proven in the field, or more importantly, in the mind of the physician and patient to be so, but that should change as stats begin to emerge, I hope. A surer bet at this time, is still traditional IVF. A previous poster mentioned time, precious little of it in the face a ticking biological clock, and that was a powerful statement. He's right, anybody in that situation, with decent insurance coverage will most definitely opt for IVF, and that's if they are even given the choice, which in 98% or more of cases, isn't even available yet. But what of the younger couple or aspiring mom with less stellar insurance coverage, or none at all in that department? Plus the fact that younger patients might be more attracted to the more personal, less clinical INVO procedure. Racing against the clock, 'sentimental' stuff like that goes out the window, but younger folks are still thinking that way. And if it fails, they can still go the IVF route. There is a big market for this device IMO. And a big opportunity for clinics that are willing to adopt it.
lol yeah thats the fun part (for the man at least)
pretty sure Invocell offers free refills, LOL..
thanks, appreciate the kind words.
As far as success rates, from my understanding it is true the success rates are similar AFTER fertilization is complete. Fertilization however is not a guarantee each time with invocell as the fertilization happens within the device itself which can take a number of attempts as opposed to a guaranteed lab-based fertilization.
bk, completely agree with you that right now where you are at, IVF is offered so you take that choice. But you still mention 'success rates" and according to IVOB they have the same success rate as IVF. Now of course your Dr isn't going to recommend Invocell because he can't offer it yet and he would lose business. GLTU and your wife, hope everything turns out great.
shorthound, you've been here a long time and I respect your opinions but you also bring up more questions with your answers. Like what % of couples would a Dr tell them they need IVF rather than invocell due to their "situation"? Is it only 5 to 10%, and what keeps a couple from qualifying for invocell? Is it a medical reason or just their preference? I keep hearing insurance references. A person having insurance today does not mean the same as it did 20 years ago. Back in the day, having insurance meant you paid practically nothing, now you pay very significantly out of your own pocket. I can see Invocell clinics opening as competition to IVF and as long as they can medically help a large % of couples and its half the price, it saves insurance companies and individuals money. I would like to hear more on specific situations from a medical perspective where IVF would have to be used over Invocell. Does anyone here know that answer?
First off, again, I'm an investor as well so I never said Invocell is inherently inferior to traditional lab IVF, and am confident the INVOcell will be successful in the populations I mentioned.
That being said, if my wife and I are any representation of the potential customers we are discussing, the biggest advantage traditional IVF has over INVOcell is the most precious commodity we all have, time.
She is nearing the age where there are increased risks and there is no guarantee of fertilization with Invocell. Granted the success rate does look pretty good but why would we opt into less guaranteed method when we have sufficient insurance coverage so that cost is not a factor for the traditional route.
Of course all the opinion of my family and our doctor, just offering my perspective.
Will INVOcell replace IVF completely?
There are certain situations that INVO does not fit as a solution. That is why there have been criteria for the INVOcell trials so it is obvious that INVOcell will not work for 100% of the infertility cases out there, so will it replace IVF completely? short answer...NO.
Besides, traditional IVF labs did not spend all that money just to throw away their investment and switch to INVOcell.
INVOcell was never meant, I don't believe, to take over the IVF industry. Rather, it was seen as providing an option for those who could not afford traditional IVF and thereby make fertility an option for those who could not afford the full cost. So it wasn't seen as replacing but rather opening up a market that could not otherwise afford IVF. However, if couples opt for a lower cost option, all the better.
Now the proof of this is that traditional full service IVF clinics are signing up for that very reason. If INVOcell was meant to completely takeover you wouldn't see this occurring. INVOcell provides an additional revenue stream since these customers would not have moved forward without this lower-cost option. So why not come on board? Makes perfect sense.
So the full IVF clinics add it as a lower cost option and then there is of course TCART in Canada which made it an additional cost option for those seeking the "natural" experience. Seems like a dumb thing to do but maybe the people that go there already have a connection with this clinic and don't have a problem paying more for this option. It's a one-off clinic, no big deal. Think of it like those customers who would buy Sony just for the name, go figure.
Maybe they rethink that strategy when the INVO-only clinics start to rollout. Of course I'm referring to the first partnership with Effortless IVF in Canada. They are doing INVOcell only (which again does not address 100% of infertility cases). This group led by Jason Broome have been involved with INVOcell for a looooong time and have made a strategic investment in its success. They have now said that they plan up to 12 clinics over time which is great news for INVO Bio.
I doubt that Effortless IVF will be the only clinics to rollout in this manner. There will be others where IVF is a geographic challenge. The ability to open a clinic with a much lower investment is a perfect option for obgyn's or those looking to repeat the Effortless IVF model.
Anyway, all this is to agree that while INVOcell can carve a significant chunk of the IVF market, it certainly wont replace ALL of the traditional IVF market.
also you refer to premium choice being IVF. What makes you think that. What I have read lists invocell advantages over IVF in addition to being half the cost. I haven't read any IVF advantages over Invocell. Also the FDA does not approve a company to introduce a new product that is inferior to the current standard of care. It must show statistically significant improvement. This is all IMHO based on my DD.
comments welcome
I disagree. I agree IVF is well entrenched because it has been the only option. But with the Invocell matching the quality of IVF at half the price, why do you not think that insurance companies will eventually require that the less expensive option is used just like they do with generic drugs over name brands when available? It will get down to the clinic that offers it. So far it is looking like IVF clinics are agreeing to also offer Invocell. If you are the Dr, and after you are trained and have developed confidence with invocell, at some point you will have a preference on which to offer based on how easy to use, results, price, etc. Right now your doc can't offer it yet, but a year from now he might be pushing everyone towards it. Tell me why the Invocell can not overtake IVF eventually, 5 yrs, 10 yrs or so down the road?
I'd say replacing is a BIG stretch. Starting to get some in the industry interested, sure.
Coincidentally my wife and I are currently seeing a fertility doctor so I asked whether he had heard of INVOcell and if so what his take was. I was pleased to hear he was familiar with it and had followed some of the recent updates so at the least it has hit those circles here in Chicago.
He went on to share his opinion that although it may prove to be a very impactful product for developing nations and underinsured parents he doesn't see it making any dent into the existing IVF market which consists mostly of sufficiently insured couples looking for the premium option which for the foreseeable future will still be lab based procedures.
Again INVOcell competes on price so can it make an impact in the groups I mentioned earlier? Sure. (hence why I am long) but will it become a new standard of care, definitely not. It's also worth noting that cost of traditional IVF has been on a steady decline.
Just trying to help manage expectations GLTA
IVOB Invocell replacing IVF as we speak. IVF market expected to reach over 20Bil by 2020. Do your own DD and all IMHO. I think those buying right now will do very well in this investment.
INVO to present: American Society for Reproductive Medicine
https://www.asrm.org/ASRM2016/
I think you're spot on with the origin of this surge on volume. Looking forward to seeing all the action.
increased volume precedes price appreciation. yesterdays volume was about 7x the avg, and we have the big conference unveiling less than a week away so I think that's the reason. I'm expecting a nice steady pps rise now. GLTA longs and newbies catching the bottom here. All IMHO
6thcents, the volume is picking up today ahead of the conference. I believe investors are researching the attendees and discovering IVOB for the first time.
someone posted on yahoo another new site has started offering the invocell. It is an existing IVF clinic that now also offers invocell. long IVOB, glta longs
keep it real folks, sure it may happen but not "soon"
bb, I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Just look at the reqs, it will take some time to achieve those.
Patience is key here, this is a long-term proposition.
I agree. Won't it be great to hear Cramer say "Buy, Buy, Buy!!" when it hits the Nasdaq soon?
Big conference only 1 week away now. IVOB's invocell pretty much gets unveiled there. Exciting times ahead, all IMHO
The safest way to climb!!
IVOB ran from .40 to 1.49 almost instantly on FDA approval a year ago, and now they are quickly deploying the invocell all over the place. I think it will turn out to be an amazing buying opp down here again as the pps starts climbing as IVOB grows. I expect a long steady continual climb here. All IMHO and GLTU
the best part here is they already have FDA approval and the invocell is being adopted and sites growing like wildfire, so its really just a matter of sitting back and watching just how fast the company can grow. Unlike other bio's that are living and dying on their next trial results (of which I own many of those too). This appears to be a very safe and promising investment, all IMHO
I am too! All we need for the whales to jump on now is the Financials. Smooth sailing and easy uplisting from there.
I'm impressed by the number of sites now offering the invocell listed on their website, as well as the international expansion. I am much more impressed with the management team now than I had been in the past. They don't put out fluff PR's, they seem to be working hard every day to get more sites up and running with the invocell. The conference exposure could more than double the sites IMO.
agree. looks like now is the perfect time to get in here.
Oh I haven't stopped throwing my money at this thing. Big things coming to those of us with enough foresight and patience. GLTY!
shorthound, do you agree that IVOB will likely plan on uplisting to the nasdaq soon (after financials are up to date of course), now that they are growing at a pretty fast clip? Seems like the logical next step. Maybe a 1st half 2017 timeframe?
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The Economist-Oct 25, 2014 IT IS not quite do-it-yourself IVF, but it is close. An INVOcell, brainchild of Claude Ranoux of INVO Bioscience, in Medford, Massachusetts, is a device that allows ... | |
The 'champagne cork' mini incubator that could halve cost of IVFDaily Mail-Oct 22, 2014 In a pilot study, women treated using the INVOcell device were just as likely to ... INVO Bioscience hopes to have the device on sale in the US by the end of this ... | |
Mini 'body incubator' may halve cost of IVFIndependent Online-Nov 4, 2014 In a pilot study of 33 infertile women, those treated using the INVOcell ... INVO Bioscience hopes to have the device on sale in the US by the end of this year. | |
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