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I found this Company Overview
Crowncorp Investment Corporation engages in exploration, development, smelting, refining, safety, environmental protection, product stewardship, recycling, and research. Additionally, the company purchases, and sells petroleum, petroleum derivatives, and commodities. Crowncorp Investment Corporation was founded in 2007 and is based in Sugar Land, Texas.
9702 Deverell Drive
Sugar Land, TX 77498-5110
United States
Founded in 2007
No problem, I was confused by it too. There is just not much of an internet presence for CrownCorp Investments. Considering the owners' real calling in life (a ministry), I just don't see these folks having the background, connections or resources to plunk down $10 million. And, considering Hondo's history of fraudulent claims regarding their "mine", I assume the worst with this as well.
Regardless, tomorrow will be interesting and some folks will make some money this week if they time things right. The insiders, of course.
Your right my mistake there.
Wrong. Try again. Try CrownCorp Investments Corporation this time.
If this is the kind of info you base your investments on, well.....
I am still looking for any evidence that CrownCorp Investments has any ability to buy out Hondo. Maybe it is a faithbased "bank instrument". Check out the owner of Crown Corp Investments......http://davidokumgba.org/4401/4485.html
What's the third chat board? Thanks in advance, please point the way, and I will be all over it.....
No, nothing personal with Hondo. Just don't like frauds.
Yes Crown Investments is a viable company that employees 16 people..from Manta Website for small buisness info of which I am a memeber BTY>>More Details for Crown Investments International
Crown Investments International in Houston, TX is a private company categorized under Copying and Duplicating Service. Our records show it was established in 1997 and incorporated in Texas. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $1,200,000 and employs a staff of approximately 16. >>>The link to this info in red is http://www.manta.com/c/mm54kr5/crown-investments-international Now if Hondo was able to get equity financing for over a million dollars then I am sure the property must be worth a lot since thats how they have financed this all along.A originator would not loan on shares alone that much money unless there was a viable source of ability to back it up with some sort of collateral-being a co signer,or in this case the prospect there is Quote~(Gold in them thar hills)
It may be a while to sort this all out. That "bank instrument" is a giveaway in this deal. Can mean a lot of things, but most likely means that the $10 million simply doesn't exist. Crown Corp Investments probably doesn't have $10 in their accounts, let alone $10 million.
By the way, have you seen any proof that Crown Corps is a viable company (other than the BS in the PR). I haven't......
Got your post marked my friend lols.It will be interesting to say the least~; )
If anyone is stupid enough to pay $85 million for Hondo's pile of crap, I will not only stop posting on this board, but issue an apology. Anything is possible....but some things are highly unlikely.
Promise me that if the deal goes through you will say you were sorely wrong and do not know what your talking about obviously.
It could. Plenty of gullible folks out there who think a buyout is actually happening. And then Hondo will crash, and everybody will wonder what happened.....
Hondo Minerals will explode Monday watch and see
You believe that PR from 2011?? Well, fast forward to 2013 and Hondo has sold off much of the equipment on the property, and ADEQ has issued them a Notice of Violation for illegally disturbing historic tailings without benefit of an Aquifer Protection Permit.
Any investor buying Hondo's assets will have to deal with a multi-year, very expensive permitting process whether they do any "processing" or not. Hondo has opened up Pandora's box.
It says the plant is FUNCTIONING
That "plant" can't process their own material, let alone material from other mines. They failed to produce an ounce of gold in three years of dicking around and watching their stock price drop by 98%. However, they did succeed in getting a Notice of Violation from the State of Arizona Department of Environmental Quality which prevents them from doing any processing until they get an Aquifer Protection Permit. Not only does their process not work, but they cannot legally operate it.
Hondo has no assets in the million ton tailings pile, just a huge liability. They do own the Tennessee Mine, but it was mined out in the 1940's. No value there either, sorry.
As for Crown Corp Investments - well, it is managed by a husband and wife team of Nigerian preachers in Houston (Margaret and David O. Okumgba) whose claim to fame is running a ministry for the local Nigerian community. They live in a $100K house. C'mon....... $10 million dollars came from these guys....????
10 mill is not a lot when considering they also have a processing plant there also>>http://www.mining.com/hondo-minerals-to-start-up-processing-facility-at-tennessee-mine/ Got to look at the big picture.Processing facelities are not cheap and also make revenue processing other mines/companys minerals at a price.From the PR>>>>>>Mr. Miertschin continues to say, "We are excited that Crowncorp recognizes the value of Hondo's assets both the in-ground and our processing technology, and that Hondo and its shareholders can receive that value."
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/05/02/5389303/hondo-minerals-corporation-enters.html#storylink=cpy
Because it's all BS, and $10 Million sounds more impressive than $1.6 million. Does anybody really think $10 million changed hands.....?? Would any investor be stupid enough to throw that kind of money at this fraud of a mining company?
Regardless, look for a price bounce on Monday before management starts dumping shares they awarded themselves back in March. Last gasp ploy to bleed more money out of folks before they disappear into the night, leaving behind an environmental mess for taxpayers to clean up.
"Tennesee Mine Tailings Superfund Site" - has a nice ring to it! Chloride will finally have a real industry in town, keeping the EPA's consultants (geologists, engineers, toxicologists, etc.)housed and fed for the next decade.
I am mystified as to why "a $10 Million USD bank instrument" was provided when only $1,600,000 was required with an additional $1,600,000 by May 31st. Any ideas or explanation?
Deposit is in. News is out.
Yep. Per 8K/A. Monday...we wait. HMNC
first round deposit is to be paid by May 10, 2013
Hey, let's not confuse the issue with logic. ;/
Hondo management has not been honest about anything else, what makes you think they are afraid of bending a few SEC rules?
When You file SEC reports, it makes you subject to prosecution by the Feds if you make false statements. Why take that risk if you just want to pump the pps?
A binding letter of intent does not mean the deal has happened, or guarantee that it will happen. It is simply a ploy by Hondo to raise interest in the stock.
Which brings me right to your third point - why were insiders "buying" stock? Well, if you had a chance to buy cheap stock, knowing that a pump was coming, wouldn't it be nice to have some stock to dump at the right time (like today). And how do we know that any money really changed hands?
As to the E-Leach process - it is garbage, doesn't work, and unsubstantiated "interest" by a Chinese company that nobody has ever heard of is meaningless.
1. Isn't there a vast difference between having a completely unsubstantiated claim that one's company is a "prime buyout target" and having a binding letter of intent with another company that is buying you out?
2. Why is GAL Resources interested in the E Leach Technology if it is a scam?
3. Why did CFO Christopher Larson purchase 60000 shares for 4500 on 3/25/13 and Michael Grosbereg purchase 4300000 shares for $645000
on 3/6/13 if it is a scam?
List of red flags regarding mining scams from FINRA:
http://www.finra.org/Investors/ProtectYourself/InvestorAlerts/FraudsAndScams/P124119
Here's one red-flag warning sign of a mining scam with direct and timely relevance to Hondo:
References to being a “buyout target” for other mining companies. One company claiming gold reserves valued at more than $112 billion declared in an Internet promotion that it was a “PRIME BUYOUT TARGET” at a buyout price that was 15 to 35 times its current value, which was around a dollar.
Speculative claims based on a new reserve’s proximity to an existing reserve. A company recently stated in one of its promotional materials that its mining property could be worth “billions in unrecovered gold” based “on the success of its neighbors.” Without more information, such an assertion amounts to little more than idle speculation.
What 43-101 report? What are you talking about? A 43-101 report is not appropriate for Hondo as they are an American company trading on a SEC-regulated stock exchange.
As for a "spat", there is nothing personal here. I just don't like frauds and liars in the mining business. Hondo is just one example of many fake mining companies currently operating in Arizona, and have successfully bilked investors out of millions.
Also, I really try to avoid ridiculing individuals on this board. Everybody has a right to speak their mind and I respect that. However, if someone spouts BS about a subject I do know something about, I will argue the point.
Clarification: Anyone who doesnt agree with your official "n-43-101" compliant reserves report or your spat with Hondo has got to be an idiot and subject to further ridicule. Have I got this correct?
Crowncorp Investment Corporation has a location in Houston, TX. Active officers include Dominic G'Benoba, Margaret Okumgba and David O. Okumgba. Crowncorp Investment Corporation filed as a Domestic For-Profit Corporation on Friday, May 04, 2007 in the state of Texas and is currently active.
Filings: Domestic For-Profit Corporation (TX - Active)
State of Record: TX
State Reference ID: 800811030
File Date: Friday, May 04, 2007
Active: True
Filing Type: Domestic For-Profit Corporation
Source: Texas Secretary of State last refreshed 3/13/2013
Look at the owners of Crown Corp. They are a successful group of Nigerians who have made money in oil and gas exploration and mining ventures. They can afford Hondo's asking price.
Maybe you need to clarify your point. If you are saying the Tennessee/Schuykill patents are valuable because Mercator has an operating (and legitimate) copper mine a couple miles away, that is not a valid argument. There is a huge difference between a mined-out vein deposit, and large copper/moly porphyry system.
Considering that there is a large pile of toxic tailings on the Tennessee/Schuykill properties, and you actually have negative value. Anybody buying that property could have the responsibility of cleaning it up (if Hondo were to disappear completely), and tailings cleanups are not cheap. There are at least three tailings cleanups that I know of in Arizona (Iron King, Klondyke, Hassayampa) that have cost taxpayers millions so far. Google them, and you will see what it takes to clean up a tailings pile.
No, this "buyout" is a smokescreen and nobody would spend $88 million for a group of mining claims that were sold to Hondo cheaply a few years ago for peanuts. Enjoy the brief spike in stock price.
I think ive made my point on seeing the true "mineral" value of the "Tennesse-Schukyll" patented mines , not clouded by the corparate dealings of Hondo.
What are you talking about? Nigerian? The acquirer is US based
You got me - I do have an agenda! I don't like frauds and liars (Hondo).
You're comparing Mercator to Hondo? Wow.....
Gitreal, you do seem to have a agenda or vendetta here, agreed Nigerians = questionable 88 mil = questionable, but worthless?
You may want to call Mercator Minerals next door as they continue excavate into oblivion a existing mountain named Sherems Peak and continue to deepen and widen thier pit. Just tell them you have deemed them also as worthless mining claims...
Maybe some folks are seeing it as an opportunity to get out while they can....!
A buyout by a group of Nigerian investors - how ironic! I wonder who is scamming who this time? Who in their right mind would pay that kind of money for a group of worthless mining claims, a toxic pile of tailings, and a very serious (and still open) environmental violation with the State? A pile of lead and arsenic-contaminated tailings, with documented groundwater contamination is nothing a sane person would want a part of. Even if there were economic levels of gold in the tailings (and there aren't), it would be next to impossible to permit as a legitimate mining operation.
Now trading seems halted at 0.19. Volume nearly 0, for last hour! What gives?
On a normal day that would be unsurprising. But this is a 2 million day.
Now seeing some volume go through at 18-17. Bottom line, I guess, is that someone stopped buying.
Existing shareholders may be a bit nervous since we've been here before. Also, some traders taking profits. Many people haven't heard news yet. Price spike today will draw attention but it may take a while for news to sink in, confidence in the deal to take hold and pps to reach $.50+.
Why is it languishing at $0.22 right now? Lots of people glad to get out at 0.22?
Back-of-the-envelope, I'd agree that the eventual cash settlement should be north of 0.50. The market should discount that for uncertainty, but even so, I'd think it would chew through the 0.20s (into 0.30s) fairly quick. Why isn't it?
I wonder if they knew something we didn't? So much for losses, huh? Crazy! HMNC
Agreed. PPS could go as high as $.65 but $.50+ might be fair prior to close of deal.
After debt, north of 50 cents per share? HMNC
Other than the 98% drop in share price from its high point, why do you think it is a scam and when did you figure it out? Just curious.....
I agree it was a well develped Scam. They had a lot of people fooled "including" myself and some dear friends of mine.
Very sad about the work ethic, values, and morals here.
I guess I do have a bee in my bonnet over these guys. They have lied to investors since Day 1 about the gold in the tailings (or lack thereof), and about their joke of a gold recovery system. And the amount of compensation they have paid themselves is outrageous for a company that has never produced an ounce of gold.
What is your take on them?
maybe it isn't as bad as gitreal thinks... gitreal has BEE in his bonet over these guys.
Grossberg bought 4.3 million shares on 03/06/13 for $645,000 at $.15/share (the previous day's high). The shares have not sold higher than $.14/share on any day since. He's not listed as an officer but as a 10% owner. Larson, the CFO, spent $5,400 for 60,000 shares on 3/25/13. The pps reached a high of $.092/share on that day but haven't been that high since. These guys are looking at big time losses right now.
I see it now on EDGAR, thanks!
Grosberg - 300,000 shares (free), 4.3 million shares at 7 cents
Headen - 960,000 shares (free)
Miertschin - 1.26 million shares (free)
Botello - 60,000 shares (free)
Larson - 60,000 shares at 11 cents
So, most of the shares were free ("compensation"). The others were at the prevailing share price, but how do we know the money really changed hands?
Regardless, Hondo is on its last legs. They have no gold to show for several years of testing and running tailings through their fake plant. They have an open NOV with ADEQ that will prevent them from running any more tailings until they have the appropriate mining permits (it will never happen).
It hasn't posted on the Hondo site yet but you can see the fillings at:
SEC Edgar Search Results
Make sure to check the button to include "Ownership" if it isn't already checked.
I have my doubts too. But why would a director risk an investment of $645k if he knew there was nothing in Hondo worth buying?
Do you have a link? I don't see any filings today.
And there is nothing real about this company - there is very little gold in the tailings pile, and their proprietary gold extraction process is crap. Actually, there is something real - a State NOV for environmental violations.
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Hondo Minerals
Hondo Minerals Corporation ("Hondo") is engaged in the acquisition and exploration of historically significant, mining claims and mining real estate in North America with mineral reserves primarily consisting of precious metals.
In the fall of 2010, Hondo began construction on the Tennessee Concentration Plant. Late Spring 2011, Hondo is scheduled to begin operations of the metals recovery facility at the Tennessee Mine. The Tennessee Concentration Plant will produce gold, silver, zinc, and other metals. IT IS NOW 2013 - WHERE IS THE GOLD???
Hondo owns a total of 540 acres of mineral rights and an additional 720 acres of minerals claimed. Hondo Minerals Corporation's management will continue to search for new mining properties in North America as well as joint venture opportunities.
Hondo Minerals Corporation began trading in March of 2011 on the OTCBB. Management's goal is to dual list on the American Stock Exchange and the Canadian TSX once the company has qualified for those listings.
Hondo Minerals Corporation Trading Symbol: HMNC
WEBSITE: http://hondominerals.com/
Market Value1 | $16,395,400 | a/o May 05, 2011 |
Shares Outstanding | 36,221,888 | a/o Oct 31, 2010 |
Float | Not Available | |
Authorized Shares | Not Available | |
Par Value | 0.001 |
Shareholders of Record | 41 | a/o Oct 27, 2010 |
Ex. Date | Record Date | Pay Date |
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EXAMPLES OF HONDO PROPAGANDA:
The Tennessee Mine operated from the late 1800′s until 1947 producing gold, silver, lead and zinc. MOSTLY LEAD AND ZINC, MUCH LESS GOLD AND SILVER, WHICH WERE BYPRODUCTS ONLY
With as much as 40% of the historically proven veins intact, the Tennessee Mine offers long range opportunities for continued growth. VERY, VERY LONG RANGE - IT TAKES UP TO 10 YEARS TO PERMIT A NEW UNDERGROUND MINE IN ARIZONA
The Tennessee Mine was the largest producing gold and silver mine in Arizona history. POPPYCOCK! IT WAS A GOOD LEAD AND ZINC PRODUCER, BUT NOT IN THE TOP 20 FOR GOLD OR SILVER PRODUCTION IN ARIZONA
By the end of 1938 the mine had developed numerous workings down hole. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? IT IS AN UNDERGROUND MINE, OF COURSE IT HAD WORKINGS DOWN HOLE.
Future prospects were set for development.
In 1942 The United States Government issues the "Gold Closing Order". Gold is not considered "essential" to the war efforts and gold mining is made illegal in the United States.
2011, 64 years later our assets include one million tons of mineral rich tailings on the surface, Hondo Minerals Corporation owns 540 acres of Mineral Rights & an additional 720 acres claimed or pending. NO PROOF THAT THERE IS ANY GOLD IN THE TAILINGS WORTH PROCESSING.
With as much as 40% of the historically proven Gold and Silver underground veins intact, the Tennessee Mine offers long range opportunities for continued growth in addition to process its tailings. NOPE, MANY YEARS TO EXPLORE AND PERMIT AN UNDERGROUND MINE.
Early independent testing has shown the Tennessee Mine has approximately a million tons of tailings and dump material that can produce 1 oz. to 3 oz. gold and about 33 oz. of silver per ton using our exclusive technology above ground. TOTAL GARBAGE - THE TAILINGS HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO HAVE GOLD AT 0.020 OZ/TON (AT BEST) - THIS IS INFORMATION OBTAINED BY HONDO'S OWN CONSULTANT, HOWARD METZLER, AND BACKED UP BY HISTORIC PRODUCTION RECORDS AVAILABLE AT THE ARIZONA GEOLOGICAL SURVEY
In addition the Tennessee Mine has as much as 40% of the historically proven veins intact underground, the Tennessee Mine offers long range opportunities for continued growth through its underground reserves.
The Tennessee Mine was the largest producing gold and silver mine in Arizona history. BULL! NOT EVEN CLOSE!
Tailings Samples
Samples for the Tennessee Mine tailings were collected by certified geologist Howard Metzler of Kayzak Resources. Fourteen (14) total samples were collected from various locations from the Tennessee dump and tailings pile.
Assays from American Assay, a Canadian certified lab in Reno, Nevada, were returned on March 18, 2010. Calculations were confirmed by certified Geologist Howard Metzler on March 19, 2010. Results showed free gold and gold from sulfides when concentrated for further purification leading to a yield of 1.7 oz of gold per ton. WRONG. HIS RESULTS AVERAGED ABOUT 0.020 OZ/TON, AND HONDO WON'T RELEASE THE REPORT.
Due to the unique (?) nature of silicates such as clay and heavy Galena concentrations, a plan is under design to switch to a leaching system for the Tennessee tailings. Precious metal recovery during gravity float showed to be around the 45% - 50% level while leach based recovery is expected to return 93% - 95% of precious metals.
Environmentally Friendly Mining YEA RIGHT! HONDO HAS BEEN ISSUED NUMEROUS NOTICES OF VIOLATION BY THE STATE OF ARIZONA, WHICH HAVE NOT ALL BEEN ADDRESSED. IN PARTICULAR, THEY NEED AN AQUIFER PROTECTION PERMIT BEFORE OPERATING AGAIN, WHICH TYPICALLY TAKE SEVERAL YEARS.
Using a new patent pending process (BS) that creates a leaching type process without the use of hazardous chemicals such as cyanide
Toxic chemicals previously used such as Hydrochloric and Nitric Acid are replaced with a water-based and pH adjusted medium to leach precious and base metals from mine tailings that is safe to humans and the environment.
Chemical and electrochemical processes are used to generate pH levels low enough to leach metals such as Gold, Silver, Zinc and Rare Earths into a solution for recovery at an extremely low cost per ton.
A major advantage to this proprietary leach process is the ability to selectively drop metals inherent to the ore, thereby reducing such processing complications such as zinc impregnation in silver.
Hondo owns the Tennessee and Schuylkill Mines in the Wallapai Mining District near Chloride, Mohave County, Arizona. The Tennessee Mine operated from the late 1800′s until 1947 producing lead, zinc, gold and silver. The Tennessee Mine includes a 750,000-ton tailings pile and is adjacent to the Schuylkill Mine.
Hondo also owns 24 mining claims in the Cripple Creek, Teller County, Colorado area. However, the properties are not in operation at this time.
Hondo owns another 80-acre patented mining claim in Juab County, Utah known as the Sullivan Lode and 9 unpatented mining claims in Iron County, Utah referred to as War Eagle. Again, neither site is in operation at this time.
List of Current Mining Properties:
Patented Mining Claims: | Non-Patented BLM Claims: |
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