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Hey...tis the season, both for profits and losses.
Just a bump in the road.. C'mon man! have some faith..
I'm also watching it with interest. Might take a quarterly earning or two to get coverage. That in turn could give a buying opportunity if it falls another 10-20% simply from disinterest and some year-end tax harvesting.
Very interesting to see this one start so bullish to open and closed down hard today.
This is almost one of those no brainer stocks.. Hilton has name recognition, been around forever.. (They are the definition of OLD MONEY), 2nd largest hotel chain in the world.. and if you look at all the other hotels that they would be compared to, all are trading near twice what the stock came in at during the IPO. This is where the money has to be at this year because every good stock that was worth anything is up dbl to triple digits from DEC. 2012 - Dec 2013. My new stocks with opportunity over 2014, HLT,ARMK,TWTR, NMBL, and AMC. I own the first two.
This IPO was a little more tame than I expected...the market's mood didn't help though. Still expect this to gain as 2014's economy improvements will bring with it more travel & tourism. And Blackstone still has a huge stake in this company, which they want to see grow in value. Financials will be strong.
Like a few of you out there, I did not get my allocation, so I've decided to watch this for a little while. I'll buy in on a dip.
They are back public for cash.. they will catch up real fast and I kinda like Paris as their mascot. they should have a night in Paris special. Every guest gets a free blonde. lol. Or call the best room at the hotel.. "The Paris" that way you can really have a night in Paris.. haha.. but no worries.. Hilton will be middle of the pack.. that means low to mid $40's..
But they're not the most innovative and certainly not the most modern...need to do a lot of renovations with that IPO cash for pps to reach those heights IMO
Got in.. 700 @ 21.675.. Makes sense... Hilton is the 2nd largest hotel chain in the world. #3. Marriott trading @ $46, #4. Wyndham trading @ $70 and Hyatt trading @ $47. Hilton has better name recognition and more hotels than the rest of this list.. They should slowly rise to at least low $40 range..
Got some Aramark ARMK today too. Those people that serve you the food at banquets.. I remember them from my college football days.. they always did a good job and were everywhere.
I'M in HLT for a little Hilton love. ;)
Good God I know someone that could buy this whole Company!
Damn sorry guys. Anyone planning on getting in when it opens?
Had an IOI with Fidelity for 1000 shares. Received none.
Haha good one! I doubt an ipo like this will be as volatile as some of the other IPOs this year, especially the tech ones. But as always, WDIK?
Not sure how hotels fair after IPOing...they seems to have cleaned up their act and having real assets doesn't hurt their cause. Will monitor it hoping Paris Hilton doesn't come out with another sex tape lol
I don't believe that orders will "not be filled" if they are to large. I think that meant that if there was more demand than supply @ the brokerage; your order may be reduced, not rejected.
I'm in! Can't wait, I'd be happy with 23+ and probably will sell 30+.
Hilton Agrees to Price IPO at $20 a Share, Sources Say
4:15 PM ET 12/11/13 | Dow Jones
By Matt Jarzemsky
Hilton Worldwide Holdings Inc. has agreed to price its initial public offering at $20 a share, according to people familiar with the deal.
The hotelier also is looking to a "modest" increase in the number of shares that will be sold, one of the people said. Hilton had forecast a sale of 112.8 million shares for $18 to $21 each, according to a regulatory filing.
The deal is slated to be among the largest in the U.S. so far this year. It follows Blackstone Group LP's (BX) buyout of the company in 2007. Blackstone will remain Hilton's larger shareholder after the offering.
Finalized terms for the offering were expected to be released later Wednesday afternoon. Hilton is slated to begin trading on the New York Stock Exchange Thursday under the symbol "HLT."
A Hilton representative declined to comment.
--Craig Karmin contributed to this article.
Write to Matt Jarzemsky at matthew.jarzemsky@wsj.com
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Can you post on the board when we are allowed to accept the set price?
$HLT - TODAY, DECEMBER 11, 2013
3:58 PM ET Final Hilton IPO Terms Expected Wednesday After Close >HTL
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3:57 PM ET Hilton Agrees To Price IPO At $20 A Share-Source
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3:57 PM ET Hilton Looking At 'Modest' Increase In Number Of Shares To Be Sold--Source >HTLDow Jones
3:50 PM ET Hilton IPO Reportedly Prices at $20 -Bloomberg TV
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Is anyone else out there following this board?
Ok I understand. Keep me posted if you can anymore messages from fidelity.
I could not get a clear answer on the quantity request questions from fidelity.
Jmb,
I noticed in that invoice from fidelity it said you may not be given your shares if you request too many.. You think that's a pro for me? I can only afford 200 shares, I'm somewhat small time investor. I'm thinking 200 shares is a smaller demand.
From Fidelity just now:
Issuer: Hilton Worldwide Holdings Inc.
Offering: Hilton Worldwide Holdings Inc. Common Stock IPO
The registration statement for Hilton Worldwide Holdings Inc. Common Stock IPO is expected to be declared effective and the offering to be priced this evening, December 11, 2013. The confirmation is expected to occur between 7:00 pm ET and 12:00 am ET this evening. Allocation will not occur prior to 12:00 am ET tonight. We will send you a separate notice of effectiveness/pricing and a request for confirmation of indication of interest.
To be eligible for an allocation of shares in this offering, you MUST confirm your indication of interest through Fidelity.com after effectiveness and pricing. Confirmed indications are orders to buy and may be accepted in whole, or in part, or not at all by Fidelity Brokerage Services LLC. Confirming your indication of interest does not guarantee you an allocation of shares in the offering. Fidelity may not receive enough shares to meet the customer demand on the offering, which means not all Fidelity customers attempting to participate will receive an allocation, particularly when demand for shares is significant. If you confirmed your indication of interest but decide that you do not want to purchase the shares, you must withdraw your confirmed indication prior to allocation.
A registration statement relating to these securities has been filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission but has not yet become effective. These securities may not be sold nor may offers to buy be accepted prior to the time the registration statement becomes effective. No offer to buy the securities can be accepted and no part of the purchase price can be received until the registration statement has become effective, and any such offer may be withdrawn or revoked, without obligation or commitment of any kind, at any time prior to notice of its acceptance given after the effective date.
Please check the electronic device you have registered with Fidelity Alerts or prompt #2 of (800) 544-5631 for updates on the offering. Fidelity Brokerage Services LLC Member NYSE SIPC.
I'm with Scwaub, and they usually don't accept you in the ipo unless they have enough shares. But who knows. I really hope I get my shares because I had to sell some stocks to get the funds for this trade.
According to Fidelity Premium Services rep, yes. He did not know how many shares Fidelity would get to allocate. Said they would know allocation quantities today when it's priced at the market close.
So we might go through all this and not even get any shares?
Here is what I got from Fidelity:
Issuer: Hilton Worldwide Holdings Inc.
Offering: Hilton Worldwide Holdings Inc. Common Stock IPO
The registration statement for Hilton Worldwide Holdings Inc. Common Stock IPO is NOW expected to be declared effective and the offering to be priced Wednesday evening, December 11, 2013. The confirmation is expected to occur [between 7:00 pm ET and 12:00 am ET Wednesday evening. Allocation [will not occur prior to 12:00 am ET Wednesday. We will send you a separate notice of effectiveness/pricing and a request for confirmation of indication of interest.
To be eligible for an allocation of shares in this offering, you MUST confirm your indication of interest through Fidelity.com after effectiveness and pricing. Confirmed indications are orders to buy and may be accepted in whole, or in part, or not at all by Fidelity Brokerage Services LLC. Confirming your indication of interest does not guarantee you an allocation of shares in the offering. Fidelity may not receive enough shares to meet the customer demand on the offering, which means not all Fidelity customers attempting to participate will receive an allocation, particularly when demand for shares is significant. If you confirmed your indication of interest but decide that you do not want to purchase the shares, you must withdraw your confirmed indication prior to allocation.
A registration statement relating to these securities has been filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission but has not yet become effective. These securities may not be sold nor may offers to buy be accepted prior to the time the registration statement becomes effective. No offer to buy the securities can be accepted and no part of the purchase price can be received until the registration statement has become effective, and any such offer may be withdrawn or revoked, without obligation or commitment of any kind, at any time prior to notice of its acceptance given after the effective date.
Please check the electronic device you have registered with Fidelity Alerts or prompt #2 of (800) 544-5631 for updates on the offering. Fidelity Brokerage Services LLC Member NYSE SIPC.
At least that's what my online trading system says. It might trade public ally Thursday, but it seems like there's some confusion.
I believe it will be priced for sure tmrw, and it will trade publicly on Friday
Interesting... nasdaq still has it as Friday. Maybe not updated yet?
http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/ipos/
Anyways, do we know what time the IPO will happen?
Thursday...it got moved up. Commitment confirmations go out tomorrow evening. The press release I saw said it was moved up due to "strong interest" - not sure what that means.
It will. And by Thursday the COTP will be closed and it will make everyone excited for the ipo day. It IPOs Friday?
I trade through Fidelity...don't yet know of there will be a holding period or penalty, will find out tomorrow.
I am a little surprised at the lack of buzz...expected a few analysts to pick it up this week...maybe that will happen on Thursday?
I believe your referring to the conditional offering to purchase pre sale of HLT. (COTP) and I'm in that too. It's the best way to maximize profits and minimize risk if you want to stay long a stock. I believe with my brokerage I get fined a certain % if I sell my shares before 30 days of the ipo. But I'm not worried about that Hilton should have a successful ipo. Not too much chatter about it either and based off other IPOs the quiet IPOs make the best jump opening day
Well I have submitted the reservation or whatever it's called...Fidelity will let me know tomorrow night my allocation. But yes I intend to buy in.
Financials look great...strong brand...this should be received well by the market. I just don't love the equity liquidation that already occurred. In the long run it won't matter.
I'm in on the ipo yes. I'm hoping we get a pop to 26 and I'll hold onto the juggernaut until it's 30+. Are you in the ipo? I'm hoping they don't raise the price tmrw past 21.
Hi jld... Glad I see a posting here. I've reviewed the financials on this and the only thing I don't like is negative SH equity. But great profits and portfolio and well positioned globally. This is a business that's easy to understand and I think the PPS prospects are very good. I'm planning to participate in the initial offering.
Any price targets out there yet?
These giant stocks usually have a pop on opening day, and Cramer thinks it's a buy at $26. I'm liking this IPO.
GLTA
Hilton Says It Plans to Raise Up to $2.4 Billion in I.P.O.
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/12/02/hilton-says-it-plans-to-raise-up-to-2-4-billion-in-i-p-o/?_r=0
how can one buy?? what do you think of this potential?
Hilton to list its shares on NYSE
By By The Associated Press November 27, 2013
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2013-11-27/hilton-to-list-its-shares-on-nyse
Hotel operator Hilton Worldwide Holdings Inc. disclosed Wednesday that once it goes public, it plans to list its shares on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol "HLT."
The company said in September that it plans to raise $1.25 billion from an initial public offering of its common stock. The company said it plans to use the offering's net proceeds to pay back some of its debt. Any remaining funds will be used for general corporate purposes.
Hilton has not disclosed how many shares would be offered, the anticipated price range or when the offering might occur.
VIDEO: Blackstone's Hilton May Boost Offering to $2.25B
The McLean, Va.-based company has 4,041 hotels, resorts and timeshare properties. Its brands include Hilton Hotels & Resorts, Waldorf Astoria Hotels & Resorts, and Hampton Inn.
Hilton was taken private by the investment firm The Blackstone Group in October 2007 for $20 billion.
need to do homework on it, been off my list. One day I'll look it up. too busy now
cheers
hope all is well.
why no bid/ask on this one?
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