Hillsborough Resources (HLB)

[02opida]

Hi rruff & mick.....you gotta have sweet tooth Here
:)

[mick]

yes, our S.A.D. our both. do carry the canadian symbol. canadians like this networking stuff with their markets.

#msg-8669419

you will find out the canadian market makers don't have a dicker pps.

we buy at the ask, sell on the bid. that is their trading with their market makers. very honest in my opinion.

[rrufff]

Mick and others who have more experience with managing boards. Should I put the Canadian symbol on the board header HLB or the pink sheet US symbol of HLSRF??

tia

[rrufff]

Thanks stock prof - appreciate it.

Noticed that there has been some insider buying on this as the stock was at lows. Usually, that it is a good sign, that management believes that the price is going to go up.

Hillsborough Resources (Hillsborough Resources Limited) As of November 28th, 2005
Filing Date Transaction Date Insider Name Nature of transaction Securities # or value acquired or disposed of Unit Price
Nov 26/05 Nov 25/05 Smith, Craig Charles 10 - Acquisition in the public market Common Shares 2,400 $1.080
Nov 23/05 Nov 16/05 Fawcett, David Albert 10 - Acquisition in the public market Common Shares 10,000 $1.020
Nov 23/05 Nov 03/05 Fawcett, David Albert 10 - Acquisition in the public market Common Shares 5,000 $1.170
Nov 01/05 Oct 27/05 Fawcett, David Albert 10 - Acquisition in the public market Common Shares 11,000 $1.200

[mick]

Sector Watch: Worst performing sector -Coal- finding a bid in recent trade :Seeing several names in today's weakest group finding some buying interest off of their late morning lows (ACI -2.22, BTU -3.28, MEE -1.16, BHP -0.32, CNX -0.81).

[mick]

RF is top shelf in my book. and a very nice gent.

[stockprof]

It's on my radar :)

[mick]

a read from today for hlsrf. about unchanged with a small gainer pps so far today.

[mick]

hi roguedolphin this HLDRF is a very interesting company going into 2006. i'm excited about the coal inds.

[mick]

this is delayed pps,,,Hillsborough Res Ltd DL (Nov 28 12:50 PM EST)

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[mick]

hi Rf, good afternoon. i like your networking thoughts. thank you. great balls of fire.

[rrufff]

How coal is cleaning up its act
By Mark Kinver
BBC News science and nature reporter



Coal is back on the agenda as a serious player in meeting the world's future energy demands.
After being pushed to one side in the "dash for gas" in the 1990s, attention is returning to the role of coal in the global energy mix because of its widespread availability and stable price.

The recent volatility in the markets for oil and gas, combined with concern of an "energy gap" between rising demand and suppliers' struggle to provide the electricity, has positioned coal as a realistic option - both economically and politically.

Politicians and industry experts hope the development of "clean coal technology" will also make the fuel environmentally acceptable among its climate conscious citizens.

Growing demand

Although coal is often portrayed by environmental groups as a lingering legacy of the age of steam, energy analysts say it would be premature to consign this fossil fuel to the history books.





The latest figures from the International Energy Agency (IEA) project coal use to increase by 1.4% a year until 2030, when annual demand will reach nearly 7.3 billion tonnes - almost one billion tonnes more than present levels.
John Topper, managing director of the agency's Clean Coal Centre, says the growth in demand is being driven by emerging economies.

"If you are in China or India where you have huge resources of coal and you have elements of the population that do not have access to electricity then your driver is to build and operate power stations as quickly and as effectively as possible."


The unprecedented rate that China is building new coal-fired power stations has shifted the debate from should we burn coal, to how?
Clean coal technology (CCT) has entered policy parlance as an umbrella term for all the various strands of research and development to improve the environmental performance of coal-fired plants.

The term is widely used to describe a complete process in which the coal is gasified (i.e. turned into a gas as opposed to the conventional method of burning the coal itself in a combustion boiler), burnt to power a turbine, and the carbon dioxide and other emissions captured for storage away from the atmosphere.

Improving efficiency

This definition of CCT is too narrow and excludes a lot of existing engineering that is reducing coal's impact on the environment, says Mike Farley, director of policy liaison for engineering company Mitsui Babcock.

He says the efficiency of traditional boilers used in coal stations has been steadily improving and can rival the efficiency of gasification plants.


FOSSIL FUEL RESERVES
(Proven reserves based on current production)
Coal: 164 years
Gas: 67 years
Oil: 41 years
(Source: World Coal Institute)

Improving the efficiency of boilers used in coal-fired power stations reduces carbon dioxide emissions because less coal is needed to generate the heat energy that turns the steam turbines powering the electricity generators.
Current systems, called advanced supercritical boilers, have an efficiency level of around 42%. By replacing an old-style boiler, operating at about 30% efficiency with one of the new systems can cut CO2 emissions by 23%, says Mr Farley.

The latest boilers also allow biomass to be added to the fuel mix. Industry figures show that this can reduce emissions by a further 20%.

"If you increase the efficiency of a plant and combine it with biomass/coal firing then you get the emissions down to similar levels as a gas-fired power plant."

Gasification plants and advanced supercritical boilers both have advantages that their advocates are quick to highlight.

Boilers are available commercially and can be "retrofitted" to existing coal-fired plants. This means the operator can improve efficiency while keeping capital costs down by using the existing infrastructure at the site.

Gasification systems, such as Integrated Gasification Combined Cycle (IGCC), can be used for poly-generation. This allows the gas (hydrogen) to be used either to power a gas turbine or to be piped elsewhere, for example in transport or in the chemical industry.

This approach could become a key component role in a future hydrogen economy.


COAL IN CHINA
If we go on building dirty plants... we are committing ourselves to many more decades of further emissions
Chris Flavin, Worldwatch Institute

China, which is extending its electricity generating capacity at a rate never seen before, favours the tried-and-tested supercritical boilers.
"This year I think [China] is going to build around 55GW of power plants and most of them are coal-fired," says Prof Li Zheng, director of the Clean Energy Centre at Beijing's Tsinghua University.

"It is expected that by the year 2020, the total generating capacity will be around 900GW to 1,000GW."

Professor Li says there is an awareness of the environmental impact this will have: "The public's and government officials' knowledge of climate change is increasing.

"But for the current situation in China, I think the action will come down to more efficient power plants. That is a current and practical way."

Climate concern

Locking in this amount of coal-based capacity into the global electricity mix concerns environmentalists, like Chris Flavin, president of the US-based Worldwatch Institute.

Climate scientists are warning that carbon dioxide levels in the Earth's atmosphere are approaching a "tipping point" that will trigger irreversible climate change.


"If we go on building dirty plants between now and 2020, we are basically committing ourselves to many more decades of further emissions from those plants."
Mr Flavin is uncertain about the option of capturing CO2 emissions and storing them deep underground. "It is something that is not being done apart from on a very small pilot scale. You are talking about an extended period to ramp it up."

Most of the industrialised nations are investing a significant amount of money into research and development of clean coal technology. Japan, Australia and the EU all have their own CCT programmes.

The biggest is the US FutureGen programme, a $1bn (£580m) project that is attempting to demonstrate the commercial viability of near-zero emission coal-fuelled power. It will look at integrating an IGCC electricity plant with hydrogen production, carbon dioxide capture and geological storage.

Clear signals

This sort of project should be welcomed, says Michael Cupit, director of energy at Ernst & Young.

"When you go back and look at where we have got to with the gas turbines, which was paid for by the US government under a gas turbine research programme, it was remarkably similar to the one they have launched for clean coal," he told the BBC News website.

However, he says, there is uncertainty about how long it would take for projects like this to become large-scale commercial operations.

"It all depends upon the uptake among the big companies. Once somebody takes the bull by the horns, you can usually squeeze the technology and make it commercial fairly quickly."

Mr Cupit says businesses need clear signals from governments if a suitable level of investment is to be forthcoming.

"One of the problems we face is that there are a lot of piecemeal incentives being offered, he explains.

"What we need to do is to boil it down to the nub of the problem - reducing greenhouse gas emissions."


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/sci/tech/4466040.stm

Published: 2005/11/27 20:04:20 GMT

[rrufff]

I agree with you 100% roguedolphin - I think this is the ideal play in this area - small enough to have a big potential payoff, but big enough to have an established and growing operation.

The past Q talked about some termporary problems in operations that brought the stock down. Inventory accumulated, but again that should be temporary. I think it's an ideal opportunity here.

Plus, if you are US buyer, you get the play on the Canadian currency. If the Canadian currency goes up further, the stock goes up even if the share price hasn't gone up.

[roguedolphin]

Ruff...thanks for starting this board! Hopefully this can become a great place to share knowledge(good as well as bad!) about HILLSBOROUGH.

I'm also a long time market player....buy always have a desire to keep learning something new every day.

Rogue

[roguedolphin]

HLB.To...Good looking chart right here to me. It seems as if it's been accumalated on the recent selloff(note rising CMF). Stochastics are poised to make a run higher.

daily chart:
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=HLB.TO,uu[h,a]daolyyay[pb50!b200!f][vc60][iut!Uc20!Lh14,....

weekly chart:
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=HLB.TO,uu[h,a]waolyyay[pb50!b200!f][vc60][iut!Uc20!Lh14,...

COAL.... Great industry I believe for 2006. Is there a better speculative coal play out there with more "home-run" potential???


I'm pretty much a "bottom-fisher" and have had many big plays over the past 20 years trying to catch THE long-term bottom on interesting stocks. HLB.to seems as if it may in the process or may have made a very tradeable long-term bottom.

Only time will tell.


Rogue

[mick]

anytime it goes up. shareholder like this.

[rrufff]

yeah - as I said no real market for now.

[mick]

DID YOU SEE THE MOVE WITH THIS ONE?

CTEX.PK Nov 25 0.40 +0.15 +60.00% 400 ...ONLY 400 SHARES TRADED. WOW!!!

CTEX.PK Nov 25 0.40 +0.15 +60.00% 400

[mick]

o.k. and a few beers and maybe do few shooters with jack daniels.

love to buy the ribs by the box.

[rrufff]

If I ever come out that area, I definitely in for those ribs.

[mick]

i saw him the other day. still loves those bbq ribs.

and he never replaced his missing tooth.

[mick]

no here is what i have for the list in C.

CNVT.OB Nov 25 0.195 -0.005 -2.50% 400
CXTI.OB Nov 25 1.89 +0.23 +13.86% 379,245
CYDF.OB Ticker symbol has changed to: CYDFE.OB

i'll add this one right now.

are you going to do another forum?

can you place BBCMF in your ibox for us if you want to?
networking.
http://investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=3665

i made this change to show the moderator with the assistant.

NetWorking With Moderator: Dave_007,Assistants: PieSky, wang
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[rrufff]

yeah - they were incredible and the fridge - when he came in to score unbelievable. I heard him on howard stern show one day. it was a riot.

[mick]

on da bears. they were the first with the rap and doing the super bowl shuffle.

they all got big heads and lost control of the game. money became the rude of all evil.

[rrufff]

I think I did. Check it out if you get a chance. The problem with it is that it is undiscovered and doesn't trade very often. Has a very big spread.

I spoke with the CEO about getting some market makers to make a real market and to comply with the listing requirements of pinksheets.com. Hopefully, he will do it.

I know several good investors who have taken positions in CTEX but it is as I said very speculative play on emissions detection and control

[rrufff]

dont' remind me - I still remember that superbowl in 1986 or 1987 with McMahon and the fridge. That was incredible. I figured they'd be a dynasty for years.

[mick]

no symbol, it is raising over 2 billion smakeroos. it is a sure go for this company.

[mick]

hey RF , it's me. da bear fan.

#msg-8637228

[mick]

not sure if you mentioned this one before.

CTEX

#msg-8637223

[rrufff]

What is the symbol? That sounds interesting. Is there some info on it?

thanks per usual

[mick]

very nice, i surely did that too. not the coversions but taking down the old stove pipes and cleaning them.

do forget az. is probably going to do an i.p.o. for the new refinery in wellton.

the company is ARIZONA CLEAN AIR.

[rrufff]

02opida - What part of PA are you? You must be a Steelers fan....

[rrufff]

I think the real marketing genius will be in the area of emissions control. That's why I liked the concepts of CTEX. Hopefully, they will come through and get some funding and connections. If so, it could be a huge multi-bagger.

[mick]

hi 02opida. do they still mine coal heavy in your areas?

[rrufff]

That's a fascinating story Mick. I remember when my office building's coal furnace was converted. The oil man imported a gentleman from Poland who had worked in the coal mines. He was the only one who could handle the job. He had to cut up the coal furnace, a very large one, and bring the pieces up a winding staircase.

By the time he was through, this man from Poland (who was an engineer in the old country) was so covered from head to toe, that one could not tell his race or where hair began.

[02opida]

Pennsylvania is Coal Country
:)

[mick]

how about this thought coal going nano? nano has been done with many products.

this would startled the oilmen of the world.

[mick]

good morning friends.

[mick]

i grew up in the coal age. it was dirty fuel til natural gas came along. what i mean coal vs natural gas.

as a kid we would always say which way will the smoke blow.

we will learn together what coal means to world energy, clean energy.

where i worked all furnaces were fired on all three of these.
coal, diesel, natural gas,

you seem to know what is best for our investments.

thank you.

p.s. note is to show we love to network with billionaire ideas.

[midastouch017]

Rrrufff,

It is your board, therefore your decision if you want to
keep it strictly on topic, or not.

In the past, my work brought me to some European countries
where i practised the local stock markets.
I started by chance at some project at high school, and got
drawn into the stock market ever since.
In a short time i started managing my parents savings,
and in all countries i lived in at my adult life i studied
the local market, and language as well.

Going international is easy nowadays, the only problem is
lack of time to handle the amazingly plentiful sources of
info available.

With hundreds of sites, with dozens of newsletters, with
new technologies, all you need is time and very swift reactions.

My main speciality is Israeli companies, some dually traded,
some only in the US, some in Israel only.
In general i prefer Israeli companies, not because
they are necessarily better, but because:

a/A lot more info available for me in Hebrew and English,
in the israeli media.

b/I can always pick up the phone and chat with Headoffice
officials in Hebrew.... and pick up impressions, data,
and various tidbits to finalise the puzzel.

c/Most companies are close, i can always go inspect the
premises, casually interogating employees, nice chatting
etc...

d/Israeli companies have a double safety net(for me)
controlled by Israeli SEC and USA SEC.....so hardly a
chance of hanky panky stuff happening.(With both different
but strict measures the chances of comitting 'mischief' is
greatly reduced.)

e/some of the stocks are dually traded, in Tel-Aviv stock
exchange, as well as in the US, like TEVA, ESLT, and many others....

My choice and picks of the small caps Israeli companies
i own, plus targets are in

(#msg-7956246)

I myself toyed with the idea of living in some other place,
while still maintaining my hobby which turned out to be my
main occupation.

Indeed, true, the Israeli stock market operates between
0900-1700 LT and US markets 1630-2300, a 30 minute intended
overlap.

I regard myself mainly an investor, and a trader on the sidelines only.

And yes, i spend some 12-14 hours daily by the computer.

Regards,

Dubi

[02opida]

You Gotta Burn Coal
:)

[rrufff]

Thanks for that Dubi,

a most enlightening thought. I've begun thinking of a more travel oriented life style and even experimenting with living in varying locations. Your post makes me understand that this is possible and that I don't have to give up daily trading.

We're probably getting more off topic here but, so far, not a lot of interest in Canadian coal mining, but I have a couple of questions for you.

Do you trade daily US stocks? If so, do you ever sleep? <ggg>

Do you trade Israeli or other mideast country stocks? Do you have any thoughts or perhaps there are message boards that deal with these? I have no idea how to trade those stocks through our online brokers.

[midastouch017]

Rrrufff,

There is absolutely no need to apologise, you were simply
not aware that slowly but surely other parts of the world
are joining, making the term 'The world, a tiny global
village' really true.

Far as i am by 11,000 miles or so, i have real time
facilities enabling me to buy/sell in split seconds time.
Every major US broker has a branch in Israel, once you
choose one and complete the necessary paperwork, presto,
out of the convenience of your home-computer, or any
computer for that matter, you are a click away from the
markets.

At the time, some years ago, in R.bull in the BSDM board
you were not even aware i came from the other side of the
world.

Besides the different time zone, we probably think in
similar generality lines, such as buying low selling
high (lol) and trying to discover the 'next' thing, or as
i call it, the hidden GEM.

Experienced as i am, a day nothing new learned is a wasted
day for me.

Regards,

Dubi

[rrufff]

Hi Mick - from what I understand coal can deliver the equivalent BTU as natural gas for about 1/3 of the cost now.

Of course, this is outweighed by the environmental issues. However, I have added this to my own portfolio because I think it is important in a diversified strategy to have investments that will do well as times evolve.

The US is looking for ways to make use of the vast coal resources. As we move forward, I do think that HLB.to will be successful both operationally and as a possible acquisition target.

[rrufff]

Thank you Dubi - that was too parochial of me. You are absolutely right and I apologize.

One of the reasons I started this board is that even though I have decades of investing experience, I feel that I am learning daily. My experience with Canadian and foreign stocks is limited and I welcome comments from those from the entire world <ggggg> and maybe even the next one......

PS - as an aside, how difficult is it for you to trade US stocks. Do you use US brokers or local?

[rrufff]

Hi Mick - thanks for the note. I'm just starting to learn the coal area and as I am not Canadian would never presume to know enough to make recommendations.

However, this stock has been recommended by one of the best stock pickers on SI when it was much higher. I have been following it and it seems like the best bet as more and more of the US and Canada is forced to rely on coal as the price of natural gas goes through the roof.

I appreciate any thoughts you may have pro or con as usual.

[midastouch017]

Winter, High Oil Costs Cause Global Chills
All the more reasons to search cheaper alternatives

Friday November 25, 5:35 pm ET
By George Jahn, Associated Press Writer
Winter Weather, High Heating Costs Cause Worldwide Chills for Consumers on a Budget

(#msg-8634036)

Dubi

[midastouch017]

Hi Ruff,

>>comments from US or Canadian investors <<

iHub is quickly becoming international....
you might want investors from other parts
of the world as well (lol)

Congratulations on the new board.

Earmarked

Dubi

[mick]

hi stockprof, Rf is on target since spring of this year.

[mick]

i have you at the parent and two energy s.a.d.

#board-3665

#board-4739

#board-4787