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I don't think that you have a clear understanding of what the person mark board was designed to accomplish. It allows a member to meet other members and to easily locate them. The exchange of person marks simplifies this. I for one am glad that it's here as it has allowed me to meet and track others with similar ideas easily. I guess the obvious question here is this. Other members use the board and are happy it's there, if it offends you don't go there. To imply that it's purpose is to increase person marks so others will feel that you are a savvy seasoned investor is so ludicrous that's it's funny
Open for discussion:
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The personmarking system that is in place now needs to be scrapped.. It is obsolete and has been abused to the point where it no longer serves a valid or legitimate purpose.
And a new system devised that addresses issues such as merit and member tracking..
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The new personmarking system needs to be divided into two or more parts:
One part (a TRACKING mark) designed for the sole purpose of being able to track other members activities and NOT based on any type of merit.
And a separate part (a MERIT mark) that lends itself to identifying members that are actually credible and worthy of being marked for merit and hard work within the community.
imho
That has NOTHING to do with why the other board was created..
That`s totally crazy to think that someone would create a board of that nature for the sole purpose of being able to HIGHLIGHT other users names...
Members DO NOT visit that board to have their names highlighted..
That is absolutely insane...
True the current marking system highlights a users name and that in itself has a purpose..
That is one of the flaws in IHUB`s current personmarking system..
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The personmarking system that is in place now needs to be scrapped.. It is obsolete and has been abused to the point where it no longer serves a valid or legitimate purpose.
And a new system devised that addresses issues such as merit and member tracking..
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The new personmarking system needs to be divided into two or more parts:
One part (a TRACKING mark) designed for the sole purpose of being able to track other members activities and NOT based on any type of merit.
And a separate part (a MERIT mark) that lends itself to identifying members that are actually credible and worthy of being marked for merit and hard work within the community.
imho
it's not the "only reason", an advanced search of someones past claims and their "track record" is facilitated by marking people......
I think too many people waste way to much time worrying about a "person mark" I come to ihub for two reasons. 1. for social reasons and 2. to make money. I really don't care who does or doesn't follow me. I spend a lot of time on this site helping and teaching others. If I get one person a week telling me thanks for showing or teaching them how to do something I feel I did my job. If I spent this much time worrying about a "person mark" chances are I probably would not have made as much money as I would have if I spent more of my free time researching stock picks and charts. If people are that worried about ihub person marks they should really think about making a twitter account and compete for follows. This is just my opinion only. This subject is getting old and very childish IMO
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Indian giver is an expression used mostly by European Americans to describe a person who gives a gift (literal or figurative) and later wants it back, or something equivalent in return. This expression misunderstands the concept of duality, reciprocity, balance that is part of the cosmovision of indigenous peoples all across the Americas.
The term "Indian gift" was first noted in 1765 by Thomas Hutchinson,[1] and "Indian giver" was first cited in John Russell Bartlett's Dictionary of Americanisms (1860)[2] as "Indian giver. When an Indian gives any thing, he expects to receive an equivalent, or to have his gift returned." Thus it was really an exchange of gifts and not a matter of selflessness.
Etymology
It is unclear exactly how the expression came to be, but the consensus is that it is based on American Indians having a distinctly different sense of property ownership than those of European ancestry. One theory is that early European settlers in North America misinterpreted the aid and goods they received from local Indians as gifts, when in fact they were intended to be offered in trade.
Many tribes operated economically by a form of barter system, or a gift economy, where reciprocal giving was practiced.[6] Another explaination of the term is to describe a pattern of grants that are later taken back, as in the Black Hills of the Dakotas that where "given" to the Native Americans and then taken back when they where found to be valuable.
This pattern of U.S. Government representatives "giving" and then going back on their agreements coined the term among whites "Indian Giver".
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NUCLEAR; the expression "Indian giver" (from all I've found on the internet) has as much offensive meaning against "European settlers" as you believe it has against "Native American Indians".
All is JMHO
PS
Maybe the expression should be changed to; "European giver"
PPS
In the end, it all boils down to one thing, and that is;
Giving Person Marks has everything to do with making the Person's Alias in Bold to make it easier to know who you've Person Marked and, Nothing to do with . . . EARNED, HONOR, INTEGRITY, MERIT, TRUTHFULNESS or HONESTY.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=68810365
Ron Paul for President 2012
Well said "junewong"
Once we "Person Mark" someone, that Person's "Alias" name is made Bold and, any board we visit on iHub, if we see a Person’s "Alias" in Bold we will know we Person Marked them.
i.e. Person Marking someone and making that person's "Alias" bold to recognize them anywhere we visit on iHub is the ONLY Reason for Person Marks.
Giving Person Marks has everything to do with making the Person's Alias in Bold to make it easier to know who you've Person Marked and, Nothing to do with . . . EARNED, HONOR, INTEGRITY, MERIT, TRUTHFULNESS or HONESTY.
Unfortunately, I doubt; "NUCLEAR" will EVER Understand this.
The reason for person marks is to make it easy to spot other members that have similar interests hence their name is viewed in bold. This has been discussed and verified with IHUB administrators.
One other use and possibly the most useful was pointed out to me by another member..it is this if you look under favorites directly under the list of boards a member follow..is a list of the members that that they follow..if you look to the right of the alias you see a column labeled "new posts" it shows how many posts were made by the followed member since you last checked..it also allows a member to read the entire list of posts with just a click..this can be an incredibly powerful tool to factor in the opinions and information of members you believe to be well informed and have interests similar to yours.
Do you know where the term "Indian Giver" comes from??
Indians sure dont like them either, i assure you
and neither do we!!!
You Give, You Let Be. You dont come back and Take Away!!!
Maybe you thought it meant something else??
Why is a racist picture in the I-Box?
I have many Indian friends that would be highly offended by something like that...
Hear you go bro...I kept my word just like I promised....could that be one of the reasons why people follow me?
Check the link:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=68806237
What integrity, with responses like that??
Whats 18 minus 1 ??
Don`t you lose any sleep over it..
Cause I`m not..
Let me explain your petition drive to you...from your iBox, in case you forgot....
The Purpose of person marks is not a issue of earning them or merit or honesty and whoever thinks this does not understand their true propose. The reason for person marks is to make it easy to spot other members that have similar interests hence their name is viewed in bold. This has been discussed and verified with IHUB administrators. It is rather senseless to rehash this subject again, wouldn't it be easier on all if you object to a certain way person marks are being used to just talk to a administrator. Then the true purpose of person marks should be easier to understand and all can return to the reason we are here...investing
Doing fine...So go back over and keep CHEATING
because that is what that other board represents...
OH... and that petition drive?
Since Sunday night and Post #57..
I noticed that MINE is UP six
and YOURS is DOWN one..
imho
He said to me; "The guy that said this in an earlier post hit the nail right on the head:
The only reason someone needs person marks is to lend credibility to a pump."
If this is true and he makes it sound like he agrees it is true then,
Anyone with Person Marks is nothing more than a credible pumper. LOL
Just checking in to see how the "petition drive" was going.
But the only guys I see in here are guys from the Personmark Exchange Board.
They are probably the only ones who have this board boardmarked to if I had to guess about it.
So that they can find it
So for now at least....I guess "that other board" is safe.
No need or desire to go over there..
My point is it's gonna go around and around in circles, so if you just wanted to make one point, maybe you should have made it over there instead of making an entire board. Now you're going to have to make the same point over and over and over to every new poster over here, and from that post it didn't seem like you had the time or patience to do that....(which I don't either btw). Just my POV, no argument here.
I had other business to take care of..
Obviously he wanted to spend the day discussing (more like arguing) with me about the same exact points that we covered two days ago..
All he had to do was review the earlier posts..
Your board name is a question......which requires discussion......you started the board.......now you're ending the discussion????
Personmarks are NOT earned over there..
They are handed out like Halloween candy..
Where is the MERIT in that?
The guy that said this in an earlier post hit the nail right on the head:
The only reason someone needs person marks is to lend credibility to a pump.
Now if you will excuse me I have a life to live..
Please explain; "EARNING them"?
If I receive a Person Mark and I don't know where it came from, why I receive it or what I did to receive it, How do I know I "EARNED IT"?
OR; do you mean that, as long as a person receives Person Marks from anywhere on iHub, other than "that board" it constitutes "EARNING them"?
: )
If you want more personmarks.. Start EARNING them..
Quit CHEATING ...
That`s exactly what is going on over there !!!
END OF DISCUSSION
Definition of GREED
: a selfish and excessive desire for more of something than is needed.
"The Challenge to ALL of Investors Hub"
In an effort to bring back HONESTY and TRUTHFULNESS to the Investor Hub personmark system:
I challenge ALL members of IHUB to go into their Favorite People lists and remove ALL personmarks given to other members that were NOT earned through MERIT.
This includes ALL personmarks that were given out through visits to a certain exchange board.
A persons desire to build their number of personmarks to an outrageous level is generally controlled by nothing more than GREED
And GREED is what is driving our country and the entire world into ruin.
Let`s bring personmark levels back down to honest and truthful numbers.
THANK YOU
If you want more personmarks.. Start EARNING them !!
I'm guesstimating about half my marks came from people that are POed!!!!....does that count as "earning them"???
I am a happy smiling face under the avatar. I love stock picks and technical analysis and especially when those world's collide. Anyhow, ttyl be seeing you. Cheers.
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Its not the Person, bro. Its the Mission. To solve and Prove What exactly?? Hmmmmm??
Good evening my friend. I have had you marked long before all this started. Although I usually don't get involved in this kind of issue. I am going to watch this board with great interest to see what kind of folks it attracts. Don't get me wrong You have always been a favorite of mine and I respect your opinion!! The best of success to you!!
Is this board a board of discussion about
what the name implies it is or not??
Like i said, it seems to me from reading your Ibox that it
directly singles out a certain group of Ihub Posters and
makes attacks on and about those posters, and not about the
discussion of "Whatever Happened to EARNING personmarks?"
If this board were, say, a board for singling out a certain
Group or Groups of Ihub Posters for bashing here, that would
be a TOU Violation.
Why we came here is because we thought there would be conversation on Whatever Happened.
System, remember?? You said it first.
Peace bro.
Everyone have a wonderful evening.. Time to RELAX...
I don't think the personmark system is CORRUPTED, I don't think it's a system other than something to give another person a number, (certainly not like the one on eBay).
How can something (like an iHub Person Mark) that has no indicator of a person’s reliability, integrity, knowledge or trustworthiness be CORRUPT?
Please bear in mind, I thought Person Mark's were an indicator of a person’s reliability, integrity, knowledge, trustworthiness and trading knowledge until I found-out the hard way that I was sadly wrong.
I thought about the Person Mark "system" after that, to try to see if there was something, anything about it that would indicate one person over another to be reliable, knowledgeable or trustworthy and I found Nothing.
Each person can find another person here on iHub reliable, knowledgeable or trustworthy to a point but one should NEVER trade stocks according to what another person says.
Take the stock tips or information you get or find from another person and verify the info through your own DD and then, if you do decide to trade that stock, do so ONLY according to your own judgment.
“Believe only half of what you see and nothing that you hear.”
Edgar Allan Poe
It`s all about the board.. nothing else..
You guys are the ones trying to make it personal by coming over here on my board and ganging up on me trying to pick a fight..
You don`t see me over there starting anything...
Thats not what the subject of your board is though...by name..
It Says:
"Whatever happened to EARNING personmarks?"
A discussion on "Whatever Happened" doesnt
seem to be what you are posting here.
More closely, the ibox skirts personal attacks
towards a group of Ihub Posters than anything else.
Is that what this is here, or a dissusion board on "What Happened"??
Courious to get this right, now. Thanks in advance.
Thank you Brother282, as usual, you have hit the nail right on the head.
I would give you another Personmark if I could.
Steroid use in sports is illegal, even if it does make for a more exciting game.
Personmarks are not illegal. It just makes for a more exciting game.
Thanks to that board...
People finally get to see first hand HOW CORRUPTED the personmark system REALLY IS...
imho
Thanks in part to your friends board..
What is being done over there surely doesn`t qualify as EARNING personmarks..
lol...."somewhat flawed" hell the whole person mark system is a complete and utter mockery...!
IF the person mark system had worked like it was suppose to I do not believe there is any way whatsoever that Mr.Green would have started that board with the intentions of "cheating" the system, he is not that type of person IMO.
Well Isnt That The Subject of Your Board??
It Says:
"Whatever happened to EARNING personmarks?"
When you discuss it enough, im guessing, you
may still not know the answer to that question.
What Constitutes Earning PersonMarks??
Because everyone doesnt use the personmark system the same way, FROM THE START!!!
Btw, it was the system not the board~~~
What about the people that have hundreds...that probably don’t deserve ten that Never visited the “Personmark Exchange Board”.
Fact is; many of the people here on iHub that have hundreds of Person Marks might only deserve ten "in our opinion" but, so what.
Who "Really" deserves any Person Marks, what does it "Really Matter"?
Since we can’t see other people’s Private Messages, the ones with hundreds of Person Marks “could” essentially be Private Messaging a lot of people (daily or weekly) asking others to exchange Person Marks.
I’m not saying that’s the reason and, I have no doubt a lot of the people that do have hundreds of Person Marks receive them from people that like something about that person. BUT . . .
iHub is NOT like eBay or one of the other on-line auction sites where "feedback" numbers and, especially. . . high "positive Feedback percentage" can make all the difference as to whether someone trusts you enough to buy from you, as well as sell to you.
Look at all the people here on iHub that have hundreds of Person Marks that you don't like, the people that bash on stock boards over and over, the people that simply irritate endlessly for no apparent reason, we all know our share of these people and more likely than not, we too are those irritating people to some. Do any of these people really deserve "any" of their Person Marks?
On iHub (IMO) Deserve/Earn in reference to Person Marks sounds more like an oxymoron.
Plus, I’ve made a lot of money from stock tips from people with less than one hundred Person Marks as I have from stock tips from people with hundreds and thousands of Person Marks.
Couldn’t it also be considered RIDICULOUS that people get Person Marks even though, there seems to be no real indicator of a person’s reliability, integrity, knowledge or trustworthiness?
All is just my humble opinion.
Sincerely,
Essence of Wealth
It`s compounded by the existence of that board..
A system that was somewhat flawed before is now getting out of control..
Actually, i was referring to PM's sent since ive been in Ihub
telling me They have Marked Me. You think im not going to Mark Then Back?? lol
How about you, you dont Mark anyone that has Marked You, just because??
Dont lie, its not a trick question.
The only Low i see is the hatred i feel while here, friend.
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