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Actually, I don't think anyone gives a crap anymore aside from having something filed so the stock can move one way or the other and give investors and traders something to throw darts at but as it stands it seems HDC is causing even more grief no matter what they try to do.
Below is section Item 8 involving SEC filing. Also to your direct comment I believe Marty would normally gather all the financial and other needed information for HDC and the Independent Public Accounting Firm that would check over the entire year of records and give their opinion. So an audit probably not but what Marty or George submits to our Accounting firm must have their signature, CEO and CFO signatures and there is a legal stipulation to those signatures. This is why I had thought Marty would come back and try to straighten out the yearly books. It would be so much easier and cost less for Marty to come back and finish the book work so the IPAF can review and sign off on whatever Marty submits.
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Item 8 “Financial Statements and Supplementary Data” requires the company’s audited financial statements. This includes the company’s income statement (which is sometimes called the statement of earnings or the statement of operations), balance sheets, statement of cash flows and statement of stockholders’ equity. The financial statements are accompanied by notes that explain the information presented in the financial statements.
U.S. companies are required to present their financial statements according to a set of accounting standards, conventions and rules known as Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, or GAAP. An independent accountant audits the company’s financial statements. For large companies, the independent accountant also reports on a company’s internal controls over financial reporting.
The auditor’s report is a key part of the 10-K. Most audit reports express an “unqualified opinion” that the financial statements fairly present the company’s financial position in conformity with GAAP. If, however, an auditor expresses a “qualified opinion” or a “disclaimer of opinion,” investors should look carefully at what kept the auditor from expressing an unqualified opinion. Likewise, investors should carefully evaluate material weaknesses disclosed on internal controls over financial reporting.
In addition, a company’s CEO and CFO must certify that the 10-K is both accurate and complete. These are called Sections 302 and 906 certifications, and you can usually find them in Exhibits 31 and 32.
You may also find “non-GAAP financial measures” in the 10-K. That means that the numbers do NOT conform to GAAP. While companies are permitted to present non-GAAP measures, they must also show how they differ from the most comparable corresponding GAAP financial measure. As an investor, it is up to you to decide how much weight to give to non-GAAP measures.
Not sure if audition is required. An audited 10k takes time to do.
Sorry for the incomplete thought. I was using my phone instead of my usual laptop, and my grandson jumped on my lap and caused it to submit. No big deal since I don't know anything
Any guess on when we will see the final scene? Good or bad I'll be glad when this play is over.
I don't have a take on what may or may not be happening behind the scenes with George submitting the
I figure total Attorney, Audit and filing fees will be $32k - $42k
Let me run my mouth again...... It has been 2 months since the following USPTO hearing took place and my money still thinks that they will allow HDC as the patent holders period. They the Judges within basically stated 2 months before a decision so any time now the clock strikes 12 also worth noting it will be another 30-50 days before Judge Albright could possibly make any determination in his court referencing the briefings at hand so the USPTO will announce their determination prior Judge Albright.
At any rate here is the old USPTO weblink for those who might wish to revisit the hearing back around June 14th
https://livestream.com/accounts/28471692/events/10469477 it will take a few minutes before the live stream opens so be patient or move it ahead.
George we needs those "SEC filings"
I think (but what do I know?) anyways I think our problem with "Alice two step rule" was bad enough and now we have the attention by the Senators and Chief Justice Robert's. I think he has no choice but to throw the case out but this time with prejudice during the present briefings hearings, so we will never proceed with the stay order calendar dates. I don't see any other choice unless Skylab falls out of the sky again...is that possible in HDC?
Post by BroomStick1776......
"At Alice step one, the Court concluded that the claims were directed to abstract ideas: “the use of mathematical calculations and statistical modeling.” Id. at 1250. It refused to categorize the purported improvement —increased accuracy in haplotype prediction—as an improvement to a technological process."
Albright heavily relies on the Stanford II case described in the ruling. In that case, "increased accuracy and haplotype prediction" were not enough to satisfy Alice Step 2. He applies that to HDVY as well with SVM-RFE "accuracy" as not enough.
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At any rate after the following we will see? ... Accordingly, it is ORDERED that, consistent with the schedule, all proceedings (except briefing on Intel’s Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings) in the above-captioned matter are STAYED pending resolution of Intel’s Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings. SIGNED this 15th day of August, 2022. Judge Albright.
That premise was based on courts usually move faster than the patent office ..
With the court delay you are correct that probably won't happen ..
I don't know where this is headed ..
And didn't after the dismissal ..
So I sold it all after selling some on the way up ...
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3rd time decent profit in 20+ years ..
Noted on another platform ..
As this board was .. and is still too controlled ..
I've been demoted to Fudster on other boards for pointing out the obvious realities that few seem to grasp ...
I wish everyone luck here but my contributions will be minimal ..
Possibly another shot here @ $$ ..
But the fog is too thick to see it coming ..
I will wait for some sunshine ..
Judge Albright signed a STAY today........ https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AHqb6S%5FMRHcGeIo&cid=658845AE0CC93963&id=658845AE0CC93963%2187771&parId=658845AE0CC93963%21178&o=OneUp
Accordingly, it is ORDERED that, consistent with the schedule above, all proceedings (except briefing on Intel’s Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings) in the above-captioned matter are STAYED pending resolution of Intel’s Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings. SIGNED this 15th day of August, 2022. Judge Albright.
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Ou71764...I know our back is up against the wall and when you read Intel's case it looks like no chance in the world and probably not but...when you read Marty's resignation email that George provided as a legal SEC entry I don't see any room for George not filing the over due SEC filings regardless "if" any possible pending bankruptcy/Insolvency since Marty's resignation information is probably just the surface information that could come back to haunt George. I would not worry about George trying to dump his shares (even if he could) that too would provide a bad outcome. The probability may reside in how we come out of this with at least half a tee shirt on our back? I believe the CITADEL SECURITIES GROUP is long gone and left just before 12/31/21 just look at the trades back then! however, if not SEC filings shouldn't be a problem to file, correct? Now about Vennwest? I don't think there is anything left worth risking their money but I'm glad George (at least to date) hasn't bowed down to them and has kept BQ out of the company.
Let's see if George can pull 1 more Rabbit out of his hats.... imagine being 75-77 years old and the CEO of HDC and what your wife must be saying in any conversations if she is even talking to you?
Digdeeper17...I know you said the USPTO would normally defer to the Texas Court but the timing looks as if the USPTO will be ready to complete their tasks any day now. Is it more likely that the USPTO doesn't want to make any decision before Judge Albright meaning they will make sure either way that they (the USPTO) doesn't crack a word until Texas announces findings. On the human side of this Intel has whipped HDC silly for years and the USPTO has spent countless hours messing with HDC/iNTEL so my human side says (which is BS) that the USPTO just might want to stir the pot a bit (my wishful thinking and dream on) by finally telling Intel to go screw themselves and beat JA or perhaps help him in their own way. I'm sure the USPTO and Jude Albright won't allow the human factor but sure wish they would.
Hey what the hell all of us here have to have things our way even though this isn't "Burger king" which sucks too.
Ou71764...I found it this morning...look at the new share structuring....
https://content.edgar-online.com/ExternalLink/EDGAR/0000950123-10-004797.html?hash=ffa9a79079dffe46ffd03fd549b15abfe71dba25c09eada8dd9c0aeb2e395ae6&dest=F54711EXV3W1_HTM#F54711EXV3W1_HTM
BTW...I think at the time of discussions between Barnhill and that company it was just prior to bankruptcy or after (don't remember) but his (Barnhill) excuse was that he felt we would not get anything from them if we didn't agree due to the bankruptcy process. I believe I was pissed that (and again don't recall closely) that we gave them free run of our technology under the old or new name of that company.
The "Barnhill Shuffle" dance as I made known back then.
I believe Vermillion went bankrupt and when they came out of that the directors had most of the shares and I believe the OS was 4.5 million shares so it shot way on up there?
Yes we got screwed on that deal too but recall Dr. Barnhill felt that either the lawsuit would take too long or we needed the money badly and could not weather the storm but looking back I now feel Barnhill was looking out for himself and is why I dislike him and BQ, what is interesting is that George McGovern was involved with HDC in 2010 and Marty knew George during those days.
I still believe Marty and George will produce the SEC filings shortly.
Hi LocWolf,
I haven't sold my shares either. My quote from Dante's Divine Comedy was more that I was acknowledging that a big payoff is a long shot - I haven't given up quite yet.
As for Vermillion, my comment that we're owed a karmic debt was also meant to be a little humorous. Although I do think we were ripped off on the payoff. So, we are due something big!
But I don't believe Vermillion's runup was due to a reverse split. I remember when it went from .01 to .30, .40. ,50 - and then someone on the HDVY message board called out to me, "Hey ou, have you been watching the stock of that company who stole our patents?!"
By then VRML hit $1, and I thought, "Well, I missed this one - it's too late to get in now." And yet it kept rising more and more.
I found a chart using BarCharts showing it going from around $0 (when it would have been 1 cent) to over $30. I checked the option to show splits and the only one was in 2008...and the runup was in 2009-2010. Not sure how to post it here. But I think their stock's huge move was due to their PR not a reverse split.
"Abandon hope all ye who enter here." I think people should have sell orders in place in advance in case there is a rumor or piece of news that sparks a temporary spike in the share price. What would be a good exit point on a rumor, 2 cents?
It appears that it's highly unlikely that the filings will ever happen. So we are in limbo for the foreseeable future. The only buyers now are some fat cats who are willing to speculate with a few hundred dollars to pick up a handful of sub-penny shares. Chump change to them.
But at some point, without a miracle, the stock will no longer be quoted, and our shares will just disappear...sort of like the HMS Hood disappeared from the radar screen.
But there is a karmic debt still owed us. Vermillion stole our patents and got off easy, only paying $600,000 in damages. Eventually their stock went from 1 cent to $35. Perhaps the universe will reward us similarly. Well, ya never know...
All true. Nothing to add.
George closed down his office at this house so and who knows referencing the Atlanta virtual offices. Do recall Marty stating in his resignation letter that bills are not being paid or indication as such so maybe the phone rings endlessly.
We should have been bankrupted long ago and doubt any one ever thought we would see anything from NEO and now this years later.
JA is involved deeply in Government and can guarantee you he will adjust or be placed in a position of nowhere land in time. Waco may have been nowhere land and JA did what he could to survive Waco land but now his stars have been stripped from his shoulders like the 1965 Branded movie starring Chuck Connors. No way in hell can JA fight the fight he must adjust or else. Don't forget the two Senators will be watching him and just might slap Chief Judge Orlando Garcia harder, oh yes this is Government so know that the Chief Judge got slapped too for the inability to command his districts. This all must look like JA directly for impact but know Judge Garcia got his a$$ reamed too.
At any event and regardless if HDC were to receive truck loads of money they are done. If anything the few of us left are here for the pump upon positive news which doesn't look very possible.
You can look at many other message boards involving HDC and the have no clue of the reality of the differences between a company like NetList and HDC, no clue at all plus they haven't any knowledge on what in hell is a SEC filing. So with some positive news which I doubt will happen comes a pump to get out of the HDC prison again.
I've tried to reach someone from HDC by mail, but zero reaction. So, I don't know if they even think about doing those reports... As for Albright it can work in both ways, the pressure on him can make him stronger, after all HDC refiled with changes that he indicated in the previous order. It's 50/50, anyway dead money, there is no exit from this room, the door is closed, the key keeps JA.
I'm probably the last to actually read the legal order signed by Chief Judge Orlando Garcia stating how the patent cases will be distributed but here it is. We know the first case was dismissed and doubt HDC's plan will work but would be interesting if it does. My other thoughts the massive pressure now placed on Judge Albright tells me he will again dismiss the case. I know I wouldn't like to be sitting in his shoes with all that has transpired above him which is really unrelated to the HDC/Intel case.
https://www.txwd.uscourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/Standing%20Orders/District/Order%20Assigning%20the%20Business%20of%20the%20Court%20as%20it%20Relates%20to%20Patent%20Cases%20072522.pdf
btw...re: expert market...I was "wrong" so as soon as HDC files their SEC documents we will be able to trade AGAIN...well the next day that is..
I'm not sure but I don't think it is just a matter of HDC filing their past SEC documents that will put us back on bid/ask for public trading. I believe it will take weeks after the documents are finally filed, you may even see the SEC documents filed but lifting of the restrictive BID/ASK and trading may not be reactivated as quickly.
No doubt with all these years if crap can go wrong HDC is at the top of Mt. Everest as being at the very top, sincerely.
Yes indeed I think we all pretty much can agree on that.
Well, I’ll go to the foot of our stairs - it looks like HDVY is a scam after all!
Plus ça change:
"Seriously, you have been pretty negative on this company ever since it took over dwcm"
I surely have.
"What do you know that we don't?"
Nuttin'. I just reach different conclusions to you,even though I observe the same things that everybody else observes.
That's because I start from a different perspective, and with a different background.
You came to HDVY through the hope that you could make lots of money on the foot of a plausible high-tech story, involving technology and techniques that you don't understand but that sounded good.
I came to HDVY because I study scam stocks, and I noticed that HDVY was being pumped hard - very hard- by folk who had been associated with several companies that at best had a serious contempt for their shareholders, and at worst were plainly scams.
So I had a close look at HDVY and saw a number of things that looked like red flags to me.
The first is a classic high-tech company scam technique - claim that you have exclusive patented technology that no one else can use. Trouble is, if you never seriously enforce your IP rights (and HDVY's one case was actually against a friendly company, and for a derisory amount!) then it becomes clear that your IP is worth as much as you spend defending it - in HDVY's case, nothing.
And the story that someone has to infringe before that IP is enforceable is a crock. Firstly according to Barnhill himself, mega corporations like Microsoft are already in breach of HDVY's patents, but with complete impunity. Plus no other company should have FTO (freedom to operate)in the area of HDVY's patents, and HDVY could claim serious damages for that - if they genuinely have a case. They obviously don't think they have such a case.
Secondly I have (somewhat dated) post-grad level math, and the claims about the nature of SVMs by some of HDVY's more persistent touts were always ludicrous, and betrayed a level of ignorance stunning even by the high standards set by some of these pumpers in their previous assignments.
In a nutshell, I discount the value of HDVY's IP completely.
Thirdly, the usual reliance on avoiding buyer's remorse has been played by the pumpers and management here - "just hold your shares, like I am, and everything will be just fine", they tell you. Some management apologist are particularly fond of this technique, but I doubt they've ever bought a single share. (They may ofcourse have been given some, like most of HDVY's "consultants" seem to have been.)
For how many years have you heard that story - you personally? Why believe it now?
Fourthly, the appalling way this "management" treats its shareholders while stuffing its own snout firmly into the trough is nothing short of breathtaking.
Tonight's windfall for Tobin was only the latest example of many of Barnhill and his cronies' belief that you shareholders are nothing but ATMs, and dumb unquestioning ones at that, for them to draw down large sums of cash whenever they want - while the pps continues to go to hell in a handbasket for all they care.
Fifthly, when your principal investigator, Dr. Fritsche, is also your lead spokesperson, the Chair of your SAB and lands a cushy executive role after retiring from academia (assuming he did retire rather than Grassley getting to him first) then you have to wonder if his results will be reproducible in the hands of other investigators. Certainly he has always been highly conflicted.
"What happened or what did barnhill do in the past that rubbed you the wrong way??? "
Nothing happened - he just happens to be CEO of a company that I think is a (reasonably plausible) scam.
Hope this helps. GLTY.
Doesn't look like Mr. Market is impressed by the strength - or rather the lack of strength - of HDVY's case.
Tomorrow 8/5 Intel will have their first rebuttal and possibly we will be able to view that Tuesday.
I wonder why Marty Delmonte made reference to Vennwest in his resignation letter. Maybe this lawsuit could have been prevented but as I recall HDC isn't obligated to accept any deal with Laurie. I haven't dug into the filings but didn't he have a somewhat large investment in HDC to start with, but why did George refuse his offer? Did it have anything to do with Kevin Kowbel? It appear both Kevin and Laurie have businesses in Canada and did that have anything to do with George not accepting a deal from Vennwest or perhaps it was due to Kevin's relations with Vennwest...if that existed? I would imagine BQ was involved with Kevin, and George just figured to sever the relationships with all of them. I recall being happy in thinking that was what transpired back then.
I was looking at the pacer file that I printed out and noticed the plaintiff wording?
Vennwest Global Technologies Inc., Derivatively on behalf of Health Discovery Corporation.
Plaintiff
v.
George H. McGovern, III , Colleen M. Hutchinson, William F. Fromholzer, James Murph,
Edward Morrison, Marty Delmonte and James Dengler
Defendants,
And
Health Discovery Corporation, a Georgia Corporation
Nominal Defendant.
Thank you for the update ..
Complicates any buyout or settlement with Intel for sure ..
We don't even know who ends up with control of the company it appears to me ..
Vennwest Global v. Health Discovery Corp.
Case 1:20-cv-3386-VMC
Northern District Georgia Atlanta Division.
Motion is GRANTED. The parties shall have through and including September 19, 2022, to complete all discovery matters.
IT IS SO ORDERED, this 21 day of June, 2022
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Filed & Entered: 06/21/2022
Order on Motion for Extension of Time to Complete Discovery
Docket Text: ORDER Granting [55] Consent Motion for Extension of Time to Complete Discovery. Discovery ends on 9/19/2022. Signed by Judge Victoria M. Calvert on June 21, 2022. (lwb)
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Filed & Entered: 06/20/2022
Terminated: 06/21/2022
Motion for Extension of Time to Complete Discovery
Docket Text: Second MOTION for Extension of Time to Complete Discovery by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc.. (Attachments: # (1) Text of Proposed Order)(Kaufman, Robert)
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Filed & Entered: 05/10/2022
Leave of Absence
Docket Text: Notice for Leave of Absence for the following date(s): June 20-24, 2022, July 25 - August 5, 2022, by Robert J. Kaufman. (Kaufman, Robert) Modified on 5/11/2022 to edit text (lwb).
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Filed & Entered: 04/20/2022
Order
Docket Text: STANDING ORDER: Guidelines to Parties and Counsel in Cases Proceeding Before the Honorable Victoria M. Calvert. Signed by Judge Victoria M. Calvert on 4/20/2022.(rvb)
Filed & Entered: 04/11/2022
Case Assigned/Reassigned
Docket Text: Case Reassigned to Judge Victoria M Calvert. Judge Leigh Martin May no longer assigned to case. NOTICE TO ALL COUNSEL OF RECORD: The Judge designation in the civil action number assigned to this case has been changed to 1:20-cv-03386-VMC. Please make note of this change in order to facilitate the docketing of pleadings in this case. (adg)
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Filed & Entered: 03/16/2022
Terminated: 03/16/2022
Motion for Extension of Time to Complete Discovery
Docket Text: Consent MOTION for Extension of Time to Complete Discovery by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc.. (Attachments: # (1) Text of Proposed Order)(Kaufman, Robert)
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Filed & Entered: 03/16/2022
Order on Motion for Extension of Time to Complete Discovery
Docket Text: ORDER granting [51] Motion for Extension of Time to Complete Discovery. Discovery ends on 6/21/2022. Signed by Judge Leigh Martin May on 3/16/2022. (anc)
49
Filed & Entered: 02/02/2022
Terminated: 02/02/2022
Motion to Withdraw as Attorney
Docket Text: MOTION to Withdraw Daniel Chase Fishbein as Attorneyby Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc.. (Fishbein, Daniel)
50
Filed & Entered: 02/02/2022
Order on Motion to Withdraw as Attorney
Docket Text: ORDER granting [49] Motion to Withdraw as Attorney. Attorney Daniel Chase Fishbein terminated as counsel for Plaintiff. Signed by Judge Leigh Martin May on 2/2/2022. (anc)
48
Filed & Entered: 01/27/2022
Certificate of Service
Docket Text: CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE of Discovery Responses by Marty Delmonte, James Dengler, William F. Fromholzer, Health Discovery Corporation, Colleen M. Hutchinson, George H. McGovern, III, Edward Morrison, James Murphy.(Wedekind, Lee)
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Filed & Entered: 12/21/2021
Certificate of Service
Docket Text: CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE of Discovery by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc..(Kaufman, Robert)
39
Filed & Entered: 12/08/2021
Notice to Take Deposition
Docket Text: NOTICE to Take Deposition of Marty Delmonte filed by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc. (Kaufman, Robert)
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Filed & Entered: 12/08/2021
Notice to Take Deposition
Docket Text: NOTICE to Take Deposition of James Dengler filed by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc. (Kaufman, Robert)
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Filed & Entered: 12/08/2021
Notice to Take Deposition
Docket Text: NOTICE to Take Deposition of William F. Fromholzer filed by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc. (Kaufman, Robert)
42
Filed & Entered: 12/08/2021
Notice to Take Deposition
Docket Text: NOTICE to Take Deposition of Colleen M. Hutchinson filed by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc. (Kaufman, Robert)
43
Filed & Entered: 12/08/2021
Notice to Take Deposition
Docket Text: NOTICE to Take Deposition of Health Discovery Corporation filed by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc. (Kaufman, Robert)
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Filed & Entered: 12/08/2021
Notice to Take Deposition
Docket Text: NOTICE to Take Deposition of George H. McGovern, III filed by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc. (Kaufman, Robert)
45
Filed & Entered: 12/08/2021
Notice to Take Deposition
Docket Text: NOTICE to Take Deposition of Edward Morrison filed by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc. (Kaufman, Robert)
46
Filed & Entered: 12/08/2021
Notice to Take Deposition
Docket Text: NOTICE to Take Deposition of James Murphy filed by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc. (Kaufman, Robert)
38
Filed & Entered: 11/04/2021
Certificate of Service
Docket Text: CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE of Discovery Responses by Marty Delmonte, James Dengler, William F. Fromholzer, Health Discovery Corporation, Colleen M. Hutchinson, George H. McGovern, III, Edward Morrison, James Murphy.(Wedekind, Lee)
37
Filed & Entered: 10/06/2021
Certificate of Service
Docket Text: CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE of Discovery by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc..(Kaufman, Robert)
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Filed & Entered: 09/03/2021
Certificate of Service
Docket Text: CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE OF DISCOVERY by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc..(Kaufman, Robert)
35
Filed & Entered: 07/28/2021
Certificate of Service
Docket Text: CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE of Discovery by Marty Delmonte, James Dengler, William F. Fromholzer, Health Discovery Corporation, Colleen M. Hutchinson, George H. McGovern, III, Edward Morrison, James Murphy.(Birg, Erika)
34
Filed & Entered: 07/23/2021
Scheduling Order
Docket Text: SCHEDULING ORDER: re:[33] Joint Preliminary Report and Discovery Plan. The parties shall have eight (8) months for discovery. Signed by Judge Leigh Martin May on 7/23/2021. (rjc)
32
Filed & Entered: 07/22/2021
Initial Disclosures
Docket Text: Initial Disclosures by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc..(Kaufman, Robert)
33
Filed & Entered: 07/22/2021
Joint Preliminary Report and Discovery Plan
Docket Text: JOINT PRELIMINARY REPORT AND DISCOVERY PLAN filed by Marty Delmonte, James Dengler, William F. Fromholzer, Health Discovery Corporation, Colleen M. Hutchinson, George H. McGovern, III, Edward Morrison, James Murphy. (Wedekind, Lee)
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Filed & Entered: 07/08/2021
Certificate of Service
Docket Text: CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE of Defendants' Initial Disclosures by Marty Delmonte, James Dengler, William F. Fromholzer, Health Discovery Corporation, Colleen M. Hutchinson, George H. McGovern, III, Edward Morrison, James Murphy.(Wedekind, Lee)
30
Filed & Entered: 06/28/2021
Answer to Complaint
Docket Text: Amended ANSWER to [1] COMPLAINT by Marty Delmonte, James Dengler, William F. Fromholzer, Health Discovery Corporation, Colleen M. Hutchinson, George H. McGovern, III, Edward Morrison, James Murphy.(Wedekind, Lee) Please visit our website at http://www.gand.uscourts.gov to obtain Pretrial Instructions.
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Filed & Entered: 06/22/2021
Answer to Complaint
Docket Text: ANSWER to [1] COMPLAINT and Affirmative Defenses by Marty Delmonte, James Dengler, William F. Fromholzer, Health Discovery Corporation, Colleen M. Hutchinson, George H. McGovern, III, Edward Morrison, James Murphy. Discovery ends on 11/19/2021.(Wedekind, Lee) Please visit our website at http://www.gand.uscourts.gov to obtain Pretrial Instructions.
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Filed & Entered: 06/08/2021
Order on Motion to Dismiss
Docket Text: ORDER: Defendants' Motion to Dismiss [13] is GRANTED in part and DENIED in part. Plaintiff's claims for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief (Counts X & XI) are DISMISSED. Plaintiff's claim for Inspection of Corporate Records (Count XII) is DISMISSED without prejudice to any claim Plaintiff might have against HDC directly. Plaintiff's remaining claims survive. Defendants' alternative requests for a more definite statement or to stay [13] are DENIED. Signed by Judge Leigh Martin May on 6/8/2021. (tmf)
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Filed & Entered: 04/14/2021
Notice (Other)
Docket Text: NOTICE of Supplemental authority by Marty Delmonte, James Dengler, William F. Fromholzer, Health Discovery Corporation, Colleen M. Hutchinson, George H. McGovern, III, Edward Morrison, James Murphy (Attachments: # (1) Exhibit A, # (2) Exhibit B)(Wedekind, Lee) Modified on 4/15/2021 to edit text (tmf).
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Filed & Entered: 03/10/2021
Notice (Other)
Docket Text: ELEVENTH AMENDMENT TO GENERAL ORDER 20-01 RE: COURT OPERATIONS UNDER THE EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES CREATED BY COVID-19 AND RELATED CORONAVIRUS. Signed by Judge Thomas W. Thrash, Jr. on 03/09/2021 (rvb) (ADI)
25
Filed & Entered: 02/17/2021
Terminated: 02/18/2021
Motion to Withdraw as Attorney
Docket Text: NOTICE of Withdraw Matthew Dempsey Treco as Attorney by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc.. (Treco, Matthew) Modified on 2/18/2021 to edit event and terminate motion (tmf).
24
Filed & Entered: 02/09/2021
Notice (Other)
Docket Text: NOTICE by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc. of Change of Address (Kaufman, Robert)
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Filed & Entered: 01/28/2021
Notice (Other)
Docket Text: TENTH AMENDMENT TO GENERAL ORDER 20-01 RE: COURT OPERATIONS UNDER THE EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES CREATED BY COVID-19 AND RELATED CORONAVIRUS. Signed by Judge Thomas W. Thrash, Jr. on 01/27/2021. (ddm) (ADI)
Filed & Entered: 12/16/2020
Submission to District Judge
Docket Text: Submission of [13] MOTION to Dismiss Motion for More Definite Statement, or, in the alternative, Motion to StayMOTION for More Definite Statement MOTION to Stay, to District Judge Leigh Martin May. (tmf)
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Filed & Entered: 12/15/2020
Reply to Response to Motion
Docket Text: REPLY to Response to Motion re [13] MOTION to Dismiss Motion for More Definite Statement, or, in the alternative, Motion to StayMOTION for More Definite Statement MOTION to Stay filed by Marty Delmonte, James Dengler, William F. Fromholzer, Health Discovery Corporation, Colleen M. Hutchinson, George H. McGovern, III, Edward Morrison, James Murphy. (Wedekind, Lee)
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Filed & Entered: 12/09/2020
Notice (Other)
Docket Text: NINTH AMENDMENT TO GENERAL ORDER 20-01 RE: COURT OPERATIONS UNDER THE EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES CREATED BY COVID-19 AND RELATED CORONAVIRUS. Signed by Judge Thomas W. Thrash, Jr. on 12/08/2020. (aaq) (ADI)
Filed & Entered: 12/04/2020
Approval of Application for Admission Pro Hac Vice
Docket Text: APPROVAL by Clerks Office re: [18] APPLICATION for Admission of Kenneth Andrew Caruso Pro Hac Vice (Application fee $ 150, receipt number AGANDC-10428794).. Attorney Kenneth Andrew Caruso added appearing on behalf of Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc. (nmb)
Filed & Entered: 12/04/2020
Order on Application for Admission PHV
Docket Text: ORAL ORDER granting [18] Application for Admission of Kenneth Andrew Caruso Pro Hac Vice. Ruled on by Judge Leigh Martin May on 12/4/2020. If the applicant does not have CM/ECF access in the Northern District of Georgia already, they must request access at http://pacer.gov. If they have electronically filed in this district in a previous case, please omit this step.(bnp)
20
Filed & Entered: 12/01/2020
Response in Opposition to Motion
Docket Text: RESPONSE in Opposition re [13] MOTION to Dismiss Motion for More Definite Statement, or, in the alternative, Motion to StayMOTION for More Definite Statement MOTION to Stay Amended for Page Numbering filed by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc.. (Frenchman, Robert)
18
Filed & Entered: 11/30/2020
Terminated: 12/04/2020
Application for Admission Pro Hac Vice
Docket Text: APPLICATION for Admission of Kenneth Andrew Caruso Pro Hac Vice (Application fee $ 150, receipt number AGANDC-10428794).by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc.. (Kaufman, Robert) Documents for this entry are not available for viewing outside the courthouse.
19
Filed & Entered: 11/30/2020
Response in Opposition to Motion
Docket Text: DOCUMENT FILED IN ERRORRESPONSE in Opposition re [13] MOTION to Dismiss Motion for More Definite Statement, or, in the alternative, Motion to StayMOTION for More Definite Statement MOTION to Stay filed by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc.. (Frenchman, Robert) Modified 12/1/20, per call from counsel; corrected document re-filed as Doc. [20]. (fem).
17
Filed & Entered: 11/20/2020
Order on Motion for Extension of Time
Docket Text: ORDER granting [16] Motion for Extension of Time. This matter is before the Court on Plaintiffs Consent Motion to Extend Time to Respond to Defendants Motion to Dismiss, Motion for More Definite Statement, or in the Alternative, Motion for Stay [D.E.16]. After review of the record and due consideration, the motion is GRANTED. Plaintiff shall have through and including November 30, 2020, to respond to Defendants motion. Signed by Judge Leigh Martin May on 11/20/2020. (tmf)
16
Filed & Entered: 11/19/2020
Terminated: 11/20/2020
Motion for Extension of Time
Docket Text: Consent MOTION for Extension of Time re: [13] MOTION to Dismiss Motion for More Definite Statement, or, in the alternative, Motion to StayMOTION for More Definite Statement MOTION to Stay by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc.. (Attachments: # (1) Text of Proposed Order [Proposed] Order)(Kaufman, Robert)
15
Filed & Entered: 11/16/2020
Order on Motion for Extension of Time
Docket Text: ORDER granting Plaintiff's [14] Motion to Extend Time to Respond to Defendants' Motion to Dismiss, Motion for More Definite Statement, or in the Alternative, Motion for Stay. Plaintiff shall have through and including November 23, 2020, to respond to Defendants' motion. Signed by Judge Leigh Martin May on 11/16/2020. (rvb)
14
Filed & Entered: 11/05/2020
Terminated: 11/16/2020
Motion for Extension of Time
Docket Text: Consent MOTION for Extension of Time to Respond to Defendants' Motion to Dismiss, Motion for More Definitive Statement, or, in the Alternative, Motion for Stay by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc.. (Attachments: # (1) Text of Proposed Order [Proposed Order])(Kaufman, Robert)
Filed & Entered: 11/02/2020
Approval of Application for Admission Pro Hac Vice
Docket Text: APPROVAL by Clerks Office re: [12] APPLICATION for Admission of Lee Dilly Wedekind, III Pro Hac Vice (Application fee $ 150, receipt number AGANDC-10318508).. Attorney Lee Dilly Wedekind, III added appearing on behalf of Marty Delmonte, James Dengler, William F. Fromholzer, Health Discovery Corporation, Colleen M. Hutchinson, George H. McGovern, III, Edward Morrison, James Murphy (nmb)
Filed & Entered: 11/02/2020
Order on Application for Admission PHV
Docket Text: ORAL ORDER granting [12] Application for Admission of Lee Dilly Wedekind, III Pro Hac Vice. Ruled on by Judge Leigh Martin May on 11/2/2020. If the applicant does not have CM/ECF access in the Northern District of Georgia already, they must request access at http://pacer.gov. If they have electronically filed in this district in a previous case, please omit this step.(bnp)
13
Filed & Entered: 11/02/2020
Terminated: 06/08/2021
Motion to Dismiss
Docket Text: MOTION to Dismiss Motion for More Definite Statement, or, in the alternative, Motion to Stay with Brief In Support by Marty Delmonte, James Dengler, William F. Fromholzer, Health Discovery Corporation, Colleen M. Hutchinson, George H. McGovern, III, Edward Morrison, James Murphy. (Attachments: # (1) Brief Memorandum of Law In Support of Defendants' Motion to Dismiss)(Birg, Erika) . Added MOTION for More Definite Statement, MOTION to Stay on 11/3/2020 (tmf).
11
Filed & Entered: 10/29/2020
Notice of Appearance
Docket Text: NOTICE of Appearance by Lucas Allen Westby on behalf of Marty Delmonte, James Dengler, William F. Fromholzer, Colleen M. Hutchinson, George H. McGovern, III, Edward Morrison, James Murphy (Westby, Lucas)
12
Filed & Entered: 10/29/2020
Terminated: 11/02/2020
Application for Admission Pro Hac Vice
Docket Text: APPLICATION for Admission of Lee Dilly Wedekind, III Pro Hac Vice (Application fee $ 150, receipt number AGANDC-10318508).by Marty Delmonte, James Dengler, William F. Fromholzer, Colleen M. Hutchinson, George H. McGovern, III, Edward Morrison, James Murphy. (Birg, Erika) Documents for this entry are not available for viewing outside the courthouse.
10
Filed & Entered: 10/27/2020
Order on Motion for Extension of Time to Answer
Docket Text: ORDER: This matter is before the Court on Defendants' Consent Motion to Extend Time to Respond to Complaint [9]. After a review of the record and due consideration, the motion is GRANTED. Defendants shall have through and including November 2, 2020, to respond to Plaintiff's Complaint. Signed by Judge Leigh Martin May on 10/27/2020. (tmf)
9
Filed & Entered: 10/26/2020
Terminated: 10/27/2020
Motion for Extension of Time to File Answer
Docket Text: Consent MOTION for Extension of Time to File Answer to Complaint by Marty Delmonte, James Dengler, William F. Fromholzer, Health Discovery Corporation, Colleen M. Hutchinson, George H. McGovern, III, Edward Morrison, James Murphy. (Birg, Erika)
8
Filed & Entered: 09/29/2020
Notice (Other)
Docket Text: EIGHTH AMENDMENT TO GENERAL ORDER 20-01 RE: COURT OPERATIONS UNDER THE EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES CREATED BY COVID19 AND RELATED CORONA VIRUS. Signed by Judge Thomas W. Thrash, Jr. on 09/28/2020. (ddm) (ADI)
Filed & Entered: 09/03/2020
Order on Application for Admission PHV
Docket Text: ORDER granting [5] Application for Admission Pro Hac Vice of Robert Samuel Frenchman; granting [6] Application for Admission Pro Hac Vice of Daniel Chase Fishbein. Ruled on by Judge Leigh Martin May on 9/3/2020. If the applicant does not have CM/ECF access in the Northern District of Georgia already, they must request access at http://pacer.gov. If they have electronically filed in this district in a previous case, please omit this step.(bnp)
Filed & Entered: 09/02/2020
Approval of Application for Admission Pro Hac Vice
Docket Text: APPROVAL by Clerks Office re: [5] APPLICATION for Admission of Robert Samuel Frenchman Pro Hac Vice (Application fee $ 150, receipt number AGANDC-10079579).. Attorney Robert Samuel Frenchman added appearing on behalf of Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc. (nmb)
Filed & Entered: 09/02/2020
Approval of Application for Admission Pro Hac Vice
Docket Text: APPROVAL by Clerks Office re: [6] APPLICATION for Admission of Daniel Chase Fishbein Pro Hac Vice (Application fee $ 150, receipt number AGANDC-10079601).. Attorney Daniel Chase Fishbein added appearing on behalf of Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc. (nmb)
7
Filed & Entered: 09/02/2020
Notice (Other)
Docket Text: SEVENTH AMENDMENT TO GENERAL ORDER 20-01 RE: COURT OPERATIONS UNDER THE EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES CREATED BY COVID-19 AND RELATED CORONAVIRUS. Signed by Judge Thomas W. Thrash, Jr. on 9/1/2020. (ddm) (ADI)
5
Filed & Entered: 08/28/2020
Terminated: 09/03/2020
Application for Admission Pro Hac Vice
Docket Text: APPLICATION for Admission of Robert Samuel Frenchman Pro Hac Vice (Application fee $ 150, receipt number AGANDC-10079579). with Brief In Support by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc.. (Kaufman, Robert) Documents for this entry are not available for viewing outside the courthouse.
6
Filed & Entered: 08/28/2020
Terminated: 09/03/2020
Application for Admission Pro Hac Vice
Docket Text: APPLICATION for Admission of Daniel Chase Fishbein Pro Hac Vice (Application fee $ 150, receipt number AGANDC-10079601). with Brief In Support by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc.. (Kaufman, Robert) Documents for this entry are not available for viewing outside the courthouse.
4
Filed & Entered: 08/24/2020
Notice of Appearance
Docket Text: NOTICE of Appearance by Matthew Dempsey Treco on behalf of Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc. (Treco, Matthew)
3
Filed & Entered: 08/18/2020
Order
Docket Text: STANDING ORDER REGARDING CIVIL LITIGATION Signed by Judge Leigh Martin May on 8/18/2020. (tmf)
1
Filed: 08/14/2020
Entered: 08/18/2020
Complaint
Docket Text: VERIFIED SHAREHOLDER DERIVATIVE COMPLAINT with Jury Demand filed by Vennwest Global Technologies, Inc. (Filing fee $400, receipt number AGANDC-10030708) (Attachments: # (1) Exhibit 1 - Verification, # (2) Civil Cover Sheet)(bdb) Please visit our website at http://www.gand.uscourts.gov/commonly-used-forms to obtain Pretrial Instructions and Pretrial Associated Forms which includes the Consent To Proceed Before U.S. Magistrate form.
2
Filed: 08/14/2020
Entered: 08/18/2020
Order
Docket Text: SIXTH AMENDMENT TO GENERAL ORDER 20-01 RE: COURT OPERATIONS UNDER THE EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES CREATED BY COVID-19 AND RELATED CORONA VIRUS. Signed by Judge Thomas W. Thrash, Jr. on 8/3/2020. (bdb)
Digdeeper you are correct....from the last 10-Q as follows...... On November 2, 2020, the Company moved to dismiss the complaint or stay the action pending the conclusion of the Quirk and Bear case, on the grounds that the first-filed derivative case would serve as res judicata to preclude the later-filed case. On November 30, 2020, Vennwest filed its response, and on December 15, 2020, the Company filed its reply. On June 8, 2021, the judge ruled to allow the case to proceed, and the parties are now in discovery phase of the case. The Company will vigorously defend itself against these claims and evaluate all options against the plaintiffs including, but not limited to, pursuing counterclaims.
Although the Company believes that it will ultimately be successful in its defense, there can be no assurance that the Company will be successful in its defense. Should Vennwest be successful, the outcome could have a material adverse effect on the Company. Legal fees for this matter were $11,000 and $2,000 for the three months ended September 30, 2021 and 2020, respectively, and $31,000 and $2,000 for the nine months ended September 30, 2021 and 2020, respectively.
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I wasn't even aware of this that it was still on going. I thought both went to their own corner and was cooling it. Sure doesn't look that way does it? I wonder if anything good could ever come out of this move. I just don't see a big value left in HDC?
I kinda thought it was the other way around ...
Venwest Vrs hdvy ?
Last 10 q filing shows discovery started I thought
Any updates via court ?
We know we aren't getting updates via filings .......
...about two months from now we should hear back from the USPTO about patentability referencing our patents.
It was one thing that JA was warned months ago but has now escalated to the point of pissing off enough people to now actually mess with his pride and joy, patent cases. I don't believe this will end well for HDC or Judge Albright.
I had retired in 2007 and when crap like this has happen to an individual it never gets better it get worse, yes I'm talking GOV.
If I understand you right (non native english) JA has no choice but dismiss the case bc of further sanctions against him? Very possible, but we should look at how many times his decisions were overturned by higher courts meaning how really bad were his previous rulings to put him underground. I do believe he left the window open for HDC for a reason. I agree that if dismissed, HDC is going straight to bk and there is no real need for filings. In the other hand by doing it HDC would strengthen confidence in the company. Management is losing money the same way as investors do so, maybe it is worth to spend some money, shouldn't be very expensive for 2 reports (audition not required). GL.
Nikitze...if you look at Judge Albright's schedule you can see that he might not be granted a choice. We have no idea but only thoughts referencing the political side of the players. At this point between what we read as to the web links posted about JA the actual fact are not clear. JA has very little to say at this point and with reading different information his hands were slapped and that isn't a good sign.
As for respect for JA? Look I feel the same in many ways but in the past and what we are reading or hearing it can be seen that JA "may" have wanted to heighten his image or position which made him stick out like a sore thumb ready to be hammered again. It seems more than once complaints that run through those two Senators to say the least coupled "possible" with Intel building the factory may have been brewing for some time and JA has hammered Intel more than once. I believe JA may have no way out of this without another dismissal in which case I hope I am wrong as usual?
Now that this is totally in the light there is no reason (my thought) that HDC needs to produce all the filings unless their Attorney's are involved.
Intel isn't scheduled to respond to the July 22 brief that HDC did until August 5th. HDC will then respond to Intel's 8/5 brief on 8/12 then of course Intel will respond back on 8/19 and then JA will make a decision within say 2 weeks??? I would not be surprised if he simply dismisses the case this time with PREJUDICE and of course that will mean HDC needs to wound up the company. If you look at all this (at least me) I see far too much pressure on JA to keep HDC alive any longer and he is being pushed to move on or out the door.
What are your thoughts plus anyone who reads this?
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Just noted the message on Yahoo message board extending..... as follows....
NOTICE OF EXTENSION OF TIME TO FILE MOTION TO ENTER AN AGREED SCHEDULING ORDER
Plaintiff Health Discovery Corporation files this agreed notice to extend the time for the
parties to file their motion to enter an agreed Scheduling Order. The deadline is currently July 28,
2022, and the parties have agreed to a one-week extension up to and including August 4, 2022.
The extension does not change the date of any hearing, trial or other Court date, and the extension
does not extend any final submission that affects the Court’s ability to hold a scheduled hearing,
trial, or Court event.
JA should feel mad about the decision to split lawsuits between other Judges. It's an open lack of respect to him.If the case has a perspective I think he will grant the Motion to HDC to keep the case under the same lawsuit, so JA will lead it to the end himself. IMO.
This will be a bit clearer...copied from Wikipedia
Federal judicial service
Magistrate judge and nomination
Albright served as a United States Magistrate Judge of the United States District Court for the Western District of Texas from 1992 to 1999.[4] On January 23, 2018, President Trump announced his intent to nominate Albright to an undetermined seat on the United States District Court for the Western District of Texas.[3] On January 24, 2018, his nomination was sent to the United States Senate. He was nominated to the seat vacated by Judge Walter Scott Smith Jr., who retired on September 14, 2016.[5] On April 25, 2018, a hearing on his nomination was held before the Senate Judiciary Committee.[6] On May 24, 2018, his nomination was reported out of committee by voice vote.[7] On September 6, 2018, his nomination was confirmed by voice vote.[8] He received his judicial commission on September 10, 2018, and was sworn in by Chief Judge Orlando Luis Garcia on September 18, 2018.
Criticisms
After Albright encouraged patent owners to file claims in the Western District of Texas, one fifth of the nation's patent cases were filed in the district.[9] On September 24, 2021, the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit rebuked Albright for refusing to follow the law limiting federal judges from retaining cases that should be transferred to another jurisdiction.[10] On October 21, 2021, the Federal Circuit issued a writ of mandamus transferring another patent case that Judge Albright oversaw because of his prior denial of transfer. The Federal Circuit's opinion rebuked Albright's continuous denial of transfers from the Western District.[11]
Due to Albright's actions, on November 2, 2021, Senators Thom Tillis and Patrick Leahy wrote a bipartisan letter asking Chief Justice John G. Roberts to direct the Judicial Conference of the United States to "conduct a study of actual and potential abuses" that result from an "absence of adequate rules regulating judicial assignment and venue for patent cases within a [single judicial] district.".[12][13] The letter criticized Albright for having "openly solicited cases at lawyers' meetings" and for having "repeatedly ignored binding case law and abused his discretion," noting that Albright's decisions "resulted in a flood of mandamus petitions" being filed and granted "no fewer than 15 times in just the past two years.".[13]
Punitive docket stripping
Faced with mounting criticism from scholars, Senators, and the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, on July 25, 2022, Chief Judge Orlando Garcia stripped Albright of the patent docket for cases assigned to his duty station in Waco.[14] The reassignment order allocates patent cases filed in Waco - nowhere else - to be randomly split among twelve of the judges of the Western District of Texas, reducing Albright's case load to approximately 8% of patent cases filed in Waco. The order does not reallocate patent cases filed in other divisions of the Western District, and only affects the Waco division.[14] Chief Judge Garcia's order is widely viewed by practitioners as signaling the demise of the Western District as a major patent venue.[2]
I have been read more referencing the two senators plus Chief Judge Orlando L. Garcia of the Western District of Texas, Judge Orlando issued an order which says due to the increased volume of new patent cases assigned to Waco, all patent cases filed on or after Monday must be randomly distributed among the 12 district judges of the Western District, which stretches from Waco to Austin, San Antonio and El Paso. https://wacotrib.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/judges-order-aims-to-end-patent-case-boom-in-wacos-federal-court/article_704f828a-0d3c-11ed-b4c5-e7434b393747.html
To me this sounds like JA had better side with HDC on keeping the original case going but I still see JA as throwing the case out again....I hope I'm wrong because if it is throw out or aloud to relate back, sounds to me that a new case must be filed and no way in hell can HDC or our Attorney's keep this fight going forever?
What do you investors think about this?
...and yes I know the links are basically the same.
So how do we look at this?...... https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/us-court-moves-break-west-texas-judges-hold-patent-cases-2022-07-26/ link from the yahoo message board.
Seems like there is another nail ready to be driven into our coffin... yes it could actually be good news depending on the findings by JA after 19th of August and if positive I believe in all fairness JA would be obligated to follow the case into trial but for all this to happen is asking the heavens to open up and our luck hasn't ever been too great. Next how long can CEO - Mr. George H. McGovern lll hold his breath.
I wonder if HDC knew about the the change in handling the patent cases. Think about that. Actually the new move will allow JS to cherry pick HDC if he so desires but in order for that to happen we must allow our original case number.
It takes time to do the fins. They should notice SEC that they are working on it and make an official pr at least. Frustrating that there is zero reaction from management.
LocWolf, yes, to be the proberbial fly on the wall...anyone who has anything to gain by this lawsuit is working behind the scenes to make it happen.
But can it happen? I check for news every morning. Getting the filings up to date and trading re-started would be a good start.
Digdeeper...I doubt George will mess with Vennwest or Quirk at this point but we will need a few bucks from someones pocket? I believe the filings will be resolved by the August 15 but mandatory before JA makes his decision.
Ou71764, recall HDC filings such as the Citadel on 12/31/21 and note 12/27/21 up to the 31 st filing date. I believe Citadel as I indicated way back had dumped all their shares. Now look at HDC 8-K filing on 3/30/22 referencing HDC management all except Marty Delmonte putting in money to keep the company doors open. On 3/30/22 the 10-K should have been filed. OK, so maybe George now plans to file the two 10-Q and one 10-K filing in mid August. That should satisfy the powers to be. It has to be about available money and not timing of any decision by JA in Texas. I wonder what pocket are they looking in, to satisfy the need and at what cost. George will need to cut a deal with Marty unless things are so bad with possible legal issues within that he just wants to steer clear of George. Could you just image the stress going on within HDC and at the Philly households.
The so called trade this morning or what we see? how is that that public traders are not to be able to see the trades nor do and trading. Seems to me the dealers are at play and just might want shares. I generally don't believe in that BS but since they are allowing us to see the shares move the share price what else can one say. Yes this is BS and not consistent with the rules. "Looks like rules for me but not for thee" BS
Look, anyone who really thinks the share price is .0011 or whatever is totally lost so don't even believe what you are seeing!
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