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Reasonable! Thanks!!!
A Canadian and British listed stock exchanged stock counts with different fiat rates have to be adjusted, lots of filing is needed. Additionally both companies with a LOI can ask for additional info, filings made... it isn't like the LOI happens by itself either, Investors have to vote after further investigations, legal work being firmed up. A number of 6 companies are being joined up, why the impatience?
Why hasn't trading resumed? Was this a pump&dump? Perils of penny stocks I suppose!!!!!!
Seems the hawkers with the inside info have gone MIA.
Dragon Fly has been draggin its fly long enough.
Announcement on Acquisition of Sativa. Notice comments on lawsuit against Dragonfly too
https://apnews.com/1981896814a291f513836ad77805a251
Maybe we have a merger taking place with PEMTF
Why is this not trading today ?
oh I see its been halted pending news ????
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VANCOUVER, April 17, 2020
VANCOUVER, April 17, 2020 /CNW/ - The following issues have been halted by
IIROC:
Company: StillCanna Inc.
CSE Symbol: STIL
Reason: At the request of the Company Pending News
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Planting intentions? Will be planting time in Poland is about a month. I'd like to hear from someone at Stillcanna if the plan is still and increase from 1500 hectares to the projected 3000 in 2020.
Well today is very strange for this stock hmm.................
insiders buying it all up
Lmao "where can I get a nickel bag for medicinal reasons?"
Well I am working from home and its quite everywhere my last contact with IR did not tell me anything(two weeks ago)- I was complaining and he said they have done everything they have said they would do
I told him except build shareholder value and show some sales.
I told him they have looked like any other pink sheet scam going from 1.00 to a nickel he said I am sorry you feel that way lol
The good news is we have found a bottom here at .05 I probably should not have said that either. This is long position anyway so maybe it will come around down the road. I did buy some cheapies down here.
Stay safe the fog is about to lift imo
Hello catdaddy and all the crew members
Looks like the corona virus has wiped out all communication on the board.
Sure could use a good update or briefing on any aspect of our
business.
Are there any milestones coming up? or how is the harvest coming along? where can I get a nickel bag for medicinal reasons?
Maybe some of our folks will find a few spare moments to write in and say hello.
Until then stay safe,be happy
Hello...hello.......hello........hello...... Stillcanna are you there
lol
I agree 100% be as prepared as you can in this insane time in history. Just seems to be more going on than what we are being told.
Would not surprise me to find out that this was intentional by China but still seems to be more going on than just the virus. Stay inside and stay safe my friend. I am working from home and our company is blessed to still be working.
I think conservation of cash best for the Corona timelines. There is massive commerce reductions everywhere and in this sector.
Coming out the other side I'm pretty sure there will be any number of small CBD companies that went into this economic downturn far worse off than Stil had in reserves. Lots were right on the edge in finances and certainly there will not be much in the way of start up capital for new entrants.... perhaps well into next year.
It is what it is, but I expect a serious down turn in biomass production this year in the industry and a washing out of overproduction stores of CBD distillates in the Industry as well.
We are both older guys, we don't yet know how we will see the Chinese attempt to take over Banking that is about to hit and there is going to be some real frictions in their supply lines of CBD items as well as the rest of the world.
I hope we both get through this with families intact and look to investments as secondary at the moment.
I think their focus is on revenue at this time and no reason to spend more to up-list as bad as I want them to. They are current on their filings on the pink sheets and even have audited financials which is almost unheard of on the pinks- so that does indicate they are operating as a proper company which will help when this thing takes off. I was thinking this summer but now I am thinking longer than that.
No a reverse split is not mandatory from what I know. Just pay fees for filing and produce the necessary financial information. This was a long hold from day one, I would just like to see some value being built for the shareholders - something anything to keep it form going into .000s
which is what I see if things continue the same.
Stock count doesn't mean anything to be OTCBB.
Hey catdaddy
To get off the pinks would involve a reverse split would it not?
Perhaps once the covid virus is tamed people will come back to our stock.
I imagine that pain and depression still need to be dealt with and that our product line deals with those ailments.
I keep seeing ads on this iHUB message board,perhaps a well placed ad would spark interest in this gem.
Hope everyone is staying safe;THIS TO SHALL PASS
Don't know - when I asked IR when they would get off pinks to create some credibility he had no answer. They stay on the pinks they will die like all pinks do imo
info@stillcanna.com
Hello out there in video land
Any of you smart guys have an update or premenition as to what's happening with our stock.
All replies welcome...it seems like it has been more then 10 days since any communicdo
The way to choke the shorts is to create value and run the stock
Having said that I had to buy more yesterday lol. I believe their product will make us money in the end game. I have all the time in the world.
Shorts went from >< 10,000 to >< 100,000 as I see it is indication of average daily shorting having increased 10 fold in a one month period. Just to say, hard to develop value when average trading involves 2/3rd trading daily volume to be short and cover, sell and buys, So yeah, had the Issue gone to OTCBB and eliminated CSE and German platforms I think the Issue would have had a healthier outcome so far.
Yikes not sure why scnnf has not built any value but they did balk when I asked them about getting off the pinks to create some credibility. This drop with the big board is unwarranted and smells to me.Well it was a throw of the dice all along - see you in a couple of months I have to buy some bloody oil stocks!!!!! No Fear
Yeah with the current status I'll get a few more this and next week. With two licensed plants capable of >< 150 million dollars worth of grams at full retail pricing per month one would think this President could get something going. I wouldn't be surprised if a buyout happens for that matter... like CWBHF or CRON or even a Pharm- GWPH or Canopy Growth Corp.
Right now at .10, cash and equipment are worth more that the valuation!
The new president looks to be a great asset for the company.Gave me confidence to purchase a few more shares.Thanks to you Drdoggs we are all better informed on this companies goings on,please keep your posting.
The LOI is off the table but we have Origin now coming on line...
Looked at the new President? Really knows IPOs, Mergers and acquisitions. Stil was fortunate to have him consulting, now very lucky as Pres. Worked on the IPOs of German sportswear manufacturer Adidas and chemicals firm Merck. Van Issum worked on the Eu10.1bn privatization of Deutsche Telekom in 1996 and Eu720m IPO of Portugal Telecom. Has done placements for Heidelberger Druck, Linde and Amadeus, European ECM Dream Team Global Capital 2004, out of the markets 2007 well off, bike riding around the world saying he would never go back to the city life(Rat race?), started a fun Excursion ultimate adventure company till 2010. Turns out he is a big fan of CBDs!
Came on as a consultant for Stillcanna, now President,'never say never' back into 'City life'!!
Things have a way of working themselves out...
Somebody run the numbers on this..
50+ years ago my Father introduced me to Stock vesting when I was 12. The 1st thing he did was make me understand financials. Laborious process for a 12 year old. When I asked why, he said don't invest in something you don't understand.
With the LOI in MOTA there are things I don't understand. I asked for clarification from Jason as to the PEI/Origin, where profits go to in everything, MOTA Jvs.. 'Tolling'.. MOTA paid for cash company... We only have one 'MOTA' company with a said unaudited sales, will Stils last years sales be credit to WHOEVER files fanancials...MOTA? MOTA is so young the Nov 29, 2019 Interim means about nothing.
What are these people actually working on.. where is their cash flows? Any reporting?
Mota Ventures Corp. is pleased to announce that its wholly owned subsidiary Ihuana S.A.S ("Ihuana") has entered into a research cooperation agreement (the "Agreement") with La Fundacion Universitaria de Ciencias de la Salud (The University Foundation of Health Sciences) (the "University") located in Bogota, Colombia. Pursuant to the Agreement, the parties intend to engage in research and formulation of medicinal products made with non-psychoactive cannabis and cannabis byproducts.
Sativida and First Class CBD brands and reporting WHERE?( First Class CBD (then, a division of Unified Funding, LLC) realized approximately C$28.7 million in revenue with an EBITDA of approximately 12.5%)
The LOI has MOTA raising ?5 mill @ .45 PP to get close to Stl's cash holding? At 1.8 ratio? For some infrastructure?
I mean REALLY! And I asked for clarification, I was a little blunt, Jason was a little blunt.... Jason said he was going to present something before LOI was exposed but an unexpected happened and required Jason to halt and report LOI. He said he would give us something.
Bottom line for me, I cannot put more in as a 'Investment' till I know more. Maybe I'll trade some with additional funds, but don't INVEST on unknown/not understood structures.
If someone with more experience can help us out as to how this whole Tolling thing works and more info I'll change my mind.
For now I've still got every share I ever bought.
Heck, I don't even know how the salaries get paid, from MOTA or ongoing in each sub?
Fwiw, large traders traded this down based on 1.8' Of MOTA SP, then MOTA moved down, Stil moved down... and total transactions look matched ><, over two days- pretty stupid panic move it looks to me(Clusterfuck). Same people sold, then bought back lower??!! What if the LOI doesn't go through?
If you are brave go for it, the LOI caught me flatfooted.
So Drmaddog
What is some good advise now that we are below .10
Is it time to grab a bunch or lay back for awhile?
TIA
Did some research on MOTA after the announcement of LOI. I had never heard of them. Reading their news releases from the past few months and what they are putting together I can see where STIL would fit in their organization.
I didn't leave. I haven't any windows open to count all 3 exchanges but the one TD platform I do have open showed 1 mill shares transacted(><) with pretty steady buying from noon on. I suspect panic selling with LOI showing share exchange 1.8 ratio in the merger LOI.
Fwiw, there was a unexpected situation that caused the halt 2 days ago, to get the insert of news about the LOI yesterday and restart, to comply with regs concerning disclosure of relevant/material changes.
The Halt, the news, the 'relevant'... were a response to 'unexpected situation' so there was no preparing stock holders in any form of presentation- imo- leading to over reaction...almost even now few traders have looked at the issues, assets or companies involved. Any, in what one could call a kind of reverse merge, having less than majority company position is seen as bad situation, and 'seeing' doesn't seem to have even counted any thing but the '1.8.'.
Blogosphere results were pushing MOTA sp as guidance, MOTO holders didn't like a 45%??... loss in dilutive LOI so they sold off some in a even more thinly traded issue than Stil… which had bashers calling for ever lower prices, back and forth, back and forth with calls for Stil to be valued by Mota sp.
Then today another voluntary halt, might be regulatory agency requests for additional info on LOI as it wasn't exactly planned to be presented as it was, it maybe just more info to be presented by Stil and MOTA as to the LOI... BELATIDLY!!
It may be a rescind of LOI entirely considering the nature of the response by share holders to, lolol.
Which would be sort of ironic wouldn't it, a withdrawn LOI based on market reaction due to poor presentation!
Good thing Stillcanna has their 2 plants, Origin and Nexus already equipped... might slow Horizon- yet to be built but there suppliers outside of China for each component.
Fwiw, this virus(Sars) has a relatively low death rate where all the exclamations about 'Pandemic' statements are being made and already one or more companies are going into trials for solutions.. this number will grow to 6-7 over the next week or so.
While Media doesn't give very good coverage, and are using data showing FDA requirements are that 'solutions' and 'trials' can take years for clickbait, the truth is if the need is there the solution will roll out to match the need, timewise.
If there are little to no ill effects in the trials over the next 2-4 weeks, rollouts will happen.
It is just a bad flu type,antiviral medications are currently being tested to see if they can address symptoms.
Imo, some of the best opportunities in the markets since 2009 will unfold in this mess. Electronics for one... for sure. Both in recovery in China and development outside of China.
Frankly, this paradigm of China being the mass producer for the entire world was going to be reduced at some point for a number of reasons, political or in this case a medical concern.
For our subsector China's disruption in their Hemp/CBD chains will actually be a good thing this and next year. Where all the 'exclamations' are a thing of the past in 3-4 months due to rollouts of solutions.
Pot Stocks Pandemic: Financial Markets Tumble as Coronavirus Concerns Intensify, These Cannabis Stocks Could Get Hit the Worst
https://www.thecannabisinvestor.ca/pot-stocks-pandemic-financial-markets-tumble-as-coronavirus-concerns-intensify-these-cannabis-stocks-could-get-hit-the-worst/?mc_cid=b7d6acb47b&mc_eid=70180fa067
Doing some digging I found that Dragonfly Biosciences, Stillcanna's partner in the Romanian 'Origin' CBD plant is about to rollout a "Cosmetic" line of products. This will definitely be an expansion in CBDs needed and a very fortuitious developement for Stillcanna. Utilizing CBDs inside of 'Cosmetics' can be refered to as 'Nutricosmetics'.
White Paper excerpt:
Cannabidiol (CBD)
The ingredient really expected to boom in 2019 is CBD. Nutraceutical companies as well as food and beverage companies are looking to include this ingredient in their products. It’s expected to make a big impact on the functional food industry, and supplement companies have already started incorporating it into their formulas. The numbers are encouraging, and it might seem like CBD is a goldmine, however, there are a lot of risks along with the benefits for companies to consider.
(White Paper)
Top Nutraceutical Trends of 2019
While hemp might be a valid ingredient for some foods and dietary supplements, CBD, at least in the U.S., most definitely is not.2 In 2018, the FDA approved a drug containing CBD to treat seizures, and other drugs containing CBD are undergoing clinical trials. Since the FDA has approved the ingredient for use in a drug product, it falls outside of the definition of a dietary supplement. And since these products and the many conditions that they’re supposed to be able to treat are at the top of the FDA’s priority list, including CBD in a dietary supplement is a major risk. The agency has stated that it takes multiple factors into consideration before deciding whether or not to initiate an enforcement action against companies marketing these products. However, the plethora of warning letters issued to companies selling supplements containing CBD should serve as a cautionary tale.
(California may well change this paradigm as early as end of March 2020 with changes in regs placed via Bill #64)
Trend #2: Nutricosmetics Another trend that is picking up momentum in 2019 is the concept of “beauty from within.” This is the idea that what we ingest can have a direct bearing on our physical appearance. Since this involves nutraceuticals branching into the cosmetics market, these supplements have been aptly named nutricosmetics. Perhaps the best-known example of this is collagen, which has long been a supplement meant to improve the appearance of skin, hair, and nails.
If some of these nutricosmetics have been around for years, why should they be a trend for 2019? For one thing, the market is already valued at $121 billion globally and should reach $179 billion by 2022,1 which represents a nearly 50 percent increase. Another reason is that there’s a huge opportunity in the generation that’s moving into this market. Anti-aging products are traditionally marketed to those who are already showing signs of aging, or those who will be soon. The success of nutricosmetics depends on an entirely different age group and involves preventing those wrinkles or age spots from appearing in the first place.
With Nutraceuticals AND Nutricosmetics commerce there is a 1/4 Trillion dollars of commerce... Stillcanna is rolling out formulas to apply to EACH commerce Stream.
"Beverages" will get attention next.
Now we will enter the time of revenues. Unknown to most investors is that DragonFly has been taking Private Placements, about 50 million so far, that will be spent on their product buildout. Products made from Origin(Some no doubt from Nexus) and Stillcanna. DragonFly, a private company, has access to >< 5000 'doors' in the E.U., will go public I figure later this year or early 2021. Lost in the background noise is that Origin was always designed to be a provider of "net profits" base customer/Dragonfly enabling Stillcanna a burn rate modifier towards all 3 planned plants buildouts. I expect somewhere between 12 and 24 million a year revs from Origin to Stil for the first YOY production. Other people told me to be patient as to earnings- wait till end of 1st quarter for revs/2020 March and they seem to have been correct. All things taken into account I am awaiting Horizon plant buildout confirmation. Tripling capacity of the two present plants come 2021. With this in mind, 2021, I am looking to see a modulation in SP and actually wish it to not go above .50 for another 60-90 days, so to eliminate 10 million plus in warrants being taken. Just me being greedy. Stil may need the sale of the warrants and nets from same, maybe over the next 1/4- through June.. we just don't know yet... which will be priced well above .50.. but we will see.. so with a tripling of production comes the need for more 'dragonflys'/customer base. some changes are coming to the U.S. markets, first will be California... and we know what that will imply:)
Finally!!! Ministry of Health in Romania gives approval for Origin plant... #2 CBD Stillcanna plant will come on line! https://www.accesswire.com/576790/Stillcannas-Romanian-Based-ORIGIN-CBD-Extraction-Facility-Receives-Green-Light-from-Ministry-of-Health-and-Anti-Drug-AgencyThis timing is very advantageous as Stillcanna's partner for the England markets where limitations in growth rates of CBDs was being affected by the U.K. Food Safety government department to where there had been no, zero, nada, nothing guidelines about dosages. Causing great confusion about safety for consumers.That changed last week, maximum daily dosages(done via COT panel evaluations on toxicity) was established, along with labeling requirements! This is huge for the U.K. markets and for the world which has yet to address the matter in this manner.1.6 million CBD users in the U.K. will grow quite a lot, knowing safety guidelines now... and Dragonfly and Stillcanna are poised to service that industry market with virtually any combinations of CBDs Dragonfly wishes for.
Yes, the US/Can will probably follow with something of the same...$SCNNF
One can go on the major sites that sell bulk orders of the various applications, where as many as 100 variations exist for CBD products.. Nutraceuticals being one area that has 100 billion$+ just in the U.S. market. Bulk sales of Isolated CBDs converted to Nano particles, then encapsulated and placed into Emulsions is the general method. To say, all together, all over the world a potential trillion dollar of commerce may happen where CBDs can be entered into the products.
MEANWHILE!! the U.K. FSA(Food Safety) authority finally came out with its first guidelines(Derived from the COT Panel evaluations)- 70 mgs maximum recommended daily. Not a huge number but >< 2xs what was generally 'recommended' by most sellers previously or matching the sellers already defined 'maximum'. Standards for labeling, pregnancy,lactating age medical claims contents ect ect also follow what the Industry wants in 'self regulation'. 'The Association for the Cannabinoid Industry (ACI) has welcomed todays regulatory and precautionary advice'(Dragonfly is a major participator in the ACI) this will lead to faster growth in consumption in the U.K. now. Looking forward to the California bill(64 or whatever # assigned to the Proposal)) to get on the Governors desk(by end of March?) where I would not be surprised to see something of the same situation as in the U.K. currently ;)
Lots of consolidation in the well overblown MJ stocks for sure. Way too high of prices for way too low of net nets in most companies that paid way too much for ancillary buyouts and taking on debt and dilutions... all in my own opinion of course.
On the CBD side I believe regulatory headwinds have had more to do with the sector than actual buildouts of companies specific to CBDs.
But both subsets of products are still gaining growth in use, CBDs eventually will get more growth imo.
Stil just got its sales going, don't know the ongoing costs for production for certain and how effective the B2B Broker Dealer networks will respond, but we should know pretty well in this quarter how going forward things will generally shake out.
I'm pretty sure at this point everyone is well aware the Canadian Stock Markets sell down any stock that isn't producing product and making sales...
We should see a reversal imo with a growing sales amounts. Have you been following legislations in the U.S.? Seems 'Novel Foods' applications are flooding into the E.U. Commission as well.
You'd be lucky to get $8,000 for all that, plus a nice tax writeoff. What a stinker this stock has been, if anyone actually paid for their shares.
Been a really rough two weeks for MJ/CBD stocks.
I don't know how much DD the average person does... but I found a YouTube channel with the cultivation video raw. The company that was bought by Stillcanna for cultivating Hemp has a number of vids and only the most recent is after being purchased. That vid shows the sizes of different fields, different approaches to loading cuts, different stages of growth in the different fields and a pic of the side of a Hemp bale where I estimate about 600pds+ per bale judging on the compression of the bale.
It helps me understand that the harvest was well above initial planning last spring.
I'm estimating, with last releases on effectiveness, >< 25,000 kilos of Isolation kilos from last years cultivation.
I'm approaching 100K shares also:)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVwOCZ-gRtSp2Axd6LAHK4w
Thanks Dr Maddog
You keep this board alive and interesting.Your updates give confidence to those who may be failing.
I have broken the 100,000 mark and continue to have a healthy outlook thanks to you.
Please continue your research and phone calls and let us know how it's coming along....thanks again
For what it is worth, I played 'phone tag'/twitter with Jason this morning and he is in Toronto making a presentation, other management is progressing through Ministry of Health in Romania for a time frame on licensing(for Origin), the Nexus plant in Poland is still on 60 hour 12/7 shifts with the non Kilo production hours(other 12 hours a day) having the plant upgraded/get GMP and other qualifications and plant is operating smoothly. I have queried about the B2B/Broker dealer response and other Items but it is not information he will put out unless in general release.
bar180, when the company has 2 shifts... or 24/7 operation at Nexus the product valuation will be such as to provide ><15 Cents per share nets income imo. Not {13} cents per share nets income... and the market will take notice. Sorry if I wasn't more clear. Does that meet with your approval now?
From the News of Dec. 12 About 40 kilos per day production on 12/7 basis and the company going to 24/7 basis in this Q1 of 2020 with 80 kilos per day production and measuring a market for bulk CBDs at only $2,000 per kilo(not seen this low yet) we see a 50 million dollar YOY product creation with a constant dropping of unit production cost. I'm going out on a limb here.. to say we may well see a ongoing(before dedicating net net profits back into the company) a 'Net profit of about 15 cents per share on just the Nexus plant for YOY.
As to what that might be comparable in the CBD space,,,, Charlottesweb had about the same Nets' in 2018. With Origin coming on line soon, a equaling of 2019 Charlottesweb Nets I expect. With the buildout of the next plant, Horizon scheduled for this spring and summer, Stil should be producing roughly the same quantity, quality and slightly lower cost per Kilo than Charlottesweb and Mile High- leaders in the CBD space, for 2021.
How everything shakes out with these 'Big 3" and each competing with each other remains to be seen... but it is becoming very apparent many small producers are going to have to leave the creation space... leaving creation more and more this year to the large bulk producers... they simply will not have economy of size even producing at 100 kilo per year levels.
There is no telling of how the 'Market' will respond to any stock, but 15 cents net per share and a bright future is a fine starting point to gain attention.
For those even marginally curious why Stil put the new Rotochrome(estimated cost at 850,000$ per unit) in the Origin plant, why so much has been spent on consulting, why the Romanian are unaware of this relatively new technology..
http://rotachrom.com/videos/
" RotaChrom’s patented downstream platform is capable of direct Scale up in a few weeks: from grams/batch to tons/month production all on the same machine"
"iCPC
The largest centrifugal partition chromatographic instrument in the world. RotaChrom is the sole manufacturer and distributor of the industrial scale CPC instrument and provides various products and services facilitating downstream silica gel free preparative industrial scale production. Buying an iCPC device provides many technical and economic advantages to your current and future downstream method development."
http://rotachrom.com/products/
State of the art, 5 cents per gram, operationally capable of being tuned to separation not only of pesticides and THC for CBD... but also CBG and CBN molecules... which will be the next 'big thing' in Cannabinol products.
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