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Hi Shiv,
Thanks for the follow up in a rather hectic day, the D-Day indeed! Here are the links to letters and docs in your earlier post that were inactive but they just worked this AM. Attached here again for others to review if interested:
Falcon’s latest “proposal” that it presented to the Company in October, began with the false premise that its option entitled it to 84.9% of all shareholder value for very little consideration. (This https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l6JLdHlYl1xZ0giWLcm9KA-rWyeJZYij/view is on our website.)
The Company filed a https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wdHw6t5AaAQaw5hPFPV2ONXulQ5XbKPm/view against both
AdHoc—what file couldn’t you access? My apologies.
All, as promised, the meeting can be observed by shareholders of record. The information has been posted to our website. For your convenience, it is here also:
The adjourned meeting will resume tomorrow 12/6 at 10:30am central time.
Please call (877)-270-2148 and ask to be connected to the Golden Mountain Financial call.
You may also view the meeting at this link: https://qa6.choruscall.com/contexweb/ViewQA/loginSortQA.htm
Provisional ballot for 2nd largest holder?
Clock is ticking…
EI and Freddie are the moderators of this forum and trusted by the folks here. Some if not most of the members here are apparently major (6-figure ownership or 6-7 figure representation) of the shares and would like to see this forum stay active and to thrive as a venue for exchange of information and materials for the time being until a more formal/secure venue is established by the new TBD board. So I would reiterate their request to share important materials, or working updated links/URLs to materials that are referred to in your conversations. We have not yet seen any abusive or misinformation communications in this forum so we have no reason to distrust the forum unless otherwise proven. For now, given the fast pace of events please share materials/links that are not critically sensitive or prohibited sharing by court order or other governing laws. Some if not all do study and DD such materials and appreciate sharing in advance. BTW Shiv's posts today refer to some Googledocs in a folder that is not accessible by the users. When you share a link or material please make sure it is accessible by the public b'c most docs are protected in the share folders like GoogleDoc folders.
Falcon-just link to letter, thx
if the 2nd largest shareholder can't/doesn't vote, 'that' is a problem imo..
For the avoidance of doubt, the meeting is happening tomorrow. As Falcon alluded to yesterday, Falcon obtained a temporary restraining order from a court in NY based on assertions we believe are false. We are confident that when the court sees all the facts the TRO will be lifted when we are able to present our case to the court later this month. Also, Falcon has taken affirmative steps to prevent the second largest shareholder from voting for our slate or providing proxy. We believe this is completely inappropriate and we are dealing with it.
In any case, as a result of these circumstances, we will vote on as many items as we are able to. We are working with our attorneys as to what those items are. IF we can't vote on some items, we will adjourn and set the meeting to reconvene after we anticipate the TRO will be lifted.
Later today, we will be posting to our website (and I will also post here) details for an institutional-quality call-in line for everyone that's interested to observe the meeting. I want everyone to see what we are doing, and what Falcon chooses to do at the meeting.
Some explanation is required here:
We did send materials out describing the deals we did coming out of bankruptcy. However, it turns out that the transfer agent didn't have contact information for 40-50% of the shareholder base as the result of an administrative error that occurred with the TA, or one of the other firms involved (e.g., Broadridge) -- we can't tell for sure. In any case, no materials made it to any of those shareholders.
We did not become aware of this omission until preparing for this annual meeting. Those issues are now sorted, and we can get mailings out to all of you.
I have been thinking about ways to make sure the shareholder base remains in much closer touch, is aware of what we are doing, and can provide feedback and ask questions. If our slate wins, we expect to offer some existing large holders board observation rights, which will allow them to attend most board functions and see most materials presented to the board, and also to make sure they have a direct line into the company.
Sorry that many of you were left in the dark for so long. That time is passed!
Thanks for all your support and let's get the votes done tomorrow that we can.
We have and do treat shareholders as the PRIMARY concern. You have my word. That's why I've been working so hard on this for so many years.
I invite scrutiny into our plan and Falcon's plan.
If Falcon were to win the vote and execute what they represent as their plan (let alone worse) all shareholders can (and should) investigate a suit.
The suit the company filed against Falcon already is a template of what that shareholder suit could look like. See it here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wdHw6t5AaAQaw5hPFPV2ONXulQ5XbKPm/view
Falcon's directors already prevented OpCo from defending itself against Falcon. If Falcon wins the HoldCo board, we have no reason to expect Falcon won't withdraw the HOldCo suit against Falcon. If that happened, shareholders would have to defend ourselves.
If our slate wins the vote tomorrow, FNBCQ shareholders WILL NOT get wiped out, and I expect they will make significant returns. We have a great plan, great companies we can acquire, and we are building a pipeline of additional attractive deals. Our goal is to make the company into a major operating company that generates significant cashflow.
To start with: Falcon cannot have any proof of an inside deal with me, as there isn't one. Falcon and individuals at Falcon are risking a defamation lawsuit from me on this matter. There is no such deal.
Second, our plan makes all shareholders interests (and all of us are shareholders at HoldCo) the PRIMARY concern for every decision we make. In our deal, OpCo will be exchanging newly issued shares for ownership of two real businesses. You can call that dilution, but it's really not -- it's highly accretive since we are exchanging that stock for a huge preference AND 50% equity on both businesses -- uncapped upside. Falcon's plan calls for heavy dilution to all shareholders.... so that Falcon can own more of the company at other shareholders expense.
I think there is no reasonable doubt that our plan has a greater expected value for shareholders.
FNBCQ shareholders going to wipe out ? we should build a fnbc shareholder group.
I also have been here since about the beginning of this board sitting in silence!!!! I also own a good bit of this stock probably more than most!! I just want a straight forward answer to where we would benefit the most because personally if I believe that either group is doing wrong then I’ll meet you in court with my own money & attorneys!!!!!!!
I also have been here since about the beginning of this board sitting in silence!!!! I also own a good bit of this stock probably more than most!! I just want a straight forward answer to where we would benefit the most because personally if I believe that either group is doing wrong then I’ll meet you in court with my own money & attorneys!!!!!!!
EI's nightmare experience with repeated cycles of dilution of shares that are in some cases picked up by hidden partners of the board or other insiders are the real enemy of the ordinary shareholders. Neither party has so far been willing to talk about their intent and the extent of such dilution. Now that the Wednesday meeting is already neutralized by the TRO (I guess), shareholders have the opportunity to ask more important questions in particular demanding for meaningful guarantees that would cap the ability of the new control group, whoever they might be, to dilute their way out in blocks of 10s of millions each round to "raise capital for necessary expenses" as is always the case. As I said earlier, the only silver lining of the TRO is to offer the shareholder a slim chance to explore the current and alternative plans by other party before they cast their vote again. EI and all, if you too envision an inconclusive Wednesday meeting, what are the asks from Shiv and TS Falcon in the meantime before we get a new more transparent slate to vote for? Dilution intent and extent is what comes to mind for now. BTW does anyone know the true details of TR Falcon proposal for the Opco? until now all have have seen is angry shouts of "he said she said" with no details of the biz proposals to review and compare side by side. To be fair we know relatively better the intent and plan set forward by Shiv and co but little to none from the TS partners. But again there is little safeguards against reckless dilution in the proxy proposal either. Also wondering what solid proof does TS has wrt new control group's hidden deal with the M&A parties.
I have been posting on this board since 10/20/16. It was only four days old at the time. I had been following the story even longer.
There were long periods of time without any news. Some of us here did the leg work to share. We have recently been flooded with information (and maybe some disinformation). And now all shareholders have to make a quick decision on who to trust.
It would have been nice to get at least one shareholder letter since exiting Chapter 11. Why did both sides keep shareholders in the dark? Don't answer. This is not may first rodeo. And we know that this is how things get done by those in control.
I am involved in two other deals where stakeholders have suffered. In one case, being silent actually backfired when the SEC decided to delist, which put an end to a subsidiary buying back paper at a large discount to par. I digress.
Lawyers are expensive. You could have saved everyone a great deal of time and money.
Thank you for confirming.
I’m sure some, if not all of us, have also been involved in deals where the new control group ended up enhancing their own stakes by heavily diluting existing shareholders.
If I was in a similar situation, I would ensure that all shareholders were treated as an equal partner.
Falcon is indeed the largest shareholder of the Company. (I believe the author of this article to be Falcon's manager Josh Koplewicz. As Falcon often states, its “control position” entitles Falcon to capture the vast majority of the economics of any transaction leaving other shareholders with scraps. Falcon’s latest “proposal” that it presented to the Company in October, began with the false premise that its option entitled it to 84.9% of all shareholder value for very little consideration. (This https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l6JLdHlYl1xZ0giWLcm9KA-rWyeJZYij/view is on our website.)
The Company filed a https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wdHw6t5AaAQaw5hPFPV2ONXulQ5XbKPm/view against both Falcon and its complicit board directors.
As I described in the letter to you, Falcon used their director appointees to block the Company from filing suit against Falcon on the loan (more on that below). If Falcon gets board control, history suggests that Falcon’s first order of business will be to dismiss this suit against them. This suit could be worth huge value to shareholders.
Falcon's economic expectations vs. other investors, and Falcon's brazen attempts to grab other shareholders' value, should be considered in the context of any Falcon proposal.
Falcon's post makes several inaccurate statements while carefully adding in "I believe" qualifiers to avoid legal exposure. In only three paragraphs here, he manages to share a litany of misinformation:
1. “Falcon has invested more capital and owns more shares in the Company than any other single party. We therefore have every interest in identifying and executing a value maximizing transaction that would benefit all shareholders.” This is not true!
FNBCQ shareholders own shares at HoldCo,, not OpCo. Falcon’s false premise per the linked options notice is that that its option entitles him to 84.9% ownership of Opco. That means before HoldCo shares receive a penny, 84.9% of the economics are absorbed by Falcon. After Falcon’s debt is paid off, and the US Treasury preferred is paid, HoldCo shareholders would receive $0 in most circumstances. Falcon, should it gain control of the boards, will have its board members uncritically approve such a deal. This is absolutely a “zero sum game”. That is why we've been fighting them so hard.
2. “We believe the management of the Company has repeatedly given you misinformation and failed to disclose material information (including detailed information regarding what discussions Shiv Govindan has had about an ongoing paid position and other personal benefits at a merged company if the Halsa deal were to be approved.” I have fully disclosed in the Company’s proxy notice what my compensation is and shareholders have been given the opportunity to vote on this. There is a proposal that I would receive a $150,000 annual salary, deferred indefinitely until the Company has available proceeds. The Company is also seeking approval for an option pool of which some proportion, as agreed to by the board, would be granted to me. Should this be approved, per several previous posts, th options will deliver us value only if shareholders first receive at least a dollar a share. We believe this arrangement aligns the board and management with its shareholder base.
I have no deal to receive any other payments from any other parties. Any implication that I have any other deal is inaccurate and misleading.
3. “Mr. Govindan has also routinely directed the Company to violate the terms of our binding agreements.” Falcon filed suit in Delaware in June for such violations. It dropped the suit last Friday, presumably due to its new counsel determining that its claims were weak. Additionally, Falcon, as part of a deliberate scheme, made complying with its loan agreement impossible with the goal of extracting further economics and concessions from the Company and its shareholders. In October, the Company attempted to end this abuse by filing a lawsuit against Falcon in New York regarding Falcon’s abusive lending practices. Falcon’s complicit and self-dealing directors (at least one of whom is an investor in the loan), blocked the suit from being filed. If our OpCo board slate passes, filing this suit will be one of the first actions the Company will take. This will benefit all shareholders significantly.
4. “Over a month ago we wrote a letter to shareholders regarding what we believe to be fraudulent and wrongful conduct management and Shiv Govindan have engaged in toward Falcon and requested that management forward it to all shareholders. We now understand they did not distribute it. We then requested a shareholder list with contact information, so that we could send the letter ourselves. Again, they refused to comply with our request in violation of both our agreements.” Falcon sent an email to the board attaching such a letter. In the email, Koplewicz stated “In advance of the board meeting tomorrow – please find the attached letter clarifying TS Falcon’s position. This is being shared with shareholders more broadly as well.” At no point did Koplewicz demand that the Company send this letter to its shareholders and, in any case, it was farcical to think that the Company would be obligated to share such misinformation simply to further Falcon’s self-interest. This is a blatant lie by Falcon.
The “inspection rights” Koplewicz refers to expired in April 2021 in one agreement. The other agreement he refers to is the usurious loan which the Company plans to litigate as soon as we take control of the OpCo board (if you vote for our slate).
5. “Last Wednesday, a New York judge issued a restraining order because of management’s course of conduct, which is why last week's shareholder meeting was adjourned without a vote.” The temporary restraining order (TRO) was issued as standard course to allow the court to understand the situation further: it does not imply a judgment. Falcon’s TRO request was littered with lies and inaccuracies but, as Falcon notified the Company of a court appearance only four hours before, the Company had no time to prepare an appropriate response. Falcon also filed a TRO in Delaware in which the Company was able to provide a response. The Delaware court rejected Falcon’s request and allowed the shareholder meeting to proceed.
We look forward to making our case with the court in NY.
6. “We will provide you with our side of the story and why we strongly recommend you vote against their proposed value-destructive, cashless merger with Halsa.” Koplewicz continues his inaccuracies by stating the Halsa transaction is “cashless”. Aside from providing operating businesses with first year EBITDA of over $4 million, Halsa will be required to close with minimum levels of cash to fund working capital. What Koplewicz means by “cashless” is that, in the proposed transaction, Falcon will not be receiving an extortionate cash payment of tens of millions of dollars up front (with other shareholders getting nothing for at least years), which is the only kind of proposal Falcon has approved in the past.
Falcon has misrepresented the TRO to our second largest shareholder telling them, should they vote in favor of the proposals, the violation could result in “imprisonment.” I believe Falcon is a bottom-feeding, unscrupulous investor that will stop at no lengths to disenfranchise other shareholders for its own benefit.
It is critically important that these proposals pass so that we can protect the Company from even further significant damage than Falcon has already caused. It's time to hold Falcon accountable for its actions.
We will take Falcon's post here as an invitation to post further emails, letters, and documents to our website (and I'll link to them here) for you all to judge.
Best,
Shiv
Those were in fact issued in 2018, when the traded price was negligible. We have always struck options way out of the money. We are not trying to be cute at all, we only want to make money if other shareholders are doing well.
I'm about to post a response to the Falcon post.
Finally we have the long overdue check-in from the key player in the game. I don't think you need any introduction in this forum so you are welcome to jump right in and share the very much anticipated "your side of the story" with all. This outreach of yours can become a venue for the very much needed constructive conversation that we will all benefit from. Shareholders here are for the most part professional investors and able to independently and without any bias engage in a business dialog that will eventually become the long overdue road map for the Opco or any other structure that people might have in mind.
To the best of our knowledge, the shareholders here are major and few meaning such dialog is indeed possible and beneficial. I don't however see the future plans to be necessarily mutually exclusive. I know that some people see it as a pure "zero sum game" but we can probably avoid such situation. Parties trying to constantly accuse one another of fraudulent intentions will get us nowhere and will cause the venture to go to hibernation once again.
Proposals, from either party, shall be judged by their financial soundness and revenue generating merits and regardless of their affiliation to parties or even third-parties.
For that matter I believe rushing into a Wednesday meeting with this level of animosity isn't going to benefit anyone.
This forum has proven that it's capable of handling business related issues with attention to details and doing so respectfully. Planning for an open and honest conversation is what the shareholders demand most. Shiv has been open with the forum so far and we would like others to behave the same way and would be respected and listened to equally IMHO.
Finally we have the long overdue check-in from the key player in the game. I don't think you need any introduction in this forum so you are welcome to jump right in and share the very much anticipated "your side of the story" with all. This outreach of yours can become a venue for the very much needed constructive conversation that we will all benefit from. Shareholders here are for the most part professional investors and able to independently and without any bias engage in a business dialog that will eventually become the long overdue road map for the Opco or any other structure that people might have in mind.
To the best of our knowledge, the shareholders here are major and few meaning such dialog is indeed possible and beneficial. I don't however see the future plans to be necessarily mutually exclusive. I know that some people see it as a pure "zero sum game" but we can probably avoid such situation. Parties trying to constantly accuse one another of fraudulent intentions will get us nowhere and will cause the venture to go to hibernation once again.
Proposals, from either party, shall be judged by their financial soundness and revenue generating merits and regardless of their affiliation to parties or even third-parties.
For that matter I believe rushing into a Wednesday meeting with this level of animosity isn't going to benefit anyone.
This forum has proven that it's capable of handling business related issues with attention to details and doing so respectfully. Planning for an open and honest conversation is what the shareholders demand most. Shiv has been open with the forum so far and we would like others to behave the same way and would be respected and listened to equally IMHO.
To whom it may concern; many will be wary to expose their share counts and personal contact information to a random url. It might be more productive on your end to provide an email address @thayerstreet.com?
Falcon has invested more capital and owns more shares in the Company than any other single party. We therefore have every interest in identifying and executing a value maximizing transaction that would benefit all shareholders. We believe the management of the Company has repeatedly given you misinformation and failed to disclose material information (including detailed information regarding what discussions Shiv Govindan has had about an ongoing paid position and other personal benefits at a merged company if the Halsa deal were to be approved). Mr. Govindan has also routinely directed the Company to violate the terms of our binding agreements. We think you should ask yourselves why and want to hear our side of the story.
Over a month ago we wrote a letter to shareholders regarding what we believe to be fraudulent and wrongful conduct management and Shiv Govindan have engaged in toward Falcon and requested that management forward it to all shareholders. We now understand they did not distribute it. We then requested a shareholder list with contact information, so that we could send the letter ourselves. Again, they refused to comply with our request in violation of both our agreements. Considering this brazen course of conduct, Falcon has had no choice but to commence litigation to enforce its rights. Last Wednesday, a New York judge issued a restraining order because of management’s course of conduct, which is why last week's shareholder meeting was adjourned without a vote.
If you are interested in hearing more, please send an email to info@falcon-investor.com including your name and the number of shares you own or control. We will provide you with our side of the story and why we strongly recommend you vote against their proposed value-destructive, cashless merger with Halsa.
We hope to hear from you.
Your response is helpful.
Were these options and warrants ever issued?
Exhibit F: Stock Option and Warrant Disclosures
After Confirmation and the occurrence of the Effective Date, the Debtor contemplates the following awards to officers of FNBC: (i) 400,000 options exercisable at $.50 per share (380,000 of which have vested) to Blake Jones, CRO; (ii) 400,000 options exercisable at $.50 per share (380,000 of which have vested) to Shivan Govidan, CEO; (iii) 400,000 options exercisable at $.50 per share (380,000 of which have vested) to Andrew Nash, CFO; (iv) 50,000 options exercisable at $.50 per share (47,500 of which have vested) to Matt Elsom, Senior Financial Analyst; (v) 50,000 options exercisable at $.50 per share (47,500 of which have vested) to Mark Haden, Business Development Officer.
The payment of (A) cash incentives of $75,000 to each Elsom and Haden, and $100,000 to Andrew Nash and (B) equity incentive awards (in the form of either stock options or SARs) up to 1.1 million shares or equivilents to executive management.
In addition, the issuance of 5-year warrants exercisable from the Effective Date to purchase 600,000 shares at $.3896 per share to Nexxus Holdings, the largest First Round Investor.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=155618546
I’m not trying to open up another can of worms. On the contrary, it shows that strike prices were already being set at higher values than a penny per share.
db7 is right. Finish line is all that matters and must be rewarded so Shiv and co believe they are appreciated accordingly for what they have done and planned to do moving forward. Thursday night, we all gave the vote of confidence above and beyond the "benefit of doubt" for the leadership to move forward with M&A plus a clean and unified Board election. At this juncture all we are asking are:
1) Details of the counterpart's, Falcon that is, proposals for restructuring/cash take over/M&A with their OWN or ELSE businesses/dilution/buy out/control/undermining and destruction/ or whatever that their proposal is for which the NY court saw enough of merit to freeze the process entirely with its overnight restraining order.
2) more transparent dialogue over C-suite expected compensation package. Not as a deal breaker but as a well understood mutual agreement between the shareholders and the leadership.
3) any other necessary info that the shareholders need to know
After all, I still think majority of voters (by share volume I mean) will once again double down on their support as they did earlier prior to the Friday meeting. Nevertheless I think more dialogue and more transparency here is a key wrt the original proxy material proposal, OR any alternative plan for that matter.
We suffered a hick up and the silverlining of all this unexpected hick up is the opportunity for more transparency re what Falcon claims to be a superior deal, plus better details over the compensation pkg for the C-suite.
Shiv seems a reasonable leader and I'd argue that more transparency at this point would certainly benefit him not hurt him.
If I am wrong in what I see here pls correct me and I welcome your constructive feedback as humbly as always.
Yes, must first get this deal across the finish line. Then we can worry about everything else…
‘If’ strike is $1. This should not be an ‘if’. Solid, definitive $1 should have been in the proxy language imo. From what we voted on in the proxy, the strike could end up being $0.01.
The NOL of FNBCQ is worth how much ? Any one ? Thanks.
Thanks Enterprising Investor. If that confusion is the source of the problem, the actual economics are the REVERSE of what people are concerned about.
If the 6.3mm options are granted and struck at $1, that means the recipients have PAY THE COMPANY $6.3mm to purchase the underlying shares.
For those options to deliver a profit of $6.3mm, the shares would have to be worth $1/share ABOVE the strike price' or $2. That is, if a recipient received stock worth $2, but had to pay $1 to receive it, the recipient would net $2-$1=$1.
I became the principal executive officer of the company May 18, 2018. The stock closed that day at $0.059 according to https://stockinvest.us/stock-price/FNBCQ?page=41. Based on outstanding shares at the time, the company had a market value of $1.2mm.
If each common share were worth $2/share fully diluted (inclusive of the dilution of the options and of Falcon's stock) the company would be worth $76.7mm. So that's an increase in market value of $75mm in which each common share is worth 33.9x what it was when I took the proverbial helm.
In that case, it seems fair to me that the team that produced that, including some like me who got paid $0 in current income from 2018 through now, should receive $6mm+.
I'm happy to clarify further if it's helpful.
The source of confusion.
Shareholders are being asked to authorize the issuance of up to 6,394,176 shares to be used for stock options, restricted stock and other equity securities to D&O’s, employees and independent consultants.
Some shareholders may think they are simply handing over $6,394,176 in value.
In reality, grantees normally have to pay cash to exercise options. Most of the remaining forms of compensation outlined in the plan have to be earned over an extended period of time.
There will be no value created for anyone unless the company becomes income producing!
db7 -- I appreciate your being creative, and I am all over aligning maximally. There are issues with stocking out of the money incentives (they actually can reduce alignment if they cause management to take excessive risk to get to lofty outcomes). I would be open to some form of it to those of us receiving large grants, as long as the grant and the structure recognize the sacrifice I/we have made since 2017.
AdHocInvestor: Neither Matt nor I ever "worked" at the old bank. I was an independent director. Matt worked for me at the private equity firm that made the investment in the Bank when it started up in 2006. We are not comparing salaries to bank salaries. The $200k figure for Matt is a fraction of what he could receive doing something else. It's very generous of him to be willing to work for that given that he hasn't been paid for a huge amount of work over the last three years.
Re $6mm... I don't understand where you are getting that from. I don't recall that figure being anywhere in the proxy statement. (Perhaps I'm wrong, but if it's in there it's not in context of paying management).
The proxy asks for $200k/year salary for Matt. Per year, not multi year. It asks for $150k/year for me, also only per year. As in, if we quit doing what we are doing or the board fires us, we cease receiving that compensation. Also, shareholders have a further protection. The shareholders aren't approving an agreement, they are authorizing the company to employ us, and any salary arrangement will have to be approved by the board.
The only way Matt, I and others on the team can make anything in the seven figures is if through the options. Again, shareholders aren't approving a grant to us. They are authorizing the company to create the pool and for the Board to grant them. If the value of the stock does not appreciate, any options grant will be worth $0. If we are making seven figures, the stock will have appreciated a boatload.
You guys are all focused on the wrong thing IMO.
i would be all for a tiered structure such as: 5% vest at $1, 5% vest at $2, 5% vest at $3, 5% vest at $4... 'that' is shareholder alignment.....
I too would like to reiterate DB7s concern re the real magnitude of the C-suite's comps. And I do not think comparing the current ask w what FNBC used to pay is even appropriate. So there is a real demand from shareholders for transparency here. If the comp adds up to north $6 mil then I think we should have all known it before submitting the "For" votes of confidence. Nobody is against a solid incentive system for a risk bearing Opco but what is the optimal figure honestly and how off is the ask from this optimal?
For the avoidance of doubt, we did disclose their slate in the proxy materials. We followed all our obligations under the bylaws and under DE law. (They made this claim in DE and it was thrown out!) There is absolutely no justification for a TRO on that issue.