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Again...many stocks also gain with RS...we never know. hope.
I'm with you, sawdin.
Look out below.
Without financials and verifiable pr's, my guess is that it wil sink like a rock.
GLTA,
Dino
Prediction
pre -split .0001 05/11/2005.
Post -split .10
ONE WEEK LATER -- .05
RESULT - LESS SHARES - LESS VALUE
If they would have just posted financials, a 2 to 1 split would have been better
Prediction
pre -split .0003 end of year.
Post -split .33
No real difference except less shares to trade/track/multiply
Many stocks actually go up after RS. Some go down. We don't know. This one might be the one to go up...We don't know. Hope.
I regret to say that I agree with you on the loss. Up then way down. I thought about buying back in but am going to wait - beleave it will be a lot cheaper a month from now.
I will only 50 shares left after this rs
My guess is that after the split, it will open at 5 cents, down 50% and immediately drop to 1 cent for a loss of 90% for the day.
Check out ITWJ (formerly ITDJ) for how this works.
From 10 to 20 cents... I vote for your prediction!
IF you have 2 mil shares you will have 2000 shares at the same value. I guess the share price will move up to about .20 cents a share.
Well, at 0001 how can it be wrong? Didn't MSEP have a R/S?
GXXL RS 1 share for every thousand - glad I didn't buy more maybe I'll buy some now...
Malers Automation and Control to Execute Reverse Split
Tuesday May 10, 10:00 am ET
HADERA, Israel, May 10, 2005 (PRIMEZONE) -- Malers Automation and Control Ltd. (``Malers') (Other OTC:GXXL.PK - News) today announced that the Company will effectuate a reverse split of 1,000 shares to one, effective as of May 16, 2005.
ADVERTISEMENT
The Board of Directors of Malers is executing this reverse split to bring the stock price to a more attractive level in the market. The number of outstanding shares will be reduced by a factor of 1,000 and the price of each share will be increased proportionately, meaning that each shareholder will still maintain the same value of his or her shares.
``We are very active in some high profile industries and hopeful that we will be able to announce many new contracts in the coming weeks,' says Ronen Luzon, CEO of Malers. ``We felt that the position of the stock in the market does not correctly reflect our positive business activity, and by executing the reverse split, this will raise our share price to a more attractive level for new investors. This is definitely good news for our current investor base.'
Upon completion of the reverse stock split, the trading symbol will automatically change. The Company will announce the new trading symbol later in the week.
``This is only one step in many that the Company will be taking in the months to come to improve the long-term value of Malers, both for our customers and our shareholders,' notes Luzon.
About Malers
Malers Automation and Control Ltd. is an Israeli systems company that develops, manufactures, sells and maintains automation and control systems for industrial applications. The Company produces turn-key systems that replace labor intensive, error prone and costly manual production and monitoring functions. Since the Company's inception in 1996, Malers' custom designed systems have been installed in major industrial applications worldwide. Their systems offer centralized and remote control of complex manufacturing processes, and data collection and analysis systems.
Forward-Looking Statements
Certain statements in this news release may contain 'forward-looking' information within the meaning of the Federal securities laws. All statements, other than statements of fact, included in this release may include forward-looking statements that may involve risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that such statements will be accurate and actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements. The Company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect subsequently occurring events or circumstances or to reflect unanticipated events or developments.
Contact:
Malers Automation and Control Ltd.
Joel Gering
011-972-52-398-3374
malers-a@malers-automation.com
www.malers-automation.com
FWIW, RS would be stated as 1:2000 as in "you get 1 share for every 2000" 2000:1 Means you GET 2000 shares for every 1.
And I thought 1000 to 1 was bad.
Does anyone have any idea when this company will update their corp information to Pink Sheets. Right now it still looks like the pos global explorations.
No, still on 3- lineup looking good.
Where are we now, i cant get a read on them right now for some reason.
Im blind right now, did we get 2 or so yet..TIA
Lost another MM on the ask. 3 left to go before we hit 0002.
Econ 301 and non-reporting penny stocks don't always go hand in hand.
Are we rich yet....
Seems to be a PR freeze on all penny stocks these days.
And what PR does come is picked to pieces.
Remember, there is more to running a business than PR for the stockholders. Dividends are the stockholders earnings.
Supply and demand dictate price of stock.
Use the KISS principle and be patient, when they want more capital they will PR and beg for more stockholders. When they have profit that does not need reinvested in the business they will pay a dividend.
I learned all that in Econ 301
: )) Let's hope for yahoo.
All we can do is pray and hope for the best. I wish I had invested the money I have in GXXL in HISC. I was thinking about investing in HISC a few weeks ago after it's initial run-up then I didn't follow-up. Oh well...another one missed. I hope GXXL works out as I'm holding 75million shares! If it works, yahoo! if not, oh shit! LOL
GLTA,
Dino
They were discussing the underground tunnels last night (or the night before) on CNN (I think it was Lou's show). Hopefully, we can see some benefits of that discussion, in addition to the tunnel activities problems in Israel.
You're probably right. It seems to me that this was an unecessary discussion about the RS. But, Dino just wanted to get some info, and I appreciate that. glta
Thanks Dino once again. Well, perhaps there'll be no RS afterall. The guy just had a conversation with you about RS in general. It doesn't seem to me that the Malers even plans to do one. Thanks though for keeping us updated.
Best regards.
Follow up:
Hi Dino,
As with all of my clients, I am an outside consultant, hired by the company to write their PR’s and respond to investor inquiries. In my ‘other life’, I am a marketing strategy consultant, primarily for IT, Telecom and Internet-related companies (mostly privately held).
I can’t prevent you from posting our correspondence, but if you are asked,… it wasn’t my idea or initiative. For sure, please be sure to remove my address.
Regards,
Joel
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From: Dino Sawyer
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Hello?
Joel,
That is good to hear. I appreciate the reply. Could you also please clarify your relationship to the company? Finally, do you have a problem with my posting our correspondence on a GXXL investment board? Of cours, I will make sure that your address does not show.
Thanks again,
Dino
Whats with all this R/S BS. Sounds to me as though the guy pushin this on contact is most likely not even in this.
R/S blows. Loose lips sink ship's...
OK. Dino, after reading your correspondence with Joel, I am almost 100% sure that they will RS. Joel's responses are waaaay too positively inclined toward RS that it is going to happen in my opinion any day now. F'k 'em! Problem is, I can't get out before that, as we sit on 0. f'k, f'k, f'k. Thanks Dino for this update. Very negative, but at least we assume where we stand. f'k 'em!
More from Joel...I get the feeling that a RS will happen...Here's a copy of my latest correspondence:
Joel,
Thanks for the reply. Just to reiterate, I am not advocating that the company focus on "short-term" results. That is why I have concerns regarding the effects of a poorly managed RS. I look forward to seeing my initial investment grow over time and hope that management doesn't do a RS just for "short-term" results that ultimately hurts the company and it's shareholders.
Regards,
Dino
----- Original Message -----
From: Joel Gering
To: 'Dino
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:33 AM
Subject: RE: Hello?
Hi Dino,
Thanks for the info. Not all companies are in a position to use their working capital to buy back shares or disclose their financial info. While it may have a positive short-run effect on the pps, and a quick push for investors, it certainly isn’t a good use of working capital for a company that is building up its value. As a marketing consultant (not just IR), we drive home to our clients the fact that having a technology is only 5% of the game. To be successful, marketing strategy (and the budget to implement) will be what makes or breaks a company in the long-run. I am a strong believer that working for ‘instant’ results is a great way to drive a company into the ground.
In the case of many penny stocks, they may issue a huge amount of shares to get the working capital needed. While it gets the company financed, the number of O/S’s can be problematic – positive business activity by the company may have very little upward effect on the pps. So, the logic and cost effectiveness behind an RS can be good in many cases. I agree that the investing public doesn’t always understand the process and they panic. I also agree that not all companies do a good job in preparing and follow up. It’s the board, not me, that makes the final decision, and they should act in a responsible manner.
In the case of Malers, I don’t recommend that the company disclose its financial info right now – there are too many eyeballs on the company from the direction of potential competitors. Plus, much of their R&D is still in development, so patents are not yet finalized. Moreover, the company has contracts with other public companies – if we were to wait for their legal department’s approval on the releases we publish using their names, the public would hear nothing about Malers’ activities. So, we often prefer to publish the releases without the client’s name rather than wait weeks or even months for legal approval. All this combined, that’s why we’re very careful in what we say and don’t say.
Regards,
Joel
Joel,
I understand how a RS is supposed to work (btw, a RS would be 1:10, not 10:1) and often times they do have the intended effect. But sometimes (espcially with penny stocks that don't release financial statements or have other "issues") the pps drops rapidly after a RS as investors fear the worse and sell off. There are stock forums dedicated solely to habitual RS offenders. There are better ways to attract investors and increase pps. For example: audited financial statements that show investors the company is legitimate; revenue and revenue growth; patents; share buy-backs. HISC (another penny stock involved in homeland defense) had it's pps double today as a result of announcements regarding share buy-back. In fact, GXXL should look at what the managment of HISC has done in such a short period of time.
As always, thanks for the reply,
Dino
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/050426/76945.html
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/050427/77067.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Joel Gering
To: 'Dino
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:34 PM
Subject: RE: Hello?
Hi Dino,
Not sure this makes sense. The pps is adjusted according to the R/S ratio, e.g., 10:1 increases price by x10 – less shares but same value for stockholders. At the new price, investors that don’t invest under, say 0.05, would then be inclined to invest with the adjusted price above 0.05. If done properly, this can help put upward pressure on the stock price, along with positive info on the company.
That’s the theory and it works in practice with the proper effort.
Regards,
Joel
LOL...I've only started recently, so I didn't get in at the bottom...and I didn't buy enough either. But stocks like NEOM and MOBL publish financials and have been "vetted" so to speak by independent advisors (e.g., Tobin Smith) and numerous knowledgeable people on these boards. That isn't the case w/ GXXL. So it is much more of a gamble. Heck, GXXL won't even tell you AS, OS and Float!
Sawdin. Like onthe verge says all these penny stocks are a gamble. Look how GREAT you made out with your favorite stocks shown in your profile---NEOM--MOBL--GTEL. You must be laughing all the way to the bank. Congrats.
Chucker
I hope you're wrong too. From these levels this will either be a big thing, or a total disaster. Freakin' gamble...and that's what I don't like.
If they get Capital, and turn it into a big profit.
Then
A reverse Split would not do the Funky Pinky
I have been thru 3 revers splits , 2 where VERY PROFITABLE
3rd is still on wait and see, it's a tad below where it should.
I'm still a bit worried that Mahlers just took over the shell of GXXL to put out some pr's and dump a ton of stock (making themselves a ton of money) and then do a RS and make themselves even more money. I hope I am wrong.
GLTA,
Dino
Great messages and replies from Joel. I am a bit amazed that he is "surprised" or that he "doesn't understand" why a reverse split builds value on the back of initial investors. I hope that he doesn't think that we don't know what's going on in the penny and RS market. Other than that funny/weird statement, I liked his replies and upbeat business outlook. Let's wait and see. Thanks Dino.
Example of RS:
ITWJ.PK - was 6500000 shares at 0.0001 - RS of 1000 to 1 - Value now - 6500 shares at 0.0049 - value now 33.08 loss of 685.92 with included fees. Note: good pr today but still had a loss of 0.0011 (18.97 percent) in share price.
Follow-up to Joel: I'm sure many of you have seen RS disasters before.
Joel,
Thanks for the reply. My concern is that oftentimes w/ a RS on a penny stock, the pps doesn't really move enough. Thus, after the split the pre-existing shareholders have less value.
Regards,
Dino
----- Original Message -----
From: Joel Gering
To: 'Dino
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: RE: Hello?
Hi Dino,
We disclose as much information as we can. In many instances, we are limited by our clients. Plus, we don’t need to tip off our competition with critical information as we build up real value for the company.
Not sure I understand why you think a reverse split builds value on the back of initial investors.
Regards,
Joel
Reply from Joel:
Hi Dino,
We disclose as much information as we can. In many instances, we are limited by our clients. Plus, we don’t need to tip off our competition with critical information as we build up real value for the company.
Not sure I understand why you think a reverse split builds value on the back of initial investors.
Regards,
Joel
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From: Dino
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 11:16 PM
To: malers-a@malers-automation.com
Subject: Re: Hello?
Joel,
I appreciate the reply. FYI, I did not advocate the use of endless pr's that might momentarily increase pps, rather that when the company puts out some pr that it actually be meaningful. Also, as you well know, one way for the company to build up value/assets (and impact pricing and volume) is to do so on the backs of the initial investors via a reverse split. I hope the company has different plans to achieve their goals.
Regards,
Dino
I hope they advertise their under fence sensors....
Article on the tunnel threat facing Israel and Israel's desperate need to find a solution to the problem.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/568178.html
The responce seems like a good one. Maybe we can win with this one.
I want to buy more in this case,
Anyone loan me some money ?? (APril 15 was a killer)
Recent emails w/ Joel:
Joel,
I appreciate the reply. FYI, I did not advocate the use of endless pr's that might momentarily increase pps, rather that when the company puts out some pr that it actually be meaningful. Also, as you well know, one way for the company to build up value/assets (and impact pricing and volume) is to do so on the backs of the intial investors via a reverse split. I hope the company has different plans to achieve their goals.
Regards,
Dino
----- Original Message -----
From: Joel Gering
To: xxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:17 PM
Subject: RE: Hello?
Hi Dino,
While Malers is doing well and making outstanding progress, the Company is not in a position to put out press releases every day. Investors may be looking for that, and if so, they should look at some of the blue chip companies. We expect to have good announcements in the coming days, but our efforts are not geared towards improving volume or share price in the short run. We are working on building up true value to the company, and believe that this will eventually positively impact on pricing and volume.
Regards,
Joel
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From: Dino
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 4:37 PM
To: malers-a@malers-automation.com
Subject: Hello?
Joel,
What is happening? Trading volume is non-existent. The few pr's that have been put are not very useful as they just contain unverifiable fluff. Rumour has it that you are experienced in reverse splits. That may move the volume and pps, but it definitely harms those shareholders who are already invested. I'd love to hear your comments.
Thanks again,
Dino Sawyer
Well, let's hope not. I read somewhere that Joel specifically stated that there will be no R/S. So, let's hope that they will not do that. Otherwise, someone might get sued. Have a good weekend.
If it does a reverse split then it can go down. Too many here lately have done that to me already.
You're right, it's not. It can't go down. So, it's safe there, but can it go up? My hopes are high. glty, and keep us posted with fresh info from Israel.
Who cares about the MM's
If YOU buy the price goes up....
If You Sell the price goes down..
It's cheep right now.. I would say it's NOT time to sell...
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