ENGY - Enviro-Energy Corporation (ENGY)

[growacet]

Nice Post Enviro....

Back through the summer and into October there were likely numerous reasons why shareholders were fearful. Bowers' resignattion back in June and the 8K filing of same in July. The attainment of a new low in October below .005 cents. Novemeber 14th filing that earnings would be late and overall zero effort at attracting investors to the stock. With all that I'm sure many probably decided to sell...but someone (or someones) had to be buying or the PPS would have dropped below .005 and kept on going. If you want to buy low you need others willing to sell low.

Then on Oct. 20th, just after reacing a new low volume shot up to over 19,000,000 more than 10x the preceding 20 day average...and the PPS more than double off its low. That attracted some attention as ENGY was included in a couple CRG emails after that date. Things were quiet until Nov. 14th when they filed that their 10QSB would be late. Some probably decided to bail on that news...but more than enough buyers jumped in to send the PPS higher as over 8 million traded and the PPS closed up.

We have pulled back of late...but volumes have also been very light.

I don't think we're anywhere near what your post describes as stage 5. The activity we've seen, buying on bad news and larger than average volume on balance being +...these imo are indicative of accumulation. The name of the game is to accumulate low.

[Enviro14]

I hope we will be in stage 5 in ENGY at this time,

Stage 1 - Accumulation. Stock is quiet, trading sideways and without a lot of volatility. Most everyone ignores the stock because it has no sizzle. Insiders hold large blocks of stock and quietly gear up for the distribution.

Stage 2 - Breakout. Volume jumps up, psychological barriers are broken. Insiders begin to tell their friends of upcoming significant fundamental change. Pros take notice and buy the stock on the coat tails of the well informed. The public ignores it because they have not read about the company in the paper yet. It must be a scam.

Stage 3 - Uptrend. As a larger audience learns of the company and its promise, more buying comes in to the stock and it begins to climb. Pros begin to sell, but slowly. Average investor begins to buy.

Stage 4 - Pullback. The stock has gone up too fast, and some profit taking arrives. The jumpy investor who got the entry timing right but lacks confidence in his or her decision sells the stock with a small profit, and smiles in the mirror. The Pro holds on, Average Investor looks through the newspaper to find justification for ownership of the shares.

Stage 5 - Resumption of the Uptrend. The pull back is short lived, and the stock bounces and continues higher. The wannabe regrets the sell, but provides self counsel on the merit of making a profit, albeit a small one. The Pro might sell a little bit more, but still holds the majority of the original position. The Average Investor is getting excited now, and thinks about what could have been if only he had bought when he first noticed the stock.

[growacet]

Only 66,000 traded so far. Supply Shortage?

IMHO, a distinct possibility.

[growacet]

jmhollen Off Topic...(and some on topic)

Here is probably my best post to IDNW's RB board:

http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=IDNW&read=26346

This was at a time when IDNW's RB board had attracted alot of posters bent it seemed on convincing shareholders to sell...and prospective investors to stay away.

You'll have to pardon my overly suspicious nature with respect to your bearish sentiment here, but I've seen tons of it on other stocks aside from IDNW...DTMG and NT as well as others that have gone on to significant gains.

I have only been investing since 2000 (not the best time to start) and the market handed me my tuchus on a platter. Rather than whine and moan I learned as much as I could as to the manner in which the market functions.

My largest influence so far has been the books of Joseph Granville, particularily 'New Strategies of Stock Market Timing for Maximum Profit'....(written in the 70's so not so 'new' anymore). I've done well picking close to the botttom on IDNW DTMG and NT....but not well at picking the top...I sold too soon. As I said before though, you don't get hurt taking profits

ENGY is trading around .0060 cents, that is the current reality. There are shares being sold, and shares being bought at around this price point. Why anyone would be buying in quantities like back in Oct (almost 20 million one day) and November 14th (7 or 8 million)....I don't know. But I do consider it a possible harbinger of good things to come.

No hype, no pumping...just a risk taker who likes to try and guess the bottom. I've been wrong as well with Viasystems (VSGI.OB if memory serves...now private).

[jmhollen]

Interesting..............

OBTW: You forgot to O/T your post, ...but we'll let it slide this time.

Have a fun week.

John

[growacet]

jmhollen...

I wasn't aware of I-Hub when I was investing in IDNW...if you're interested in viewing my thoughts I had plenty when I was loading up on IDNW around .006 cents...I post to RB as ledrog and will post a hello if you wish.

There was plenty of bearish commentary on IDNW back then, but I did very well I'm used to the type of discussion we've been having, I had it at RB on IDNW and on DTMG. Both times I sold too soon...but you don't get hurt making profits.

[jmhollen]

You know, Gord.........

If you swapped your repetitive insertions of 'mature' for the term 'intelligent' you would be a dead ringer for one of iHub's more infamous toe-tagged former denizens.

Let's see how much lower that share price goes over the next several weeks, and I may snag a few shares for my collection just for the sake of gambling on this potential shell play with you. In the interim, you really ought to scooter out to Spokane and see what's up - it's a premiere form of DD.

John

O/T: You should keep an eye on QBID tomorrow, if the long rumored NTI News comes out it could be a real hottie.

ps: IDNW would be a better bet however: http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/analysis.pl?symb=IDNW&num1=39&cobrand=&mode=stock

[growacet]

Again, john...

Point out where I have distorted something you or anyone else has said. I will most often cut and paste so as to avoid that impression...as I did with your remark about hiding revenue.

I have no agenda outside of a mature discussion of ENGY...I'm sorry if that does not fit with your desire to cast ENGY in as negative a light as possible.

[jmhollen]

TOS away, Gord.

When you take what someone says and subsequently present it in a distorted context looking to generate a response that supports your personal ENGY agenda, you are probably going to get called on it. If you don't like having that happen, don't do it.

When are you going to quit shuffling warmed over SEC filings on a corporation that is doing no more than keeping the OTCBB doors open, and go out to Spokane and investigate what's really going on...?!?

You're not going to continue telling everybody what you deduce from rather old public data, when currently available T/A doesn't support your position, ...are you...???

John

[growacet]

Again jmhollen...

I'm not one to resort to TOS reporting as a rule, but I feel compelled.

I am not attempting to 'twist' or confuse anything. I would like to discuss the facts. If you're posting fact I merely ask that you substantiate it with a link or a reference.

If the actions you describe as being advisable by a director of a publiclly traded entity...well I'm surprised you ever were bullish after ENGY's acquisistion of Colvico.

It is my expectation that directors within publicly traded corporations and their subsiduaries strive to deliver $$$$ to the bottom line and value to shareholders.

Personally, as I have said on numerous occassions....I prefer to rely on the price volume movement in a stock when formulating an 'opinion'. I do not like to see alot of redundant promotion geared toward enticing investors because it is futher my opinion that promotion can make TA look falsely bullish.

[jmhollen]

You can be as suspicious as you wish. Just don't presume that anyone on iHub has to dance to your discordant tunes, presumptions, obfuscations, or twisted constructs intended to promote innuendo - veiled or otherwise. If you are interested in word games, I'd suggest RB as a much better locale for that kind of stuff. The ture "..Masters.." of that bogus art have long since been sent back to other quarters of the WWW to practice their prevarications.

An electrical contracting firm run by an experienced individual can apply as much of the revenue as that person feels appropriate to improving tool inventory and mateial stocks, upgrading office furnishings and equipment, updating vehicles, adding depth to the company motor pool, providing bonuses to deserving project managers, foremen or journeymen, providing social gatherings for the employees to celebrate ongoing successes, etc.

If I were in Cory Colvin's position, considering how has and is being treated by others, I would purchase gold-plated pencil sharpeners formerly used in Saddam's palaces for the tool crib before I would permit skimmable profit to rise above a minimally acceptable trickle. Now that's just me, but with the previously indicated exposure I've had to the electrical industry it probably wouldn't be a good idea to bet against that possibility.

You can shuffle your after-the-fact SEC filings until you can qualify as an official "..rustler.." for Rush, that data is only what someone's account wants you to see. Or, you can go to Washington state, get to know the territory, visit with all the parties past and present, and find out what's really going on. Life is all about choices.

John

[growacet]

With Respect to the Chart:

ENGY most certainly was going down, and was trading below 1/2 a penny in October. However with no news or promotion (please point out any company attempts at IR if I missed them), ENGY bounced back up over 1 cent on volume well above the average.

While some may have been sufficiently worried by their Nov. 14/03 filing that earnings would be late....the market certainly didn't respond in a bearish manner.

Since then it has been trading flat and down, on volume nowhere approaching the 19+ million it rebounded on or the 7 or so million that traded when they filed that earnings would be late.

It is my opinion, based on the price volume movement of ENGY and on fundamental considerations that ENGY represents a speculative buy.

That is hardly an iron clad endorsement. ENGY comports significant risks in my opinion and I consider it a very real possibility that I may lose some or all of my investment. Please do you own DD and reach your own conclusions.

If you chose to share your opinions please be respectful of other posters. If you have fundamental data please substantiate it with a link.

Regards
ledrog

[growacet]

jmhollen...

Please point out any posts of mine where I was 'intentionally insulting'??? I don't believe you'll find any, but if you do I would appreciate you pointing them out to me...and you are certainly justified in having them deleted.

You did post that you believed Colvico was 'hiding' revenue. Given that Colvico is a wholly owned subsiduary company I'd be interested in your opinion as to the legality.

You made some very alarming charges in the post to which I'm responding. Specifically you said they'd have to apply any monies raised to:

"past due accounts, consultant fees in arrears, past due executive salaries, employee salaries that were undelivered, the cost to complete the purchase of and overhaul the engine-generator at Tillamook that Mike Funk ran out of warranty, etc."

Respectfully...Is there anything you can link to substantiate those assertations? If you are unable to substantiate those claims via an SEC filing or some other source...Well you'll have to excuse my suspicious nature but I'm not one to take the word of any poster to what is an anonomys forum.

I have been extremely respectful of you jmhollen in spite several acerbic replies. I merely ask that you extend to me the same courtesy.

ENGY is a publicly traded company. As such one is free to buy/sell/hold at their discretion. Just because you do not believe that it is a good buy right now does not neccessarily mean you're correct...after all you're merely expressing yho, (your humble opinion)....

As to your post of a TA link...(I didn't know you were a devotee of technical analysis as most of your comments seem fundamentally based)...there are numerous sites for TA research.

American Bulls list ENGY as wait:
http://www.americanbulls.com/StockPage.asp?CompanyTicker=ENGY%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&MarketTicker=...

FWIW my own view, technically speaking, is that volume has been too low of late to rely too heavily on any indications, either bullish or bearish. If you're interested here's another TA link:

http://www.smallcapcentre.com/snapshot_techanalysis.asp?component=compinfo.asp&row=2&page=sn...

[jmhollen]

General Information:

When this board was created back on 03/04/02, ENGY was actively engaged in building, testing, and improving an SBR anaerobic digester system in Tillamook, WA. Additionally, Mike Funk was a principle of the company and actively traveling to build synergies that would hopefully lead to expansion. Mr. Funk was also personally providing development funding that he shut off at the worse possible time, just as the latest improvement modifications to the SBR digesters at Tillamook were in the "..start-up.." phase.

Unfortunately, the USDA/NRCS support funding to help dairy and CAFO farmers purchase AD's for their manure management needs has never materialized. Subsequently, many state DNR or environmental protection agencies (..by any other names..) have not enforced some existing regulations - unless a situation was absolutely critical. This is primarily due to the financial burdens already imposed on cash-strapped farmers.

It is my understanding and judgment that little progress will be made in farm-based AD's until the USDA/NRCS EQIP portion of the current farm bill is finally funded. And then, there is still a problems with local politics. EQIP funding of manure management systems for CAFO's will have to compete with other "..bike path.." and "..babbling brook.." improvement issues deemed more important by local non-technical residents on the committees. If the CAFO farmer involved is not in the "..in crowd.." in his baileywick, receiving the EQIP funding may be highly unlikely - hence marketing AD's to those potential clients becomes very unattractive. Ergo: the small to moderately large CAFO famer market for SBR-type digesters is currently dead.

Apparently due to questionable stock distributions prior to the involvement of Tom Bowers, and the subsequent leaving or dismissal of previous principles, other major investors and/or investment bankers appear to be unwilling to fund completion of the Tillamook SBR AD, or to fund the repair of the company.

This situation has resulted, to the best of my understanding, in the non-payment of various equipment suppliers, consultants, officers, and employees - resulting in pending lawsuits or wage-hour claims currently filed or to-be-filed; published or not.

As one of these consultants appears to be the patent holder of the AADS process, retention of ENGY's license to construct AADS digesters may be a real problem. Without that license, ENGY is now dead in the water. IMHO. The only market for these high-perfomance and high first-cost digesters is with large meat packing and other major industrial process customers having digestable waste streams.

Colvico, an independent and successful arm of ENGY, is the only functioning entity involved. Cory Colvin seems very unlikely to allow any but the most meager of funds to move from Colvico to ENGY, just to keep ENGY alive as an entity.

An issue has been raised that my perspective on this company has changed from a possible BUY when they were making progress, to a HOLD at best if investors are still in. "...No kidding..."!!! "..WAIT AND SEE.." would be a good plan for the uninvolved at this juncture, IMHO.

If I were going to buy a Ferrari that was in good condition, it could be considered a good plan and/or investment today. If the dealer's kid subsequently took the car out on a date and "..wrecked it..", it's unlikely that my interest in buying that car would continue. Things change and 'stuff' happens; which is why one should never become emotionally involved in - or irratioanally attached to - mini-Microcap stocks.

Please DYODD x2 with ENGY. The original technology package was great, but the execution of it is now unlikley.

**************************

Recent Poster Update:

As per ENGY's most recent 10QSB for the 1/4 ending September 30, 2003: "Due to a lack of funds available from continuing operations in ENGY, the development of the bio-waste business has been suspended, until the cash required to operate this segment of the Company is available."
AND
"If the Company does not obtain additional financing, it would be unable to continue its development and marketing of the bio-waste sector."
The revenues for the company are primarily from Colvico Inc, a wholly owned subsiduary.

The most recent 10QSB for the quarter ending Sept. 30, 2003 can be viewed here: http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0001052918%2D03%2D000295%2Etxt&FilePath....

Or for a snapshot of the financials one can look here: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=engy.ob

[jmhollen]

If you want your posts to remain don't be using intentionally insulting terms that you can't substantiate.

When ENGY started out they had good technology package and a good idea in hand. This discussion board was started when the price was around $0.02 and it rose as high as $0.06 while they were ligitimately pursuing their published business plan.

When the US Government failed to fund the 2003 Farm Bill, the company (..Funk & Loven..) went nuts with stock jiggling and failed to add needed capital instead of adjusting to new circumstances and approaching large agribusiness and industrial customers who could afford their systems without government grants. Tom Bowers attempted to turn this company around in that manner, but all the former get-rich-quick's hid their money and let the company founder.

Apparently the plan was to buy back the leftovers for pennies on the dollar, assuming that Colvin let it go bankrupt. Where they really screwed up was assuming that the license to use the AADS technology would still be available after they failed to perform on advancing the cause or generating/paying the royalties.

Now ENGY has nothing other than through its electrical contracting subdivision, and that subdivision doesn't want to be part of the previous whole.

Here's the current T/A...:
Overall - Short - Intermediate - Long
Neutral - Bearish - Neutral - Neutral
http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/analysis.pl?symb=ENGY&num1=39&cobrand=&mode=stock

IMHO absolutely nothing of practical value is going to happen with ENGY unless the silent partners/major investors shuffling around in the background ante up in excess of One Million dollars to put the show back on the road. Likelihood: nil to none. Immediately upon adding that capital, 1/2 of it will immediately need to be applied to past due materials accounts, consultant fees in arrears, past due executive salaries, employee salaries that were undelivered, the cost to complete the purchase of and overhaul the engine-generator at Tillamook that Mike Funk ran out of warranty, the cost to complete and start-up the Tillamook unit, etc. Either all that is done, or law suits and mechanic's liens will shut them down they day they take a step forward.

Unlike yourself, or the nattering nerf-weebles on RaginBull, the "..Powers-At-Be.." at ENGY know this, which is why they are sitting on their hands - and Cory Colvin is operating as if they don't exists ince they don't know a kilowatt from a cow's arse.

ENGY is basically dead in the water (..as other than an electrical contractor..), and any changes in the price are the direct result of stockholder share shuffling or MFMMM fidding, IMHO.

<bFor anyone wanting a reliable alternative source for T/A analysis on this stock, please seek out 'omnitrader' or some of the other guru's on iHub and them nicely to run the number for you.

John

[growacet]

Request to Update ENGY information box:

This forum is dedicated to a mature an open discussion of Enviro-Energy Corporation, publicly traded on the OTCBB, symbol ENGY.

As per ENGY's most recent 10QSB for the 1/4 ending September 30, 2003:

"Due to a lack of funds available from continuing operations in ENGY, the development of the bio-waste business has been suspended, until the cash required to operate this segment of the Company is available."

AND

"If the Company does not obtain additional financing, it would be unable to continue its development and marketing of the bio-waste sector."

The revenues for the company are primarily from Colvico Inc, a wholly owned subsiduary.

The most recent 10QSB for the quarter ending Sept. 30, 2003 can be viewed here:

http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0001052918%2D03%2D000295%2Etxt&FilePath....

Or for a snapshot of the financials one can look here:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=engy.ob

[growacet]

jmhollen re-read your post...

In part it read:

"hide revenue in more pockets than Dan Rather has in his Abercronie-&-Fitch embedded-reporter psuedoMilitary costume - so that it won't get siphoned off into ENGY's general coffers"

Are you suggesting that a director of Enviro-Energy is taking money from Colvico, (a wholly owned subsiduary of ENGY) and is hiding it?

I'm not an expert on Sab/Ox but I don't think this type of activity is legal. Why were you so bullish on ENGY if this is the opinion you hold of one of its directors?

[growacet]

jmhollen you mentioned 'hiding' revenue...

How did you expect me to interpert 'hiding'???

[jmhollen]

Rhetorical questions, obtuse thoughts, and more of those baseless opinions, aye. Oh me..........!!!

I both like and respect Cory, and I also have 35 years in the electrical engineering/construction game. You don't become as successful as Colvico unless you know how to handle your money.

There are many ways to utilize revenue in the electrical contracting business that prevent it from falling into the hands of a parent company, or the Tax Man.

Well enough of this banter for today. Post a picture of yourself wearing your ENGY-man SuperHero costume sometime. I'll see if I can get you coop Ad spot with Reddy Kilowatt sometime.

John

[growacet]

Just curious...

Given jmhollens view on Colvico and that their results may have been even better than reported...

Anyone think that maybe that's why big jumps in volume invariably push the PPS up? I'm sure it would be nice to own alot of shares if the results coming out in the future are even better than the MRQ.

Of course if you want to buy shares when they're low you need others willing to sell them low. Maybe that's why we're not seeing any effort at promoting ENGY?

[growacet]

WoW...jmhollen...

So do you think their results may have been even better than reported? I thought you'd met this guy Colvin. It doesn't sound like you trust him???? Why were you so bullish on this stock if you didn't trust one of the principals???

[jmhollen]

Well..................

"........Happy trails to you, ...until we MO again......

Gee, that sounds like a great commercial for TLWN.

John

[jmhollen]

The most interesting consideration therein, is that any electrical contractor worth his salt can hide revenue in more pockets than Dan Rather has in his Abercronie-&-Fitch embedded-reporter psuedoMilitary costume - so that it won't get siphoned off into ENGY's general coffers.........

Electricity can be fun.

John

[growacet]

jmhollen, there's no "momo" here...

At least not right now. I assume that for some momentum to build up we'll need to see a Press Release or some attempt at promotion. To be perfectly frank, with volumes being as low as they currently are I'd be very hesitant about investing in ENGY right now.

You should know that my MO is primarily technical with a contrarian view towards news and promotion. Hard to be contrarian about ENGY's performance in the MRQ though...if they got some IR going they really could have driven interest to this stock in my opinion.

FWIW, I think that could easily happen still.

[jmhollen]

Guesses, presumptions, and strange choices seem to be a forte' of yours, Gord.

Currently, investing in ENGY is kind of like buying a classic or muscle car out of Hemmings. If you don't want to cough up the Greyhound fare, you better find someone in the neighborhood who knows the territory and will go kick the tires for you.

Best of luck, I hope you make a ton...!! MOMO's can be fun.

John

[growacet]

You're not alone jmhollen...

I assume there are others put off by the fact that ENGY is no longer doing what they were doing when you 1st invested here. Personally imo the purpose behind ANY investment is to deliver $$$$ results. Whether that's in the bio waste sector or contracting....I don't care.

If Colvico is able to deliver shareholder value where other endeavors failed...well bravo is my sentiment.

[jmhollen]

Gord,

Whatever works for you. It was just a suggestion.

John

[growacet]

jmhollen...

I guess I'll take that as a no then, you have nothing to substantiate your assertation with.

You're not Ripleys, so in your case I'll choose not.

[growacet]

jmhollen

"Perhaps you should go start a Colvico discussion board, since that is basically what you are investing in."

As Colvico is provding pretty much all of ENGY's revenue, a board about Colvico would be redundant. Colvico is a wholly owned subsiduary of ENGY...read the most recent filings, hence this is the perfect place to discuss the only end of the business that is driving results.

Not too bad in the MRQ, wouldn't you say? $155,000 to the plus side...I know of tons of OTC stocks with nothing but negative numbers trading at 4x and more what ENGY is currently at.

[jmhollen]

Again, I would refer you to Ripley's.

DYODD

John

[jmhollen]

The basic problem seems to be the repetitive errors present in so many of your presumptions. Your efforts to translate that into some lame form of innuendo really won't get you very much mileage here on iHub; too "RB-ish" for most members.

The AADS and SBR technology that ENGY had to offer was superior to performance-wise, easier to operate, and less costly to maintain that other forms of AD currently available. It is most likely that the technology will appear elsewhere, as it is to valuable to leave dormant.

When the US Government failed to fully fund the 2003 Farm Bill, Loven and Funk's grandiose schemes to sell ENGY digesters to every small EQIP-qualified/deserving dairyman and CAFO operation in the USA evaporated into a stock shuffling scheme. Having been promised the EQIP money, the farmers are not going to buy squat without it - unless their local DNR is about to shut them down for environmental violations.

Colvico has been left holding the bag. It would take more than 1/2-Million dollars just to settle the past due issues at ENGY, before they spend one dime on rebuilding the organization or doing any marketing of other than the electrical contracting business that is particular to and the purview of Colvico anyway.

I'm a technology follower/investor. As the technology supposedly offered by ENGY is no longer viably availble through them - and nobody seems to mention that fact in their loquacious soliloquies - I may choose to point it out from time to time.

Perhaps you should consider starting a "..Colvico.." discussion board, since that is basically what you are investing in.

If you can make a few bucks trading on the ebb and flow of the ongoing "...irrationally exhuberant..." MOMO, more power to you. Just call it what it is for change.

John

[growacet]

jmhollen another question:

You said:

"There is a long line of suppliers and consultants to and former employees of ENGY that would lien, sue or file/have filed financial complaints with the state/county/courts."

Do you have anything at all to substantiate that statement?

[growacet]

jmhollen...just curious

Why do you care so much about ENGY? There are a myriad of companies out there that I feel are poor investments, and while I might offer up a thought or two...well what's to concern me if I have nothing at stake?

It would seem you were bullish on ENGY when it was at a much higher PPS and are bearish now. Assuming you bought and sold in line with your sentiment, well its probable that you lost some $$$$.

Does it bother you that those buying in the last little while might possibly make some $$$$ here?

[jmhollen]

Having met Cory Colvin a year or so ago, and having a professional engineering acquaintance who speaks with him on occasion, I can safely say that the information I provided regarding Colvico is at least as accurate as anything you can come up with on the subject.

Per Ripley's, "....Believe it, or not..."; makes no difference to me.

John

[growacet]

I'll do it this weekend hollen...

It will be far less 'spammy' than it was when you were touting ENGY...rest assured.

[growacet]

hollen....

Given that it is now Colvin's signature at the bottom of ENGY's filings I highly doubt we'll see Colvico 'extracted' from ENGY. I think you put it correctly when you said:

"if there was a practical means of doing so"

As per the 8K filing of July 18th it seems there was a proposal put forth to rescind the sale agreement of Colvico to ENGY. That was from Bowers' letter of resignation dated early June. In other words over 6 months ago. Frankly as far as I'm concerned its a dead issue. If you know of a proposal to extract Colvico please share it. If you have nothing to share beyond idle speculation with nothing to substantiate your opinions I'd ask that you leave it aside.

I don't appreciate fuzzy speculation saying a stock is going to the moon, and that big news is on the way unless there's something concrete to back it up...the same applies when posters are bearish. That is the heart of pumping and bashing imo.

Look at the most recent results...for the MRQ ended September 30th 2003, ENGY is delivering + income with its wholly owned subsiduary Colvico driving most of the revenue. That isn't speculation...that is fact verifiable from the MRQ's filing.

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[jmhollen]

FYI:

If anyone wishes to construct a new ENGY DD Post (..in a non-spammy manner..) incorporating the old "..General Information.." and any new data you have collected, I will be pleased to link it into the iBox upon request.

Regards,

John

[jmhollen]

ThermaFreeze preceded ENGY as one of Galen Loven's operations. It was eventually spun off, and is now a private company in GA I believe. They have a specialized packaging material that can keep food and drugs cold during long shipments.

Loven and Funk most likely created and controlled the first ENGY website domain. Hence, when Tom Bowers came on board (..and Loven and Funk were on their way out..) a new ENGY domain was obtained that Loven and Funk had no involvement with or control over.

With regard to updating the ENGY website, there does not seem to be any practicality to doing that. It is highly unlikely that ENGY will ever proceed with efforts that involve renewable energy or bio-recycling per the previous business plan.

Additionally, Colvico would extract itself from ENGY in a NY Minute if there was a practical means of doing so; IMHO. It is most likely that Cory Colvin personally owns any web domain associated with Colvico, and it is highly unlikely IMHO that he would share it with ENGY.

There is a long line of suppliers and consultants to and former employees of ENGY that would lien, sue or file/have filed financial complaints with the state/county/courts. Reenergizing ENGY would result in an immediate disbursement of any new capital applied to the effort; hence it's probably toast.

DYODD

John

[jmhollen]

Tsunami Communications was owned by Mike Funk.

He sold it, and would not apply any of the proceeds to advancing the efforts or needs of ENGY.

John

[growacet]

Many thanks enviro14

Maybe its much ado about nothing...but given Colvico's recent performance I'm very encouraged. They'll have to do something to attract broad based investor interest imo if ENGY is to trade significantly higher...but I like our chances.

[Enviro14]

http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/index.jhtml
when you find the side type in the domain name for example colvico .com or enviro-energycorp.com

[growacet]

what is a 'whois' search....

And how can I do it?

[Enviro14]

i found it on a whois search

[growacet]

enviro...

Where did you get the web site info? Particularily interested in colvico.com as colvico is the subsid driving all the revenue.

[Enviro14]

Not sure if a posted this one before
SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS
Change Order No. 3 to Contract with Colvico Construction, Inc.
Motion by Council Member Greene, seconded by Council Member Corker, to approve
Change Order No. 3 to contract with Colvico Construction, Inc. (Spokane) for Post
Street Enhancement and Two-way Conversion, with an increase of $47,860 and no
working days. Total cost-to-date—$1,168,077.60 (Riverside Neighborhood Council).
Motion carried 6-1 (Council Member Rodgers voting “no”).

[Enviro14]

I wonder why there was two webside call enviro-energycorp.com and enviro-energy.net.
The one with .net was registered to ThermaFrezze Inc Galen Loven and was created on Jun 28 2001 last uppdated on Jul 05 2003 and shut done for now.
.com side registered to Enviro.Energy Corp Thomas Bowers
created on Jun 28 2001
last uppdated: Jun 18 2003 and shut done.
Then we got Colvico.com
Registrant: Colvico Inc (Colvico-DOM) in Spokane
Database last uppdated 15-DEC-2003

[growacet]

Why Not Be Proud?

After the results from the MRQ...frankly I'm very happy!

[Hamasien]

Has anyone an idea when ENGY's website will be activated? I have only 1,000,000 shares of ENGY. I am not exactly proud! But worse things have happened!
Thanks,
Hamasien

[Enviro14]

The chinese seems to spend money on "green products" even if its more expensive and they spend a lot of time for environmental products.

What items are encouraged for foreign investment by China, and what are prohibited?

The items in the catalogue encouraged for foreign investment mainly include: new agriculture technologies, comprehensive development of agriculture, energy resources, communications, important raw materials, new and high technologies, export-oriented and foreign-currency-earning projects, comprehensive utilization and regeneration of resources, prevention of environmental pollution, and those that give play to the advantages of China's mid-west areas. Meanwhile, foreign investment is directed to the technological upgrading of traditional industries and old industrial bases and to the continued development of labor-intensive projects that comply with the state's industrial policies.