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well..just clarifying..far be it from me to try to obfuscate your a$$
I know he was. And we do have that in common. Mine came through PM and then e-mail telling me I was suspended.
thanks for link to your profile.
It does not bring back nice memories for me at all.
hahahahah
Well I think he was talking about IHUB bob but there are a few people that have been gagged ...I see we have something in common...
>>Are you implying that you have a special relationship with Bob? and that he
controls what you can or cannot post?<<
Yep. Same gag order here.
ask Bob
and nope..never been suspended or terminated on this site
Luke bit the dust before me....
a special relatiosnhip with BOB..ROFLMAOSHIH
Oh you really don't know the history
If Bob feels I am not doing as he wishes on this board he may remove me at any time.
I will agree that Bob's posts are revealing, as are yours.
How can Bob place a gag order on you? Unless you are suspended or terminated for violating ToU there is no provision for an administrative gag order in the IHUB charter. Are you implying that you have a special relationship with Bob? and that he controls what you can or cannot post?
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Glad to see some people got it and you dont even claim to be a mensa
There is one Viperchick alias and this is it...show me another ..THERE ARENT ANY ...except if someone goes to make one up now...
i gotta run now..I have to go play
Yours truly,
Lisa Luke Sam Lola Patrica Wannabe Parker Meridian Joe Bob Viperchick
OK tell me who is Viperchick?
:=) Gary Swancey
Your mensa obfuscation doesnt fool me..it might fool the rest but not me..dont bull&&&& a bull&&&&&er
There are not two aliases with the name VIPERCHICK.
You were stating as fact that Viperchick was posting under two aliases and you got shown up that you were wrong.
now go back to playing words games with Bob
I am too busy to deal with mensa obfuscation...
You do it ...
:=) Gary Swancey
Please post the profiles of two VIPERCHICKs posting on this board.
Yes that is what I posted and it is not a fact in your interpretation. There were and are two aliases here under Viperchick that's a fact and further since they had similair styles and complaints it could be just another ploy as with all the ploys that are testing IHUB. Now you can say whatever you want in your interpretation and you know I really could careless about your so called fact.
I reported what I felt was violation, which Bob has ruled on. Is it or isn't it is up to Bob to prove if it was or is or will be. Now for fairness I apologize for whatever you felt is an injustice but I will do it again as I would and will the SEC or anywhere I see a possible violation. I have that right to make a complaint.
:=) Gary Swancey
bahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
You just keep getting it wrong.....
Let me give you an example
In another post you make a statement concerning that you are under a gag order concerning this legal
action. If so your actions here may have actually weakened whatever presentation the case may have. It
may even subject you to a contempt of court violation regarding the gag order.
I didn't say who placed the gag order on me.
Just like gary has an opinion of bob..YOU MAKE A LOUSY DIRECTOR BECAUSE YOU KEEP ASSUMING AND KEEP GETTING IT WRONG.
BOB PLACED A GAG ORDER ON ME
Before you come to your conclusions perhaps you should make more of an effort to find out the facts
Also, read between the lines of Bob's posts...you might learn something
his posts were VERY illuminating
Game, set, and match.
And a compelling reason that only an iHub admin be allowed to delete posts. To do otherwise allows the record to be blurred.
I know exactly what you are talking about and agree with your post. Trust me I know about the "SI did nothing either" very very well.
:=) Gary Swancey
what do I find it under. Never had you bookmarked or knew who you were
I have little fear of being wrong. I have been wrong many times in the past and most likely will again many times in the future.
However, regarding the posts in question which were perpetrated by yourself and the aformentioned associates as you pointed out so delicately in your prevoius post.
You and you compatriots made several posts to a thread that were, in the opinion of the CoB, myself and the site administrator, disruptive of the thread. That you have a history with the other posters and the CoB is a matter of public record. That one of your number is involved in a legal action (public record confirmed by your own post) with the CoB in question only underscores the obvious.
In another post you make a statement concerning that you are under a gag order concerning this legal action. If so your actions here may have actually weakened whatever presentation the case may have. It may even subject you to a contempt of court violation regarding the gag order.
Be reminded that this board is governed by the ToU and continued personal attacks upon the directors will be treated accordingly.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
patricia
go check my profile on SI
that was the most ABSURD accusation of them all
I still laugh over it because it just shows how stupid these people are and how low they will stoop...well that isnt quite right..how low they will stoop will come out in court
Gary
If one poster OPENLY states that they are not another poster posting under another name on the same site(iHb), would that not be enough of an answer that they are only posting under one name.
It sure seems so simple really. If Bob finds out otherwise, then he would do whatever Bob does with the liar. He chould also do something about that phony poster in my opinion who is trying to imitate someones style etc.
I am sure that if I were so inclined, I could become a poster who appears to be a poster here. I could just read all their posts and copy their syles and learn what to do. I think others could do that also, which makes me suspect to others wanting to get others in trouble for some hidden agenda, namely permanent termination and distraction from themselves perhaps. But what do I know, just all my thoughts
I remember when on SI I was accused of being Lisa/Viperchick. I said I was NOT her, yet the accusations did not stop by the accuser. SI did nothing about it either, which was a real shame.
No gary,
Your mensa IQ is trying obfuscate. Here is the STATEMENT OF FACT THAT YOU WERE MAKING:
then enforce the rules like the multiple aliases of say Viperchick who is posting under two on the EGADS. Enforce the rules. But you are tryiing change them not enforce them and that is my focus.
SO AGAIN, NAME THE TWO ALIASES THAT I WAS POSTING UNDER ON THE EGADS THREAD. YOU WERE STATING IT AS FACT. VIPERCHICK IS NOT POSTING UNDER TWO ALIASES ON THIS THREAD.
Sam takes the high road
lisa and tim luke get down and dirty
just be glad tim is not here and you only have to deal with me ))))
OH BROTHER IS RIGHT> A fact is something that cannot be refuted. Fact: two handle were complaining about the same deletion and both had similiar handles "Viperchick" and that is what I stated and I took it to Bob looks to see if they are one in the same I do not have the resources.
:=) Gary Swancey
Oh brother
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=106316
How many posts were made on this thread at the time. Okay, so what is suppose to be my other handle that I am posting on this thread with that you STATED AS FACT.
Yes, you stated it as fact.
"1. I believe you as with the historical postings that you refered to me to on another site which has nothing to do with this site clearly shows you for whatever reason had a problem with Jenna."
Do provide links please
and as far as disruption...OH BROTHER...i think you should go look at your posts on Bobs thread.
So in other words, as long a member doesn't put a valid STOCK symbol in the title it is a PERSONAL THREAD...and the COB can rant all they want and the victims posts can be deleted.
Correct. And also, so there can later be no question about whether or not it's a "personal board" (which I don't believe is clearly defined anywhere), it shouldn't reside in any category like "Canadian Stocks", "Listed and Nasdaq", or "OTCBB".
Glad to know the parameters of Sam's new thread.
The understanding as presented to me is that there *are* no parameters.
I ask only as a person who would rather not see a site-destructive flamewar erupt (that I would be forbidden to address) that the people participating in it take the moral higher ground and not engage in personal attacks, but I can not insist on that in any official capacity and if people don't want to comply with my sincere wishes on the matter, that is entirely up to them.
Regards,
Bob Zumbrunnen
Operations Manager, Investors Hub
BOP
You must be pretty good at what you do. I do think that you might have forgotten one thing tho.
There might be posters that want to see posters totally suspended, off the boards forever, and it would be very easy to pick a similiar screen name, if you have a lot of connections you can even ask someone to register and sign on with a similar name, and I then then can try to copy that posters style and thoughts, making it appear to be one and the same.
Is is really either black or white with no grey area?
You could be wrong in what you are assuming at times but if you know for SURE, that might be a different story.
Just giving my opinion without really following a lot of the posts with content, just the general idea of trying to say someone is somebody and they might just not be that somebody because of, well, I already explained it.
One I never stated your exact handle I did state Viperchick and I did state it to Bob the Admin to go check it out. PERIOD> NOw just because you state it with convictions does NOT make it a fact. Also you have made a lots of statements and I have remain quiet as the process went through its steps.
1. I believe you as with the historical postings that you refered to me to on another site which has nothing to do with this site clearly shows you for whatever reason had a problem with Jenna.
2. You are contiumally posting to her personal board and she is deleting you, which is her right since you apparently are stalking her through out the internet, which is stalking.
3. you want to attack because suddenly two "Viperchick: Aliases show up protesting. That gives reason forBob to check it out.
4. If one of the alises disappear then I can conclude that it was a multiple in reality.
5. The bottomline here is we only offer an opinion and Bob has final say so. PERIOD.
6. We cannot undelete only Bob can.
7. In order for something to be a fact someone has to know or has access to know that one person is posting under two different alaises ... I do not that resource so I took to the proper resource.
8. I agree with BOP on his final opinion.
9. I agree with BOP's reccomendation.
10. I believe you are merely disrupting that thread.
:=) Gary Swancey
"I should note, however, that the same "the rules" I'm referring to also forbids me from taking any administrative action (such as restoration of posts), so what I'm offering here is solely my own opinion and the bottom line, as it currently apparently stands, is that posts can be deleted from that thread for any reason whatsoever, or even no reason at all."
So in other words, as long a member doesn't put a valid STOCK symbol in the title it is a PERSONAL THREAD...and the COB can rant all they want and the victims posts can be deleted.
Glad to know the parameters of Sam's new thread.
"Throw in your comments above commenting on personal information from persons you claim to have no connection to and it is a simple matter to arrive at the obvious conclusion"
YOUR CONCLUSION WAS WRONG, DUDE. So how much else will you be WRONG about in the future.
Care to explain this above comment?
I have reviewed the posts being deleted from that thread and it is my opinion that the posts are (in both intent and reality) disruptions to the normal flow of the thread and I agree with the deletion reason of "Thread Disruption".
The intended spirit of that thread is for a group of people, likely share membership at another site in common, to talk about certain trading calls. Anything else is disruptive. Especially when it's continuation of a previously established pattern of participating in that thread solely for the purpose of disrupting it.
Someone has, however, asked that I remove the restriction on them creating another thread for these dissenting points of view to be aired, and I have told him to go ahead and do so as a Personal Thread. Though "the rules", as I'm led to understand them, don't forbid such a thread being used strictly as a personal attack forum (ie. It's a Personal Thread, so there are no rules), I've asked that the new thread not be used that way in the interests of not being destructive to the site.
I should note, however, that the same "the rules" I'm referring to also forbids me from taking any administrative action (such as restoration of posts), so what I'm offering here is solely my own opinion and the bottom line, as it currently apparently stands, is that posts can be deleted from that thread for any reason whatsoever, or even no reason at all.
Regards,
Bob Zumbrunnen
Operations Manager, Investors Hub
Due to the similarity of the posts style and syntax, coupled with the apparent connection between the two aliases. Throw in your comments above commenting on personal information from persons you claim to have no connection to and it is a simple matter to arrive at the obvious conclusion.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
Monitor away, big guy..your statement of fact that I was posting under two monikers WAS FALSE and you owe me an apology but I am sure I will never see it
You make a lousy director.
FIRST you state that it is clear cut that I am two people. Bob blew up your CLEAR CUT accusation showing you that you were full of it. I am still posting so surely you must get the idea how off base YOUR CLEAR CUT accusation was...
Second, you are talking about something in which you don't have full knowledge. NOTHING I am posting can help ME in an impending lawsuit. Tim Luke is the one who has filed suit against Jenna and Pristine. Just like the postings of Cousin Shorty cant help him in an impending lawsuit (my assumption as I do not believe he has an impending lawsuit)
However, our postings DO MAKE A POINT FOR THOSE THAT CARE TO SEE IT.
Normally I would not post the results of my review publicly But In this case I must make an exception.
It is Clear now that several persons, (Some using similar Handles) were involved in an effort to establish a precedent that might aid them in an impending lawsuit. In this particular instance I feel that the posts in question were posted for the sole purpose of inflicting harm on the CoB. That is the definition of harrassment. As such I will recommend that the posts remain deleted. Further harrassment by these individuals should be punsihed by suspension.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
QLGC chart looks the same as dozens of others right now. Long term support for the stock is just above 30, so if you want to put it in your IRA, I would wait for a better pattern to form or wait for it to break below 33 to go long.
Shorter term, it's a great stock to day trade and position trade from looking at the chart, but I have not traded the stock for months. Looks like lots of long position and day players got spanked after Big Al spoke yesterday. If you want to go long on a position trade, right now would be as good a spot as any...just have your sell stop limit set and get out if it decides to fill that gap from this morning.
CIEN will probably give you a clue on where QLGC is going to go. If you are trading QLGC short-term, watch CIEN at the same time and go with CIEN's direction.
It looks like a great stock to trade, thanks for reminding me of it!
BOP do you see the two aliases ... I am monitoring this.
:=) Gary Swancey
You won't be able to do that because everything is being deleted.
Bob will have to do it because he has the access to the removed messages.
I asked Cousin shorty his opinion about a stock that he seemed to call correctly on that thread.
and
BAM
DELETED
I see.
Bob created this thread and placed Gary and Myself as directors to handle the inevitable complaints from the deleted without cluttering up the Q & A board. I assure you Bob is still reviewing all deletions. However, I do not have the same level of access to deleted information that Bob has. I am here as an impartial reviewer of a situation and will pas my opinion on to Bob. This is primarily to ease his workload and save him a few headaches. I apologize if you find this system inconvenient but it is what we have to work with. Now if you will calm down and wait while I review what is going on and get all of the information, I will be making a recommendation to Bob as soon as I complete my review. You cooperation will be appreciated.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
I provided the thread name in my original post. I provided the content.
I provided ALL I CAN PROVIDE. I cant provide the content of the message I was repying to BECAUSE IT WAS DELETED.
Yes, I am caustic about this. Bob has said all deletions go through him. He should be able to pull up this info instead of telling me to jump through hoops to try to find post numbers and links when the site does not make it easy to navigate.
I have provided my content. There was NOTHING wrong with my content.
Bob can now go and find it and tell me why it should be deleted
HE IS SUPPOSE TO BE REVIEWING ALL DELETIONS ANYWAY
Thank you for providing the thread name. however I have a great deal of difficulty understanding how you can be so certain that your post was proper when you cannot present the CONTENT of the post you replied to. However I will see what I can find out.
BTW, Are you always this caustic with people helping you?
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
You will have to come up with another way.
I dont have that info
The way IHUB has this set up sucks..I dont know the message numbers. ALl I can tell you is that the message number I was replying to was cut and pasted and it was on the Market Gems thread.
All of these deletes are suppose to go to Bob so you have to get it from him.
I provided the content. There is nothing wrong with what I posted - PERIOD. It should not have been removed
You are heading in the right direction. Please now include the message that you were replying to and the thread on which both were posted.
Lisa,
I am not trying to be difficult, but we must establish a procedure for submitting requests for review. I will appreciate your cooperation.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
WHAT?
His posts were on IHUB and they included SI links. If you follow the links you will see those posts weren't deleted. It was his post on IHUB and he provided the entire post. Get with the game plan here if you are going to be a director. All of these deletions are suppose to be going through Bob so I would assume he should be able to look at ViperLukeetc profile or whatever and find out which posts are being deleted.
And here is my post that got deleted AND IT IS ON IHUB and I dont have the link because the post was deleted nor do I have the post number because the post was deleted on the market gems thread
Posted by: Lisa aka Viperchick
In reply to: cOUSIN SHORTY who wrote msg# 1887 Date: 5/16/2001 11:12:55 AM (ET)
Post # of 1897
I think I remember you talking about how QLGC had bottomed out and looked like a long.
I cant find the post and the search function doesnt work. It may be that it got deleted. posts have a way of doing that around here
I didnt do the play but it moved up 'nicely'.
What do you see at this point?
Viper...
We can only respond to deletions on the IHUB System. The references you provided are from SI. If your complaint is concerning an IHUB deletion, please provide the pertinent information and it will be reviewed.
Thank you for your participation.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
My first post deletion. I guess who you know might get you into trouble on this site.
I don't see what is wrong with my post. We are all trying to decipher Jenna speak.
Someone should come up with a website that might help us in that regard.
My post was to NotLuc who was trying to figure out the call of Jenna:
Don't worry. You just fell victim to Jenna speak.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=15493929
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=15752469&s=insp
Join the club
Her members probably have that problem, too.
As long as the directors maintain impartiality this should prove a very effective tool. Notice I did not say fair. The rulebook for the game of golf is 14 inches thick to insure that the rules are enforced equally across all situations. And nowhere does it say anything about fair...fairway...but not fair.
David Weed
aka the Bird of Prey
www.warp-drive.com
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