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It would be awfully strange for someone to make a phone call while I was in the same room have a conversation - and that phone call turn out to be fictitious. I recall there was a snowstorm at the time in MN or where ever they are.
Why would someone do that? Especially a friend. To what end?
Our track record of picking solid, fully reporting companies with revenue is outstanding.
Who is "us"? Are "you" a group of paid promoters or frontloaders?
I totally agree. Take care Nitwit!
Wow just glanced at a chart... hmmm... it should bounce much more... I said should ... much much more... and it should should should go up tomorrow... it better... lol... peace
Hey guys and gals?
It would be appreciated if you take this argument to the Parking Lot, where it belongs.
OK, I see.
You're pretty savvy, I bet. But does that male friend of yours know that making things up and posting them on a public message board in order to affect a stock price is securities fraud? Kinda like the NEI Webworld case.
http://www.cybercrime.gov/usamay2001_3.htm
I'm not saying that's what happened here. Just sayin'.
Exactly! I'm still red!
Hopefully... today it tried to bounce and well of course it did from the .0072 low... but come on... bounce better than that
that's why I made it well within the TOU so admin would restore it if they tried to delete it.
:)
I trade with a group of people. One of senior people called the company. That person was a male. I passed on what I was told.
I've been a pole-dancer for 5 years and I hadn't heard of it either. (j/k)
Layla
Yes, very interesting. I hope you don't mind if I repost your FIND post here, in case it mysteriously disappears from the FIND board. Right now it's here
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=44950971
but I'd hate to see you have to retype that info if it's deleted.
""Just confirmed that FIND is going to release some kind of a preliminary Q stating record sales.
Layla"
I was assured via phone and email by the CFO that they would not be releasing a "preliminary Q".
You do realize that in order to have "record sales, revenue, etc" they would have a 4th qtr that had over 3.5 million in sales on the heels of having done only 473,000 in sales the quarter immediately prior? Especially when the CFO also stated that the reason the bottom line was looking better was not because of increases in revenues, but rather a decrease in expenses and informed me that the employee number listed on pinksheets.com (27 employees listed there) was not accurate anymore and that it had been greatly reduced as they had shifted more focus to internet marketing while still maintaining their presence at christian book expos.
I find it very hard to believe that the CEO, who doesn't even field Investor phone calls and is very reserved about sending out PRs would all of a sudden on the phone one day tell a caller that they were having "record sales, revenue, etc." and all of a sudden decide that they should send out a preliminary Q with said record revenues.
People can check here for all of the recent news releases from this little company...
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=find#getNews
Sounds more to me like the information being provided to this board is false.
One thing that is certain though is that the CFO of this Christian based company was not pleased about the possibility of fabricated information being thrown around a message board.
stay tuned for the details from the CEO..."
Chart shaping up Nitwit. I think it should go higher tomorrow. *Fingers crossed*
Understandable. Just telling you what the fuss is about.
hahaha.
I guess she didn't really expect that anybody would actually talk to the company.
I had talked to the company long before this and when I read some of the BS posted on that FIND board I was like WTF??? that does not sound like them at all. The guy was super cautious to not give out too much information.
Now she is saying she didn't even talk to the guy that somebody told her about it, lol. LOVE the backtracking going on.
Did you notice too that the first contact info that was posted as who was spoken to was for Kirk Rowland, the guy who handles investor phone calls. Then after that was shot down it turned to the CEO.
Just Asking the Question.
It's not directed at you by any means.
It's called a bounce.
Well, SOMEONE deleted the post that I linked to, and you're the assistant mod over there so I assumed that it was you.
But wait a sec. I'm not playing games but maybe I'm confused. When Springroll asked who was spoken to, YOU replied "The CEO." Are you not really a "she," or were you answering a question posed to someone else?
YOU wrote:
"Just confirmed that FIND is going to release some kind of a preliminary Q stating record sales.
Layla"
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=44898641
Springroll asked:
"who did you confirm this with??
I just spoke to Kirk Rowland who is the CFO and the IR contact and he told me that no such information was given out nor do they plan on issuing such a statement."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=44939127
You replied:
"The CEO."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=44940146
So are you now saying that it wasn't actually you who spoke to the "supposed" CEO?
Let's not even get into what the hell a "preliminary Q" is. I've been a securities lawyer for 25 years and I've never heard of that concept.
I'm more confused. The she that called the CEO was in fact a HE.
I see y'all are playing games with the words and the posts.
My point is the CEO said what he said whether he was supposed to or not.
I haven't deleted any posts.
Well Gosh,
You posted that on this board. And I've had a visit from the other poster. So I'm guessing that's what y'all are thinking.
Our track record of picking solid, fully reporting companies with revenue is outstanding. Unfortunately there are a lot of peeps who daytrade off our picks and artificially drive the price up and down.
I would assume the CEO would say the same words to the next person who calls, unless he spoke out of turn and realized his mistake.
I am sticking behind my pick 100%.
Layla
I'm confused.
I didn't say anything about P&D (although I guess we can let the chart speak for itself). I'm wondering about what, based on Springroll's post, looks like an outright fabrication. If I were to call the CEO, would he deny ever saying what he supposedly said?
Of course, now you've deleted the post I linked to, but I have a hard time believing that someone would suggest that she called to speak to the CEO and got some other rogue employee.
"And whoever it was on the phone (the CEO is who was asked for) said there were having record sales, revenue, etc.
I have a hard time believing someone pretended they were the CEO."
Speaking of P&D's Check out NTEC.
from their S-8: They are liquidating. Why are they pumping it? They are done.
On March 2, 2009, Neose filed a certificate of dissolution with the Delaware Secretary of State pursuant to its Plan of Complete Liquidation and Dissolution, which was approved by the Board of Directors and the stockholders of Neose (the “ Liquidation ”). The Company closed its stock transfer books and discontinued recording transfers of shares of its common stock at the close of business on March 2, 2009. In connection with the Liquidation, the Registration Statement is hereby withdrawn and all securities registered hereunder, which remain unsold as of the date hereof, are hereby removed from registration.
Because SOME people are trying to dump on the stock (FIND) and kill the run doesn't mean that what was told to an investor was wrong. Or that it is a P&D.
Do your due. FINDEXE is an awesome company,
Layla
Shameless. After confirming with the CEO that the company was having a record quarter (ahem), all of a sudden the CYA card gets played. Now just waiting for posts to be deleted.
LOL, I just followed this post backward. Nice job.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/replies.aspx?msg=44945344
If there was anyone home at the SEC, this sort of thing would be legally actionable.
absolutely is a manipulation game.
They are even making up crap about the company telling people that they are having record revenues.
its total BS on a low floater.
Appears they are looking for round two on their pump. Follow the messages from the very first post. 100+ posts the first 3 days, then silence. Then another 150 posts yesterday and today, hoping for another pop. Based on who's posting, I'm guessing it's another manipulation game.
anybody seen this board yet?
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=16654
Well I'm in then. That's enough dd for me.lol
OH they are all going to be gazillionaires
It's still trading .0002 X .0003 Where is all the money made?
Now that has to be some really good drugs to say that.
FFGO post. I am beyiond amazed if even a shred of thispost is legitmate thanks.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=44930841
Posted by: haveaniceday Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:27:13 PM
In reply to: haveaniceday who wrote msg# 95547 Post # of 95657
On the second day of the time left till the end of the year and till my possible new wealth from FFGO and the offeree, I want to thank my discount broker for allowing me to use the Internet to make online orders and all the websites giving info on stocks and all the message boards and the info and the support they give. A big thank you to all the people posting on them. All this has helped me decide to buy penny stocks and this one in particular.
Years ago, I saw a post saying something like: "don't compare CMKX to this gem" and it convinced me to buy this stock. If the person who wrote it is still here, I would like to say thank you, you gave me years of frustration and of hope at the same time and in the end you have helped me make a lot of money (well, I certainly hope this will come true and if it does, I will thank the people who will give it to me. I'd be ready to do it tomorrow, being ahead of the deadline would be a nice way to make the past be the past!)
Thanks Vianna, Texan, Prisoner, Paunch, Bobbydb and all the shareholders who have posted here in the last years and kept the flame of hope alive. (and also Stephen Lumb and Gertrudegold)
You all have a nice day
Couldn't happen to a nicer group of fellows....lol
wow, ihub is quiet..must be the holiday season, but when you see
three of your own posts in the hot link at 9:30 pst things are very quiet!
no problems there, the sec 8 biz will be heating up and all eyes will be on ihub again.
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Wow PMAH opened near LOD and is approaching HOD - I think there was news also. Anyway I gotta note that when its due as you may have noticed I bash the PSC scammers a tad
Well the Con Artists don't much care about facts, they aren't part of the Tout Sheets.
They are only concerned with vague hyperbole and fluff, just like the PR's put out by the scam companies they are paid to promote.
PMAH LOl still not back to open of the first day pump but yetthey are dislocating their shoulders today claiming they got a big lift on it.
funny how the real facts are so different than their hype facts
PSC = Pesky Sheeple Con Artists
The gift that just keeps on taking...lol
Wow. What action on MTCH this morning! lol
If 70-80% carnage after the pump doesn't teach you anything, then I guess you should get what you deserve.
Slimey....the most complimentary word I can use.
P/D scammers stats are kept at:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=15296
in case you want to see how completely horrible anything these guys touch can turn in to.... just take a look at those numbers. Any stock you see with these names attached should send you running....
Coming from a Triangle(PAID TOUT) LMAO
Wow... kind of like Satan stopping by Heaven to say hello...
Paid promoters....sleazy
Someone gave hototc $100,000 for their crappy email writeup.
Disgraceful!
Hototc.com and monsterstox.com are both pumping MTCH today. The last time they pushed it from .07 to .13 but it came back down almost immediately. This time it's starting at .05 so I don't think we'll see double digits. Someone gave hototc $100,000 for their crappy email writeup.
unreal Saturday night and PSC send out two pumps - both repumps
PMAH - which I documented the 40% tank on the first day they mentioned it. CSRFF has been a bit better I think
Hey guys who do you use to get borrows. I have been out of the game for a few years but used to use a Canadian outfit. Now I can go that route. What brokers do you recommend. Thanks in advance.
CVRG. Damn. PSC can really do a helluva job lmao....
Great alert on OPTZ by them lol - it was up 500% then at a buck now .60 two days later. These guys are as pathetic as PSC and the rest of them. Frontloading paid shills
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You will see anytime you attempt to question the fundamentals of a stock you will be labeled a basher. Pump crews do not need anyone planting seeds of doubt in the minds of the "low hanging fruit". This is how they make a living. They will get very nasty when you even suggest a particular stock might not be 10 bagger. The key is to get into the run quickly and get out before the pumpers can take your money. Shave their profit by being the first to sell into the run. NEVER hold an OTC or .pk stock EVER! Play the Mo, if you get your buy in soon enough, you will make profit. If you missed it DO NOT, and I repeat DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIES ON THE BOARD. It is NOT just consolidation, it is NOT flippers, it is NOT the MM's holding it down for a bigger run, etc... It is the vermin taking advantage of novice investors by telling you they are averaging down. They are not. They are liquidating their position and if you are buying to average down you are buying the very same shares they claim to be holding. DO NOT believe the biggest lie of all "This is the real deal" because it's not. The overwhelming vast majority of penny stocks are plays. THAT'S IT! Do not be suckered into being a bag holder. ALWAYS take profits.
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They love to throw THIS around but I ask you, why are there no compensated bashing sites???
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