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Just peeped in on RVGD. OMG what a scam and a half. Where did the pumpers go? They booked up and left over 440 bagholders.
Ibox is a pathetic nothing. Gone all the glitter. Can't sell shit without glam and glitter.
I have been thinking about the amount of low level crime that goes on among “nice” people…..people who do things that are illegal, bragging and laughing about it as though it elevates them to a special strata of society because they are smart enough to get away with it.
I’m thinking of a woman’s husband who brags about tearing up his numerous speeding tickets because he “knows the right people.” He also brags about not paying any property taxes on his very spacious elegant home (complete with hollow columns) because he “knows the right people”.
His wife used to receive an executive salary in cash to avoid paying income tax. They would brag about it and about how smart they were to outsmart everything and everybody. Are they low-level sociopaths? There was a pattern of chronic violations of rules and laws, along with the pattern of thinking that entitled them these exemptions. Superoptimisim and a sense of invincibility along with justifications such as “everybody is doing it” often accompanied their bragging.
He won’t ever get caught or be forced to do the right thing because he knows all the right people! The “right people” are dispensing favors to receive favors from another group of “right people”. The city in which all this occurs is rife with corruption and such practices are common.
I think a lot of this goes on. I think sociopaths are more common than we would like to think. I don’t agree with the statistics commonly quoted, but that’s just my unscientific personal opinion. The sociopath who puts their spouse, friend, neighbor, relative, or employee, through hell will be the guy others know superficially or in some incidental capacity. They might see signs and patterns, but short of some violent criminal act personally involving them, they will move on to the demands of the day and dismiss it.
Note that sociopaths try to fool both themselves and others with these disordered thinking patterns.
Cognitive pattern #1 Molification: Molification refers to the thoughts sociopaths use to lay blame for their irresponsible antisocial behavior outside themselves. According to sociologists Sykes and Matza these justifications can be grouped into five major “neutralization techniques”:
1. Denial of responsibility. Sociopaths deny responsibility by claiming their behaviors are accidental or due to forces beyond their control. Perhaps Madoff was thinking “I am under pressure to deliver what people asked for.” i.e. “The investors made me do it.”
2. Denial of injury. No one got hurt, and therefore there’s no harm. “All these people are rich anyway.” Madoff reportedly did not take a client who had less than a million dollars to invest.
3. Denial of the victim. Sometimes sociopaths admit that their actions cause harm. In these cases they can justify their behavior by denying the victim. In this case Madoff was thinking “The rich deserve whatever they get.”
4. Condemnation of the condemners. Instead of focusing on their own actions, sociopaths focus on the motivations or behaviors of the people who disapprove of them. So Madoff was likely thinking “How do you think these rich people got their money anyway?” or “Everyone on Wall Street is just as corrupt as I am.”
5. Appeal to higher loyalties. Sociopaths claim that their behavior is consistent with the moral obligations to their group. Using this line of reasoning, Madoff would say, “I stole to provide for my family.”
Cognitive Pattern #2 Cut-off: Cut-off refers to the techniques sociopaths use to avoid thinking about negative consequences. They cut themselves off from any worry or guilt they might be inclined to feel. In this pattern Madoff who is 70 now was likely thinking, “I’ll be dead before they figure out what I’ve done.”
Cognitive Pattern #3 Entitlement: According to Dr. Walters most sociopaths believe that laws and social rules are necessary. “However they also believe that they are somehow personally exempt from the rules that govern the rest of us. This sense of entitlement is what provides the (sociopath) with permission to violate societal laws and the personal rights of others.” He is, after all the great, lovable, charming and exceedingly brilliant Bernie Madoff!
Cognitive Pattern #4 Power Orientation: There are those who are strong and those who are weak. The weak are prey for the taking. “If a person is stupid enough to fall for my con then he doesn’t deserve his money anyway.”
Cognitive Pattern#5 Sentimentality: Sentimentality involves an attempt by the sociopath to present himself in as favorable a light as possible. How much money did Madoff give to charity so that other people would see him as kind and generous?
Cognitive Pattern#6 Superoptimism: The sociopath’s tendency to be extremely optimistic and self-confident about not getting caught is referred to as superoptimism. According to Walters, “Experience has taught (sociopaths) that the many crimes they get away with greatly outnumber the crimes for which they have been caught.” The SEC did investigate Madoff 10 years ago as he continued his fraud. I think beating that investigation likely made him feel even more invincible.
Cognitive Pattern #7 Cognitive Indolence (laziness): According to Walters, “Like water running downhill, the (sociopath’s) thinking takes the path of least resistance.” Why should Madoff do all that investing? It’s too much like work, when you can simply take money from one guy and give it to another. It is much more fun to schmooze and play golf.
Cognitive Pattern #8 Discontinuity: The sociopath fails to follow through on commitments, carry out intentions, or remain focused on goals over time. Discontinuity is reflected by the fact that Madoff at 70 will likely spend the rest of his life in prison. Though I think so-called successful psychopaths have lives marked by less discontinuity than the unsuccessful ones.
Bernie Madoff cheated a 95 year old man, a Holocaust survivor and many others. If you are like me, you are wondering, “What was he thinking?” Personally, I don’t find the “without conscience” explanation of this kind of behavior very satisfying. You can’t convince me that Madoff was without thoughts as he created false documents and told frank lies to people. He had to have been thinking something.
What was Bernie Madoff thinking?
“It takes an extraordinarily heartless conman to swindle a survivor of Auschwitz and Buchenwald and Nobel Peace Prize winner out of all his charitable funds.” Wrote James Bone in the Times Online.
“Yet that is exactly what Bernard “Bernie” Madoff is alleged to have done to Elie Wiesel, the author of the Holocaust classic Night and a friend from the Jewish community in south Florida.
According to the Times Online article, “The Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity now admits that it invested $15.2 million (£10.1 million) with Mr Madoff that represented “substantially all of the foundation’s assets.” The charity of the Nobel laureate, in New York, will have to raise new funds if it is to maintain its two centers in Israel that help Ethiopian Jews and Darfuri refugees and continue its other work.”
Perhaps the person who lost the most by trusting Bernie Madoff is 95 year old Carl J. Shapiro, who has been a personal friend to Madoff for nearly 50 years. In addition to losing 500 million dollars in the relationship, Shapiro at 95 is confronted with the reality that someone he thought of as “a son” did this to him.
"SNOPES" VALIDATES THE BELOW
FACTS:
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's home district includes San Francisco. Star-Kist Tuna's headquarters are in San Francisco, Pelosi's
home district. Star-Kist is owned by Del Monte Foods and is a major contributor to Pelosi. Star-Kist is the major employer in American
Samoa employing 75% of the Samoan workforce. Paul Pelosi, Nancy's husband, owns $17 million dollars of Star-Kist stock.
In January, 2007 when the minimum wage was increased from $5.15 to $7.25, Pelosi had American Samoa exempted from the increase so Del
Monte would not have to pay the higher wage. This would make Del Monte products less expensive than their competition's.
When the huge bailout bill was passed, Pelosi added an earmark to the final bill adding $33 million dollars for an 'economic development credit in American Samoa'. Pelosi has called the Bush Administration "CORRUPT" ? ?
THEY RIP YOU OFF !!!! And they do sleep well !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They do not have....Conscience
HONESTY ???
1988 Youth of Today Honesty Live Anthrax Connecticut NYHC
Amd good luck to you guys. I hope the SEC nails em to the cross.
Oh poo, IBIN stalled. Couldn't get out now if I tried.
Cracks me up when someone brags about how smart they are and thier charting abilities, and come to find out in reality they've lost 40k. LMFAO
Lesson.....lying in the end will get you worse off than if you had been a honest person. Probabaly not learned though.
Jumped in IBIN this morning..........indicators turning up. Maybe a pop here soon.
Keeping an eye on IBIN. Not ready yet but anytime now........
CPWM has caught my interest too.
And hey hey hey, time for phase two. For Midget.
Out at 5.03. Probably shoot to 7 tomorrow.
Got out today at 2.20. Too early but at least I got out. LOL
Greed is the self-serving desire for the pursuit of money, wealth, power, food, or other possessions, especially when this denies the same goods to others. It is generally considered a vice, and is one of the seven deadly sins.
I remember reading this quote by Robert Hare…….”I always said that if I wasn’t studying psychopaths in prison, I’d do it at the stock exchange,”
Right on some wrong on others. LOL Market is wacky.
Check out IDMCQ.
Lost a little chunk on GM today ----- but sold at 5% loss -- not bad as far as losing goes -------- MBI has been a consistant loser daily for the last couple months. I wouldn't hope for a run tomorrow --- but who knows??????? It's ALL BULLSHIT ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good Luck Cutie.
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MBI is looking interesting here. Double bottom w/ alot of recent insider buying.........
Should be able to buy in at the Open and Cash in for a 10-15% Profit before EOD with GM. I am going to give it a shot. Could Explode Quick, so be ready with the SELL Button to catch it at the Top.
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WRES Deadcat bounce or a reversal? Looking for one or the other LOL
I tell everyone anymore. Don't trust anything or anyone.
It's all a scam.
Penny stocks - The anatomy of a pump and dump
Wall Street, but shhhh, don't tell anyone else.
2009 goal for me is SAVE NEW INVESTORS GETTING INTO CROOKED / SCAMMED STOCKS !!!! ANY HELP APPRECIATED !!!!!!!!
LINK IN MY SIGGY TO POST SOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TIA
BBB
For gods sake mark this board and report all SCAMS out there !!!
TIA
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ESLR is looking good also.
Going to play XRIT today. Chart looks like a nice pincher.
Looks like TS will have to Cut Back on the "1812" Beer, as he has only taken in FIVE BUCKS so far in the first 2 1/2 hours of trading at ZERO BID! He will have to go back to his GURU KK and learn how to Work the MAGIC on the Longs when ALL is LOST!
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Let the Slaughter Begin if the Supreme Court takes on the CORT/DONOFRIO Case today. Doubt they have the "NADS" to do it, but all Hell will hit the Markets - along with everything else if they do put a stay on delivering the Electoral Vots. Either way, get ready for HELL to PAY when the truth is finally revealed!
Other than that --- The Market Sucks!!!!!!
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GM might be worth a shot to buy in early and sell at a 10% gain or so during the day, as the 15B Bailout or so should give it a surge for a few hours.
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Checked the Who-Is on Scamway -- .info Too funny - LOCK-UP?
Domain Name:SEAWAYVALLEYCAPITALCORPORATION.INFO
Created On:17-Sep-2007 11:58:46 UTC
Last Updated On:29-Oct-2008 11:50:26 UTC
Expiration Date:17-Sep-2009 11:58:46 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com Inc. (R171-LRMS)
Status:PENDING DELETE SCHEDULED FOR RELEASE
Status:HOLD
Registrant ID:GODA-038966211
Registrant Name:SUB PENNY
Registrant Organization:UNORGANIZED
Registrant Street1:LOCK-UP
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Changes Often
Registrant State/Province:New York
Registrant Postal Code:66666
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2126666666
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:heIlsangeI@yahoo.com
Admin ID:GODA-238966211
Admin Name:SUB PENNY
Admin Organization:UNORGANIZED
Admin Street1:LOCK-UP
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Changes Often
Admin State/Province:New York
Admin Postal Code:66666
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.2126666666
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:heIlsangeI@yahoo.com
Billing ID:GODA-338966211
Billing Name:SUB PENNY
Billing Organization:UNORGANIZED
Billing Street1:LOCK-UP
Billing Street2:
Billing Street3:
Billing City:Changes Often
Billing State/Province:New York
Billing Postal Code:66666
Billing Country:US
Billing Phone:+1.2126666666
Billing Phone Ext.:
Billing FAX:
Billing FAX Ext.:
Billing Email:heIlsangeI@yahoo.com
Tech ID:GODA-138966211
Tech Name:SUB PENNY
Tech Organization:UNORGANIZED
Tech Street1:LOCK-UP
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Changes Often
Tech State/Province:New York
Tech Postal Code:66666
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.2126666666
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:heIlsangeI@yahoo.com
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EVERYONE ENJOY THE HOLIDAY AND TIME WITH FAMILY AND FREINDS
Underworld 3 | Rise of the Lycans
Oh ya, my Holidays are turning out to be quite different. : )
I have to thank you for the info a while back. Delved into that and gained quite abit of knowledge. I grew up in Oregon with some exposure so it was not a foreign train of thought.
Smokem while ya gottem......LMFAO
Thanks Sweetie Hope your Holidays are GREAT for you too! Yep -- Been one HELL of a ride in the Market alright. I was able to make a LOAD OF DOUGH ---- THEN GIVE IT RIGHT BACK!! Oh Well ---- When the Nukes Start Flying it won't make much of a Shit anyway. LOL ------ NOT!!
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Man O man things sure can change in a year. LOL
Hope you have a Good Thankgiving. Anymore Grandbabies coming down the pike?
ONT AT A QUARTER!!!!!! THIS IS MOST LIKELY A SURE DOUBLE IN THE NEXT 3 MONTHS
Hope all are staying Safe in the SEWER. TS in the CAN Yet?
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Thinking heavily on using my DRYS to wallpaper the bedroom.
The one person with the fake teefs needs to brush the real ones. LOL
Today we should see what "BIG MONEY" thinks about the FEDS new plan of handing out MORE FREE Bailout Money to the Crooks and also the Confidence in the New Admin. I am thinking they will put an Exclamation Point on their Feelings toward the Fed and the Freeloaders. Look for a BIG SLAM TO THE DOW TODAY! GONNA GET UGLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even Trump say's that he will be doing 95% of his dealings Overseas now. Uggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
TS gone to Jail Yet? Have my doubts that anyone will be rushing to bail him out, plus he is probably Much Safer behind Bars from the feelings I pick up from the Peeps that were "BURNED AT THE STAKE"
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Do your dirty work and then try to cover it up so you can start afresh.... LOL
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Why was the board closed? Did it get in the way of paid pumpers, err uh, promoters?
Inquiring minds want to know!!!!!!!
Not nice to kill the undead.
DISK could be a real killer here, keep your eyes on the filings:
Hi KIDS ---- Just wanted to let you know that I am still Upright and Undead!
Will be signing up again soon and re-open the board. Thanks to Ace and FS for waiting it out. Drac
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