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libra it is! LOL...u nailed me ;) ty for the input...the balance thing drives me nuts.
sell half so u don't take a bath!
just curious: are u a libra? (i'm studying astrology and how it relates to investment styles.) ur confusion as to what to do, keep everything balanced, and even ur inability to control ur emotion while trading strikes me as very libran!
with these pinks, i've learned to bail within a few days and to avoid going long. better to take a few hundred dollars loss and conserve capital than get frustrated watching stocks pop while u pop anxiety pills! So take ur 30% profit and feel good that u made some $.
cheers,
dp
got into a new play this week...now i am having a hard time identifying what kind of play it is..lol....i bought it as a momo play but now it's looking like i may do better by holding it longer term....hmmmm, that sounds like i am falling in love...gulp!
ok, rose colored glasses off! make a plan and stick to it, dingbat!
plan..plan...plan...
ok, sell some, hold some...will take my money out with a little profit and hold the rest. duhhhhhhhhh
i swear it's easier to sell red than green...i must be insane!
follow up on holding because "i know what i own"
i held thru a hellacious week....the stock drifted down about 15% which is not to bad. had i been able to flip i could have done better or i could have done worse...lol....nevertheless i am holding because i know what i own.
it's hard watching it drift down and i almost panicked and sold into weakness....BUT I DIDN'T do it :)
i am still waiting to sell half....hope to get to do that next week...will ride free.
(don’t get emotional in TRADING EVER EVER EVER!) ,
hi vera... i will only buy the stocks i am watching because i know why i am watching them..
taking a big ouchie on one i entered the other day :(
emotion....i have taken a few days to observe myself and the cast of characters here on ihub. it's been enlightening :)
stepping outside the emotional roller coaster of trading has been beneficial. i've realized that "know what you own" is probably one of the top 10 trading strategies imo. KNOW WHAT YOU OWN!
i found that when i focus on why i bought and what i own the emotion melts away. i could have been shaken out of a winning position this week had i not been focused on those 2 elements of trading.
i know why i bought and i have proof in the numbers to back it up. ding ding ding!
i know what i own. the shakes in this one have been shocking but i'm not worried because i have done my homework.
i didn't bet the farm. i have a comfortable position...didn't risk my rear to play...i can relax and make money knowing that if i am wrong (which of course is always a possibility in any stock) i will not lose sleep over it because i didn't bet too much.
this game is fun when there is no noose around the neck!
good point... lol lately i haven't had time to listen to the noise.... yes it is .. time for her to come back ;)
and don't listen to the noise...
quiet around here without sub.
G'day Vera. I wish I did have a few winning mantras. The only thing I can recommend, is that people take a look at dividend paying stocks. (Especially the older we get. LOL)
There are a couple on the Toronto exchange paying around 20% yield. I've been buying TUI.UN and it has been reliable for awhile. It's been down with the recent price of oil, but it just makes them easier to buy. It pays dividends monthly, so if you re-invest it's actualy much more than 20% annually.
But this is just my own strategy and may not be suitable for frequent traders. Good luck to ya!
Sub,
I check for your posts daily. I hope you're doing well and your heads clears soon. You're an asset to IHUB!
Sam
gonna take a break for a little while. i've got to get clear in my head what i am doing wrong. i appreciate all the help everyone has given me.
hope to be back soon,
sub
hey hansum! ty much :) stop by and give me some winning mantras once in a while.
Happy belated birthday Vera! Nice board you've started here too! Congrats!
new term... EH = never buy the "eternal high" lol...i seem to do that way too often
hey CARS! ty very much :)
hey!!!!!happy birthday sub....:)
:) that card is too much! LOL
From dwiz5's new board - Kiss Of Death Stocks
SELL AT THE HIGHEST PRICE ON DAY 2 OF THE STOCKS MOVEMENT,
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=6955
Happy Birthday Vera ;)
morning ou - glad you enjoyed... nice articel
LOL! thanks tech :) just trying to get a grip on my biggest problem in trading.
Hello, just wanted to say hi, I thought the description of this board was hilarious =)
plan the trade and trade the plan
guess i'll drive back to where i was when i had the idea..lol...left it there.
the plan...oh yea, that! LOL plan the trade and trade the plan.
ok, plan the trade and trade the plan.
happens to me all the time ... it will come back to you!
as long as you can remember your plan...lol
dang it! i had a brilliant idea today for the dumb board and now i can't remember it.
profit is good always take a little... then remember to help others.
Hi! I like your post that says..."The market doesn't care about any of your trades, good or bad. You're just a code number in a broker's ledger book. Focus only on your results, not how you look. Nobody's watching. What kind of player are you? If all you want is a 7% return, maybe you buy single A preferred stocks and live happily ever after. Once you fret about missing Google, you've lost sight of your goal.
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The market doesn't care about any of your trades, good or bad. You're just a code number in a broker's ledger book. Focus only on your results, not how you look. Nobody's watching. What kind of player are you? If all you want is a 7% return, maybe you buy single A preferred stocks and live happily ever after. Once you fret about missing Google, you've lost sight of your goal.
Your internal opponent is you, yourself. Pogo had it right. Losing your concentration will bury you along with nervousness, self-doubt and self-condemnation.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13529947
http://www.forbes.com/markets/2006/08/30/sosnoff-inner-game-cx_mts_0831sosnoff.html
The Inner Game Of Investing
Martin T. Sosnoff 08.31.06, 6:00 AM ET
Martin Sosnoff
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Some 30 years ago I devoured Timothy Gallwey's book The Inner Game of Tennis. It helped my game some, and taught me patience as an investor as well.
Anyone who watches Roger Federer set up a passing shot after four or five baseline top spin returns knows where I'm coming from. The investment world is a purely existential game. You are what you do with no shoulda, coulda, woulda Hamlets allowed in--except as patsies.
Bob Wilson, a long-ago retired hedge fund operator, is remembered for shorting tons of Resorts International, the first casino licensed in Atlantic City. It ran the only legit crap game on the East Coast for a clientele then starved for action.
Resorts as a stock soared irrepressibly from single digits to near triple digits. Wilson, who was on a round-the-world sabbatical, perceived Resorts as a seedy, plain box reconditioned hotel left over from Atlantic City's hay day in the 1920s.
Wilson's broker kept tracking him with the bad news that Resorts was soaring. Bob, unflappable, just shorted more. I'm not sure whether he enjoyed his trip, but eventually Resorts crumbled as new operators got licensed and built casinos with updated amenities. Wilson understood the competitive dynamics of the gaming business and hopefully stayed the course.
Courage, patience and the tolerance for pain are seldom remarked personality traits of star money managers. You want someone who at times feels his very skin is bulletproof. It helps if you're right, too. President George W. Bush must understand all this by now.
Today, we all play on a fast court. The market is efficiently priced. Make a mistake on a stock and it opens down 10%, the going rate. Industry sectors move into and out of phase rapidly. The Big Board, like a powerful washing machine, is determined to whiten everything in its rumbling tank.
The market is your external opponent with many unknowables. Iffy interest rates and inflation and some signs of gross domestic product deceleration are surfacing. Institutional memory helps here. This kind of setting yields 0% to 5% rates of return for stocks and bonds. If you try for too many winners too early, you will lose the game.
Your internal opponent is you, yourself. Pogo had it right. Losing your concentration will bury you along with nervousness, self-doubt and self-condemnation. One of my old partners, Milton, used to say when a trade went against him, "The market owes me." This is the right attitude, whatever you trade in--beans, heating oil, Google (nasdaq: GOOG - news - people ) options or S&P 500 properties.
Wilson's shorting of Resorts never short-circuited his trip. His mind quietly focused on the eventual crumbling of the Resorts International edifice. Wilson would judge himself only when he unwound this trade. He played his spontaneous, concentrated game like a good tennis pro. Hackers concentrate on what lousy players they are after a weak serve. Then as Gallwey says, "He becomes what he thinks."
What about positive thinking? When I buy a stock, I believe it's going up at least 25% over 12 months. Gallwey calls this process nonjudgmental awareness. Without it you will never become a great investor. I have committed enough mistakes to fill a dumpster, but I block them and go on with the game. My resolve is weakening on offshore rig operators, so I sell them down. Schlumberger (nyse: SLB - news - people ) shines brighter, and I hang in.
Your market score is in percentage points, and nobody ever gets much more than a 70% grade. This is akin to a 1945 Chateau Lafite. Maybe the 2005 Bordeaux is the vintage of the century, but I've heard that phrase too often over the past 25 years. Nobody reaches perfection.
The market doesn't care about any of your trades, good or bad. You're just a code number in a broker's ledger book. Focus only on your results, not how you look. Nobody's watching. What kind of player are you? If all you want is a 7% return, maybe you buy single A preferred stocks and live happily ever after. Once you fret about missing Google, you've lost sight of your goal.
I'm focused on compounding my money aggressively, but it didn't stop me from buying the apparently stodgy Altria Group (nyse: MO - news - people ). Instinctively, you have to know when to go for the passing shot, executing it from a position of strength, not desperation.
Gallwey calls this "knowing your goal and taking objective interest in the results." When I'm competing as an equestrian, sometimes I choose to push my horse to the edge of self-destructing, but only if I'm confident the chances are better than 50% of getting away with it. The decision is based on your horse trusting you and effortlessly shifting into fifth gear.
Gallwey sums up his inner game "as the moment-to-moment effort to let go and stay centered in the here and now action which offers the real winning and losing and this game never ends." When action is born in worry and self-doubt, it is too late to be effective. Think of calmness, but not to the point of lack of concern. The ability to separate the real from the unreal and take sensible action is axiomatic.
I translate this to mean that when there is panic in the Street, it's time to step in and buy. It hasn't failed me going back to the Cuban missile crisis in 1962, the Volcker-induced recession meltdown in 1982 and, of course, Black Monday--but that's another story.
The best investors are those who see things as they are. Ghosts of the past and monsters of the future stand exorcised. I'm still learning.
One example: Everything I know about Google (never enough) suggests its intrinsic value today is at least $375, not the $550 many analysts project in their music sheets. I hold my inventory unperturbed. The day I'm proved wrong, I'll open the window, toss out Google and go on to something new--with no regrets.
Martin T. Sosnoff is chairman and founder of Atalanta/Sosnoff Capital, a private-investment management company with approximately $5 billion in assets under management. Sosnoff has published two books about his experiences on Wall Street: Humble on Wall Street and Silent Investor, Silent Loser . He had been a columnist for many years at Forbes magazine and for three years at the New York Post . He owns personally and Atalanta Sosnoff Capital owns for clients the following stocks cited in this commentary: Google, Altria, Schlumberger.
profit is good always take a little... then remember to help others.
When I try 3 times for resolution with a company and my blood pressure goes up due to poor customer service... skip all other contacts at that company and go straight to TOP of the food chain!
When I try 3 times for resolution with a company and my blood pressure goes up due to poor customer service... skip all other contacts at that company and go straight to TOP of the food chain!
When I try 3 times for resolution with a company and my blood pressure goes up due to poor customer service... skip all other contacts at that company and go straight to TOP of the food chain!
When I try 3 times for resolution with a company and my blood pressure goes up due to poor customer service... skip all other contacts at that company and go straight to TOP of the food chain!
sit n stare = watched the profit turn to loss. solution? sell into strength! don't be the one who buys in the sky dummy!
WHY am i still using comcast???
good question... i am waiting on them now of course my service is working just fine right now of course they'll be here.. lol
LOL!! why are you still using comcast?
WHY am i still using comcast???
WHY am i still using comcast???
WHY am i still using comcast???
WHY am i still using comcast???
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