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I hope everyone has copies of ALL pr's released by Larrucea and ALL e-mails from James J. Crimi.
This info will come in handy if these guys SCAMMED it's shareholders with mis-leading info.
I hope not but it doesn't look good based on TJG's research.
jmpo
Thanks for the number I called the operator must be out for lunch just got a message I guess I will try again sometime....Thanks dtro
I just called him and he is leaving their street...says plenty of cars at the building...out front and parked in the back... drove thru the lot and there are open bays and the trash bins have trash in them...
He says its an active place, sign out front still says Elasco and there is nothing to indicate they are not still in business... try calling this number and push 233 (or maybe 223 not sure, but it will be for the operator) when you get the list... I cant right now... 714) 891-1795
Thanks no rush for me we might as well wait like I have been doing... Dtro
He is going there today... he did not have a chance to get there sooner... but they are 3 hours behind me so I wont heare anything till after the bell sometime today... he will try and get there by 4 Californina time
Tjg have you heard anything from your connection? Or dtro any updates thanks... Dtro
Well EDS is null and void as they were acquired by HP in 2008. So the only other company I can find that meet the criteria is 3M
The only F500 company I can find that meet the criteria "with sales exceeding $20 billion and operations in more than 60 countries" is EDS.
Lets hope its for the better like you said it all would have shut down if its bad just updates imo... Dtro
TJG,nice research, I think we are getting close to something whether good or bad it's about time.
jmpo
Disagree. DTRO is most likely Failing Badly Financially.
jmo
No Fins out since end of Sept by DTRO so no one has any idea what anything looks like... all speculation at this point...would be prudent to wait for facts and not post unsubstantiated rumors. IMO
$11 Million in Debt and Derivative Liability.
jmo
No product for ANY Fortune 500 company is verifiable.
Just long expresses silly rumors.
jmo
Called TDG about the Blu Vu BOV, they told me it was still in final testing for changes made for the second time.
Here is what I have so far... and their is no way to tell if this is good or bad...so beware of what you will read following this post.
Deltron's web page http://www.dtro.com/ has shut off the links that take you to both Elasco and Blu Vu. They have also shut off the link at the top of the page for contacting them.
http://www.dtro.com/Deltron_companies.html (link at the bottom of the deltron web page)
http://www.dtro.com/Contact.html ( contact link at the top of the deltron web page)
http://www.dtro.com/Deltron_companies.html (link at the top of the deltron web page)
On that web page they have posted a report that lists being sent to the IRS, but its also a report that the DTCC wants for clearing up the Chill issue.
So what we are left with is this...have they shut down the links because they are re-doing the web pages... answer is no, because if you access either Elasco or Blu Vu via the web links in the I-Box you can still get there.
Are they shut down because they may no longer be a part of Deltron and they have been sold... no way to know that...
Are they shut down because the Delton web link is simply under going normal maintanence... again no way to know.
One this that is obvious, Deltron its self is still open for business. Other wise why would they just shut down those two links and not the entire Deltron Web site.
I also called Elasco and all I got today was the answering machine, so I am asking my friend in Orange County Calif, where the Elasco plant is located to pay it a visit. When he gets back to me, if nothing as come out from Delton by then I will post what he has said.
Thats all I got so far.... GLTA... well almost to all... LOL LOL
Soon as I get it you will have it...
I'm already past all the bad news, and my DTRO account can prove
that...so bring on the news, good, bad, or ugly.
People there is something in the wind...just what I dont know for sure yet... Could be either very good or it could be very bad... I am digging and will post information as I can dig it up... But something is happening that much I can tell you for sure.
Mystery contract with mystery F500 company is almost 2 years old.
Does anyone know the duration of the mystery contract ?
Any prediction on the DEBT on next financials ? I say over 10 million.
jmpo
HEY, what product ? for what F500 company ?
DTRO is who we are talking about here... so if other companys have also been awarded a contract that has no baring. DTRO would be getting revenue from the contract. We dont talk about what other company's may or may not get..that would be OFF TOPIC, so please confine your posts to DTRO and not what other companys do.
Got a link for that or a PR... as we only have the PR that DTRO put out...but where is your info coming from...
Lots of companies who can manufacture to specs at very competitive prices
DTRO is just one of many.
jmo
DTRO is only one of many possible assemblers.
Contract may have been given to some other company or being done in house by the inventor.
jmo
Yea? We know that...always have, what's you point?
DTRO doesn't have a patent. At best they are an assembler.
jmo
WHAT?? It's the revenues that produce value to the stock, not the patent!
so it provides NO VALUE to DTRO.
jmo
So what, the patent is NOT in Deltron's name!!!
Falling right into my hands.. I have been buying for a couple of days... so far they have filled $50.00 of my order... still have more shares to buy if there are any sellers out there..
Timber, grab your hard hats she's ready to fall again.
Larrucea must need money for a movie.
jmpo
Well duh duh, did you mean PATENT ?
If an application and/or a PATENT was granted by the U.S. Patents and Trademarks it would show the applicant and the company.
jmpo
Well Duh... but that still has nothing to do with Deltron, and as I said there are over 30 new ones for LED lights... I still dont think you fully understand, its not a Deltron patent... they are just putting the light into a polymer casing that they make... the F 500 company ships the lights to them and they put them into the casing... so knowing there are new LED patents out there tells us NOTHING about who is manufacturing the end product.
Well duh... that still has nothing to do with Deltron... Deltron has a patten in place for how they MANUFACTURE
Under the U.S. Patents and Trademarks it shows the company's name and also who subitted the application or patent was issued to.
The PUMP was on for the past 2 years then came the DUMP. Then the R/S for cleaning up share price which is now down 90 % post r/s.
The flood of 23 pr's in 2010 and only 4 pr's since.
The dreaded contract that's almost 2 years old.
The rebreather expo that's almost 1 year old.
The DEFAULT of paying the annual filing fees.
The DEBT of more than 7 million dollars.
All these issues raises by personal concerns.
jmpo
*sigh* I have and I have found over 30 new pattens for LED lights for different F500 companys...
The actual problem is they do not list, nor are they required to list, how these pattens are manufactured, what exact industry they will use them in or when they will become available to the public.
There are several sites that you can look at, I used to look often, but as you point out its been two years.. I am sure the patten has long been issued...its a needle in a hay stack trying to find it.
After all it's a F500 company and supposively for led light. That does narrow it down.
Also the last pr which was awhile ago stated they made several batches for distribution.
Knowing you and how good you are with DD I would have to believe you have researched by now.
jmpo
Could it be that the MMs are holding this back and pushing it down until the 'news' comes out so they can then manipulate it in the other direction and make a killing?
While we are contemplating manipulation, the X-files conspiracy theorist in me says that someone could be pushing this down so Larrucea can't raise any money until he coughs up some payola, LOL ;)
Thank you Poorboy2.....that is a point I would have made had I thought of it... lol. but your right, who pays a commission on that type of trade... other then the MM who pay none and it keeps the chart active.... great point.
Do we have MM manipulation continuing? Who in their right mind buys or sells 500 shares for $.012? That is $6. Unless it is an MM, the cost of the trade for most people is more than that.
TJG, I hope you are right, I really do, but so far what you and I thought would happen with this company when we first bought shares has not come to pass, in fact just the opposite has happened.
When I first bought this stock at .0018 I didn't think it would fall to .0001, nor did I think there would be a 1000 = 1 rs nor did I think the stock would be trading at a 93% loss in value from my average pps, but here we sit.
To be honest at this point if we dropped down to .001 from here I wouldn't be suprised, I will be more suprised if we actually go up from here, heck I might have a heart attack from shock if we actually get some positive news out of this company.
I have been quiet and keeping my thoughts to myself, and after this vent will go back to that mode, but to say you don't think it will go 3 ticks lower and go to .009 from .012 is kinda funny to me, and I find it far more likily at this point than hitting .1 never mind .5.
and to be totally honest I am actually suprised we haven't gone below a penny already, especially after the pump and dump and the bag holders from that. It has suprised me to not see a big sell off from them to get out while the getting is good.
Absolutly no argument with you there john... my only point was that I just dont see this getting to below .01
As for it being a POS.... you bet, the company has miss handled this stock since the RS... so all we can do is just what we have been doing...sit and wait and hope that by some fluke these boobs get something accomplished... GLTY and all of us...
and based on the details in your post there is no reason we have been trading below .1. Yet here we are today at .012, below a penny is just 3 little hundreds away, while .5 is .488 away.
It's been more than 6 months since the rs, still no news. The bs about doing it to generate more interest at .10 or greater has proven to be just that bs. The longer we get nothing from the company the lower this will go.... unless we get another pump and dump and have some roll in and make a quick 100% while the rest of us keep holding a bag full of worthless stock.
At this point I would be happy to see .2 again so I can get my cash back, but I am under the impression this will be a big tax write off for me next yr.
This is a friggin joke.
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