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There were some big confident multi-million share buys in the AM....
confident ask slapping......
someone knows something....the stock traded quite high 20 years ago but not
clear what s/s is now....? ANyone contacted the TA lately?
SD
Agree, strange s/p movement, and really
moving up fast for some reason. A deal as yet
unknown?
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What is going on here today!!!!
https://sec.report/CIK/0000745655
When the offering closes there is no more information given. If you sell and your negative the company is on the hook for the balance of the tax credit debt but is not required to pay it if equity capital is outstanding and debt is still owed. You can gift your certs but you can’t gift your tax credits. Tax credits can be written down if capital is unrecoverable in the time frame the loan debt is due. The exploration date on the loan is your health indicator . Watch for your return on equity capital along with the initial and final length of time given. They could over turn a debt if there is sufficient capital to pay the upfront penalty. Read the banking act.
Best of luck. This is one hot potato that’s for sure.
Thanks eddy2, but where r u finding this information? Appreciate the info you share.
Combined internal earnings and external earnings is $.002 a share. Capital value is only valued at a million for two million in combined revenue. External revenue is $.0015. Okay every thing is begged borrowed and leased obviously off the equity holders but at $.0005 internal common share interest minus administrative fees I feel the stock is fairly valued at $.004 with some risk of course. Then what dosn’t have associated risk today ?
Huge move on the software security deployment sector. Service providers will ultimately be lifted up.
I guess what I’m trying to get across is an example of intrinsic value. The coin cost $.25 cents plus packaging. The fellow wants $42 and change per coin without the packaging but if you buy all 500 coins from him you get the packaging as well. Can’t say what the package is made of. I’m figuring it must be gold or you would be a dang fool to purchase it for that kind of money. Now if he should sell just one coin to a friend for $45 then the intrinsic value of his coils goes up dramatically as well the overall value of his coins and the packaging they come in.
I’m glad I can be a help.
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-art-collectibles/medicine-hat/canadian-silver-maples-monster-box/1567131148?utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=app_ios&utm_medium=social&utm_source=ios_social
This should help clarify things as well for you. Best of luck.
Thanks for the clarity and understanding. I have been able to find very little on company involvement. Do you have any links to give investors ideas on what will continue to happen. In .003 I thought this was going to take off, only to go back to .0006. Wonder to create next scam there is RS. Thanks for input in advance.
Thanks for the insight. I’ve had no luck finding any info on the company over the last 5+ years and wasn’t sure they were still in business.
In light of all the security issues of late I’m surprised this stock is trading so low. The demand for there expertise must be on the rise.
Lol. Thanks for the response. Good luck to you as well.
It’s loaning it’s services too a customer that trades as well on a foreign exchange
reselling the new tax credits on reinvestment of old tax debt and equity debt. They
will keep turning the debt over and over through new subsidiary customers. There was a period where debt payment exceeded forty years. I’m afraid too inform you I believe that is the case here as well. You have grandkids ? Well if you do I’m sure you will be remembered by them and there kids as well that chances are you won’t get to meet them. We humans just don’t have enough yeas on this earth to see our investments through too a final payout.
To your question I guess you can say it’s dead to us and if you want to leave it for your love ones then make sure you have your common stock certificates put under your name and mailed too you.
Best of luck.
Thanks - but do you know if there’s anything left of the company or is it an empty shell that hasn’t been shut down. Been here way too long.
They took on anormas debt to build out inventory plus issuing credit ie: receivables. Receivables is a double edge sword. They carry more risk then debt cause they relinquish control too a third party adding additional costs as well in transportation and services plus warranty for the product and services they relinquished too the customer. It’s all intrinsic liability that’s not on the books but represented in there market evaluation given them.
The spread between the outstanding shares value in relationship too assets and there accumulated debt is the intrinsic value.
Intrinsic value is the equity holders debt. The common share holders debt is the tax credit on the intrinsic value. This is all before any positive revenue is calculated minus redistribution of capital back into both deprecated assets , debt and the intrinsic assets I just mentioned.
Growth and debt holds a great amount of risk. It’s all depends how much your wanting to pay to purchase that risk that creates the market volatility we are seeing today.
How are you relating it to CCTR?
Why dilution is a good thing yet it’s frowned apon by investors. Dilution is accomplished from accumulating debt. Debt can be accumulated by three methods. One is the selling of tax credits purchased and once payed the debt becomes a common share debt represented by the outstanding share value. There is no collateral supporting the debt. It can be excellerated by paying down debt or paying out tax’s on purchased goods and services. Additional debt can also be purchased to pay it down trading company tax debt for common share tax credit. It also can be paid using private capital through an equity purchase.
It can be also achieved by reinvesting debt owed or often referred to as debt churning by the shorting of equity or repurchased common shares. This in the industry is known as preselling tax revenue, phishing, ect. .
Capital gains derived by internal revenue is taxable unless you can offset the tax debt by a tax credit yet to be collected by selling the debt through external and internal revenue or the acquiring of additional private or instutional debt.
Because all debt falls in the jurisdiction of the equity holders or common shareholders were the tax credit is not yet into the hands of the public but still in the hands of the equity holders.
So dilution can be a good thing pending on who is controlling it. Follow the money .
Added CCTR .0007 lotto
Hogan’s Hero I loved to watch that show as a kid. I believe they have cell phone kiosks on the street there in Asia. They may except bit coins for there services. I hope they don’t. Then again there are plenty a Asian currencies that are defaulting of late. They have gone out on the limb with the amount of tax credits they have on the tax books.
All tax information can be obtained through the proper government Chanel’s. Look up Donald Trumps if you like. Now his he owns but public companies tax’s are the domain of the Common Shareholders.
Anyhow things are starting to get interesting here. I wouldn’t jump in just yet when taking in the amount of tax debt that is offset by there tax credit on the books . Tax credit is derived from two sources, productivity yet to be released and sold or productivity sold on credit and secured by third party debt be it Institutional debt or equity debt and the corresponding administrative fees.
As I shared, never found anything about bit coin. IMO just deception. Maybe military as you say but doubt it. You may have got that from Hogan's Hero's. Have great day ...
Sounds like a good line of crap to me. Keep up the good work my friend. Bit coin, he he that’s a good one. How about a military retirement claiming back all the tax’s ever paid to see him through in the lap of luxury at a small promotional cost to him self and family.
Know one knows. On tweeter being bought out by bit coin but could not find a thing. Really can not trust hearsay.
Tighten up the interest by running two accounts and buy your interest then sell it back to your self on a short sale. You can then give your self the title of market maker. He he
Once a turd always a turd. Look we can speculate they bought into the Bit coin craze early and sold then lent the proceeds of there gains to a third world country to help combat Covid 19.
Now if you don’t feel warm and fuzzy with that story then there is nothing that can move this turd forward .
There is no way out my friend. Your locked into a nightmare of great proportions. There is so much liquidity it’s like picking up blades of grass. They over sold the tax credit and it’s going to take a millennium too ever dissolve it all at the rate there plugging away at it.
Out of the forty shareholders take and give a few the average quantity of shares held is twenty million per investor. I feel for the ones who over paid cause your recovery is minimal a hundred years out. Pure garbage. What they need is a big incinerator and everyone forfeit five million shares for a good old fashion wienie roast and beer to drown our disappointment in this turd.
Now there are the ones who will see it as future earnings paid but with that earnings comes an assorbanent debt to the existing common shareholders. Good luck, you will need all you can find.
Somthing seems to happen EXACTLY in this Moment, since 30 Minutes there are only buys and the chart is climbing up again right into direction of the 30s...
GLTA
Zimmerman does a lot of fake bid hitting to lure you to sell, I never fall for it ever..
(APEX ROUTING SYSTEM BABY )CAN SPOT IT ALL DAY LONG
If you have shares, best to hold. Look at 5 year chart. Something up ...
Strange ... Continues to inch up with no news, no pr?
Where is verges? In jail, I hope!!
Why would put two orders12k 35k won’t scare nobody lol
Correct and once public will fly to low pennies. Might as well add while you can.
Agreed this has continually gone up with few shares on the ask. Something is up, a merger Or if someone has taken over the stock and is planning to bring it current.
You can look at all possibilities and none right. Possible merger in works ..
Buy out ...
Really do have products.
All we know is price jumps daily. Not going down but up. Grab some while you can and make some cash.
Interesting here. Watching for more volume pushing price, along with a few other indicators before entry. Like how it’s moving this far, regardless.
Very strange the way it’s trading
No news and this thing makes a new high everyday.
Thought some sort of "fluff" news by now. Guess will push up till ready. Still do not trust them ....
Hope you make bank, it’ll take .025 to get my $$ back.
Guess we are both right ....
at the .002 as I predicted but no news as you stated.
Whatever happened to Vergas?
some bucket shop is short and needs shares
traded in the high teens 15 yrs ago
do not sell into the bid----they need shares for a new shell
Big jump today!!! Up 30%!
Maybe this baby will start paying off?
Personally I doubt it, PCs is getting to where the bag holds will start selling. Volume today indicates this
JMHO
News will come at .002 ...
They will run it to a couple cents then go dead for 15 years again. Grab a pile and exit at a penny.
Price doubles monthly recently ....
.0012 October
.0006 September
.0003 August
What is up over here. This has been walked up for months and I can’t figure out why.....
Philip M Verges - Partial Curriculum Vitae
In 2010, Philip Founded the Small Equity Initiative, A Global Advocacy And Services Group To Service And Assist Small And Medium Enterprises Coming Out Of Emerging And Frontier Markets.
In Conjunction With Philip’s Work With The Small Equity Initiative, He Was Named To A United Nations Advisory Board And Served As A Board Member Of Honduras Hope, An Organization Fostering Economic Development Investment In Honduras. In Recognition For His contracting Work With The U.S. Government, Philip Is A Recipient Of The “Earl Warren Award” for Outstanding Public Service To The United States Government.
Some say he is a genius entrepreneur.
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