Chesapeake Gold Corp (CKG)

[amarksp]

nice maps and analysis, thanks!

[SurfaceProbe]

Maps showing players around the La Juliana property

The La Juliana property is shown here as the pinkish color marked as "Chesapeake Gold Corp"




In relation to Alamos Gold's holdings, the La Juliana property is smacked
between El Jaspe and La Dura, both on Alamos's hit list to be explored
(and likely drilled, with Los Bajios on the top of the list).
See the rough trend trending up from La Yaqui in the South up towards
Grayd's Triple A claim in the North, with all these in the approximate alignmnet of the trend.



There may be a rig shortage in the area. Despite Alamos Gold loaded treasury,
Alamos has only one rig drilling. And that's a brand new rig built
by the contractor to accommodate Alamos.

Also Grayd Resource (TSX-V GYD) announced back in Jun 14, 2004
"Drilling to Commence Early July...A diamond drill contract has been
signed for a 1,500 metre drill program to commence
the first week of July. Drilling will first test the La India zone,
and then go on to test the Cieneguita zone where gold mineralization
is hosted in a 30 to 100 metre thick zone of massive and vuggy silica
which can be traced for 2 km northwest of the La India zone."
GYD may have been constrained by rig availability,
with its recent funding by Kinross,
they might have liked a more ambitious program.

BTW, back in April on BullBoard there is this message:

jackbe Post Time: 4/12/04 13:59
Someone tells me that DAE is bidding on a JV for La Juliana.
Other co's in the bidding also. Where's is La Juliana?

[Roundtrip]

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=20320405

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=20320523

[loantech]

<The gold mineralizing system at La Juliana appears to be both
structurally and lithologically controlled. Zones of high-grade
gold mineralization extend for more than 500 meters along a major
north-northwest trending fault. Several historical rock chip
samples taken from pits excavated along the fault, two to three
meters deep returned gold grades ranging between 13.0 g/t and
77.2 g/t.>

Now I sure do like this part! <g>

[Ed Monton]

Dasher Enters Into Option Agreement for La Juliana Gold
Property, Sonora State, Mexico

VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA--(CCNMatthews - Jul 16, 2004) -
Dasher Exploration Ltd. (the "Company") is pleased to announce
that it has entered into a definitive option agreement (the
"Option Agreement") with Chesapeake Gold Corp. ("Chesapeake")
(TSX-V: CKG) for the acquisition of a 60% interest in the La
Juliana Property, a high-sulfidation gold prospect located in
eastern Sonora State, Mexico. The property is subject to a 1% NSR
in favour of the original vendor which may be repurchased for
U.S. $1.0 million.

The La Juliana Property covers 700 hectares and is accessible by
an all-weather road. La Juliana is a volcanic-hosted, bulk
tonnage, epithermal gold prospect that exhibits similar
geological characteristics to El Sauzal (3.2 million ounces) and
Mulatos (3 million ounces), the only two other high-sulfidation
gold deposits known in Mexico. The prospect area is situated at
the north end of a three-kilometer-long silicified ridge, which
appears to represent a large epithermal "silica cap."

The gold mineralizing system at La Juliana appears to be both
structurally and lithologically controlled. Zones of high-grade
gold mineralization extend for more than 500 meters along a major
north-northwest trending fault. Several historical rock chip
samples taken from pits excavated along the fault, two to three
meters deep returned gold grades ranging between 13.0 g/t and
77.2 g/t. The mineralization is hosted in a series of gently
north-east dipping dacites and rhyodacites and is commonly
associated with quartz, clays, hematite and alunite. Significant
gold grades also occur in secondary structures such as
crosscutting fractures and breccia zones as well as in
sub-parallel fault structures up to 300 meters away.

In order to earn its interest under the Option Agreement, the
Company must pay $100,000 and issue 250,000 shares to Chesapeake
upon receipt of regulatory approval, pay $135,000 and issue
250,000 shares to Chesapeake when the Company commences drilling
on the property, and pay in October 2005, on behalf of
Chesapeake, US$450,000 to the original vendor of the property. In
addition, the Company must incur an aggregate US$2,000,000 in
expenditures over a period of three years, US$500,000 of which
the Company must expend during the first year.

Once the Company has acquired its interest, Chesapeake may elect
to buy back a 20% interest from Dasher in the property such that
Chesapeake and Dasher hold 60% and 40% respectively, by paying
$1,000,000 to the Company and incurring all expenditures
necessary to obtain a feasibility report on the property.

A condition of the Option Agreement is that the Company must
demonstrate its ability to finance initial expenditures by having
subscriptions for a new equity financing of no less than $500,000
in hand at the time of execution of the Option Agreement. Subject
to regulatory approval, the Company will undertake a non-brokered
private placement of 1,429,000 units at a price of $0.35 per unit
to raise proceeds of $500,150. Each unit is comprised of one
common share and one half of a share purchase warrant. Each whole
warrant will entitle the holder thereof to purchase one common
share of the Company at a price of $0.57 per share for a period
of one year. No finder's fee or commission will be paid in
respect of the private placement.

Upon the closing of this transaction the Company will immediately
begin a program that will include trenching, geochemical sampling
and geophysics to further delineate and expand drill targets
previously defined by Chesapeake.

A technical report on the La Juliana Property is currently being
prepared in accordance with the requirements of National
Instrument 43-101 by Jim Chapman, P.Geo (BC), a "qualified
person" as defined by National Instrument 43-101.

The Option Agreement is subject to regulatory approval.

ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS

John Lando, President

-30-

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT:
Dasher Exploration Ltd.
John Lando
President
[phone] or Toll Free: 1-800-663-0510
Email: [e-mail]
Website: www.dasherresources.com
The TSX Venture Exchange has not reviewed and does not accept
responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of the content of
this news release.

[loantech]

CKG and DAE write up a deal. I liked Julianna so am adding DAE. Getting a nice pop for now!

[Ed Monton]

#msg-3453609

[amarksp]

loantech comments...

Here is my take on Randy and CKG. I think I have the guy figured out, BWDIK? <g>

1. Randy has vision something that none of the other company management has that I own.

2. Randy sees all the other companies tying up land in Mexico and he knows the value of gold in the ground.

3. Randy wants the best properties and knows he has a following. SO HE DOES NOT EVER make any news releases until he has staked all he wants around a given area.

4. He knows he can drill any time and knows the last almost two years it has been more important to get the dirt first.

5. Randy has made three world class discoveries and is in his early 50's. He has told me repeatedly that he will sell all of what he has on this next go around. (I hope he doesn't but we will have to see.)

6. Randy says he can get more money on a take over by only drilling one property if he is successful on the 1st one. That is why he is being so slow and meticulous. He has mentioned he will release data on all the properties he has done that we have seen little or no information on to only 3 or 4 mid tier companies like Glamis, Meridian, Anigo Eagle etc.There will not be a series of NR's to the public.

7. He insists he wants to only drill Gitana before he sells.

8. He says it is very important to use his best geologist and drill people on one drill at a time so he can do only a few holes at a time to figure out the pattern of where and how the gold lies in the ground so he makes sure he gets good reports.
My opinion is that once he gets going we may have a CKG takeover within one year or less. That is what he wants.

I am going to put more money into CKG after the 1st drill reports. If they are bad I will add at a lower number and at 8 bucks if the initial results are good.
Tom

[amarksp]

Large Disseminated Gold Zone Defined on Mexican La Gitana Project
6/23/04

http://www.stockhouse.ca/news/news.asp?tick=CKG&newsid=2342218

Exploration Continues to Advance Other Targets in the District

Chesapeake Gold Corp. reports that it has completed an initial phase of exploration work on its La Gitana project located in southern Oaxaca State, Mexico. La Gitana is a new epithermal gold-silver district that hosts multiple low sulphidation, bulk tonnage targets. Exploration to date has focused on advancing one target, Cerro di Oro, to the drill-ready stage.

Cerro di Oro, a kilometre long resistant ridge, represents the upper portion of large low sulphidation epithermal gold-silver system trending northwesterly, dipping steeply to the SW and emplaced in highly silicified volcanic rocks that consist mainly of porphyritic to tuffaceous rhyolites and rhyodacites. The first phase of exploration work included detailed mapping and channel sampling of the upper part of Cerro di Oro.

Mapping at 1:1000 scale defined the different rock sequences, structural controls and alteration/mineralization characteristics of Cerro di Oro. The mapping program also showed that gold-silver mineralization is hosted within a broad NW trending structural corridor containing several major vein structures and a dense network of sub-parallel, multi-stage stockwork and breccia zones.

The channel sampling consisted of a series of 2 metre wide semi-continuous cuts collected across the mineralized trend at approximately 65 metre intervals over an area of 300 by 600 metres. The sampling grid was restricted to the top of the ridge where the slope inclinations are more subdued. The most significant channel sample locations and results, mostly from the northern portion of the ridge, are summarized below starting at 0 metres from NW to SE.

(See table at: http://www.stockhouse.ca/news/news.asp?tick=CKG&newsid=2342218)

Surface sampling and mapping results confirm that the mineralized system at Cerro di Oro persists over broad widths and that it extends for more than 800 metres along strike. Gold and silver mineralization occurs throughout the vein and stockwork structures and also as disseminations within the more permeable rhyodacitic rocks that outcrop over the northern portion of the ridge. To the south, the favorable rock sequence is overlain by a 40 to 50 metre thick rhyolitic tuff unit penetrated by abundant lower temperature quartz veinlets that are linked to the underlying mineralized system. Additional outcrop exposures, displaying the same alteration and mineralization characteristics, were found 100 and

500 metres NW and 300 meters SE of the core zone, implying that the mineralized corridor, although affected by minor vertical displacements, continues and remains open to the NW and NE.

Five hundred metres further to the SW, mapping and channel sampling is underway on the La Gitana vein-stockwork system, a high grade epithermal structurally-controlled zone which runs sub-parallel to Cerro di Oro. Preliminary mapping indicates that the vein system trends northwesterly, dips steeply to the NE and averages between 20 and 50 meters in width. The mineralized zone consists of multiple vein structures, interconnecting splays and related stockworks. The La Gitana structure has been traced for more than 4 kilometres along strike and is demarcated by historical workings.

The overall quartz textures, the abundance of banded chalcedony and amethyst, and the highly silicified nature of the hostrocks at Cerro di Oro suggest that the broad zone of mineralization represents the upper level of a large epithermal system. Moreover, the proximity of Cerro di Oro and La Gitana, the similar geochemistry and the geometry of their gold zones indicate that they may potentially converge forming a bonanza zone at depth.

Cerro di Oro is a drill-ready prospect and a 5,000 metre diamond drilling program is planned to commence within a few weeks subject to the completion of the drilling contractors' current commitment and confirmation of helicopter availability. The construction of a base camp and access road totaling about 18 kilometres has been initiated to support the drilling program.

This news release has been prepared under the supervision of Andris Kikauka, P.Geo. who serves as the qualified person for this project under National Instrument 43-101.

[Roundtrip]

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=20200923

[Ed Monton]

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=20195962

[Ed Monton]

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=19968127

[Ed Monton]

There are some good links here:

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=19958442

[Ed Monton]

Oaxaca map

[Ed Monton]

Ownership

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=19914734

[Ed Monton]

Thanks. He will probably be able to afford a new car if CKG gets to $22.

[loantech]

trading fool. Here is what Randy owns I don't know about other management people. When you see this and realize with the amount of shares he owns he is motivated. If he gets CKG to $22.00 like he did FGX he would be worth about 65 million dollars which is no small sum even in Canuck dollars. <g>

I pulled this from sedar from around June or so of 2003:

Vancouver, British Columbia, June 25, 2003 – P. Randy Reifel, President and Director of
Chesapeake Gold Corp. (“Chesapeake”) announces that on June 16, 2003, he acquired directly
and indirectly, beneficial ownership of 458,648 common shares, being 2.57% of the issued and
outstanding common shares (“Shares”) of Chesapeake.
Mr. Reifel acquired the 458,648 Shares as a result of the issuance by Chesapeake of 1,450,000
Shares under the terms of certain rights issued in June 2000, by Francisco Gold Corp.
(“Francisco”) and further to the arrangement agreement dated April 30, 2002, among Francisco,
Chesapeake and Glamis Gold Ltd.
Following the acquisition, Mr. Reifel beneficially owns, directly and indirectly, 2,612,600 Shares
and 450,000 stock options. Assuming the exercise of all of the 450,000 options, Mr. Reifel’s
beneficial ownership, direct and indirect, would equal 3,062,600 Shares, representing
approximately 16.76% of the deemed issued and outstanding Shares.

[Ed Monton]

Anyone know how many of the 18 million shares outstanding are held by management????

[loantech]

<The mineralized system that is associated with a regional fault that can be traced for more than four kilometres.>
Nice size. <g>

<Kennecott) had samplings 20 -25g. "Another ½ million oz [as starter]">

Other rumors around that the adjoining properties may be bigger than El Sazaul or Marlin. Time will tell.

<Skarn can be erratic, but high grade, like 5g+ Au.>

Also hear that it is polymetallic with very high grade copper numbers and excellent silver credits.

[amarksp]

thanks for the info, much appreciated...

[Ed Monton]

Nice anecdotal post. I bought some more yesterday at $4 and $4.04. I think the party is just getting started.

[SurfaceProbe]

The 3/9/2004 NR & PDAC tidbits

In its NR,Chesapeake states it has acquired, through staking and option, the La Gitana gold-silver project in southern Oaxaca state, Mexico.

The NR includes results of channel and chip sampling by Chesapeake of the upper portion of Cerro di Oro, a large, open-pittable disseminated oxide prospect. Low grade, but "Randy likes volume", could be "easy ½ million oz", was overheard at the CKG's PDAC booth.
La Gitana, a major quartz amethyst vein and breccia zone with widths up to 40 meters. CKG has done no sampling but previous operator (Kennecott) had samplings 20 -25g. "Another ½ million oz [as starter]"
The mineralized system that is associated with a regional fault that can be traced for more than four kilometres.

La Gitana will be Chesapeake's first drilling campaign in Mexico. They got the permits even before the announcement. They have put top efforts into PR with the local community, to the extent they participate in a local festival, the community felt really honored to see them.

It was explained to me that their previous (FGX) endeavors, El Sauzal and Marlin, are both 2 million oz +, they set the goal of drilling only prospect of similar potential.

"Probably a JV for either the La Juliana or the Cucaracha Dorado project". But they have people banging on the doors for JV.

On Chesapeake negotiating the acquisition of a newly discovered, large precious-metal skarn district in southern Mexico, there is this comment: Skarn can be erratic, but high grade, like 5g+ Au.

On the lighter side, as to why they don't even have a www site yet, I was entertained with a story that Randy apparently drives an old car (80’s), and you are welcome to come to the garage under the office and tow it away. The guy is...argh...cheap...

[SurfaceProbe]

"La Juliana property located 10km west of AGI's Mulatos"

There is now a map on Grayd (GYD) site:




One can almost draw a straight line connecting
Alamos' Mulatos in the lower right,
Chesapeake's La Juliana in the middle,
and Grayd's La India in the upper left.

In the latest CKG Chesapeake's Chesapeake's Management Discussion and Analysis,
Exploration discussion, it states "Going forward Chesapeake has budgeted
to commence its first drill program in Mexico early next year",
it is likely that it will be La Juliana gets drilled first up.

Meantime we shall see what further results coming out of
Alamos AGI's Mulatos drilling program.
Will good results force Randy Reifel to play his hand
on La Juliana more aggressively, stepping out the drill program,
or increasing land holdings in the area?

[Eva]

Thank you for CKG news
Excellent

[amarksp]

Chesapeake update...

Website should be up by Jan/Feb 2004.

Goal is to have 4-5 properties by year end 2003, they currently have 2 in Mexico and 1 in Nicaragua. Acquiring properties has taken precedence over drilling because the junior market has exploded so much everyone is looking now, and CKG has to act to beat out junior competitors to the choice properties.

La Juliana property located 10km west of AGI's Mulatos.
Cucaracha Dorado property located 20km or so from INM's, in Durango State.


_________
La Juliana
Systematic program of detailed mapping and sampling as well as IP geophysical at La Juliana is complete.

The rock was too hard at Ja Juliana, CKG could not trench. Since trenching cannot be done, La Juliana is a "blind target". Randy seems very confident CKG will prove up 300K ounces (based on their surveys and samples), but it takes at least 1M ounces to make a mine and this may or may not be possible... Cannot determine until you drill...

Drilling will start around March 2004.
_______________

Cucaracha property
This entire southern area of Sierra Madre Belt (see map) is very underxplored. Only other company in the area is International North Air (INM). La Juliana will be drilled first and this will be a fallback project... Randy and his geologists really like the potential of this property.

_________
Nicaragua
Have done much surveying/testing in Nicaragua, and have now cut their land holdings from 500K hectacrest to 100K hectacres. Drilling may begin here as early as Nov 2004.

[Eva]

And this is Claude's comment:

To:jrhana who wrote (22709)
From: Claude Cormier Friday, Oct 24, 2003 12:04 AM
Respond to of 22779

Those are the reasons CKG is my favorite play. I know I will eventually sell it for $20+. This will be a replica of Francisco and more. A string long term play with very little risk.


And this is also the reasn that CKG is my biggest holding since over a year!
Eva

[amarksp]

jrhana had good post updating CKG:

jrhana Thursday, Oct 23, 2003 3:28 PM

Vignettes from a talk with Randy Reifel
Actually by my broker who loves talking with these companies

The company is in very strong financial position with around $27,000,000 in cash. The cash position is actually improving.

They are interested in exploring for gold and definitely are not miners. They definitely would look to sell whatever deposits they prove up. They have multiple properties with promise and have 11 geologist at work including I believe 4 from Francisco. They are sticking with Mexico and Central America because that is the geologic area that he knows.

There will probably be no real drilling results until March or so. They typically take about three years to bring a project to fruition so this is definitely a long term play. Typically the first year is spent in planning as they have been doing.

This is the only company he is involved in (although he is the largest shareholder of GLG) and therefore receives his full time attention.

He believes strongly in what he has been doing and in fact has been buying heavily to the tune of about 1.5 million additional shares bringing his total shares to over 4.5 million or around 25-27% of the company. He will continue to buy heavily on every pullback as he has been doing. Talk about your insider buying.

The company is extremely strong financially and is not going everywhere. The initial drilling may well prove disappointing (as with any drilling) but he will persevere and they will find what they are looking for (i.e. gold) sooner or later. The financial strength of the company guarantees staying power.

My broker is so impressed with Randy that he has been buying for himself. We have looked at over 50 companies and this is his favorite.

If you have any questions for Randy please feel free to call him at 604-731-1094. He says he loves what he does and he loves to talk about it.

[Frank Pembleton]

TF ... my understanding is that they will begin drilling this fall or as seasonality dictates in that part of the world.

Regards,
Michael..................................

[Ed Monton]

Indeed, there has been very little news to wet my appetite. The last noteworthy item is from mid January when they announced the acquisition of the golden cockroach property. That news indicated that the property would be advanced to the drill ready stage in 3-4 months.

Have they drilled??

[Frank Pembleton]

A ... I'm surprised we didn't see any news on their 2Q03 financials through CCNMatthews or Reuters for that matter ... odd way to run a company, eh?

Thanks for keeping us up-to-date.

Regards,
Michael.....................................

[amarksp]

Michael, could you update the iBox data for this link:
http://www.sedar.com/command_servlet?cmd=DisplayCompanyDocuments&issuerNo=00018190&lang=EN

also this ownership link please:
http://www.lionshares.com/details.cfm?SEARCH=symbol&CUSIP=165184102&SID=DSUD001%208906037087...

2Q03 financials now out.
http://www.sedar.com/csfsprod/data40/filings/00570275/00000001/a%3A%5C0603sdsa.pdf

Wish Chesapeake would finally get their website up and running..., underconstruction is not my cup of tea...

http://www.chesapeakegold.com/

FWIW, own a few thousand shares from the Francisco merger, bought more at C$3.43, and recently bought a bunch more at C$2.60 level. Looking to sell those I bought at C$3.43 at a bit higher price and hold onto the rest...

[mazengah_islander]

The Chesapeake inmates, with their tiny spoons, have finally dug a hole under the $2.70 wall and are trying to escape .... now let's see if they get rounded up and tossed back in solitary.

[huesos]

OK now we have a second volume bar exceeding the last largest. With the market on mid teir producers moving like it did today, something is likely to break loose with CHK soon.

[huesos]

Michael,
Jim Steele told me about IP a year and a half ago. It was and still is the most undervalued stock I can think of. There has been some interest in the last two days for some reason. Thinking about taking a position.

[Frank Pembleton]

huesos ... arg? was that stomach pain or was it just another ticker symbol? <ggg> It's the first I've heard of Amerigo Resources, pretty good action for a copper play ... and speaking of copper, another overlooked mini cap is Inca Pacific (IP-TSXV). I've been sitting on this dog for at least a couple of years ... you might want to do some DD on it-- if I remember correctly the BV is at around $0.75, and it trades at around $0.075, ya no kiddin'

[huesos]

Michael,
That's a big volume bar on the CKG chart and there appears to be a base recently. It sometimes seems as though the Canadian junior market is so thin that wild price swings and even strong trends come out of nowhere. I follow three "olympic dam deposits", one of which I took my eyes off of momentarily, and it went from .12 to .72 in a little over two months on no apparent volume. This was ARG. It has since corrected and is now putting on another big leg to the upside on low volume.
Funny thing is, there is never any mention of it here or on SI.It's a mystery as usual.

[Frank Pembleton]

H ... I'll give you a clue-- the most important part of charting is your study of the volume ... here's two questions you can ask yourself (1) is there a basing pattern present? (2) is the volume rising?

[huesos]

Well let's try looking at this way. All the indicators have shown a steady rise during a period where the share price is stalling out. Does'nt seem as though much of an advance in price is going to mounted from this point.

[Ed Monton]

I always thought it would touch on $2.00 so I'm watching from the sidelines.

[Frank Pembleton]

Huesos ... -- "the rsi and macd began a gradual rise before" -- nahh, indicators lag, they always lag ... OBV is one of the only indicators that can give some semblance of a divergence between what you see in the chart and what you get in an indicator and even then it seems to mimic everything else.

[huesos]

It's interesting to note that, on this chart, the rsi and macd began a gradual rise before the recent low was in. I would like to see some studies that would indicate whether or not the stock has been being accumulated during this period. It's possible that it is only trading between small accounts, some wanting out selling to others who never got in on the previous rally from one dollar and change.

[Ed Monton]

So, have we seen the low on this one? Odd the way that it found support at $2.50. I thought it would drop to about $2.00 but it didn't happen.

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[Frank Pembleton]

Hey H....you've got a good eye. The trading on both DY and FNX wasn't what I would call bullish...both stocks are being distributed, especially DY. It seemed that every time it would move up a point-- another 100,000 shares would show up at the ask, yikes! I posted my sell on DY earlier today #msg-1077080 -- I also sold FNX for the same reasons about a-half-hour before the close. It's nice to see them pop but if the OBV indicator doesn't confirm the move there's no sense in sticking around. Fwiw, I'm keeping them both on my primary watchlist-- I'll be playing here again once the distribution ends.

I added one golden dawg as an overnight insurance policy-- Southwestern Resources (SWG-TSX) @ $8.00 My maximum stop-loss is set to about seven and a half bucks -- but if the markets start to fly again tomorrow -- dead money is reason enuff for me to move on.

[huesos]

In the case of CNI, it's easy to admit that I'm late by six months. At least, I should have taken the Ormetal recommendation last month. With FNX and DY moving rather lightly on the recent news, it would seem that I am not left completely behind. Do you see this as a very short term move with an immediate exit?
In terms of fighting and training, you are young in comparison to me but as I still surf, the possibility of real trouble is ever present. I can also say that from experience that not all fights go to the ground , contrary to popular opininion at the moment.

[Frank Pembleton]

It's too bad you didn't ask me about which base-metal miners to spec on last week. Fwiw-- I'm holding three;

Canico (CNI-TSX)
FNX Exploration (FNX-TSX)
Dynatec Corporation (DY-TSX)

About going to the ground...I agree with everything you just said...the only thing I can add to it is that from my own experiences, all fights go to the ground. IMHO, no one wants to die but we all want to make our adversary submit. Unfortunately, to win you have to set your sites on the kill.

Anyway, @ 40 years of age I'm more interested in the soft side of the art...light opened hand sparring as opposed to the vagaries of ground fighting.

[huesos]

Michael,
In the case of copper and nickel in particular, which equities do you prefer to use as a proxy for the upward trending price of these two base metals? You summed up the dissadvantage of futures trading here in mentioning the embedded element of time. That's the reason I stopped trading futures years ago.
I too am a stand up guy, probably owing to my age as much as any thing else. Additionaly I really don't like rolling around on the mat with sweaty males as a training regimne. It is still necessary however to train defending against the tackle as it is the favorite entry techinque in my world of beach idiots. Without a lot of work in practicing redirects and frontal knees, punches etc. one can not expect to have the timing to avoid going to the ground. Much as I dislike the idea, I still have to face the likelyhood of landing on my back and therefore have to practice.

[Frank Pembleton]

It also reminds me of my all time favorite movie "Enter The Dragon." I've got both the VHS and the DVD. :)

[KastelCo]

Can't resist...
Hearing this tune reminds of great times
http://members.rogers.com/kastel/m/Kung_Fu_Fighting-Carl-Douglas.mp3
when I felt just http://members.rogers.com/kastel/m/Glad_All_Over-Dave_Clark_Five.mp3

[Frank Pembleton]

y e a h . . .I new someone out there was going to think that this conversation was getting silly -- thanks for the tunes.

[Ed Monton]

Oh-oh-oh-oh...

Everybody was Kung Fu fighting, those jerks were fast as lightning
In fact it was a little bit fright'ning, but they fought with expert timing

There was funky China men from funky Chinatown
They were trapping when up, they were trapping when down
It's an ancient Chinese art, and everybody knew their part
For my friend, ain't you a stiff, then I'm kickin' from the hip

Everybody was Kung Fu fighting, those kids were fast as lightning
In fact it was a little bit fright'ning, but they fought with expert timing

There was funky Billie Jim and little Sammy John
He said, here comes the big boss, let's get it on
We took the bow and made a stand, started swaying with the hand
A sudden motion made me stiff, now we're into a brandnew trip

Everybody was Kung Fu fighting, those kids were fast as lightning
In fact it was a little bit fright'ning, but they did it with expert timing

Oh-oh-oh-oh...

Everybody was Kung Fu fighting, those kids were fast as lightning
In fact it was a little bit fright'ning, make sure you have expert timing

Kung Fu fighting, had to be fast as lightning...